I DARE anyone to DISPUTE the FACT that 360 is the KING of RPG's this gen.

I think we all know this is a FACT. I will list a few for those in denial.

Mass Effect 1

Lost Odyssey 1-2-3 or not sure how many. But sequals are already planned.

Infinite Underdiscovery

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Very very likely Link provided for doubters.

http://www.xbox360rally.com/is-the-witcher-360-bound/

And a VERY HIGH possiblility of FF13 making a multiplat debut on 360. If rumars proove true. And after all it's being developed on a multiplat graphic engine.

:D

Eddie_Munster08

there i took out all the titles that were not multiplat or going to end up being multiplat. and then took out the ones not worth playing. what a list... for rpg's this gen you need a DS.

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[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?Lebron181

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

Lol if you say FF12 is garbage, then Lost oddessy shouldnt even been created.

It got 9.0 review scores and Lost Oddessy got 8.5.

Don't say Final Fantasy 12 is crap cause that was the best rpg for me.

FF12 is PURE GARBAGE, and one of the worst games i have ever played TBH

LO is like FF7-8-9-10, the REAL amazing FF titles

Again reviews mean nothing, FF12 would get 9/10 even if it was like pac-man, the name is worth 2+ points out of 10

FF12 is THE WORST RPG i have ever played, the fact that battles did .. .themselves .. .was a bad joke, i still cry for my wasted money on that crap

REAL FF fans like me, just hated FF12, it is totally different and totally GARNAGE comparing to the amazing older ones, in every way

[QUOTE="Lebron181"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?saolin323

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

Lol if you say FF12 is garbage, then Lost oddessy shouldnt even been created.

It got 9.0 review scores and Lost Oddessy got 8.5.

Don't say Final Fantasy 12 is crap cause that was the best rpg for me.

FF12 is PURE GARBAGE, and one of the worst games i have ever played TBH

LO is like FF7-8-9-10, the REAL amazing FF titles

Again reviews mean nothing, FF12 would get 9/10 even if it was like pac-man, the name is worth 2+ points out of 10

FF12 is THE WORST RPG i have ever played, the fact that battles did .. .themselves .. .was a bad joke, i still cry for my wasted money on that crap

REAL FF fans like me, just hated FF12, it is totally different and totally GARNAGE comparing to the amazing older ones, in every way

Most of those titles in the list are action games with RPG elements, for example Oblivion, Too Human, Fallout 3 *shudder*.

And oh, The Witcher for 360? I'd buy it if I didn't think the PC demo was garbage. Seriously, it was that bad. Eurgh.

[QUOTE="Lebron181"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?saolin323

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

Lol if you say FF12 is garbage, then Lost oddessy shouldnt even been created.

It got 9.0 review scores and Lost Oddessy got 8.5.

Don't say Final Fantasy 12 is crap cause that was the best rpg for me.

FF12 is PURE GARBAGE, and one of the worst games i have ever played TBH

LO is like FF7-8-9-10, the REAL amazing FF titles

Again reviews mean nothing, FF12 would get 9/10 even if it was like pac-man, the name is worth 2+ points out of 10

FF12 is THE WORST RPG i have ever played, the fact that battles did .. .themselves .. .was a bad joke, i still cry for my wasted money on that crap

REAL FF fans like me, just hated FF12, it is totally different and totally GARNAGE comparing to the amazing older ones, in every way

LOL FFX12 garbage??? Yeah sure oh and maybe while you are there can you tell us santa is real?
FF 7-10 were good at their time but LO can't even compare with it. It didn't even get a good score. Oh wait thats right you don't care about GS, or any other scores when you are trying to proof your point.

Saying stuff like FX12 suck just shows that you are stuck and dont know what you are talking about. It felt newier and different from other FF12, but doesnt make it the worst FF Lol or RPG ahahahahah :lol: Again I have played all the FFX besides the one on the gameboys, and other handheld. Guess what the only flaw i found in it besides a little other small flaws where the random chest %, and the bad story.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Lebron181"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?Ibacai

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

Lol if you say FF12 is garbage, then Lost oddessy shouldnt even been created.

It got 9.0 review scores and Lost Oddessy got 8.5.

Don't say Final Fantasy 12 is crap cause that was the best rpg for me.

FF12 is PURE GARBAGE, and one of the worst games i have ever played TBH

LO is like FF7-8-9-10, the REAL amazing FF titles

Again reviews mean nothing, FF12 would get 9/10 even if it was like pac-man, the name is worth 2+ points out of 10

FF12 is THE WORST RPG i have ever played, the fact that battles did .. .themselves .. .was a bad joke, i still cry for my wasted money on that crap

REAL FF fans like me, just hated FF12, it is totally different and totally GARNAGE comparing to the amazing older ones, in every way

The fact that i loved FF7-8-9-10 perhaps ? And have played them to death ???

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]there is one RPG for the 360 that will revolutionalize rpgs. That game is infinite undiscovery.saolin323

Fable 2 does liek a million things more than any game, includine IU IMO.

What IU might reinvent is the action system in JRPG's, definatly i do not see a huge interactive, dynamic world, and frankly the graphics are nothing like Fable 2 ones

saolin, i think i speak for all the lemming who like fable when i say BRANCH OUT!There ARE OTHER OUT RPGS OUT THERE

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Lebron181"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?saolin323

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

Lol if you say FF12 is garbage, then Lost oddessy shouldnt even been created.

It got 9.0 review scores and Lost Oddessy got 8.5.

Don't say Final Fantasy 12 is crap cause that was the best rpg for me.

FF12 is PURE GARBAGE, and one of the worst games i have ever played TBH

LO is like FF7-8-9-10, the REAL amazing FF titles

Again reviews mean nothing, FF12 would get 9/10 even if it was like pac-man, the name is worth 2+ points out of 10

FF12 is THE WORST RPG i have ever played, the fact that battles did .. .themselves .. .was a bad joke, i still cry for my wasted money on that crap

REAL FF fans like me, just hated FF12, it is totally different and totally GARNAGE comparing to the amazing older ones, in every way

The fact that i loved FF7-8-9-10 perhaps ? And have played them to death ???

So the guy that also loved FFX7-10 and also FF12 isn't a die hard fan?????? Sure dude your arguement is very bad and you are trying to drink a lake using a straw. Its impossible.

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]hmmm, you bash FF. then you praise lost odyssey to be a top tier RPG? biased much?saolin323

Hmmm, i do not bash FF, where did you get that ? FF is amazing in FF7-8-9-10, i bash the GARBAGE that FF12 was ONLY, so Lost Odyssey that is like older FF games is my thing, which only makes sense, it is you that make no sense

because you bashed ffxiii a few pages back. maybe you added an extra "i" or something. i agree that ffxii was really garbage for a final fantasy but the gameplay was the saving grace for me.

Looks at DS....Luigi_Vincetana

I don't think it count, but it does have a great RPG lineup.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"] What makes you a real FF fan over the guy that does like FFXII?saolin323

Your "fact" has been disputed.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Ibacai"] What makes you a real FF fan over the guy that does like FFXII?Ibacai

Actually yes, he did answer your question perfectly well. You don't have to like all the Final Fantasys to be a Final Fantasy fan. Because there not all of the same quality. FF12 for instance was a big step in the wrong direction for me but I liked the others before it. (except for FF11). I am an FF fan. Not a fanboy though.

Your "fact" has been disputed.

MetroidPrimePwn

PC gets it's one measly WRPG every so many years. While the witcher is good. One game doesn't make PC the king of RPGs.

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Your "fact" has been disputed.

Dahaka-UK

PC gets it's one measly WRPG every so many years. While the witcher is good. One game doesn't make PC the king of RPGs.

It crushes every RPG that is on the 360 so far, and since you can't play RPGs that aren't out yet, those don't matter yet. Although it WILL be the king of RPGs is things go the way they seem to be going, it isn't there yet.

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

Your "fact" has been disputed.

MetroidPrimePwn

PC gets it's one measly WRPG every so many years. While the witcher is good. One game doesn't make PC the king of RPGs.

It crushes every RPG that is on the 360 so far, and since you can't play RPGs that aren't out yet, those don't matter yet. Although it WILL be the king of RPGs is things go the way they seem to be going, it isn't there yet.

Witcher and ME on the PC will trump current 360 RPG's overall.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"][QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

Your "fact" has been disputed.

bobaban

PC gets it's one measly WRPG every so many years. While the witcher is good. One game doesn't make PC the king of RPGs.

It crushes every RPG that is on the 360 so far, and since you can't play RPGs that aren't out yet, those don't matter yet. Although it WILL be the king of RPGs is things go the way they seem to be going, it isn't there yet.

Witcher and ME on the PC will trump current 360 RPG's overall.

Witcher is a last gen title, and Mass Effect is a 360 game first, i FAIL to see how pc is better, when i get Fable 2, Lost oDyssey, Cry On, Too Human, Infinite Undisocovery etc on my 360

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Ibacai"] What makes you a real FF fan over the guy that does like FFXII?Dahaka-UK

Actually yes, he did answer your question perfectly well. You don't have to like all the Final Fantasys to be a Final Fantasy fan. Because there not all of the same quality. FF12 for instance was a big step in the wrong direction for me but I liked the others before it. (except for FF11). I am an FF fan. Not a fanboy though.

Witcher is a last gen title

saolin323

I don't see how, or what it has to do with the claim.

I don't care to read any of the 350+ posts, so sorry if this is a repeat.

Most of those are western RPGs, which Xbox dominated in last gen as well. PS3 will have the Eastern RPGS for sure, and the Wii will have most of the quirky ones, like Opoona.

Your "fact" has been disputed.

MetroidPrimePwn

I concur wholeheartedly.

Witcher graphics are DX8 graphics, flat and lit like garbage, Fable 2 graphics use Crysis lighting effects, real 3D trees, huge spaces, real 3D forests and real next gen shadows/lighing, not last gen garbages liek Witcher, sorry but you do not have the slightest clue of what you are talking about

Fable 2 is exactly 3 generations ahead in effects from Witcher graphics, that has no next gen shaders, lighting, foliage etc

I know Hellgate is not MMO, but it is one of the worst games i have ever pkayed TBH

saolin323

So, basically, Fable 2 has teh pritty colerz?

And of course, *I* have no idea what I'm talking about, says the man who "knows" Fable 2 looks better than Crysis. :lol: The Witcher looks perfectly fine, especially for being 'exactly' 3 generations behind.:roll:

Besides, thats all beside the point: the PC has a larger, better lineup. Sorry, your precious Fable 2 and its REVOLOOSHUNARY EVERYTHING doesn't make up for it.

I guess you do not have the slightest clue of what you are talking about. :(

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Witcher is a last gen title

Hewkii

I don't see how, or what it has to do with the claim.

I do not count last gen games, because then i would have to count in diablo, BG2 etc for pc, but those are NOT what i want to play this gen, i think Oblvion set a standard, Witcher looks generations behind even the old gen now Oblivion

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Witcher is a last gen title

saolin323

I don't see how, or what it has to do with the claim.

I do not count last gen games, because then i would have to count in diablo, BG2 etc for pc, but those are NOT what i want to play this gen, i think Oblvion set a standard, Witcher looks generations behind even the old gen now Oblivion

so you skip generations when a new game is released........oblivion old gen sigh.....according to you how many generations are there in gaming 13443486263378million?

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Witcher is a last gen title

skanjos

I don't see how, or what it has to do with the claim.

I do not count last gen games, because then i would have to count in diablo, BG2 etc for pc, but those are NOT what i want to play this gen, i think Oblvion set a standard, Witcher looks generations behind even the old gen now Oblivion

so you skip generations when a new game is released........oblivion old gen sigh.....according to you how many generations are there in gaming 13443486263378million?

Oblivion is old gen now, just get over it, ANYONE can see that, it does not even has proper tree shadows, they are fake, same for buildings

Fable 2 will not load to get in a house you know, has REAL shadows from each tree leaf, that move as the sun does, and has light beams filtered through trees that again move as the sun does, something ONLY Crysis does so far, no other game

Then its trees are real lit, with proper shadows on them, making them absolutly look GENERATIONS ahead of Oblivion fake lit and shadowed trees

But why the hell do you think a 1st gen 360 game would be anything important in visuals, that was a port from PC on top ?

the Witcher, for the engine they used looks good.

Huxley Online is NOT a RPG, it is a MMOFPS

Oblivion is old gen now, just get over it, ANYONE can see that,

saolin323

define generation, first off.

[QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"]

Hmm let's see...

RPG's worth mentioning..

Oblivion (multiplat), Mass Effect (360), Fallout 3 (multiplat) FFXIII (PS3).

I think it's too early to say which is king.. Also I would mention Fable 2, but eh it has to prove itself. EDIT: I'm also a little skeptical on White Knight Story for PS3. I hope it's good though, I loved Dark Cloud 1+2.

Every RPG you mentioned are or will be pretty subpar compared to the ones I mentioned.

saolin323

Fable 1 scored BETTER than Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect here, which are two of the best RPG games ever, so why ON EARTH does Fable 2 have to prove itself ? And FF13 does not ?

Fable 1 got 53 AAA reviews too

Dude Fable 1 wasn't that good. Esspecially not as good as it was hyped up to be.

I also think FFXIII has to prove itself but I didn't mentioned that due to how critics and fans drooled over 12.

Fable got a better score than Lost Odyssey? Well duh, besides I didn't even mention Lost Odyssey lol.

Mass Effect? Dude come on, you know if GS wasn't doing the .5 point scoring system ME would score higher than Fables measley 8.6

Oh and avg scores make more since than a single score. Mass Effects avg KILLS Fables, even FFXII's avg kills Fables. Fable 1 WASN'T that great. Good yes! But not AAA quality.

Though I do hope with Fable 2, Peter gets to do alort more of what he couldn't do with Fable 1.

I'm a fan of his work, and well HE TOO was dissapointed with Fable 1, he had many ambitions for the game, though it was still great Fable 1 wasn't all it could have been.

Accept it.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Oblivion is old gen now, just get over it, ANYONE can see that,

Hewkii

define generation, first off.

Oblivion is old O_o.

Guess thats why there is a current-gen console game that's larger (keyword current gen since Morrowind kills Oblivion in size).

Oh wait.....

Oblivion still is impressive even today.

Oblivion is old gen now, just get over it, ANYONE can see that, it does not even has proper tree shadows, they are fake, same for buildings

Fable 2 will not load to get in a house you know, has REAL shadows from each tree leaf, that move as the sun does, and has light beams filtered through trees that again move as the sun does, something ONLY Crysis does so far, no other game

Then its trees are real lit, with proper shadows on them, making them absolutly look GENERATIONS ahead of Oblivion fake lit and shadowed trees

But why the hell do you think a 1st gen 360 game would be anything important in visuals, that was a port from PC on top ?

saolin323

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Witcher is a last gen title

saolin323

I don't see how, or what it has to do with the claim.

I do not count last gen games, because then i would have to count in diablo, BG2 etc for pc, but those are NOT what i want to play this gen, i think Oblvion set a standard, Witcher looks generations behind even the old gen now Oblivion

FALLOUT 3

On 360 will be AMAZING

FALLOUT 3

On 360 will be AMAZING

Eddie_Munster08

I hope you do not think the PS3 and PC version won't be up to par.

Since technically the order of superiority based on how well each systems ran Oblivion went from PC>PS3>360.

Though keep in mind I'm not talking about d/l content, in that since it's PC>360>PS3. Aside from Shivering Isles PS3 has no d/l content for Oblivion.

So anyways, Fallout 3 on PC, PS3 AND 360 will be amazing. Why? Because Bethesda is just that badass.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Witcher is a last gen title

RobbieH1234

I don't see how, or what it has to do with the claim.

I do not count last gen games, because then i would have to count in diablo, BG2 etc for pc, but those are NOT what i want to play this gen, i think Oblvion set a standard, Witcher looks generations behind even the old gen now Oblivion

RPG Difficulty.

A very, very low standard for RPG Difficulty...

half the games you listed suck.mjk_1

Plus more than half can be played on PC or PS3.