I DARE anyone to DISPUTE the FACT that 360 is the KING of RPG's this gen.

NOw to FF13 features

- Watch into videos

- Play some linear battles to get in the battle system

- Watch FMV

- Visit town, talk to some NPC's

- Buy stuff from a shop

- Go out of town

- Watch more FMV

- Do battles

- Watch FMV

- Upgrade charatcers, maybe summons too

- Do more battles, do more upgrading, more buy/sell from shops, more FMV watching

- As the game comes to finish, start exploring for secrets, best weapons etc

- Use them to kill the final and optional bosses

So, linear stuff, some tiny exploration in the linear small reas, much FMV wathcing, MUCH time spent in tedious confined battles, maybe a mini game or two to break the usual JRPG monotony

That is NOT my idea of next gen RPG gaming, sorry, that is the FF7 recepie copied again, and again, and then some more

Fable 2 is the future

Are you sure you don't work for a company involved with this game? If this game flops there is a good chance you will be institutionalised :)tenaka2

Hahaha, Fable 1 got 53 AAA reviews, and when Fable 2 comes will be a JOKE comparing, Fable 2 is 10x bigger, 100x more innovative and feature full, and of course has some of the best next gen graphics around and a vast dynamic, full of lively NPC's world on top, and has huge free roaming spaces unlike the fenced Fable 1

To say this flops, is to say i do not liek the game, and to say i will not like THIS game, is to say Hitler was the most peace loving man on earth

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Are you sure you don't work for a company involved with this game? If this game flops there is a good chance you will be institutionalised :)saolin323

Hahaha, Fable 1 got 53 AAA reviews, and when Fable 2 comes will be a JOKE comparing, Fable 2 is 10x bigger, 100x more innovative and feature full, and of course has some of the best next gen graphics around and a vast dynamic, full of lively NPC's world on top, and has huge free roaming spaces unlike the fenced Fable 1

To say this flops, is to say i do not liek the game, and to say i will not like THIS game, is to say Hitler was the most peace loving man on earth

There is something wrong with you...... really...

ill agree 360 has the most rpgs this gen

best ones ive played have been Lost odysee, Oblivion, and mass effect.

and if final fantasy 13 follows in 12s footsteps you ps3 fanboys can keep it, i hated 12 it had one of them most forgettable storylines in the series, and i didnt like the way they tried to make it feel like a MMO, if i wanted to play a MMO id play WOW.

NOw to FF13 features

- Watch into videos

- Play some linear battles to get in the battle system

- Watch FMV

- Visit town, talk to some NPC's

- Buy stuff from a shop

- Go out of town

- Watch more FMV

- Do battles

- Watch FMV

- Upgrade charatcers, maybe summons too

- Do more battles, do more upgrading, more buy/sell from shops, more FMV watching

- As the game comes to finish, start exploring for secrets, best weapons etc

- Use them to kill the final and optional bosses

So, linear stuff, some tiny exploration in the linear small reas, much FMV wathcing, MUCH time spent in tedious confined battles, maybe a mini game or two to break the usual JRPG monotony

That is NOT my idea of next gen RPG gaming, sorry, that is the FF7 recepie copied again, and again, and then some more

Fable 2 is the future

saolin323

So how does fable play?

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

NOw to FF13 features

- Watch into videos

- Play some linear battles to get in the battle system

- Watch FMV

- Visit town, talk to some NPC's

- Buy stuff from a shop

- Go out of town

- Watch more FMV

- Do battles

- Watch FMV

- Upgrade charatcers, maybe summons too

- Do more battles, do more upgrading, more buy/sell from shops, more FMV watching

- As the game comes to finish, start exploring for secrets, best weapons etc

- Use them to kill the final and optional bosses

So, linear stuff, some tiny exploration in the linear small reas, much FMV wathcing, MUCH time spent in tedious confined battles, maybe a mini game or two to break the usual JRPG monotony

That is NOT my idea of next gen RPG gaming, sorry, that is the FF7 recepie copied again, and again, and then some more

Fable 2 is the future

exiledsnake

So how does fable play?

That would take 100 pages to describe, so just look the features above, and play out a scenario yourself

Of course that would be hard, since cities change, you change, NPC's reactions change, the world changes around you, and you can't be sure how it would react to anything you do, even your first hours of play could create a totally different world to play in

Your actions influence both the world and the story, in a big way, it is the main Fable 2 feature actually

Then you can have jobs, family, run shops, own castes, become king of castled cities, or even emperor of all of Albion

You can buy each house, shop etc and get quests from the biggest ones, rent them, run the shops, fill them with goods, kill enemies and bring back trophies for sale etc etc

And that just scrathces the simulation, NPC behaviours etc running behind the game, or the dynamic, free roaming, huge, full of secrets and STUNING epic places to see world

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]First off, there are no rumors whatsoever that FFXIII will go to 360. It is said to be a exclusive for PS3 and I suggest yoiu accept. And as long as 360 doesn't have FF, then it's not better than PS3's rpg list.saolin323

FF12 was pure mediocrity to me, and FF13 will be the same confined, linear JRPG game, with the static world, and brain dead NPC's and few things to do, nothng to see here, more of the same

Try Fable 2 for REAL next gen RPG gaming, this game alone makes all PS3 JRPG's look like aold gen joke TBH, i am sure will be nice to play, but comparing to playing Fable 2, will feel like you are in prison

You should know that people stopped taking your posts seriousily by now. First of, do you have a mighty magic ball that sees into the future? And second- ever since FFVII, the FF series has been AAA (excecpt XI). And Fable was a major dissapointment that was overhyped. Molyneaux said it would be revolutionary, but the biggest revolution was that, the FF franchise who continued to thrive in it's excellency. I suggest you go and read some reviews and go to metacritic and the come back here so you don't make a fool out of yourself.

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

NOw to FF13 features

- Watch into videos

- Play some linear battles to get in the battle system

- Watch FMV

- Visit town, talk to some NPC's

- Buy stuff from a shop

- Go out of town

- Watch more FMV

- Do battles

- Watch FMV

- Upgrade charatcers, maybe summons too

- Do more battles, do more upgrading, more buy/sell from shops, more FMV watching

- As the game comes to finish, start exploring for secrets, best weapons etc

- Use them to kill the final and optional bosses

So, linear stuff, some tiny exploration in the linear small reas, much FMV wathcing, MUCH time spent in tedious confined battles, maybe a mini game or two to break the usual JRPG monotony

That is NOT my idea of next gen RPG gaming, sorry, that is the FF7 recepie copied again, and again, and then some more

Fable 2 is the future

saolin323

So how does fable play?

That would take 100 pages to describe, so just look the features above, and play out a scenario yourself

Of course that would be hard, since cities change, you change, NPC's reactions change, the world changes around you, and you can't be sure how it would react to anything you do, even your first hours of play could create a totally different world to play in

Your actions influence both the world and the story, in a big way, it is the main Fable 2 feature actually

Then you can have jobs, family, run shops, own castes, become king of castled cities, or even emperor of all of Albion

You can buy each house, shop etc and get quests from the biggest ones, rent them, run the shops, fill them with goods, kill enemies and bring back trophies for sale etc etc

And that just scrathces the simulation, NPC behaviours etc running behind the game, or the dynamic, free roaming, huge, full of secrets and STUNING epic places to see world

Let me guess: Peter told you so!

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

exiledsnake

So how does fable play?

It consists of mindlessly button mashing your way through this huge linear world. With next to no strategy involved in the combat. And only 10 hours of gameplay. What an Epic RPG experience. But seriously most that crap said above can be easily said for all games. You just loop the same things you do but lots more new comes out of it than he says. WRPGers will lead you to believe that everything you do on them has some huge impact on the game. And it changes it in every way when really it doesn't it just changes the ending from good to bad. :| whoopie. We all love a bad ending.

Fable 2 will follow Fable 1's footsteps. 1 button combat, 10 hour long storylines, making women pregnant, and taking your dog for a walk. All lead to this epic RPG experience. It will be a master piece. :| no. But in all seriousness Fable 2 looks great I'll be buying it. As will I be buying FF13. Lost Odyssey is the only JRPG this gen thats actually been worth a damn. An Mass Effect was an OK WRPG. But this gen so far has been pretty crap when it comes to RPGs so far.

Ok, choose from the below, NONE has been done before in a RPG

saolin323

except Fable, apparently.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Ok, choose from the below, NONE has been done before in a RPG

Hewkii

except Fable, apparently.

Apparently not in Fable 1, only in Fable 2

Apparently not in Fable 1, only in Fable 2

saolin323

not according to these:

-Bowerstone returns for Fable 2.
-Just as in the first game same-sex marriage is possible.
Combat will be used via a one-button system.
-Hobbes will be making a return for Fable 2.
Demon Doors are returning for Fable 2
-The expression system is back for the main character

Looks at DS....Luigi_Vincetana

I was thinking the same *cradles DS Lite*

saolin is still going about Fable 2?DireToad

[QUOTE="DireToad"]saolin is still going about Fable 2?Jandurin

Check out the 53 AAA reviews Fable 1 got, thencome back and say Fable 2 will suck

hahahahaha, in your wildest dreams maybe

damn i hate those fanboys thoughts, 360 the king of rpgs huh the horror,truth is that the only good rpgs at the moment out is oblivion and lost odessey but thats it(they are both in 360 and one in ps3)

i wont count sh1ty games sonata and whatever.....

i am waiting for ffxiii /ffxiii versus/disgaea 3/white knight chronicles/suikoden vi/new star ocean/new persona. any person with the mind in its right side knows that ps3 is the console to get if you like rpgs,as everyone knows that if you want fps's 360 is the console to get....

why are you trying to prove that a cat is an elemphant?it isnt.also stop talking about final fantasys you are hurting yourself....

Square Enix is definately one of the dumber developers in terms of financial expansion. They choose to boycot another console because it doesnt sell well in "japan" which is fine, it's just that they could really increase their profits far beyond what they ever hoped for if they went multi console. Some day they will make it multiplat anyways, they used to be and were origianlly on Nintendo if you remember FF 1-3. Besides, if they ever developed for 360 they would be shocked at how much easier and quicker their title will get completed.

Not that it matters to me tho, i hate the FF series of craptastic games.

damn i hate those fanboys thoughts, 360 the king of rpgs huh the horror,truth is that the only good rpgs at the moment out is oblivion and lost odessey but thats it(they are both in 360 and one in ps3)

i wont count sh1ty games sonata and whatever.....

i am waiting for ffxiii /ffxiii versus/disgaea 3/white knight chronicles/suikoden vi/new star ocean/new persona. any person with the mind in its right side knows that ps3 is the console to get if you like rpgs,as everyone knows that if you want fps's 360 is the console to get....

why are you trying to prove that a cat is an elemphant?it isnt.also stop talking about final fantasys you are hurting yourself....

skanjos

By the games you have there, PS3 is ONLY good for JRPG gamers, what if someone like WRPG's and their free roaming dynamic and interactive NEXT GEN worlds FAR MORE ? PS3 has nothing on that, sorry, BUT 360 does cover JRPG's in a huge way, and sooner

A loose-loose situation for PS3, it has no WRPG's, the only REAL NEXT GEN RPG's and worlds IMO, and its JRPG's are coming far later and are less, plus Lost odyssey proved Mistwakler games are stunning

[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

I did a *quick* Gamespot search for "360 RPG" and "PC RPG," and, counting only A-AAA's from 2006+, my search yielded this:

360

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (X360)

Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords (X360) (Is this even an RPG?)

Mass Effect (X360)

Eternal Sonata (X360)

Lost Odyssey (X360)

Enchanted Arms (X360)

Two Worlds (X360)

PC

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PC

World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (PC)

Neverwinter Nights 2 (PC)

Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer (PC)

Guild Wars Factions (PC)

Guild Wars: Eye of the North (PC)

The Witcher (PC)

SpellForce 2: Shadow Wars (PC)

Pirates of the Burning Sea (PC)

Sacred (PC)

Gothic 3 (PC)

Titan Quest (PC)

Tabula Rasa (PC)

Two Worlds (PC)

Hellgate: London (PC)

I'm not even about to delve into the masses of upcoming games because there are so damn many of them. As for games that we can actually play, the PC has a much beefier list.

saolin323

Most of those pc RPG's are MMO craps, Hellgate is pathetic, most of those are garbages too

Witcher looks like a 5 years old flat game too, PC just has no next gen visuals in its RPG's at all, only when it gets a 360 title looks good

And where is Blue Dragon on 360 ?

You obviously haven't played any of them. The Witcher spanks your Fable 1 into oblivion, not to mention, the PC offers titles, even if they aren't your bag. That's the point. WoW alone destroys any sort of RPG experience on 360, hands down, nothing even comparable.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Are you sure you don't work for a company involved with this game? If this game flops there is a good chance you will be institutionalised :)saolin323

Hahaha, Fable 1 got 53 AAA reviews, and when Fable 2 comes will be a JOKE comparing, Fable 2 is 10x bigger, 100x more innovative and feature full, and of course has some of the best next gen graphics around and a vast dynamic, full of lively NPC's world on top, and has huge free roaming spaces unlike the fenced Fable 1

To say this flops, is to say i do not liek the game, and to say i will not like THIS game, is to say Hitler was the most peace loving man on earth

When did you play Fable 2? Did you just get your copy in the mail? Ohh...That's right

You obviously haven't played any of them. The Witcher spanks your Fable 1 into oblivion, not to mention, the PC offers titles, even if they aren't your bag. That's the point. WoW alone destroys any sort of RPG experience on 360, hands down, nothing even comparable.mismajor99

I have met many zombie gamers of WOW so far, trust me, it is not a pretty sight, that game should be forbidden in fact IMO

As for "destorying anything on 360", i have had enough damage control from PS3 fanboys about how the linear old gen FF13 destorys all 360 games etc

Trust me, WOW can't touch Fable 2 in the slightest bit

I wouldn't say this gen yet. As of right now they are clearly king. And it seems like even by the end of 2008 it'll still be king. But nobody knows about 2009 and beyond.Senor_Kami

Mass Effect 2-3, Jade Empire 2, Dungeon Hero, Too Human 2-3 etc will see to it i think, but Fable 2 is enough for 360 to be RPG king IMO, there is nothing that could EVER touch that game, in any other system

Quality>Quantity my friend. Yah 360 looks to have alot of RPG's this gen but i dont see more then 4 of those scoring over 8.5. Plus i can see a couple of multiplat games & unoffical games on your list:|Blitz_Nemesis

So far Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect are TOP quality, some of the best RPG's ever TBH

I can't understand what you suggest really

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

damn i hate those fanboys thoughts, 360 the king of rpgs huh the horror,truth is that the only good rpgs at the moment out is oblivion and lost odessey but thats it(they are both in 360 and one in ps3)

i wont count sh1ty games sonata and whatever.....

i am waiting for ffxiii /ffxiii versus/disgaea 3/white knight chronicles/suikoden vi/new star ocean/new persona. any person with the mind in its right side knows that ps3 is the console to get if you like rpgs,as everyone knows that if you want fps's 360 is the console to get....

why are you trying to prove that a cat is an elemphant?it isnt.also stop talking about final fantasys you are hurting yourself....

saolin323

By the games you have there, PS3 is ONLY good for JRPG gamers, what if someone like WRPG's and their free roaming dynamic and interactive NEXT GEN worlds FAR MORE ? PS3 has nothing on that, sorry, BUT 360 does cover JRPG's in a huge way, and sooner

A loose-loose situation for PS3, it has no WRPG's, the only REAL NEXT GEN RPG's and worlds IMO, and its JRPG's are coming far later and are less, plus Lost odyssey proved Mistwakler games are stunning

"what if someone likes wrpgs?"there is oblivion,you want interactive worlds i say one word PERSONA (you wont even know what it is but whatever).also i would love you to tell me how 360 cover the jrpgs in a huge way cause every jrpg the 360 has sucks or doesnt compare with the ps3 huge titles coming....

....also only american xbox360 fanboys believe that wrpgs are the best so whatever.for those living outside of america the only good exclusive rpg 360 has is lost odessey (and thats mediocre in par with even the ps2 rpgs)

i guess its pointless to post here anymore your posts shout Fanboy Warning!!!!!!you even hype fable 2 without seeing anything from the game .i wish it will be a good game but i had high hopes for the first and it sucked so i dont believe the 2nd will be any better

[QUOTE="Blitz_Nemesis"]Quality>Quantity my friend. Yah 360 looks to have alot of RPG's this gen but i dont see more then 4 of those scoring over 8.5. Plus i can see a couple of multiplat games & unoffical games on your list:|saolin323

So far Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect are TOP quality, some of the best RPG's ever TBH

I can't understand what you suggest really

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Dahaka-UK

So how does fable play?

It consists of mindlessly button mashing your way through this huge linear world. With next to no strategy involved in the combat. And only 10 hours of gameplay. What an Epic RPG experience. But seriously most that crap said above can be easily said for all games. You just loop the same things you do but lots more new comes out of it than he says. WRPGers will lead you to believe that everything you do on them has some huge impact on the game. And it changes it in every way when really it doesn't it just changes the ending from good to bad. :| whoopie. We all love a bad ending.

Fable 2 will follow Fable 1's footsteps. 1 button combat, 10 hour long storylines, making women pregnant, and taking your dog for a walk. All lead to this epic RPG experience. It will be a master piece. :| no. But in all seriousness Fable 2 looks great I'll be buying it. As will I be buying FF13. Lost Odyssey is the only JRPG this gen thats actually been worth a damn. An Mass Effect was an OK WRPG. But this gen so far has been pretty crap when it comes to RPGs so far.

ah. an unbiased answer.

[QUOTE="Blitz_Nemesis"]Quality>Quantity my friend. Yah 360 looks to have alot of RPG's this gen but i dont see more then 4 of those scoring over 8.5. Plus i can see a couple of multiplat games & unoffical games on your list:|saolin323

So far Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect are TOP quality, some of the best RPG's ever TBH

I can't understand what you suggest really

hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]You obviously haven't played any of them. The Witcher spanks your Fable 1 into oblivion, not to mention, the PC offers titles, even if they aren't your bag. That's the point. WoW alone destroys any sort of RPG experience on 360, hands down, nothing even comparable.saolin323

I have met many zombie gamers of WOW so far, trust me, it is not a pretty sight, that game should be forbidden in fact IMO

As for "destorying anything on 360", i have had enough damage control from PS3 fanboys about how the linear old gen FF13 destorys all 360 games etc

Trust me, WOW can't touch Fable 2 in the slightest bit

Zombie? Because a game is that good, now it doesn't count? If people are all drooling over Fable 2 and over 10 million people play it and pay for it on a monthly basis, that's ok? Problem is, Fable 2 will NEVER reach that sort of level, WoW is far and above any other RPG out there at this time, your excuses are tiring.

No, Im sure Fable with be great... for the 5 hours it takes to finish it.

What I'm suggesting is that you see a professional.

I suggest you see a proffesional, since Fable LC was 25+ hours

25 hours? That's it! SELF-OWNAGE APPROVED.

Most of those pc RPG's are MMO craps, Hellgate is pathetic, most of those are garbages too

Witcher looks like a 5 years old flat game too, PC just has no next gen visuals in its RPG's at all, only when it gets a 360 title looks good

And where is Blue Dragon on 360 ?

saolin323

First off, most of those *aren't* MMO's, so I guess you fail at math.

Secondly, among those MMO "craps" as you put it, we have one AAA, a couple AAs and a few As, so I guess you fail at paying attention.

Thirdly, QQ about the graphics son. RPGs are about the experience, not teh pritty colerz.

Fourthly, considering how much you hype Fable 2's graphics, you don't really have much place critisizing the Witcher in that regard.

Fifthly, Blue Dragon isn't on there because I don't pad my lists with sub-A tripe to make them look bigger. A through AAA only.

Lastly, nine of those PC titles are AA and above, whereas the 360 has... four. Three if you don't count Puzzle Quest. So no, most of those are not "garbages," but thanks for playing.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Most of those pc RPG's are MMO craps, Hellgate is pathetic, most of those are garbages too

Witcher looks like a 5 years old flat game too, PC just has no next gen visuals in its RPG's at all, only when it gets a 360 title looks good

And where is Blue Dragon on 360 ?

t3hTwinky

First off, most of those *aren't* MMO's, so I guess you fail at math.

Secondly, among those MMO "craps" as you put it, we have one AAA, a couple AAs and a few As, so I guess you fail at paying attention.

Thirdly, QQ about the graphics son. RPGs are about the experience, not teh pritty colerz.

Fourthly, considering how much you hype Fable 2's graphics, you don't really have much place critisizing the Witcher in that regard.

Fifthly, Blue Dragon isn't on there because I don't pad my lists with sub-A tripe to make them look bigger. A through AAA only.

Lastly, nine of those PC titles are AA and above, whereas the 360 has... four. Three if you don't count Puzzle Quest. So no, most of those are not "garbages," but thanks for playing.

Witcher graphics are DX8 graphics, flat and lit like garbage, Fable 2 graphics use Crysis lighting effects, real 3D trees, huge spaces, real 3D forests and real next gen shadows/lighing, not last gen garbages liek Witcher, sorry but you do not have the slightest clue of what you are talking about

Fable 2 is exactly 3 generations ahead in effects from Witcher graphics, that has no next gen shaders, lighting, foliage etc

I know Hellgate is not MMO, but it is one of the worst games i have ever pkayed TBH

hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?exiledsnake

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

there is one RPG for the 360 that will revolutionalize rpgs. That game is infinite undiscovery.kaangonultas

Fable 2 does liek a million things more than any game, includine IU IMO.

What IU might reinvent is the action system in JRPG's, definatly i do not see a huge interactive, dynamic world, and frankly the graphics are nothing like Fable 2 ones

pc owns wins agin, snap lol off corse the best rpg games are made on pc. In fact pc invented rpg's
blackdreamhunk

But xbox 1 and 360 invented FUN in RPG's, which is more important than the ****c hardcore very serious scheme of RPG's

And Fable 2 world will have no equal, everything looks ordinary to OVERLY ordinary comparing IMO

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?saolin323

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

Lol if you say FF12 is garbage, then Lost oddessy shouldnt even been created.

It got 9.0 review scores and Lost Oddessy got 8.5.

Don't say Final Fantasy 12 is crap cause that was the best rpg for me.