How much should Brawl's score suffer because it doesn't use the waggle?

With a game as frantic as Smash Bros the stick waggle would be more of a nuisance than anything else. Bonus points for not pushing the feature on a game when it would work against the gameplay mechanics.Private_Vegas

1. it does use a bit of motion in the Remote/nunchuck setup

2. it uses 4 different controlers, gamecube is just one of them

3. does every PS3 game need teh cell, does every 360 game need to be an FPS thanks to the fps first controler...why should every wii game need motion scencing, hopefuly brawl will set the standered so motion is either not used or integrated right.

darkspineslayer

So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?-D3MO-

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

EDIT: sofar, 1 game apparently uses all the space (MGS4)

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]With a game as frantic as Smash Bros the stick waggle would be more of a nuisance than anything else. Bonus points for not pushing the feature on a game when it would work against the gameplay mechanics.-D3MO-

What's the point of Sixaxis then?

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?darkspineslayer

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]With a game as frantic as Smash Bros the stick waggle would be more of a nuisance than anything else. Bonus points for not pushing the feature on a game when it would work against the gameplay mechanics.jangojay

What's the point of Sixaxis then?

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?-D3MO-

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

try re-reading the post before you reply again... -_-

there's no reason for it to suffer

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]With a game as frantic as Smash Bros the stick waggle would be more of a nuisance than anything else. Bonus points for not pushing the feature on a game when it would work against the gameplay mechanics.-D3MO-

Other games use it to great success and others use it totally inappropriately simply because they could. Doing something just because you can is a crappy reason to do anything.

A lesson for developers and a lesson for life.

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?darkspineslayer

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

try re-reading the post before you reply again... -_-

I don't want Nintendo to force waggle on us. It doesn't work for every game. Look at Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. No points should be deducted. They're doing the right thing.DeathScape666

People on this forum are acting as though waggle is the only use of the controller though. Fire Emblem should have used a pointer like a proper strategy game.

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?-D3MO-

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

try re-reading the post before you reply again... -_-

So it should also be up to a dev to not use motion sensing?
It wouldn't hurt gameplay in Brawl case.

Just admit you've been uninformed and have proven again how much of a fanboy you really are.
There is motion sensing in Brawl, aside from various other control schemes.
This will obviously improve gameplay so that every person can enjoy it, wether it be Wiimote users or Cube controller users.

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

1. it does use a bit of motion in the Remote/nunchuck setup

2. it uses 4 different controlers, gamecube is just one of them

3. does every PS3 game need teh cell, does every 360 game need to be an FPS thanks to the fps first controler...why should every wii game need motion scencing, hopefuly brawl will set the standered so motion is either not used or integrated right.

-D3MO-

COD4 and halo 3 should have points deducted because they don't fully use their consoles HD capabilities

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?Sgt_Crow

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

try re-reading the post before you reply again... -_-

So it should also be up to a dev to not use motion sensing?
It wouldn't hurt gameplay in Brawl case.

Just admit you've been uninformed and have proven again how much of a fanboy you really are.
There is motion sensing in Brawl, aside from various other control schemes.
This will obviously improve gameplay so that every person can enjoy it, wether it be Wiimote users or Cube controller users.

if not then ps3 or xbox 360 games should not be penalized for bad online or graphicsziggy87

I wouldn't imagine that they'd take much off. And if that's a Con for Brawl, I will strongly disagree. I'm glad that the developers didn't throw in waggle just for the sake of using it. If they would have forced us to use only the Wiimote for this game and to wave it to perform certain actions (such as grabbing or using items), I'd be unhappy. Some control schemes require waving the remote (or at least it's an option; my memory about the controls is a bit bad), but you don't necessarily have to use that control scheme.TheEndBoss

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]i heard that brawl will use the regular gc controller...instead of waggle. Since Wii is riding on the Waggle as its main thing it brings to the table this gen...how much should Brawl's score suffer? I mean the game won't be using the innovation, nor will it be on par graphically with other titles... so...I'm thinking like 1.0 should be deducted (if in fact the brawl doesn't use waggle)--ProtoMan--

Ha. ha. ha.

Oh well. I should have expected this. All the haters who have nothing to do but complain will do it no matter what--it would be either "Why is waggle in every game?" or "What, why doesn't this game use waggle?" And of course, you're quite uninformed, because the Wiimote does support motion to execute smash attacks. Four types of control--but clearly you've just heard about one, decided it was the only way, and started throwing up facetious fanboy complaints.

It's obvious that you really don't care, because if Brawl was a waggle-fest, I'm sure you'd be whining about how it is casual trash.

The wii mote works for some genres....but fighters and the wiimote just don't mix

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?-D3MO-

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

try re-reading the post before you reply again... -_-

So it should also be up to a dev to not use motion sensing?
It wouldn't hurt gameplay in Brawl case.

Just admit you've been uninformed and have proven again how much of a fanboy you really are.
There is motion sensing in Brawl, aside from various other control schemes.
This will obviously improve gameplay so that every person can enjoy it, wether it be Wiimote users or Cube controller users.

exactly its the future. Motion technology is far from finished, its far from complete. you cant expect all genres to all be completely perfect through the use of motion controls. The fighting genre is simply a genre that motion control cannot fully complement, yet.

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"] So what's the point of waggle then if games aren't going to use it?-D3MO-

so whats the point of blu-ray if games aren't going to use all the space?

try re-reading the post before you reply again... -_-

So it should also be up to a dev to not use motion sensing?
It wouldn't hurt gameplay in Brawl case.

Just admit you've been uninformed and have proven again how much of a fanboy you really are.
There is motion sensing in Brawl, aside from various other control schemes.
This will obviously improve gameplay so that every person can enjoy it, wether it be Wiimote users or Cube controller users.

sony has been telling you cows that HD is the future, yet resistance 2 dosen't even support 1080p?

i heard that brawl will use the regular gc controller...instead of waggle. Since Wii is riding on the Waggle as its main thing it brings to the table this gen...how much should Brawl's score suffer? I mean the game won't be using the innovation, nor will it be on par graphically with other titles... so...I'm thinking like 1.0 should be deducted (if in fact the brawl doesn't use waggle)-D3MO-

uhh. you can use 4 controller setups. Wiimote+Nuncuck, Wiimote, GC controller, Classic controller.

www.smashbros.com check out the controll stuff.

No need for motion controls in a fighting game like brawl.

I think it should get perks for not forcing the gimmick. So +2. :)-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]I think it should get perks for not forcing the gimmick. So +2. :)killab2oo5

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

omarguy01

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

TC failsrazu_gamer2

thread winner

[QUOTE="omarguy01"]

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

jet052006

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

[QUOTE="HeliumFear"]Why should it suffer at all? Motion controlls would be horrible for this style of game,sort of like how RTSs are horrible with dual analog. A game should be judged by how well the controll scheme works with the game,not by how well it conforms to the standard controll schemes of the platform.-D3MO-

So if a game on the PS3 doesnt use 50 gb of space it should be deducted points....you fail....Aaaaaagain

[QUOTE="omarguy01"]

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

jet052006

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

who said the Wii HAS to focus on these things, dont u think it makes sense that the devs arent unessisarily putting motion sensing into game just cause its there...? are you THAT much of a fanboy? i prolly would have preferred if SMG didnt use it at all

[QUOTE="jet052006"][QUOTE="omarguy01"]

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

ApocalypseXIVV

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

who said the Wii HAS to focus on these things, dont u think it makes sense that the devs arent unessisarily putting motion sensing into game just cause its there...? are you THAT much of a fanboy? i prolly would have preferred if SMG didnt use it at all

Are you trying to say that Nintendo hasnt focused there comsole on motion sensing, and the new $tyle of advertising people playing the game and moving around using the motion sensing doesnt suggest this?

EDIT wont let me use "S" for some reason

[QUOTE="jet052006"][QUOTE="omarguy01"]

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

ApocalypseXIVV

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

who said the Wii HAS to focus on these things, dont u think it makes sense that the devs arent unessisarily putting motion sensing into game just cause its there...? are you THAT much of a fanboy? i prolly would have preferred if SMG didnt use it at all

Nintendo's main focus w/ the Wii is the waggle..when they're biggest franchise doesn't use the waggle..what does that tell you about the hypocricy of Nintendo?-D3MO-

Brawl uses waggle if you want to use it... it's not forcing you to. Variety is better so that's a major plus. Your logic is seriously flawed.

[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="jet052006"][QUOTE="omarguy01"]

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

-D3MO-

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

who said the Wii HAS to focus on these things, dont u think it makes sense that the devs arent unessisarily putting motion sensing into game just cause its there...? are you THAT much of a fanboy? i prolly would have preferred if SMG didnt use it at all

read:

exactly its the future. Motion technology is far from finished, its far from complete. you cant expect all genres to all be completely perfect through the use of motion controls. The fighting genre is simply a genre that motion control cannot fully complement, yet.

not every wii games needs to use it... why would it? because it's its main feature? nonsense.. it s A feature that they can use.

And it will et extra points for optional controls.

it's not a good thing when people like you use sigs like you... it gets confusing this way... fanboys acusing other fanboys...

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="jet052006"][QUOTE="omarguy01"]

how much should a score suffer for not using rumble?
how much should a score suffer for not using all the face buttons (coughfable2cough)
how much should a score suffer for not using sixaxis tilt?
how much should a score suffer for not having online functionality?

samusarmada

none of the other systems are focusing on these things, while motion sensing is the main focus for the Wii, and is probably the only thing on the Wii that separates itself from previous gens.

who said the Wii HAS to focus on these things, dont u think it makes sense that the devs arent unessisarily putting motion sensing into game just cause its there...? are you THAT much of a fanboy? i prolly would have preferred if SMG didnt use it at all

read:

exactly its the future. Motion technology is far from finished, its far from complete. you cant expect all genres to all be completely perfect through the use of motion controls. The fighting genre is simply a genre that motion control cannot fully complement, yet.

ok...

so by your example sony should be docked marks on every game for not including the 4th dimension like it promised in its big brick of garbage, oh and sure sonys games do have motion sensing see lair... epic fail... Just because you cant stand the fact that bu bu but... i cant play this game too. dont trash it... maybe ur granny can buy you one for your birthday.. well maybe in 5 years at that time there might actually be some in stock lmao.

/threaddarkIink

or is it?

When using the remote and nunchuck control, wave the remote in a direction to do a quick smash. /threaddarkIink

Bingo!