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#51 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There are plenty of great looking games on consoles, call me crazy but I find people on here tend to overexaggerate PC graphics BIG time.

ShadowMoses900

That's probably because you have a crappy PC

No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

Skyrim and Witcher 2 definitely looke better on PC. And skyrim looks leaps and bounds better with mods.

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#52 PublicNuisance
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Halo 4 looks fantastic man and you're here talking about 2d backgrounds? Lol and then you wonder why some pc enthusiasts are labeled elitist pricks.greensand24

It's our cross to bear but that is the burden for those who come from greatness.

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#53 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

MK-Professor

Get real...

i am real. how much to you think a GPU equivalent to a 8800GTX(from 2006 than completely destroyed console) in performance cost? no more than $50 that is for sure.

You also need a good CPU. Your GPU could be rendered useless if you have an incompetant CPU. At the very least a Dual Core.

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#54 PublicNuisance
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You also need a good CPU. Your GPU could be rendered useless if you have an incompetant CPU. At the very least a Dual Core.

el3m2tigre

Dual cores retail for $55 where I work. Not hard to get. Prebuilt computers have had them as standard for the last 4-5 years excluding netbooks. Custom builders have had dual core for even longer, I first had a dual core in 2006.

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#55 lowe0
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So you took a screen shot and altered it to make it look worse? In what sense is this even remotely honest?
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#56 PublicNuisance
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So you took a screen shot and altered it to make it look worse? In what sense is this even remotely honest?lowe0

I'd say it's about as honest as the usual marketing videos and screenshots pubishers feed us these days.

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#57 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]So you took a screen shot and altered it to make it look worse? In what sense is this even remotely honest?PublicNuisance

I'd say it's about as honest as the usual marketing videos and screenshots pubishers feed us these days.

I wasn't aware that "they did it first!" was now a valid excuse.
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#58 Michael0134567
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Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak
Sure does. TC should feel bad about this awful thread.
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#59 PC_Otter
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

MK-Professor

Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

Good luck seeing console like optimization. I wouldn't recommend anything less than a GDDR5 equipped Radeon 5670/6570 or Geforce GT440. Go up to $100 (Radeon 7750) and you'll actually see the worthwhile graphical reasons to be involved with PC gaming.
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#60 TheDidact
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Do people try to have fun playing games anymore? It seems most people here just go around criticizing every little thing like a 2D mountain background. :lol:
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#61 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.el3m2tigre

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

Get real...

Newegg has a 5450 for sale for $15. Better than a console.
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#62 PublicNuisance
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

princeofshapeir

Get real...

Newegg has a 5450 for sale for $15. Better than a console.

Actually the 360 GPU is roughly on par with the X1900 series of cards from what I have read and the 5450 is not on par with that.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=415&card2=625

Not to mention that the 5450 will only play most PC games on low settings. Have some pride man, PC games aren't meant to play on low or medium, at least not in my mind.

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#63 PublicNuisance
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I wasn't aware that "they did it first!" was now a valid excuse.lowe0

I never said it was a valid excuse, but it was a valid point.

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#64 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.lundy86_4

I know. It's hilarious that the TC actually chose such a good looking game.

Your standards are really low then.. the game looks mediocre.
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#65 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There are plenty of great looking games on consoles, call me crazy but I find people on here tend to overexaggerate PC graphics BIG time.

ShadowMoses900

That's probably because you have a crappy PC

No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

Yeah, but then you say PS3 has better graphics then X360 right ?

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#66 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] I wasn't aware that "they did it first!" was now a valid excuse.PublicNuisance

I never said it was a valid excuse, but it was a valid point.

Alongside such other compelling arguments as "he's looking at me!" and "she's breathing my air!"

Have some pride man, PC games aren't meant to play on low or medium, at least not in my mind.

PublicNuisance

It's just hardware. What does pride have to do with it?

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#67 GhoX
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Not enough blur, must be bad game.
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#68 PublicNuisance
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It's just hardware. What does pride have to do with it?

lowe0

I take pride in the fact that PC can give me better visuals than any other platform out there. I take pride in the fact that I built my own computer. The guy I was replying to seems to love to talk about better hardware even if he is trolling. It seems a waste to talk up PC's graphics if one was content with sticking a 5450 in their rig which will not show off at all why our platform is the best. It's like boasting about how fast a Ferrari is but then replacing the engine with one from a Pinto. Sure a Ferrari can be very fast but your Ferari won't be fast with the Pinto engine.

So I guess my point is that if someone is going o be all pro PC and talk about it's superior visuals than have enough pride in your computer to not recommend a video card that will not show those visuals off in the least.

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#69 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.Mozelleple112

I know. It's hilarious that the TC actually chose such a good looking game.

Your standards are really low then.. the game looks mediocre.

lolno.

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#70 PublicNuisance
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lolno.

lundy86_4

It is possible that Halo 4 is a fantastic looking console game but as soon as you go past consoles it truly is medicocre.

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#71 lundy86_4  Online
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It is possible that Halo 4 is a fantastic looking console game but as soon as you go past consoles it truly is medicocre.

PublicNuisance

Pretty much.

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#72 PublicNuisance
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Pretty much.

lundy86_4

See that's all we want. The proper wording.

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#73 lundy86_4  Online
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See that's all we want. The proper wording.

PublicNuisance

What? That's remarkably sad.

I can appreciate something for how it looks, without needing to draw obvious, yet inane, comparisons. Halo 4, in it's own right, looks very good.

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#74 PC_Otter
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

princeofshapeir

Get real...

Newegg has a 5450 for sale for $15. Better than a console.

A 5450 is not console quality. Barely a third depending the clock speed.
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#75 PublicNuisance
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What? That's remarkably sad.

I can appreciate something for how it looks, without needing to draw obvious, yet inane, comparisons. Halo 4, in it's own right, looks very good.

lundy86_4

See that right there is another example of acceptable wording: "In it's own right". See the fact that you console users have to word something a specific way for it to be true warms the cockles of my black heart.

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#76 lundy86_4  Online
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See that right there is another example of acceptable wording: "In it's own right". See the fact that you console users have to word something a specific way for it to be true warms the cockles of my black heart.

PublicNuisance

I'm a PC gamer/console gamer... Way to assume :lol:

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#77 PublicNuisance
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I'm a PC gamer/console gamer... Way to assume :lol:

lundy86_4

Not something I would be proud of if I were you. Cheating on PC with the dirty street walking consoles. You got the queen at home but you still feel the need for a little peasant action.

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#78 lundy86_4  Online
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Not something I would be proud of if I were you. Cheating on PC with the dirty street walking consoles. You got the queen at home but you still feel the need for a little peasant action.

PublicNuisance

Absolutely. I get to play some absolutely fantastic games that I can't get on the PC. It's why I own a Wii/PS3/360/3DS/PC. The WiiU will be my next purchase, more than likely.

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#79 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Not something I would be proud of if I were you. Cheating on PC with the dirty street walking consoles. You got the queen at home but you still feel the need for a little peasant action.

lundy86_4

Absolutely. I get to play some absolutely fantastic games that I can't get on the PC. It's why I own a Wii/PS3/360/3DS/PC. The WiiU will be my next purchase, more than likely.

You better stop quoting and talking to me. You're gonna get germs or something. Oh god, even my quoting could be hazardous.
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#80 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Not something I would be proud of if I were you. Cheating on PC with the dirty street walking consoles. You got the queen at home but you still feel the need for a little peasant action.

Michael0134567

Absolutely. I get to play some absolutely fantastic games that I can't get on the PC. It's why I own a Wii/PS3/360/3DS/PC. The WiiU will be my next purchase, more than likely.

You better stop quoting and talking to me. You're gonna get germs or something. Oh god, even my quoting could be hazardous.

Wat? Nooooooooo!

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#81 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Absolutely. I get to play some absolutely fantastic games that I can't get on the PC. It's why I own a Wii/PS3/360/3DS/PC. The WiiU will be my next purchase, more than likely.

lundy86_4

You better stop quoting and talking to me. You're gonna get germs or something. Oh god, even my quoting could be hazardous.

Wat? Nooooooooo!

Well if you start feeling ill, that's a sign :o.
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#82 Tommyjeeb
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Just out of curiosity what fps are pc gamers playing at the moment that can compete with halo in anything other than graphics?
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#83 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak

Low standards?

Not really, no. It looks awesome.

It looks good for a console game, however, it does not look awesome.
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#84 xterizorz
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Just out of curiosity what fps are pc gamers playing at the moment that can compete with halo in anything other than graphics?Tommyjeeb
Crysis 3 Stop Defending Your Console You Moron
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#85 ArisShadows
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Halo 4's graphicallywise look great, for being a console, and for someone like me who comes from a world of fully maxed games on my PC. Give credit where credit is due.
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#86 DragonfireXZ95
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Just out of curiosity what fps are pc gamers playing at the moment that can compete with halo in anything other than graphics?Tommyjeeb

Halo 4 actually has a pretty flawed MP. The multiplayer is full of glitches and lag. I've seen people go through walls, glitch into floors on flood mode, not die when being melee'd, vehicles that don't run over people despite going full speed, and some weapons are still unbalanced compared to others. Oh and unlocking plasma grenades = fail.

You're not doing much for your case when you tout Halo 4 as being a masterpiece in gameplay.

Oh and I forgot the massive FPS drops I've seen in the multiplayer, single and split screen.

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#87 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="yellonet"]Low standards?DragonfireXZ95
Not really, no. It looks awesome.

It looks good for a console game, however, it does not look awesome.

Disagree. For running at 720P on 7- year old hardware, it looks awesome.
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#88 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Not really, no. It looks awesome.

It looks good for a console game, however, it does not look awesome.

Disagree. For running at 720P on 7- year old hardware, it looks awesome.

Well then we agree to disagree. Because to me, it does not look awesome. :P
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#89 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] It looks good for a console game, however, it does not look awesome.

Disagree. For running at 720P on 7- year old hardware, it looks awesome.

Well then we agree to disagree. Because to me, it does not look awesome. :P

That's fine :P I'm not holding a gun to your head...yet.
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#90 xhawk27
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I think Halo 4 looks great and is the best looking console game on the 360.

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#91 LegatoSkyheart
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Battlefield 3 in a nutshell

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#92 shinigami-uk
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Do people try to have fun playing games anymore? It seems most people here just go around criticizing every little thing like a 2D mountain background. :lol:TheDidact
agree... as long as it doesn't look ugly i am fine with it. i mean if the backgrund was rendered in 3d then my only thought would be, great the devs managed pull it off, but its something that i hardly care about. similar to uncharted 3, the ship part with the waves rocking the boat in real time or something. oh great thats amazing, but it would probably be the same as using cheap techniques to replicate that.
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#93 GamerwillzPS
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Just add blur to cover embarrassing jaggies and low-res textures. That's how consoles roll.

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#94 GamerZem
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Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak

^

Also, nice sig.

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#95 loosingENDS
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Problem is that the game looks 10.000.000.000.000x better than the FAKE picture posted by the TC to deceive us all

Exposed, close the thread now

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The reason console games look so good considering their hardware is because developers can program the hardware at a much lower level. PC developers need to interface with the hardware through drivers which adds a lot of overhead.
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#97 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Not really, no. It looks awesome.freedomfreak
It looks good for a console game, however, it does not look awesome.

Disagree. For running at 720P on 7- year old hardware, it looks awesome.

I love how everyone always runs to "but but teh seven year old hardware" and ignores sacrifices have to be made

the framerate in co-op is nearly unplayble, while 3's framerate in 4 player split screen was solid.

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#98 HaloinventedFPS
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The reason console games look so good considering their hardware is because developers can program the hardware at a much lower level. PC developers need to interface with the hardware through drivers which adds a lot of overhead.PernicioEnigma

That's a myth, BF3 & Crysis 2 for example, can run on PC's with weaker hardware than consoles just fine.

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#99 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's just hardware. What does pride have to do with it?

PublicNuisance

I take pride in the fact that PC can give me better visuals than any other platform out there. I take pride in the fact that I built my own computer. The guy I was replying to seems to love to talk about better hardware even if he is trolling. It seems a waste to talk up PC's graphics if one was content with sticking a 5450 in their rig which will not show off at all why our platform is the best. It's like boasting about how fast a Ferrari is but then replacing the engine with one from a Pinto. Sure a Ferrari can be very fast but your Ferari won't be fast with the Pinto engine.

So I guess my point is that if someone is going o be all pro PC and talk about it's superior visuals than have enough pride in your computer to not recommend a video card that will not show those visuals off in the least.

My computer can produce far better visuals than my consoles, but I really don't see what I did to make that happen that would engender pride. I bought parts off of Amazon and fit them together. Unless you break it down to screws, my PC has 14 parts and 22 cables in it. Compared to the old days of setting jumpers, or the even older days of just getting a board and a box of parts, I didn't really build it; I merely assembled it.
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#100 GamerwillzPS
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Problem is that the game looks 10.000.000.000.000x better than the FAKE picture posted by the TC to deceive us all

Exposed, close the thread now

loosingENDS

You mean 10x?