I am a "new" Wii gamer, and you all make me feel sick

[QUOTE="Guitartod"]Yeha.....this thread proves wii is for children and their moms....on a more serious note yes the wii is ruining gaming not taking it to new hights...its made games to simple and bland give me bioshock over wario ware anyday of the week...shoot i hate PS3 but i would rather own a ps3 1000years before a wii....and technology is supposed to progress not regresssvetzenlether

The Wii's technology has progressed over the last gen; it's a more powerful machine than the Gamecube or Xbox, just not at the level of the other two. And one other thing, genious: don't go calling something simple and bland when 80% of the titles on your system of choice are FPS' that are either already out on the PC or will arrive on the PC as a better game. If you don't think that's bland, than you must really have low standards.

Foolishness bolded, and that's pretty much an unprevoked attack on Guitartod. For all you know, he may be a Hermit.

Hello all, I'm Suze Douglas. I bought a Wii a few weeks ago and have been having a boatload of fun with my kids playing games. Wii Sports, Monkeys in a Ball, "Wario Ware", Boogie have all been a riot. I decided to see what the real world of gaming is like and stumbled across this site.

Boy, does it make me feel sick.

All you people do is complain and whine about your precious "consoles". And what is worse, you sit there and demean the Wii, which is taking this industry to new heights. It seems there are a lot of people angry about what the Wii has done to gaming. Why? The games are more fun now, I am evidence of that. I would never have played any of your old "kill X amount of people in X amount of time" games. Nintendo is bringing games that everyone can enjoy, and play together. It's not about being by yourself and killing anymore, it's a much more healthy industry.

I hope you all can look in the mirror and see what you're saying. Games were in a terrible state before, but the Wii is allowing it to be for everyone. I know there are many new players like me voting with their wallets, and I hope we never get another slaughtering game again.

I hate to break it to you all, but you're going to have to adjust to the new, better, healthiervideogame industry. Playing tennis with your family is better than killing for fun.

suzedouglas

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.mjarantilla

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Name 15?

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.MonacoX

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Brainless YES. You praise games like BioShock, Oblivion, and even previous Xbox games like KotOR without realizing just how dumbed down they were compared to their predecessors. There are only a few exceptions, and I personally can't think of any in this current generation (other than POSSIBLY SMG and Assassin's Creed).

By variety, I mean I don't want to SHOOT every goddang thing in sight, thank you very much. About a third of the Xbox 360's library of decent games (8.0+ on Metacritic) are sports games, and about half of what's left are military games with no story and no drive for independent thought.

The thing is the Wii is the best selling system this gen and "hardcore" gamers can't stand it. They hate the fact that Nintendo is on top once again. Truth hurts. People all over the world have having tons of fun and great times playing the Wii with friends, family, and significant others. My fiance would never play games if it wasn't for the Wii. I will say that you can't have a "full" gaming experience by owning just a Wii, but I've owned all next gen systems and I prefer Wii and PS3 to the 360 by far (my opinion).

Problem for cry babies is that the Wii has a great lineup and more and more games are always announced for the Wii. I really hope the PS3 can sell out this Christmas, it would be nice if they can get more systems out there. I strongly believe that Nintendo will dominate the sales this Christmas over the competition as it's done since launch and continue to build it's fan base. Anyone that doubts the Wii either hasn't played it, or is a loner.

[QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

[QUOTE="Guitartod"]Yeha.....this thread proves wii is for children and their moms....on a more serious note yes the wii is ruining gaming not taking it to new hights...its made games to simple and bland give me bioshock over wario ware anyday of the week...shoot i hate PS3 but i would rather own a ps3 1000years before a wii....and technology is supposed to progress not regressTrue_Sephiroth8

The Wii's technology has progressed over the last gen; it's a more powerful machine than the Gamecube or Xbox, just not at the level of the other two. And one other thing, genious: don't go calling something simple and bland when 80% of the titles on your system of choice are FPS' that are either already out on the PC or will arrive on the PC as a better game. If you don't think that's bland, than you must really have low standards.

Foolishness bolded, and that's pretty much an unprevoked attack on Guitartod. For all you know, he may be a Hermit.

Yeah, true enough. I just can't see how so many people can get excited overMORE FPS' that don't really add anything new. I mainly disagreed with how he said the Wii's ruining gaming, and I don't see how expanding the marketplace could "ruin" anything. The film industry's expanded like crazy in its lifespan, and yeah, there's junk, there's stuff that doesn't appeal to everyone, but there's enough there that there's something for everybody. It hasn't ruined the film industry one bit.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.True_Sephiroth8

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Name 15?

15 brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever? I can probably name thirty in this generation alone. If you mean name 15 intelligent games on the Wii, I can't do that. I'm not so fanboyish as to think that the Wii has a "decent" library yet, since it hasn't even been a year yet (you probably can't even name fifteen non-sports 360 games worth playing that came out in its first year). But take a survey of each system's top five most high-profile games, and you'll see a marked difference in priorities: four of the Wii's top five games (Zelda TP, SMG, Metroid Prime 3, Zack & Wiki) all encourage the player to use their imagination and deduce solutions by themselves, whereas three of the 360's top five games are all corridor shooters that lead you by the nose from room to room. Of the remaining two, Oblivion has nothing but QUANTITY but no quality. BioShock is the only "intelligent" game the 360 has right now, and probably the only one it'll get in the near future (Mass Effect may or may not be intelligent; I'm excited for it, but for God's sakes, its story sounds like something out of Star Trek).

A suprise to many here: I bought my son a Wii for Christmas. Now, he won't get it until then and he'll only know that Santa brought it, but I got one today.

Here's my 2 cents on the subject. No offense "SuseDouglas", but you're are the type that's ruining gaming for me and other "hardcore" gamers. To say that you're worried about Naruto is laughable. That is by far the least of your worries. The Resident Evil and Manhuntgames are what you should actually worry about. Not to mention a slew of other horror games due out for the Wii. But, as a parent it's your duty to make sure those don't find a way into your home and worry less about whether or not Nintendo is supporting them.

I'm all for social gaming, but don't think for a second that I want to see gaming as a whole dilluted with the genre. Would you want to live in a world with nothing but Disney movies? That means no Reese Witherspoon, Julia Roberts, Meryl Streep or Diane Lane movies. Or, whoever it is you like. Well, according to your attitude towards gaming, that's how you'd like it to be.

Also, stop with the healthier games argument. It's entertainment. Do you want to exercise while you watch Desperate Housewives? No? Then leave it alone.

rhaigun

I concur.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.mjarantilla

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Brainless YES. You praise games like BioShock, Oblivion, and even previous Xbox games like KotOR without realizing just how dumbed down they were compared to their predecessors. There are only a few exceptions, and I personally can't think of any in this current generation (other than POSSIBLY SMG and Assassin's Creed).

By variety, I mean I don't want to SHOOT every goddang thing in sight, thank you very much. About a third of the Xbox 360's library of decent games (8.0+ on Metacritic) are sports games, and about half of what's left are military games with no story and no drive for independent thought.

Listen lady, but you are about as educated as a gerbil when it comes to video games, Nintendo has changed the industry, but if you don't think there is no shooters on the Wii, you are dead wrong...Resident Evil 4, Red Steel, or Metroid Prime 3 anyone?

And, you know NOTHING about past gaming, and the Wii isn't "real gaming" if all you do is play Tennis or them minigames. Try playing a real game like Zelda, or God of War, or Okami, then come back to us and see what a video game is, because it sure as hell isn't waving your arms around.

Hi Suze,

I think you're adjusting well to this sick and twisted world you just had to post in, like a bloody wreck on the highway you can't take you're eyes away from but you're far too busy to stop and help.

Neways, what a bunch of nerds think on a darkened corner of a website shouldn't affect a soccer mom, but I think its interested how you're already flaming games you havn't played. You're already on your way to becoming a fanboy.

Games are games, they are entertainment, just like movies, and while you may not watch a lot of porn, or action movies or whatever, theres a market for it, and its still a viable form of entertainment, no matter what middle-aged women decide about it (or what Oprah tells them to think)

Just keep in mind, you're a gamer now, don't discount other gamers just because you don't understand why we like the games we play.

Maybe you should try it before you decide it's stupid. Many people think the Wii is dumb until they play it.

You must feel like the luckiest gal in the world stumbling into such a mecca for gaming enthusiasts.

PS: Congrats on the troll account

JiveT

Congrats from me too.

[QUOTE="True_Sephiroth8"][QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.mjarantilla

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Name 15?

15 brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever? I can probably name thirty in this generation alone. If you mean name 15 intelligent games on the Wii, I can't do that. I'm not so fanboyish as to think that the Wii has a "decent" library yet, since it hasn't even been a year yet (you probably can't even name fifteen non-sports 360 games worth playing that came out in its first year). But take a survey of each system's top five most high-profile games, and you'll see a marked difference in priorities: four of the Wii's top five games (Zelda TP, SMG, Metroid Prime 3, Zack & Wiki) all encourage the player to use their imagination and deduce solutions by themselves, whereas three of the 360's top five games are all corridor shooters that lead you by the nose from room to room. Of the remaining two, Oblivion has nothing but QUANTITY but no quality. BioShock is the only "intelligent" game the 360 has right now, and probably the only one it'll get in the near future (Mass Effect may or may not be intelligent; I'm excited for it, but for God's sakes, its story sounds like something out of Star Trek).

Fifteen brainless games. C'mon.

Welcome to System Wars.crazyjames1080

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="MonacoX"]I mean no disrespect, Lady, but you dont know what you are talking about. I have no problem with you enjoying the wii, just realize that this sort of thing was made for (what we in system wars call casual gamers) people like you. You might enjoy these simplistic games but someone who has been gaming their entire life appreciates developers pushing the envelope and creating deeper and more complex experiences.MonacoX

Or maybe someone who has been gaming all of their life would appreciate some variety in their experiences, instead of settling for brainless adrenaline thrillfests with no thought or intelligence whatsoever.

Brainless YES. You praise games like BioShock, Oblivion, and even previous Xbox games like KotOR without realizing just how dumbed down they were compared to their predecessors. There are only a few exceptions, and I personally can't think of any in this current generation (other than POSSIBLY SMG and Assassin's Creed).

By variety, I mean I don't want to SHOOT every goddang thing in sight, thank you very much. About a third of the Xbox 360's library of decent games (8.0+ on Metacritic) are sports games, and about half of what's left are military games with no story and no drive for independent thought.

In what way were BioShock and KotOR dumbed down? Why don't you play Baldur's Gate II and System Shock 1/2?

And you ask me for games which offer independent thought:
- Zack & Wiki
- Zelda TP
- Metroid Prime 3
- Super Mario Galaxy
- Super Paper Mario

They aren't uber-difficult mind-benders (except maybe Z&W's later levels), but at least they stimulate imagination and compel the player to advance to the next level by his own effort, rather simply killing twenty of the same bad guys you've killed a thousand times before to trigger yet another scripted event the way Gears, Halo 3, GRAW, COD, PDZ, and virtually every other major game on the 360 does.

I can't even think of ANY 360 game that allows the player to pursue his own solution to a problem other than BioShock and Assassin's Creed.

I suppose I should clarify a point (it seems I have caused some aggression here) - when I say the video game playing industry was in trouble before, I mean content wise.

I've watched some programs about violence in videogames, and have been astonished at the idea of awarding "points" for killing other people. I would never let any of my children near these games. Then I heard about the Wii, a game machine with no such games. Where people can enjoy little games and share moments with each other.

Actually though, I'm a little worried about the Wii's first violent game "Naruto". My kids liked this show until I found out it was about little kids beating each other up. Now there is a fighting game about little kids on the Wii, which I find distasteful.

It's one game I have to steer clear of and hope others will do the same.

suzedouglas

Ok this has to be a joke thread! Im sorry but Naruto is far from being what i would called violent, do you stop your kids from watching disney cartoons.

Most cartoons have people fighting other people, as i bought up disney lets start with that,the hercules film he chops of a monters head where you can see the muscles and bone underneath multiple times and punches and hits people. That is only one of many disney films that have cartoon character attacking one another.

The reason i bought up Disney was most people see them as being for kids then most other cartoons!

And compared to the Japanese original the western dub of Naruto is so tame in comparison and the japanese have know issues with there children watching it.

The thing is the Wii is the best selling system this gen and "hardcore" gamers can't stand it. They hate the fact that Nintendo is on top once again. Truth hurts. People all over the world have having tons of fun and great times playing the Wii with friends, family, and significant others. My fiance would never play games if it wasn't for the Wii. I will say that you can't have a "full" gaming experience by owning just a Wii, but I've owned all next gen systems and I prefer Wii and PS3 to the 360 by far (my opinion).

Problem for cry babies is that the Wii has a great lineup and more and more games are always announced for the Wii. I really hope the PS3 can sell out this Christmas, it would be nice if they can get more systems out there. I strongly believe that Nintendo will dominate the sales this Christmas over the competition as it's done since launch and continue to build it's fan base. Anyone that doubts the Wii either hasn't played it, or is a loner.

SuperMaWiiOH

I know that 67% of people in a certain country are not having to much fun playing there Wii's

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