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#51 osan0
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imho the series is done unless bungie go back to formula and really give the game an overhaul. they essentially perfected halo with halo 1 (which was brilliant) and they havent built on it since. after halo3, i know i wont be getting another halo game unless its quite different from halo1/2/3.
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#52 Rigga911
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halo 2 was enough to know that the series was generic
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#53 KingTuttle
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3 games? Milking? No.

You want milk? George Lucas has squeezed every ounce possible out of Star Wars. Thats all he does.

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halo 2 was enough to know that the series was genericRigga911
People saying generic in their posts tend to be generic replies.
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#55 DrinkDuff
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I don't care how many there are as long as they revamp the gameplay every once in a while. If Bungie or someone else does make a Halo 4 I want it to restart the franchise. We really don't need another Halo CE with a slightly tweaked formula.
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#56 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="L_Samax"]What is Halo Zero?

L_Samax

It a Free Halo side-scrolling shooter game. I also don't see the reason to count Map pack and Ports. Right now there is just Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: ODST, Halo wars. Halo: Chronicles had been missing in action.

That isn't that bad.

exactly mario, sonic, madden, dynaty warriors, final fantasy, metal gear solid these games have been milked more then anything else

It's not milking when they make a quality title, and I'm looking at MGS here.
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#57 Solid_Max13
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3 games? Milking? No.

You want milk? George Lucas has squeezed every ounce possible out of Star Wars. Thats all he does.

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#58 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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COnsidering lemmings drop to their knees and praise the second coming of Jesus everytime so much as a Halo tattoo or Cardboard cutout of Master Chief is shown...there will never be enough.
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#60 KingTuttle
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COnsidering lemmings drop to their knees and praise the second coming of Jesus everytime so much as a Halo tattoo or Cardboard cutout of Master Chief is shown...there will never be enough.ZIMdoom
Every system has a trolling band of fanboys over an IP. Look at the Mario/Zelda lovers and GT or Metal Gear nuts.
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#61 Deiuos
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Halo is massively popular and there is def no shortage of games in the series for fans to enjoy. My concern is that like with many other games there is a such thing as too much.

Who thinks Halo will go overboard with additions?
Who thinks Halo will needs as many additions as they can make?

There is already: Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 2 Map pack, Halo Triple Pack, Halo 3, Halo Zero, and Halo: Custom Edition. They are already planning on Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles, and Halo 3: Recon.

elfimis

You're going to use fangames and map packs to increase your list?

Halo is a fantastic world with a large string of stories that can be told. Like Star Wars, it can be told in different ways and perspectives. I say they can make as many Halo games as they want as long as they're fresh, and quality games. Halo is still young, as old as it is, and the millions of fans don't just want it to fade away. There's more to be told, and there's so many interesting perspectives (Halo: ODST, Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles) that bring new interest to the franchise.

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#62 MadSomeone
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="TheAnnihilation"]

As you may have comprehended, Halo is prosperous to a high level. Apart from Halo 3 and Grand Theft Auto IV, no game has hammered Halo 2's day-one sales record, $125 million. For what reason would they stop?

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One day sales mean nothing. Take sales over an item's entire life how about.

Halo 2 sold about 7-8 million (guessing) in its lifetime on the Xbox with only 20 million Xbox's sold... Thats pretty amazing seeing how the PS2 struggled to sell that much of one title and the PS2 was owned by nearly 80 million customers

But the highest selling game last generation was Pokémon Ruby and Saphire!

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[QUOTE="L_Samax"][QUOTE="elfimis"]

Halo is massively popular and there is def no shortage of games in the series for fans to enjoy. My concern is that like with many other games there is a such thing as too much.

Who thinks Halo will go overboard with additions?
Who thinks Halo will needs as many additions as they can make?

There is already: Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 2 Map pack, Halo Triple Pack, Halo 3, Halo Zero, and Halo: Custom Edition. They are already planning on Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles, and Halo 3: Recon.Chaos_HL21

What is Halo Zero?

It a Free Halo side-scrolling shooter game. I also don't see the reason to count Map pack and Ports. Right now there is just Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: ODST, Halo wars. Halo: Chronicles had been missing in action.

That isn't that bad.

no it isn't as bad as the TC is making it. u really can't make map packs as a halo. it is just content, if u can then the PC has a lot of milkage because of all of the great mods out there.

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#64 opex07
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At least the Final Fantasy games are different.Ragnarok1051
Halo is going from a FPS to a RTS to a more stealth driven game.
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#65 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] At least the Final Fantasy games are different.L_Samax
I'd argue the biggest difference between most FF games is how feminine the main character looks - the stories certainly don't change much. What's really odd is that FFXIII's main character doesn't top the femininity chart...

exactly ever since 7 they made all the main characters look like que#rs

UHmmm...since 7? You ever see the concept/character sketches for the older games? NOt exactly the crew from Gears in those games either. They just didn't have the console power in the NES and SNES days to properly render their vision.

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#66 krunkfu2
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they should have stopped with 2

I wished they'd just delayed the game until late 2005/early 2006 and did it right

If the game was anywhere near the E3 2004 trailer I would've been happy

but it fell so short of that

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]COnsidering lemmings drop to their knees and praise the second coming of Jesus everytime so much as a Halo tattoo or Cardboard cutout of Master Chief is shown...there will never be enough.KingTuttle
Every system has a trolling band of fanboys over an IP. Look at the Mario/Zelda lovers and GT or Metal Gear nuts.

Name one single time when Sony or Nintendo showed up at a game conference and simlpy said "MGS/Mario is coming out this year" - no visuals or gameplay or anything - and the fanboys claim the gen is over, Nintendo/Sony have won the show and game of the year and will rule that year?

It's never happened. But it happens every time MS comes out, walks on stage, says "Halo" and then drops the mic on the floor and leaves. Lemmings declare E3 or whatever over, and MS won, and then gen is over for the competition.

I can understand hyping a game once we've SEEN it, but I've never in my life seen such an extreme fanboy reaction based on just announcing a release date, or showing a fake Halo Tattoo on an MS execs arm.

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#68 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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1, after the first one bungie has failed to make even half as good as an attempt as that one had. 2 was rushed and 3 was more complete but still not there.
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#69 -Master_St3ve-
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Halo is massively popular and there is def no shortage of games in the series for fans to enjoy. My concern is that like with many other games there is a such thing as too much.

Who thinks Halo will go overboard with additions?
Who thinks Halo will needs as many additions as they can make?

There is already: Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 2 Map pack, Halo Triple Pack, Halo 3, Halo Zero, and Halo: Custom Edition. They are already planning on Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles, and Halo 3: Recon.

elfimis
Why are you including map packs, the triple pack, The PC version as a different game, and a game that wasn't made by Bungie or M$? There is only 3 Halo games out right now, I don't see the problem. There are 12 Final Fantasy's with out counting the spin offs and the remakes if were going to count those.
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[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]COnsidering lemmings drop to their knees and praise the second coming of Jesus everytime so much as a Halo tattoo or Cardboard cutout of Master Chief is shown...there will never be enough.ZIMdoom

Every system has a trolling band of fanboys over an IP. Look at the Mario/Zelda lovers and GT or Metal Gear nuts.

Name one single time when Sony or Nintendo showed up at a game conference and simlpy said "MGS/Mario is coming out this year" - no visuals or gameplay or anything - and the fanboys claim the gen is over, Nintendo/Sony have won the show and game of the year and will rule that year?

It's never happened. But it happens every time MS comes out, walks on stage, says "Halo" and then drops the mic on the floor and leaves. Lemmings declare E3 or whatever over, and MS won, and then gen is over for the competition.

I can understand hyping a game once we've SEEN it, but I've never in my life seen such an extreme fanboy reaction based on just announcing a release date, or showing a fake Halo Tattoo on an MS execs arm.

Wow. You really have some strong feelings about Halo... When Twilight Princess was announced in magazines and websites WITHOUT any gameplay footage/pics people were freaking out. I'm sure you remember that. But I agree that Halo is wildly popular and people act a bit retarded about the whole thing...but I think Sony fanboys tend to get way bent out of shape about it. It's almost like hating the guy that drives the ferrari and has the hot girlfriend. I don't know...seems more like jealousy.
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#71 ninjaxmas
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given what bungie has done to the series, i'd say 3 is enough. halo ce is probally my favorite game honostly (and yes, i'm probally older than you so piss off...). halo 2 imo had the best MP of the bunch but was a major letdown SP wise. halo3 was the worst in the series. still pissed that it ended like it did actually. the chief deserved better :( I was kinda hoping for an awesome, herioc death, not left to float adrift into the buttcrack of space...lame
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#72 ninjaxmas
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[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Every system has a trolling band of fanboys over an IP. Look at the Mario/Zelda lovers and GT or Metal Gear nuts.KingTuttle

Name one single time when Sony or Nintendo showed up at a game conference and simlpy said "MGS/Mario is coming out this year" - no visuals or gameplay or anything - and the fanboys claim the gen is over, Nintendo/Sony have won the show and game of the year and will rule that year?

It's never happened. But it happens every time MS comes out, walks on stage, says "Halo" and then drops the mic on the floor and leaves. Lemmings declare E3 or whatever over, and MS won, and then gen is over for the competition.

I can understand hyping a game once we've SEEN it, but I've never in my life seen such an extreme fanboy reaction based on just announcing a release date, or showing a fake Halo Tattoo on an MS execs arm.

Wow. You really have some strong feelings about Halo... When Twilight Princess was announced in magazines and websites WITHOUT any gameplay footage/pics people were freaking out. I'm sure you remember that. But I agree that Halo is wildly popular and people act a bit retarded about the whole thing...but I think Sony fanboys tend to get way bent out of shape about it. It's almost like hating the guy that drives the ferrari and has the hot girlfriend. I don't know...seems more like jealousy.

lol halo tattoo. pretty sure I started that thing. had mine printed in the april 2004 issue of oxm. never saw one besides mine before that...
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#73 SecretPolice
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I'm going to go with: The day one scores 6.5 or lower.

EDIT ( shhh, not really ) Opps, I forgot, KZ2 in coming so umm forget that theory. :twisted: Don't jump cows, I think KZ2 will score well. :)

Seriously, Halo is far, far from milked as the series has seen nothing but AAA's so, Just sayin. :P

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#74 11Marcel
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1. At this point halo is pretty much the least milked franchise out there. It takes bungie 3 years to make a new iteration every time, and even though there's also map packs, these usually go free after half a year or so.

2. No one's complaining about too many FF's or too many COD's too much, so halo is save for some time.

3. As long as bungie or another studios put some serious time into every new halo game, and make it a quality game, there's really no "too much" of it.

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#76 carljohnson3456
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I dont really want an expansion, and I dont care about an RTS. I'd rather just have Halo 4.
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#77 noswear
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One. The series just went downhill from there.
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#78 DontBeHatin1983
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halo CE was the best in the series and i think it should have ended there H2 sucked a$$ and H3 played it online at friends house was fun but CoD4 is way better
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#79 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Your counting map packs :lol:

Yeah you lost all credibility with that one.

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#80 st1ka
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[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]How many Final Fantasy's are enough? How many Metal Gears are enough? How many Guitar Heros are enough? It's all profit uinfournatly, if the game has profit and sells they'll milk it till the day it dies.Ragnarok1051
At least the Final Fantasy games are different.

what about : FFVII, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, and Last Order?
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[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]How many Final Fantasy's are enough? How many Metal Gears are enough? How many Guitar Heros are enough? It's all profit uinfournatly, if the game has profit and sells they'll milk it till the day it dies.elfimis

I couldnt agree with you more. Unfortunately this is where good series go downhill and start to fail because after spin 38742387 it seems to lose its luster and appeal.

It all depends on the person's taste! I for one don't want to play ODST. Why? Simply 'cause it looks like Halo 3, that's not a bad thing, but, I already had enough of Halo 3. Halo Wars on the other hand brings a new genre to the table, wether it's succesful or not, it's a new genre, it's not the same old generic crap. I'm going for Halo Wars instead of ODST. Though don't expect Halo Kart or Paper Halo or anything.
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#82 -DrRobotnik-
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There are only 3 Halo games (others you listed were just ports and map packs). Unlike other people, i dont see a problem with a company continuing to support an ip. Well, until it gets to a point like Tony Hawks or Need For Speed where crap just keeps getting released. But series' like Halo, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy etc etc. can continue as long as they want, as long as they keep the quality up there.
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#83 DontBeHatin1983
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]How many Final Fantasy's are enough? How many Metal Gears are enough? How many Guitar Heros are enough? It's all profit uinfournatly, if the game has profit and sells they'll milk it till the day it dies.st1ka
At least the Final Fantasy games are different.

what about : FFVII, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, and Last Order?

have u ever played FF game
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#84 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] At least the Final Fantasy games are different.DontBeHatin1983
what about : FFVII, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, and Last Order?

have u ever played FF game

i own Final fantasy games from 7 trough X-2 (including origins, Anthology and 6 for the PS1)
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#85 Ninja-Hippo
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They release one Halo game every three years. They're hardly bleeding it dry. Also, i dont think it's fair to include a game like Halo Zero in your list of Halo games, seeing as it's a flash game made by a couple of fans. Nor is it fair to include stuff like "halo triple pack" which isn't a game at all, but just the three halo games bundled together. There are three Halo games, and there's an RTS and an expansion to Halo 3 on the way. Easy.
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#86 MigElite
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Halo is massively popular and there is def no shortage of games in the series for fans to enjoy. My concern is that like with many other games there is a such thing as too much.

Who thinks Halo will go overboard with additions?
Who thinks Halo will needs as many additions as they can make?

There is already: Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 2 Map pack, Halo Triple Pack, Halo 3, Halo Zero, and Halo: Custom Edition. They are already planning on Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles, and Halo 3: Recon.

elfimis

Come on...those aren't games, and what's Halo chronicles? It's not even announced.

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Considering I really like the games released (the real 3 titles not whatever is on that crap list), I actually wouldn't mind more than just ODST and Wars coming out. Bring me more Halo I say!
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#88 thepoop7
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Halo is massively popular and there is def no shortage of games in the series for fans to enjoy. My concern is that like with many other games there is a such thing as too much.

Who thinks Halo will go overboard with additions?
Who thinks Halo will needs as many additions as they can make?

There is already: Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 2 Map pack, Halo Triple Pack, Halo 3, Halo Zero, and Halo: Custom Edition. They are already planning on Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles, and Halo 3: Recon.

elfimis
You don't count Map Packs to the equation. They have only made 5 Halo games , 3 that are out now , 1 that is being made as an expansion( such as what Rockstar is doing with GTA) , and the other is another game studio all together from bungie. So, compared to other franchises, Halo is still somewhat young.
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#89 papi_lekker
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its over 9000!!!! sorry had to say it
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#90 Leejjohno
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Halo 1 was a very enjoyable game for me on the PC and I did play it considerably since it was basically the start of online gaming for me (I just wasn't experienced enough to have a crack at Quake III but I could appreciate the reason behind it's popularity, but I prefered offline play tbh)

Then there was Halo 2... It was the reason I bought the first one, because I was considering purchasing it but it was only for the xbox, which in my eyes was a trashy system. So I didn't buy it, but I did get it free with a PC some time ago and all I can say is boy... it is just awful compared to the first.

Next is Halo 3, it's a solid game that just doesn't appeal to my taste, but it seems to go for everything that I thought Halo didn't stand for; closed in environments even when outdoors, an excessive amount of weapons and a bunch of equipment pickups that just throw the ballance of combat into clumsiness. No battles that really tested any complicated strategies besides drive in circles until the numb AI managed to crack a weak spot (letting them drive is simply out of the question). I didn't ever feel like cinematography had been used effectively and to top it off, most of the levels in the game were beyond questionable when it comes to design choices.

The Halo expansion pack had better drastically change the gameplay or I wont enjoy it. You see I feel that the previous games relied to much on strategy over skill (besides the fact that the second two were some how even more linear). I never liked the idea of a quiet assault rifle that couldn't be aimed, or a sniper rifle with tracer rounds, and enemies that use their armour as an excuse to act predictably numb.

Halo Wars may be good, but I will remain apprehensive.

Summary: 1 Halo/halo 1 is enough

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#91 naruto7777
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look at Final Fantasy?, theres only 3 halo games out so far?
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#92 skrat_01
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How many Final Fantasy's are enough? How many Metal Gears are enough? How many Guitar Heros are enough? It's all profit uinfournatly, if the game has profit and sells they'll milk it till the day it dies.Solid_Max13
Spot on. Glad to see it was posted so early on.
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I actually like how they are doing it differently with ODST. Halo 2 and Halo 3 were so horrible... nothing could beat the first and the only reason both of those were a success was because of the first. I swear, if Halo 4 has dumb and ignorant success like 2 and 3, I'm going to shoot myself because the developers are just milking the money rather than caring about the gameplay. I know tons of people that own Xbox 360s who all admit Halo 3 was just flat out garbage and are still in wonderment at the reviews and sales Halo 3 generated.

And Halo Wars will be alright, but Star Craft 2 is on the horizon, and we know RTS's on consoles just never work.T

They should just seriously end it already... do something else instead...

At least Mario/Zelda and the Metal Gear series actually release good, maybe even great games from time to time.

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#94 Sigmaan
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I actually like how they are doing it differently with ODST. Halo 2 and Halo 3 were so horrible... nothing could beat the first and the only reason both of those were a success was because of the first. I swear, if Halo 4 has dumb and ignorant success like 2 and 3, I'm going to shoot myself because the developers are just milking the money rather than caring about the gameplay. I know tons of people that own Xbox 360s who all admit Halo 3 was just flat out garbage and are still in wonderment at the reviews and sales Halo 3 generated.

And Halo Wars will be alright, but Star Craft 2 is on the horizon, and we know RTS's on consoles just never work.T

They should just seriously end it already... do something else instead...

At least Mario/Zelda and the Metal Gear series actually release good, maybe even great games from time to time.

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#95 Sigmaan
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Really

This thread was just a cheap cow attempt to bash Halo and it failed

Halo has 3 freaking games and 1 full game and 1 expansion on the way

How is that milking

You want milking go look at mario, madden, final fantasy, metal gear solid and dynasty warriors

those franchises were milked to the core

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#96 Deiuos
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[QUOTE="elfimis"]

Halo is massively popular and there is def no shortage of games in the series for fans to enjoy. My concern is that like with many other games there is a such thing as too much.

Who thinks Halo will go overboard with additions?
Who thinks Halo will needs as many additions as they can make?

There is already: Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 2 Map pack, Halo Triple Pack, Halo 3, Halo Zero, and Halo: Custom Edition. They are already planning on Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles, and Halo 3: Recon.

MigElite

Come on...those aren't games, and what's Halo chronicles? It's not even announced.

It has been announced. Google/wiki it. It's in development by Peter Jackson.
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How many Metal Gear games have we seen in the past couple generations? Even excluding the Solid series and the remakes and re-releases.
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I actually like how they are doing it differently with ODST. Halo 2 and Halo 3 were so horrible... nothing could beat the first and the only reason both of those were a success was because of the first. I swear, if Halo 4 has dumb and ignorant success like 2 and 3, I'm going to shoot myself because the developers are just milking the money rather than caring about the gameplay. I know tons of people that own Xbox 360s who all admit Halo 3 was just flat out garbage and are still in wonderment at the reviews and sales Halo 3 generated.

And Halo Wars will be alright, but Star Craft 2 is on the horizon, and we know RTS's on consoles just never work.T

They should just seriously end it already... do something else instead...

At least Mario/Zelda and the Metal Gear series actually release good, maybe even great games from time to time.

quicksilverXP24
lol what?, Halo 3 may not be all that improved, but it is definately not garbage, and it was leaps and bound better than Halo 22
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#99 Sigmaan
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How many Metal Gear games have we seen in the past couple generations? Even excluding the Solid series and the remakes and re-releases.Johnny-n-Roger
Well the 4 primary games, the psp games, the gameboy games and mobile games not to mention acid and stuff metal gear has been milked way more then halo has
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#100 Sigmaan
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I said before and ill say it again

This was just a cheap cow attempt to bash the 360

Halo isnt being milked not even close

You wanna see a milked franchise look no further then final fantasy, metal gear solid, dynasty warriors, madden sonic mario