I gotta say, that looks pretty dang awesome. I am a big GOW fan, and even if it ends up being a rip, who cares, it looks to be a solid game. This just made my list with GOW3 and Darksiders.
This thread demonstrates how truly stupid people on these forums can be. Please don't take offense and report me, but just continue reading what I have to say. I can't believe no one has elaborated on this, and you call yourself gamers? The comments I'm reading make it seem like you guys have not played any one of these games. The comments are very narrow-minded and don't offer any kind of insight on the games. First off, stop grouping DMC, Ninja Gaiden, and GOW together. GOW focuses on a large scale epic adventure and the gameplay is way more slowed down than Ninja Gaiden's and DMC (they are all hack n slash, but DMC and NG put much more emphasis on pure action/"coolness" and THE COMBAT IN NG AND DMC ARE FAST PACED AND MUCH DEEPER). In addition, in NG and DMC you play through individual areas and levels/chapters (this is more apparent in DMC where you get a score. This more arcade-like than God of War, which is an action/adventure game that focuses more on story). DI and GOW are much more comparable to each other than NG and DMC. This leads to my second point. For all of you who are saying something like, "there have been other hack n' slash games before God of War, so it's not a ripoff". Seriously? That's what you have to say about this? Do you think that maybe, JUST maybe it's possibly the reason that people are calling this game a GOW ripoff is because THE GAMEPLAY IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS GOD OF WAR! Take a look at the videos of Dante's Inferno. Dante moves and animates at the SAME SPEED as Kratos does. In the game, there are quick time events during the boss fights and quick time events against enemies (that have the same timing/occurrence), just like in God of War. You have light and heavy attacks, just like in God of War. His weapon is similar to Kratos's chains as they can extend out... DANTE EVEN HAS THE SAME ****ING DOUBLE JUMP AS KRATOS, LOL (those who have played God of War should know exactly what I mean!) As far as the gameplay, Visceral really should have tried to be more unique rather than just take the exact same gameplay. How can you people be this blind...? You really can't notice all of these things. It's basically like they put a skin over GOW and did their own thing as far as the story/characters/environments. Therefore, don't come to me with stupid **** like "well, genre's like FPS borrow from each other and ripoff each other all the time". Look, as far as gameplay, DI and GOW and more similar than Killzone 2 is to Call of Duty 4. It's more similar than Prototype is to Infamous. It's more similar than Forza 2 is to Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Anyways, you can't really argue with anyting I say because I stated facts and I've actually played these games. If you're willing to disagree about the incredible amount of gameplay similarities between GOW and DI, you obviously haven't played God of War, lol. It's not really that hard to see. Some of the people who worked on God of War are actually producing Dante's Inferno, so it's understandable how the gameplay ended up being like that. With all that said, I do think Dante's Inferno is looking great and there's a chance that it ends up being better than God of War in someways. The people behind this game are talented and I have a good feeling that they will have some levels that's like nothing we've every seen in video gaming. Can't wait for both games.
Whoa, even the way he jumps and does certain moves is exactly the same as Kratos (Animations)
mgkennedy5
THANK YOU. Finally someone acknowledges with their eyes and based off experiences from playing GOW rather than talking out of their ass and saying stuff like "they are all hack n' slash games".
i have to agree, while theres nothing wrong with taking inspiration from a great franchise such as god of war, there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise and calling it your own. This game is a copy/paste job from GoW. The animations, quick times, attacks and they even tried to recreate the blades of chaos with a different skin. While theres no doubt in my mind that the combat in this game will be satisfying ( its the exact same as GoW) i cant support this lazy developing, hell its more modding than developing.
i have to agree, while theres nothing wrong with taking inspiration from a great franchise such as god of war, there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise and calling it your own. This game is a copy/paste job from GoW. The animations, quick times, attacks and they even tried to recreate the blades of chaos with a different skin. While theres no doubt in my mind that the combat in this game will be satisfying ( its the exact same as GoW) i cant support this lazy developing, hell its more modding than developing.
Thessassin
not really. As someone here pointed out, dead space was first called a resident evil reskin? game turns out pretty damm fine. It got an excellent team behind its back, plus a level designer from GoW (michael cheng i believe?), so it is not a suprise that it looks like gow. I have alot of interest in this game.
i have to agree, while theres nothing wrong with taking inspiration from a great franchise such as god of war, there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise and calling it your own. This game is a copy/paste job from GoW. The animations, quick times, attacks and they even tried to recreate the blades of chaos with a different skin. While theres no doubt in my mind that the combat in this game will be satisfying ( its the exact same as GoW) i cant support this lazy developing, hell its more modding than developing.
Thessassin
I'm saying that they are reskinning the gameplay though, not the franchise. But, yeah this pretty much. I mean seriously, if people can't notice the gameplay is pretty much exactly same based of the videos, then I can't take them seriously as gamers. I still can't believe it. They used SAME double jump as Kratos, wow...
i have to agree, while theres nothing wrong with taking inspiration from a great franchise such as god of war, there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise and calling it your own. This game is a copy/paste job from GoW. The animations, quick times, attacks and they even tried to recreate the blades of chaos with a different skin. While theres no doubt in my mind that the combat in this game will be satisfying ( its the exact same as GoW) i cant support this lazy developing, hell its more modding than developing.
OPuniverse
not really. As someone here pointed out, dead space was first called a resident evil reskin? game turns out pretty damm fine. It got an excellent team behind its back, plus a level designer from GoW (michael cheng i believe?), so it is not a suprise that it looks like gow. I have alot of interest in this game. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of you guys keep on talking as if you're sure of what you're saying. You haven't played God of War or at least seen enough gameplay videos if you don't think that the gameplay is exactly the same as Dante's Inferno's.
i have to agree, while theres nothing wrong with taking inspiration from a great franchise such as god of war, there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise and calling it your own. This game is a copy/paste job from GoW. The animations, quick times, attacks and they even tried to recreate the blades of chaos with a different skin. While theres no doubt in my mind that the combat in this game will be satisfying ( its the exact same as GoW) i cant support this lazy developing, hell its more modding than developing.
EwwFanboys
I'm saying that they are reskinning the gameplay though, not the franchise. But, yeah this pretty much. I mean seriously, if people can't notice the gameplay is pretty much exactly same based of the videos, then I can't take them seriously as gamers. I still can't believe it. They used SAME double jump as Kratos, wow... if you notice the character movement in DI is more sluggish than GoW. And double jump has been around for a while. There are other games that used the double jump.
i have to agree, while theres nothing wrong with taking inspiration from a great franchise such as god of war, there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise and calling it your own. This game is a copy/paste job from GoW. The animations, quick times, attacks and they even tried to recreate the blades of chaos with a different skin. While theres no doubt in my mind that the combat in this game will be satisfying ( its the exact same as GoW) i cant support this lazy developing, hell its more modding than developing.
EwwFanboys
not really. As someone here pointed out, dead space was first called a resident evil reskin? game turns out pretty damm fine. It got an excellent team behind its back, plus a level designer from GoW (michael cheng i believe?), so it is not a suprise that it looks like gow. I have alot of interest in this game. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of you guys keep on talking as if you're sure of what you're saying. You haven't played God of War or at least seen enough gameplay videos if you don't think that the gameplay is exactly the same as Dante's Inferno's. accuse me but i did play GoW. Dont go around assumming people havent play the game sir.
[QUOTE="EwwFanboys"][QUOTE="OPuniverse"] not really. As someone here pointed out, dead space was first called a resident evil reskin? game turns out pretty damm fine. It got an excellent team behind its back, plus a level designer from GoW (michael cheng i believe?), so it is not a suprise that it looks like gow. I have alot of interest in this game.
OPuniverse
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of you guys keep on talking as if you're sure of what you're saying. You haven't played God of War or at least seen enough gameplay videos if you don't think that the gameplay is exactly the same as Dante's Inferno's. accuse me but i did play GoW. Dont go around assumming people havent play the game sir. All I'm saying is I don't know how you can't see that the gameplay is almost exactly the same if you really have played God of War. Don't try to downplay how similar they are. Remember though, I'm not trying to say DI will be bad or good or anything like that. I'm just saying that it's CLEAR that the gameplay is almost exactly the same. And why the hell would you tell me that other games have used a double jump before? Are you serious...? Obliviously, I'm talking about how double jump looks/is animated.
[QUOTE="blazndragon0"] DMC did indeed set the bar, but Ninja Gaiden? I'd give GOW the edge over that..
foxhound_fox
Both DMC and NG require skill to beat. GoW does not.
I disagree the God of War games are fun action adventure games and have great amount of replay value. I beat God of War about 3 times and the second one about 6 times.
JangoWuzHere
Good for you. Everyone I know who has played them has only been able to play them through once. Playing them any more for us seems to ruin the experience.
Their replay value is low, when you look at what the game contains. At least with DMC, you have the ability to go back to each new level and try for better scores. The only thing that changes in GoW is difficulty and costumes. And none of the costumes are worth the time to unlock, especially in the first game.
But God of War does require skills. I doubt you played it through the hardest difficulty while only using the same move. You can't really test it, playing hundreds of games, you have gotten good at adapting in them and therefore remember combos by either reading them or figuring them out on your own. Though I would agree that on the easier difficulties God of War doesn't require skill, as you can easily smash buttons to get past the game.
[QUOTE="EwwFanboys"] This is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of you guys keep on talking as if you're sure of what you're saying. You haven't played God of War or at least seen enough gameplay videos if you don't think that the gameplay is exactly the same as Dante's Inferno's.EwwFanboys
accuse me but i did play GoW. Dont go around assumming people havent play the game sir. All I'm saying is I don't know how you can't see that the gameplay is almost exactly the same if you really have played God of War. Don't try to downplay how similar they are. Remember though, I'm trying to say DI will be bad or good or anything like that. I'm just saying that it's CLEAR that the gameplay is almost exactly the same. No the thing is, you did not understand what i was trying to say. The guy i quoted said "there is something very wrong with reskinning a franchise", so i said "not really". He called DI modding from GoW. If you play both RE4 and Dead Space, Is dead space a mod off RE4? And just to let you know i play GoW through all difficulty and unlock the customs.
The fact one is a bastardization of Greek mythology and one is an interpretation of a 14th Century Italian masterpiece of literature?
There were hack-n-slash action games before God of War...
foxhound_fox
Greek mythology Vs Italian literature is nothing more than a wrapper.
There were hack and slash games before GoW, but did they have finishing moves like God of War's? The similarity between GoW and Dante's is MUCH greater than that of say Gauntlet and Dante's.
That said, yes it's a rip off but who cares? If it's done right, it'll be a great game.
Why do people care if a game is a ripoff? Every game is a ripoff of the first game that did something. How that makes it automatically bad or a bad thing is beyond me. I don't get this logic at all.
Why do people care if a game is a ripoff? Every game is a ripoff of the first game that did something. How that makes it automatically bad or a bad thing is beyond me. I don't get this logic at all.channtheman1
Funny thing is, God of War wasn't the first of these types of games. They've been around since the very late 1990s.
The fact one is a bastardization of Greek mythology and one is an interpretation of a 14th Century Italian masterpiece of literature?
There were hack-n-slash action games before God of War...
foxhound_fox
Fox im usually behind you 100% but here I gotta throw in my 2 cents. Yes, Dante's Inferno is based on a masterpiece, the key word being BASED. I could base a porn movie on The Divine Comedy that doesn't mean it would be good :P And come on, DI is ripping of GoW in so many ways. I understand that GoW isnt the first HnS game, but it literally looks like they Copy/Pasted the combat system from GoW. At the very least you must admit there are some rather large similarities.
The fact one is a bastardization of Greek mythology and one is an interpretation of a 14th Century Italian masterpiece of literature?
There were hack-n-slash action games before God of War...
II_Seraphim_II
Fox im usually behind you 100% but here I gotta throw in my 2 cents. Yes, Dante's Inferno is based on a masterpiece, the key word being BASED. I could base a porn movie on The Divine Comedy that doesn't mean it would be good :P And come on, DI is ripping of GoW in so many ways. I understand that GoW isnt the first HnS game, but it literally looks like they Copy/Pasted the combat system from GoW. At the very least you must admit there are some rather large similarities. Combat systems tend to grow with a genre. It isn't entirely indicative of God of War so much as it is the overall evolution of the genre as a whole. We haven't even seen that much of the overall gameplay mechanics, and already people are saying it is ripping off God of War. I mean, I don't really see all that much in the game that isn't in other HnS games that came before God of War. QTEs and the like were established well before God of War. I'd wait until we see more indepth versions of the combat before we speak about it.
[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]God of War set the precedent though. God of War is the best hack-n-slash game ever (well, 2nd best, next to Part II). Only problem is that they are too easy (even on God Mode), so hopefully III will be harder.
foxhound_fox
No it isn't. Devil May Cry set the bar, and further set it out of GoW's reach with DMC3. Plus, Ninja Gaiden stomps all over GoW.
The GoW games are good, but they are nothing worth writing home about. They are enjoyable for a single playthrough to get the story and taste of action... and that's about it. the only reason ninja gaiden is even compared with great games is because of its amazingly hard difficulty. NG stomps over gow? Ninja gaiden hasnt had a AAA game since when again?:| (not counting sigma since its just NG on ps3)
Lol... and yet still people still argue that it's not a ripoff because it's a different story than GOW. Read through the thread people and understand that it's the gameplay portion that's basically a ripoff, not the story/characters of DI.
[QUOTE="channtheman1"]Why do people care if a game is a ripoff? Every game is a ripoff of the first game that did something. How that makes it automatically bad or a bad thing is beyond me. I don't get this logic at all.Vandalvideo
Funny thing is, God of War wasn't the first of these types of games. They've been around since the very late 1990s. yes, but cows only think GoW was the first to deliver everything. Some of the formulas have been around for a while.
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