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#1 kansasdude2009
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SHOOTERS!!!

You no longer have to expose yourself to incoming fire to take a shot.

Just hope you can get in without being seen.

Fallout 3 Screenshot

SO MANY SHOOTERS!!!

Is this the only thing that sells? Because honestly, i'm sick of them. I bought 5 shooters this year alone. I go out and I buy a nice Action RPG, Fable 2, and it does NOTHING new, it is extremely linear, and the dog is annoying. Is this the only genre that western development teams feel safe with? Because honestly, I need a vacation.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

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#2 chaoz-king
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Looks fun to me.
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#3 -Sniper99-
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LBP
:)
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#4 Giancar
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me too

I miss JRPG's this gen, speaking in consoles

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#5 FusionApex
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I must say, every game I own for PS3 is a shooter, except for lair, which I pretend to not own.
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#6 Stoner-Pimp
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You can never have enough shooters matey, shooter 4 life!!! (well all but UT3, you can keep that mess i don't want it).
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#7 WasntAvailable
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Most gamers don't play games to engage with an epic story or universe; most gamers play games to have fun and/ or release their frustrations. Shooters are great at this. What else did you wan't to hear? Face it, shooters are what most gamers wan't, so developers will keep making them, and they will continue to make them well. If you don't like shooters, play something else. If you can't find anything else you either don't like gaming or you really love shooters.
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#8 Giancar
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I really miss Platformer this gen too :(
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#9 kansasdude2009
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LBP
:)
-Sniper99-

I don't have a PS3 (I really want one for MGS4 :cry: ), but honestly (don't hate me), when I played it over at my friend's house, I wasn't impressed by the actual gameplay. Now, the User Created Content is so unbelievably amazing, so undeniably worth buying the game, that... well... I would buy the game, but I didn't like the floaty gameplay. :(

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Most gamers don't play games to engage with an epic story or universe; most gamers play games to have fun and/ or release their frustrations. Shooters are great at this. What else did you wan't to hear? Face it, shooters are what most gamers wan't, so developers will keep making them, and they will continue to make them well. If you don't like shooters, play something else. If you can't find anything else you either don't like gaming or you really love shooters.WasntAvailable

I know that there are other games... but they are not nearly as well developed. I bought 5 shooters this year (soon to be 6) because they are outstanding games. But, I went back to Zelda:TP the other day and I really miss the slower pace and many gameplay elements. Heck, I went back and played Metroid Prime 3 also, and it was a nicer pace and I found some more puzzles that made me think. Honestly... I miss THINKING in games. >_>

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#14 Kenny789
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Yeah I feel the same way. Wish devs would step out of the shooter ring and try developing something new and unique. The problem is, they know people will buy shooters and everyone loves them :?
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#15 randomguy15
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If your tired of shooters, buy a Wii.
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#16 aliblabla2007
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I'm tired of complaints like this. You're not forced to buy the shooters, in case you didn't realize.
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#17 Zerual
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Ok then get Fable 2, LBP or ToV.
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#18 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]Most gamers don't play games to engage with an epic story or universe; most gamers play games to have fun and/ or release their frustrations. Shooters are great at this. What else did you wan't to hear? Face it, shooters are what most gamers wan't, so developers will keep making them, and they will continue to make them well. If you don't like shooters, play something else. If you can't find anything else you either don't like gaming or you really love shooters.kansasdude2009

I know that there are other games... but they are not nearly as well developed. I bought 5 shooters this year (soon to be 6) because they are outstanding games. But, I went back to Zelda:TP the other day and I really miss the slower pace and many gameplay elements. Heck, I went back and played Metroid Prime 3 also, and it was a nicer pace and I found some more puzzles that made me think. Honestly... I miss THINKING in games. >_>

See, I knew it. You love shooters. Seriously, I doubt you are that tired of shooters. If you're anything like me you weave in and out. Sometimes you wan't an RPG, sometimes you want a racer and every other time you wan't a shooter. Even when you go to play something else, you eventually get drawn back to the mindless violence promoters. It's just the way it is. You should check out Mirrors Edge though, it's still technically got FPS elements, but it dosn't seem to focused on them. What about PoP? That looks awesome. Banjo Kazoie? Well if you like that sort of thing. Last Remmenant? Might be pretty good. You just have to maintain an open mind, and you will find something.

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#19 joopyme
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a blog, might have sufficed?
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#20 Bentham
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I bought 5 shooters this year (soon to be 6) because they are outstanding games.

kansasdude2009

Then this thread is pointless. If you are so tired of shooters, stop buying them.

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#21 kansasdude2009
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I am tired of these threads. If you're tired of shooters, then there is a plethora of games outside of the shooter genre.Bentham

that are not nearly as well developed...

The top non-shooters on the 360:

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion: I own on my PC, and it's fun... I played it for about 2 months.

Forza Motorsport 2: Don't Own, don't care for racing games

NHL 09: Don't Own

Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution: Don't Own (there are better strategy games on PC)

Burnout Paradise: Don't Own, don't care for racing games

Rock Band: I own RB2 ^__^

Assassin's Creed: Did own, but the game was FAR too linear and repetative. The story was good and MAN was the climbing awesome... but it's one year old and it did nothing truly new.

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#22 HarlockJC
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They will burn themselves out. There is only so many people who buy shooters when you have so many come out at one time some of them are bound to fail in sales. It happens to all genres.

The question is which shooters will it be.

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Games not shooters that are good

LBP

Fable 2

TOV

Valkyria Chronicles

De Blob

World of Goo

NHL

Burnout Paradise

There is a range of games to choose from i don't see why your complaining so much...

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#24 kansasdude2009
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[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

I bought 5 shooters this year (soon to be 6) because they are outstanding games.

Bentham

Then this thread is pointless. If you are so tired of shooters, stop buying them.

The point is, if I stopped buying them, I would have little to no AAA content to play. I can't believe people don't care that what you "gamers" play over and over is similar gameplay tactics used in different situations. Now, they are excelent titles, but the fact that most of you don't care AT ALL really startles me.

I guess this is system wars, what else do you have to fight with if you take away shooters, mirite? >_>

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#25 SOedipus
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I'm tired of crappy and mediocre shooters.

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#26 kansasdude2009
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Games not shooters that are good

LBP: I really do want to own this game, but I don't have a PS3.

Fable 2: I own this game... it does nothing original and it has poorly developed co-op (unlike most all shooters).

TOV: Tales games are fun... but this tales... is like all other tales. >_>

Valkyria Chronicles: I do not own this, maybe i'll check it out.

De Blob: Rented it, played for about 5 hours. Interesting concept, but it's sadly under-developed.

World of Goo: EXCELENT TITLE. I reviewed it at a 9.0, but it sadly only took 6 hours to beat.

NHL: Don't care for sport titles....

Burnout Paradise: Don't care for racing titles....

There is a range of games to choose from i don't see why your complaining so much...

fistoflight

I created a list of shooters LONGER than your list of decent non-shooter titles... and I left out most of them. People may think this is pointless, but I want BETTER content in games that are not shooters. Where are my Action/Adventure titles? Where are my platformers? Where is the originality?

It honestly surprises me that the consensus on system wars is to live with what is there. Aren't you all supposed to be the hardest people to satisfy? Demand more from your developers!

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#27 SpruceCaboose
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If you only see shooters, you are not looking hard enough.

And I love shooters, so the influx of some fantastic shooters does not bother me a bit.

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#28 white_sox
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I am tired of sheep complaining about shooters, and is that Fallout 3? *tsk tsk*
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#29 HarlockJC
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If you only see shooters, you are not looking hard enough.

And I love shooters, so the influx of some fantastic shooters does not bother me a bit.

SpruceCaboose

Well expect there are too many for you to keep up with.

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#30 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

If you only see shooters, you are not looking hard enough.

And I love shooters, so the influx of some fantastic shooters does not bother me a bit.

HarlockJC

Well expect there are too many for you to keep up with.

There are too many games ATM for me to keep up with. But eventually, there will be a lull, as happens in gaming, and when that happens, I will have some older titles I missed to fall back on.

Its all good!

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LBP
:)
-Sniper99-

Also wipeout HD

Both were super nice breath of fresh air.

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#32 kansasdude2009
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If you only see shooters, you are not looking hard enough.

And I love shooters, so the influx of some fantastic shooters does not bother me a bit.

SpruceCaboose

Oh, i'm looking pretty hard. Since August, the only AA (there is no AAA titles except NHL) titles that are non-shooters to come out for the 360 are:

Madden NFL 09, Tales of Vesperia, Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 09, Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise, NHL 09, Rock Band 2, Pure, FIFA Soccer 09, Fable II, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Guitar Hero World Tour, Scene It? Box Office Smash.

So, out of 12 games, we have:

  • 4 sports titles
  • 2 Action/RPGs
  • 2 Music titles
  • 1 Action Game
  • 1 Racing game
  • 1 "Virtual Life"
  • 1 Party Game
When compared to 8 shooters, 3 of which are AAA. Hardly the amazing selection.....
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#33 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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And here i was going to come into this topic and tell the TC to buy a Wii :P

yeah, the shooters are getting a bit rediculous.

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#34 campzor
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[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]LBP
:)
Sully28

Also wipeout HD

Both were super nice breath of fresh air.


Well he apparently hates racing games... and he doesnt have a ps3... and his getting sick of shooters for some ungodly reason...
what GENRE ARE you looking for? and ill tell u a good game .
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#35 kansasdude2009
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I am tired of sheep complaining about shooters, and is that Fallout 3? *tsk tsk* white_sox

I'm not a sheep... I do own a Wii and a DS, but I play my PC far more than either my Wii or my 360. The next game I plan on buying is Left 4 Dead (you know, a reasonably original FPS).

Fallout 3 is an RPG, but it's mostly... you got it... shooting. Just look at the final levels.... it plays almost identically to a shooter.

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[QUOTE="Sully28"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]LBP
:)
campzor

Also wipeout HD

Both were super nice breath of fresh air.


Well he apparently hates racing games... and he doesnt have a ps3... and his getting sick of shooters for some ungodly reason...
what GENRE ARE you looking for? and ill tell u a good game .

Action/Adventure and Platforming with absolutely no shooting... within the last year.

Racing games are fun... but I have Burnout Revenge, and I didn't want to spend the money on Paridise... :/

The only thing I can think of is LBP... which I want... but I have to buy a PS3 first.

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#37 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

If you only see shooters, you are not looking hard enough.

And I love shooters, so the influx of some fantastic shooters does not bother me a bit.

kansasdude2009

Oh, i'm looking pretty hard. Since August, the only AA (there is no AAA titles except NHL) titles that are non-shooters to come out for the 360 are:

Madden NFL 09, Tales of Vesperia, Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 09, Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise, NHL 09, Rock Band 2, Pure, FIFA Soccer 09, Fable II, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Guitar Hero World Tour, Scene It? Box Office Smash.

So, out of 12 games, we have:

  • 4 sports titles
  • 2 Action/RPGs
  • 2 Music titles
  • 1 Action Game
  • 1 Racing game
  • 1 "Virtual Life"
  • 1 Party Game

When compared to 8 shooters, 3 of which are AAA. Hardly the amazing selection.....

Judging by what scoring system? I have been playing alot of great games that are not shooters in between my shooters.

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[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

Oh, i'm looking pretty hard. Since August, the only AA (there is no AAA titles except NHL) titles that are non-shooters to come out for the 360 are:

Madden NFL 09, Tales of Vesperia, Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 09, Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise, NHL 09, Rock Band 2, Pure, FIFA Soccer 09, Fable II, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Guitar Hero World Tour, Scene It? Box Office Smash.

So, out of 12 games, we have:

  • 4 sports titles
  • 2 Action/RPGs
  • 2 Music titles
  • 1 Action Game
  • 1 Racing game
  • 1 "Virtual Life"
  • 1 Party Game

When compared to 8 shooters, 3 of which are AAA. Hardly the amazing selection.....SpruceCaboose

Judging by what scoring system? I have been playing alot of great games that are not shooters in between my shooters.

It's based off of Gamespot's scoring system, you know... the official scoring system for System Wars :roll:

name them please, I would like to know what i'm missing.

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LBP, VC, GTA 4, MGS4, fable 2, mass effect, eternal sonata, ninja gaiden, super mario galaxy, brawl? where have you been? :O
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LBP, VC, GTA 4, MGS4, fable 2, mass effect, eternal sonata, ninja gaiden, super mario galaxy, brawl? where have you been? :O0rbs

LBP, Ninja Gaiden (god awful camera), and VC are valid.

GTA4 and MGS4 focus on shooting. :/

and the rest were out over 6 months ago and I have either beaten them, or don't own them (eternal sonata).

So... uh... 3 games in the last 6 months....

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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="Sully28"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]LBP
:)
kansasdude2009

Also wipeout HD

Both were super nice breath of fresh air.


Well he apparently hates racing games... and he doesnt have a ps3... and his getting sick of shooters for some ungodly reason...
what GENRE ARE you looking for? and ill tell u a good game .

Action/Adventure and Platforming with absolutely no shooting... within the last year.

Racing games are fun... but I have Burnout Revenge, and I didn't want to spend the money on Paridise... :/

The only think I can think of is LBP... which I want... but I have to buy a PS3 first.


Well if u want action/adventure and platforming games get a dam ps3... ratchet and clank , uncharted (shooter but still adventure) , LBP , Spiderman web of shadows , sonic unleashed , starwars force unleashed , heavenly sword , legend of spyro (even though its REALLY bad lol) Assassins creed , Prince of persia (NEXT MONTH) , TOmb Raider , Ninja Gaiden , LEgo Batman

Frankly your being lazy looking. i can find u heaps (some of them ^ ^ are on xbox too)

Games on the XBox:
Banjo , Crash bandicoot , Dead rising

Wii :
Super smash bros , Mario galaxy....
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#43 foxhound_fox
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Then play some of the other fantastic games out there...

Assassin's Creed
Braid
Castle Crashers
Condemned: Criminal Origins (first person survival horror/beat-em up, focus is on melee combat)
Dead Rising
Forza Motorsport 2
Kameo: Elements of Power
Mass Effect
Mega Man 9
Mirror's Edge
N+
Skate

If you actually look hard enough, there is more than just shooters.
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#44 ragek1ll589
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I am far from tired of them. I prefer having a wide variety to choose from.
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#45 gearsgamer69
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Cheer up man games like, Elder Scrolls V: Empire and Dragon Age: Origins, Sacred 2: Fallen Angel are on the way, true RPG's and hack slashing fun til' your hearts content.
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agreed, once I beat R2 i went back to LBP immediately
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I don't want to discredit the games that both of you just listed, but most of them are either

A) Over a year old and I own and have beaten them already, or

B) They can be beaten in less than 10 hours (Braid, World of Goo, Castle Crashers, N+), or

C) They are on the PS3 and are incredibly generic or terrible TBQH (minus LBP) :|

Listen, I know the games are THERE, but there are so few of them, it's rediculous. And what there is, little of it can stand to the development of these Shooters.

Let's take Foxhoud Fox's list:

Assassin's Creed: Linear, repetative, and generic. The ONLY innovation was the climbing.
Braid: Excelent title, but has little to no replay value and can be beaten in under 10 hours.
Castle Crashers: Can be beaten in under 10 hours and is incredibly generic.
Condemned: Loved this game, I can not fault this one (is it because it has shooter elements in it :o)
Dead Rising: Interesting concept, but the gameplay was under-developed.
Forza Motorsport 2: Never owned.
Kameo: Elements of Power: The first game I bought for my 360. GENERIC.
Mass Effect: Excelent title, but it has frame-rate problems. Other than that... great game.
Mega Man 9: HARD GAME! Can't beat it.... :P
Mirror's Edge: Can't Wait to buy!
N+: Never owned
Skate: lol?

Prince of Persia and Mirror's Edge (though there is shooting :o) I am looking forward to, but honestly, those lists are small for being a culmination of over a year.

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#49 SOedipus
Member since 2006 • 15069 Posts

I don't want to discredit the games that both of you just listed, but most of them are either

A) Over a year old and I own and have beaten them already, or

B) They can be beaten in less than 10 hours (Braid, World of Goo, Castle Crashers, N+), or

C) They are on the PS3 and are incredibly generic or terrible TBQH (minus LBP) :|

Listen, I know the games are THERE, but there are so few of them, it's rediculous. And what there is, little of it can stand to the development of these Shooters.

Let's take Foxhoud Fox's list:

Assassin's Creed: Linear, repetative, and generic. The ONLY innovation was the climbing.
Braid: Excelent title, but has little to no replay value and can be beaten in under 10 hours.
Castle Crashers: Can be beaten in under 10 hours and is incredibly generic.
Condemned: Loved this game, I can not fault this one (is it because it has shooter elements in it :o)
Dead Rising: Interesting concept, but the gameplay was under-developed.
Forza Motorsport 2: Never owned.
Kameo: Elements of Power: The first game I bought for my 360. GENERIC.
Mass Effect: Excelent title, but it has frame-rate problems. Other than that... great game.
Mega Man 9: HARD GAME! Can't beat it.... :P
Mirror's Edge: Can't Wait to buy!
N+: Never owned
Skate: lol?

Prince of Persia and Mirror's Edge (though there is shooting :o) I am looking forward to, but honestly, those lists are small for being a culmination of over a year.

kansasdude2009

I agree with everything except for Dead Rising...I love that game.

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#50 jg4xchamp
Member since 2006 • 64057 Posts

I could care less about the genre...i just want good games...

just so happens alot of the good games are shooters this gen...plus i like shooters