I am a "new" Wii gamer, and you all make me feel sick

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

First? :lol: Maybe you should search Manhunt 2. I have no problem with violence in games, I refuse to live in a waterdown bubble.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

[QUOTE="Guitartod"]

[QUOTE="suzedouglas"]Blues 3531 -

The reasons videogames can't be called art is because they are all about killing as a sport. I am going to assume that most of those games you mentioned involve killing people for points.

A Wii game such as monkeys in a ball can truly be called art. To take such a simple concept and allow an entire family to get together and enjoy it, that's art.nytrospawn

If you are denying bioshock/hl2/oblivion their right to be called art then i really dont think u know anything about art at all....

I play guitar,piano,and paint i think i know a little bit about art...and i dont think a real gamer would ever say they have never found a profound message in a game"what a bout xenogears?" or caused a person to think or be inspired to develope a game with that other game inspireing them imo.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

Oh you aint seen nothin yet. :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/manhunt2/review.html?sid=6181991&tag=topslot;title;1

Yay another Super monkey ball fan (its not monkey in a ball)! That game is awesome. And when haters say its simple you know they have not played the game. Its deceptively hard.

But yeah as someone said before this is System wars. Everyone just likes to pay out each others consoles.

I mean if you like mini-games then the Wii is for you, but I like a story from the game. A story that is imaginative and detailed in my living room is considered art itself.

Hello all, I'm Suze Douglas. I bought a Wii a few weeks ago and have been having a boatload of fun with my kids playing games. Wii Sports, Monkeys in a Ball, "Wario Ware", Boogie have all been a riot. I decided to see what the real world of gaming is like and stumbled across this site.

Boy, does it make me feel sick.

All you people do is complain and whine about your precious "consoles". And what is worse, you sit there and demean the Wii, which is taking this industry to new heights. It seems there are a lot of people angry about what the Wii has done to gaming. Why? The games are more fun now, I am evidence of that. I would never have played any of your old "kill X amount of people in X amount of time" games. Nintendo is bringing games that everyone can enjoy, and play together. It's not about being by yourself and killing anymore, it's a much more healthy industry.

I hope you all can look in the mirror and see what you're saying. Games were in a terrible state before, but the Wii is allowing it to be for everyone. I know there are many new players like me voting with their wallets, and I hope we never get another slaughtering game again.

I hate to break it to you all, but you're going to have to adjust to the new, better, healthiervideogame industry. Playing tennis with your family is better than killing for fun.

suzedouglas

You must feel like the luckiest gal in the world stumbling into such a mecca for gaming enthusiasts.

PS: Congrats on the troll account

JiveT

This ain't no gal. No mom. This is someone who started a new account and is acting like it.

Weak.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

I mean if you like mini-games then the Wii is for you, but I like a story from the game. A story that is imaginative and detailed in my living room is considered art itself.

shadowfox55

Nearly every single video game story is s***. You know gamers have low standards when they think zelda was a good story. Stories are a nice touch and its good to have one. Now I can't understand why people would play videogames just for the story when a book or movie does a much better job of it.

See that Manhunt game is exactly what is wrong with the old industry, and I'm glad it's not on the Wii. Even Naruto is pushing it a little bit too far for my tastes.

Anyways, I am going to have to leave this site for a while, I might come back later and see what you all have had to say. Give Super Monkeys in a Ball a try, I'm sure you will all love it (especially the pirate level!) and will leave your other machines and Manhunts behind. suzedouglas

See that Manhunt game is exactly what is wrong with the old industry, and I'm glad it's not on the Wii. Even Naruto is pushing it a little bit too far for my tastes.

Anyways, I am going to have to leave this site for a while, I might come back later and see what you all have had to say. Give Super Monkeys in a Ball a try, I'm sure you will all love it (especially the pirate level!) and will leave your other machines and Manhunts behind. suzedouglas

See that Manhunt game is exactly what is wrong with the old industry, and I'm glad it's not on the Wii. Even Naruto is pushing it a little bit too far for my tastes.

Anyways, I am going to have to leave this site for a while, I might come back later and see what you all have had to say. Give Super Monkeys in a Ball a try, I'm sure you will all love it (especially the pirate level!) and will leave your other machines and Manhunts behind. suzedouglas

so you dont want violence at all in video games? that is lame you wanna kill the game industry

Blues 3531 -

The reasons videogames can't be called art is because they are all about killing as a sport. I am going to assume that most of those games you mentioned involve killing people for points.

A Wii game such as monkeys in a ball can truly be called art. To take such a simple concept and allow an entire family to get together and enjoy it, that's art.suzedouglas

lol if u werent a mom that would be sig worthy. its not killing for sport lol. how bout killing psychos to save an underwater dystopia and save children?

See that Manhunt game is exactly what is wrong with the old industry, and I'm glad it's not on the Wii. Even Naruto is pushing it a little bit too far for my tastes.

Anyways, I am going to have to leave this site for a while, I might come back later and see what you all have had to say. Give Super Monkeys in a Ball a try, I'm sure you will all love it (especially the pirate level!) and will leave your other machines and Manhunts behind. suzedouglas

wii is the worst console ever invented this is a gimmick and i really hope peoples someday will wake up and stop buying that scrap if you need exercise go outside but stop polluting gaming with your gimmickand have a nice day :)legol1

Nintendo made a fun product that appeals to the masses. So basically all you're saying is Nintendo is ruining gaming by making it fun. Great argument.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

While I have no problem with you disliking violent games, I don't think you should come on a gaming forum and tell other people what kind of games they shouldn't play, and the wii has manhunt 2.

Read the review

A suprise to many here: I bought my son a Wii for Christmas. Now, he won't get it until then and he'll only know that Santa brought it, but I got one today.

Here's my 2 cents on the subject. No offense "SuseDouglas", but you're are the type that's ruining gaming for me and other "hardcore" gamers. To say that you're worried about Naruto is laughable. That is by far the least of your worries. The Resident Evil and Manhuntgames are what you should actually worry about. Not to mention a slew of other horror games due out for the Wii. But, as a parent it's your duty to make sure those don't find a way into your home and worry less about whether or not Nintendo is supporting them.

I'm all for social gaming, but don't think for a second that I want to see gaming as a whole dilluted with the genre. Would you want to live in a world with nothing but Disney movies? That means no Reese Witherspoon, Julia Roberts, Meryl Streep or Diane Lane movies. Or, whoever it is you like. Well, according to your attitude towards gaming, that's how you'd like it to be.

Also, stop with the healthier games argument. It's entertainment. Do you want to exercise while you watch Desperate Housewives? No? Then leave it alone.

The TC used correct spelling and punctuation. She definitely isn't a hardcore gamer. Not one from System Wars anyway. Hexagon_777

wutchu talkin bout???

You are trying to hard to say video games is a bad industry where there are violent video games. What about movies, television shows. And you aren't going to let this inside your house, but what about schools and other public places. If you are trying to go on some crusaded to prevent violent video games being made the good luck. We need a variety like music, dance, foods, cultures without variety then people won't be able to express themselves. If you want your children to stay away from violent video games then don't buy it for them, but don't try to impose your idea on the rest of us because it is kid friendly. We have a different in taste from video games, and you will have to accept it.

[QUOTE="Trigger_Hppy"]I'm not trying to sound stupid, but is this satire? Or did a soccer mom actually come on here? It sounds so real... whatever, I *somewhat* agree, but you take it way to far. Serraph105

really? cause i thought it sounded so fake (and i happen love the wii by btw) mainly because she talks like a true gamer soccer moms dont talk about the shape of the videogame industry like she does or voting with their wallets

But she DOES use proper punctuation and spelling, which tells me it's not a normal poster in these boards.

Hello sir,

There is a new game on the Wii called Manhunt 2, I think you should buy it for yourself and your children. It will help them grow. It will take them to new heights.

buuzer0

Are you all blind?

:lol: @ this poster and thread. We have seen better trolls, but it's a slow day at SW I guess.

Hello all, I'm Suze Douglas. I bought a Wii a few weeks ago and have been having a boatload of fun with my kids playing games. Wii Sports, Monkeys in a Ball, "Wario Ware", Boogie have all been a riot. I decided to see what the real world of gaming is like and stumbled across this site.

Boy, does it make me feel sick.

All you people do is complain and whine about your precious "consoles". And what is worse, you sit there and demean the Wii, which is taking this industry to new heights. It seems there are a lot of people angry about what the Wii has done to gaming. Why? The games are more fun now, I am evidence of that. I would never have played any of your old "kill X amount of people in X amount of time" games. Nintendo is bringing games that everyone can enjoy, and play together. It's not about being by yourself and killing anymore, it's a much more healthy industry.

I hope you all can look in the mirror and see what you're saying. Games were in a terrible state before, but the Wii is allowing it to be for everyone. I know there are many new players like me voting with their wallets, and I hope we never get another slaughtering game again.

I hate to break it to you all, but you're going to have to adjust to the new, better, healthiervideogame industry. Playing tennis with your family is better than killing for fun.

suzedouglas

I don't care whether you're a mother, father, how old you are, or whatever. This post is garbage because

A) You're on a hardcore/Decent gaming site, with happy claims that you can now play games with your family

B) Your post implies that Nintendo's Wii is the jesus of gaming

C) It makes all other systems sound like GTA Peddlers

And D) This is system wars *kicks into well*

Your post is pretty much dissing a place where people come to argue. If you wish to remain here, I reccomend that you get used to it. If you're making a one time post, know this. Family gaming isn't for everyone, and your post sounds like something a video game hitler would say. Family healthy nutcake fruittard isn't for everyone, and no it isn't better than everything else. Would I prefer running around as a ghetto thug in enemy territory to an interactive tennis? Yes I would. That is my opinion, you have no right to claim that your system is better without even bringing in decent comparisons, which most fanboys even do. At least do some research before you come in with poorly constructed, opinionated posts about how the Wii saved the gaming society from a huge cesspool that it was falling in before. Manhunt 2. GTA IV. MGS4. Halo 3. These are not games to play with your six year old, and Wii will not stop it. Wii hasn't saved anything, and it hasn't introduced anything that's remarkably better than anything else in terms of gameplay, it just appeals to your kind (n00b moms with kids who are looking for a family friendly way to play games and monitor their gameplay) and is bought in mass quantities. Unless you've been in this industry for a long amount of time to actually *make* a decent comparison (and if you have, I apologize) feel free to GTFO or bring in concrete evidence.

Welcome to System Wars.

A suprise to many here: I bought my son a Wii for Christmas. Now, he won't get it until then and he'll only know that Santa brought it, but I got one today.

Here's my 2 cents on the subject. No offense "SuseDouglas", but you're are the type that's ruining gaming for me and other "hardcore" gamers. To say that you're worried about Naruto is laughable. That is by far the least of your worries. The Resident Evil and Manhuntgames are what you should actually worry about. Not to mention a slew of other horror games due out for the Wii. But, as a parent it's your duty to make sure those don't find a way into your home and worry less about whether or not Nintendo is supporting them.

I'm all for social gaming, but don't think for a second that I want to see gaming as a whole dilluted with the genre. Would you want to live in a world with nothing but Disney movies? That means no Reese Witherspoon, Julia Roberts, Meryl Streep or Diane Lane movies. Or, whoever it is you like. Well, according to your attitude towards gaming, that's how you'd like it to be.

Also, stop with the healthier games argument. It's entertainment. Do you want to exercise while you watch Desperate Housewives? No? Then leave it alone.

rhaigun

Hello all, I'm Suze Douglas. I bought a Wii a few weeks ago and have been having a boatload of fun with my kids playing games. Wii Sports, Monkeys in a Ball, "Wario Ware", Boogie have all been a riot. I decided to see what the real world of gaming is like and stumbled across this site.

Boy, does it make me feel sick.

All you people do is complain and whine about your precious "consoles". And what is worse, you sit there and demean the Wii, which is taking this industry to new heights. It seems there are a lot of people angry about what the Wii has done to gaming. Why? The games are more fun now, I am evidence of that. I would never have played any of your old "kill X amount of people in X amount of time" games. Nintendo is bringing games that everyone can enjoy, and play together. It's not about being by yourself and killing anymore, it's a much more healthy industry.

I hope you all can look in the mirror and see what you're saying. Games were in a terrible state before, but the Wii is allowing it to be for everyone. I know there are many new players like me voting with their wallets, and I hope we never get another slaughtering game again.

I hate to break it to you all, but you're going to have to adjust to the new, better, healthiervideogame industry. Playing tennis with your family is better than killing for fun.

suzedouglas

wow you should feel good for yourself.. but tennis gets kind of boring after a while. and when you get home from work where your job is to calm irate customers down sometimes you just want to play gears of war or a great game with a struggle between good and evil.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

It's good that you are 'researching' games before buying and i respect that sense of responsibility. You've just come to the wrong side of the game site.'General Games Discussion' or the 'Wii' board is probably where you should be browsing.

Actually to the people who are saying I am "some dudey" who is faking liking the Wii (as if it's impossible to like), this is quite far fetched. I have recently fell in love with some games on the system, and me and my children (even sometimes my husband!) all have a blast on the Wii. I decided to look up some games my children may enjoy and got to your site. Guitar Hero sounds fun (maybe my kids can learn to appreciate music too!).

Anyways, I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm just saying you should all learn to accept that Nintendo is taking your video games industry to great new heights. I wish you all wouldn't look at it with such resentment and embrace it.suzedouglas

now i am a wii enthusiast... mainly for N exclusives but uh... yeah monkeys in a ball was done some 6 years ago on a "killing for points" console. and alao, there are quite a few "killing for points" games on the wii.

furthermore, you and most peoples on thew site look at games differently. you can't tell someone their hobby is 'wrong'. and uh... in case you HADN'T seen the board title it says 'system wars' (i.e bash the console you hate most.).

and furthermore, i think the 'killing for points' games of yours are generally the ones with most innovationin the wii department.

and furthermore, you complain about people demaning the wii, then tell them their "killing for points" consoles "make you sick"...?

oh yeah, and guitar hero... *cough*MUSIC????!!! you press a couple of ****tty knobbles. and jst so you know, i am a musician, guitar hero has **** all to do with music[/rant].

thank you and goodbyes :)

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

Don't look to 700 club for your game reccomendations. You're really starting to sound like a troll.

Yeha.....this thread proves wii is for children and their moms....on a more serious note yes the wii is ruining gaming not taking it to new hights...its made games to simple and bland give me bioshock over wario ware anyday of the week...shoot i hate PS3 but i would rather own a ps3 1000years before a wii....and technology is supposed to progress not regressGuitartod

some games are very casual, yes, but there are a lot of titles with amazing depth on the Wii.

Ignore the Wii haters. Most of them are just upset because they now wish they had bought a Wii instead of one of those other "consoles". They won't admit that of course, even to themselves. But deep down inside, they wish they had chosen the Wii instead.Number_1_Gamer

I'm laughing even more at the posters responding with well thought out 200+ word essays.

:lol:

I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.MonacoX

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

[QUOTE="shadowfox55"]

I mean if you like mini-games then the Wii is for you, but I like a story from the game. A story that is imaginative and detailed in my living room is considered art itself.

monkeysrfat

Nearly every single video game story is s***. You know gamers have low standards when they think zelda was a good story. Stories are a nice touch and its good to have one. Now I can't understand why people would play videogames just for the story when a book or movie does a much better job of it.

Because it gives people a since of accomplishment. You sit down and go through a game and once you beat the game you get a treat of a story. What about the Kingdom Hearts series didn't they have a good storyline. Games take you along with the story in a different way than the moives or books because you are more involved in the story, you take the story where you want it to go (most of the time). I like the feeling of being involved with the story of a video game and I think alot of gamers do to.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

It's already been censored to bits in the States so that kids can watch it, despite the show beng geared more towards teenagers. Don't blame the show if it's not even meant for your kids or anything like that, please. American dubbers have ruined the story as well as numerous other things so that the show is kid friendly as is.

I'm laughing even more at the posters responding with well thought out 200+ word essays.

:lol:

buuzer0

You should've seen the look on my face after I was done with my post, then I had the thought of the poster being a troll.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

You're a soccer mom...your opinion on videogames doesn't matter to the 18-49 male demographic. Plus,do you go to TV.com and bother people saying how you love high school musical and that CSI and Prisonbreak aren't art.

Quite a few people here forgot to add IMO to their posts.

I prefer my videogames to have a little more depth than challenging me to swing my arms in a bizarre fashion. You claim that you are proof that the Wii has made gaming better, simply because you are now a "gamer", which is weak evidence at best. Should we replace novels with pictures books in libraries? They reach a wider audience I'm sure. Furthermore, you call older games, "slaughtering games", when the same such games are present on the Wii as well. Manhunt 2 anyone? Next, you keep going on about violent videogame, which you have baselessly linked to violence in real life.

Lets consult the facts on this one, shall we?

http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/violence_and_videogames

People often claim that Video Games are "murder simulators", which should come as no surprise to anyone who knows even a bit of history. People fear change, and this reappears throughout history, and is happening with the the popular perception of Video-Games. Did you know that Poetry was once considered vile, and a corrupted the minds of children? Or how about an example that may hit closer to home for you, Rock and Roll was once described as "satanic". You insult Video-Games without reasonable evidence to support your claims, and you haven't realised that your actions are the exact same as the actions of the ignorant of the past. History is bound to repeat itself if we don't learn the lessons of the past, which you clearly have not. While you may be chronologically older than I am, I have to bring your maturity into question.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.mjarantilla

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Congrats on your purchase, here are two games that I think you and your children will enjoy: Resident Evil and Manhunt 2. I hope you remember these games while you do your Christmas shopping.