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#52 lagreendown
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[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

People who play Rock Band just want a good rhythm-based game to enjoy, and it does require at least some sort of skill with timing. None of them are pretending they are professionals, they know it's a game.

Wii Fit on the other hand has a bunch of casual noobs who think they are really getting fit on this thing. They are the ones who need to get a head check.

nintendo-4life

:| :| :| :|

you think casuals don't think rock band doesn't make them think they are becoming better rockers? :|

and FYI, Wii Fit has some yoga techniques, which will surely bring fitness into their body, i hope you know people actually lost weight by practicing Wii sports correctly daily, so what would you think of Wii fit?.

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I bet the Yoga portion is some tiny minigame or two.

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can you even call it that? i mean, yoga isnt really a game to begin with. im not sure how you can make it into a minigame, unless they add some kind of points system with high scores and leaderboards. but still, i wouldnt even consider a short yoga session a game at all

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Thread of the month. It's amazing how hypocritical fanboys can be.
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I dont care what any of you think, Wiifit WILL SELL MORE CONSOLES. Even my mom thinks the wii is {cool}
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]oh really? are you saying yoga doesn't do anything to fitness? :|-TheSecondSign-

how deep is the Yoga system in Wii Fit? Xbox1 had a Yoga game already (it was a 100% Yoga dedicated game) Should I praise that game for making women all over the country fit? If a game that's dedicated to Yoga couldn't induce a country-wide weight loss phenomenon, no way will Wii Fit. I bet the Yoga portion is some tiny minigame or two.

Yoga does make a person more limber, and increase the person's awareness of their own body, but Wii Fit is almost no different from a cheap late-night informercial product. It promises results using the lowest intensity (ie waste of time) possible, and this does not really lead to results. The reason why most of the country is unfit is because most of the country fall for these quick schemes. Only a small percentage of the people you see on the street who you'd classify as realy "fit" knew that those results did not come from a piece of plastic or junky equipment you buy in four easy payments of $12.99. It came through years of dedicated hard work and knowledge. Wii Sport or Wii Fit and even that Xbox 1 game, and even DDR, are not really the way to go. I know someone will say "DDR makes you hella tired!" One thing wrong with DDR used as exercise is you need to keep the heartrate at a continuous 15-20 minute stretch to see real fat-burning benefits (which are still small at this point) DDR has so many pauses and time to switch songs and settings that the heartrate never reaches the necessary pitch. That, and the person would need to play DDR quite often that he'll just say to himself, "Why not just go to the GYM and get 100% maximum fat-burning instead of this video game that gives only 60%?"

Use this hardcore rule: to burn off a decadent cookie you'd have to run like a madman (hair flopping around, drenched in sweat) around a track for 15-20 minutes. All of that painful work to burn off a cookie. Now, tell me, where in Wii Sports or Wii Fit will you even approach that level of intensity -- and this is just for a cookie! Imagine an obese person needing to lose 20-30 pounds. If a cookie is 150 calories and a pound of fat is 3,500 calories, you can do the match and pretty much see that it will take forever to meet that goal if you use Wii Fit or Wii Sports.

The answer, I'm afriad, is ditch the Wii Fit and do it the right way, the natural way, the way even our ancestors knew. They did not need dumb modern-day contraptions and plastic toys to outrun and outperform us, they didnt even have shoes for chrissakes.

as i still haven't played the game yet, i surely cannot answer any of your questions right now, but there's one thing ssj_ken pointed out, Wii fit can be fun, real excercising cannot. The point of Wii fit is that it's still a game and can still be effective, i'm not saying it will make you look your gender stereotype, but at least it will get my muscles moving more than most games around.

WTH? :|

Are you kidding? Exercise can be fun. Have you ever actually tried an actual workout? Ever? And if you have, have you ever tried any SERIOUS alternatives?

:| The human body needs exercise. Our bodies are naturally inclined to begin enjoying excercise once you stay on a regiment for a long enough period of time, not to mention the benefits of increased blood flow and brain activity that come with working out. Have you EVER tried pushing yourself?

then why all the negativity around Wii fit if that's really the case?

i have tried actual workouts, also what are you trying to say about pushing myself, if you're talking about push ups or pushing myself in a wall then of course i have, i've also pulled myself from ledges (don't ask) but otherwise i really don't know what you're asking.

excercise can be refreshing once you get in to it, but fun? i don't think so, just look at the alternatives, dancing for instance is fun, but it's not a direct excercise, walking can be a bore sometimes without some distraction. what you said about enjoying excercise once you say on regiment can be true, i myself couldn't handle a long period of time excercise, and i believe that's the problem with all the fat people out there, it DOES take time to "get it" Wii Fit doesn't. and no if anyone is wondering i don't think Wii fit is the solution to my weight problem, but it's litrally a GAME about excercise, of course it's going to be fun.

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I dont care what any of you think, Wiifit WILL SELL MORE CONSOLES. Even my mom thinks the wii is {cool}lolkie_81
no please!!! don't turn this thread around!!!!

NO SALES PLEASE :cry:

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The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.
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Thread of the month. It's amazing how hypocritical fanboys can be.Miyomatic
yay someone thinks it's the thread of the month ^_^ :P
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The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.dracula_16
i already talked about the difficulty part in my OP.
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]oh really? are you saying yoga doesn't do anything to fitness? :|nintendo-4life

how deep is the Yoga system in Wii Fit? Xbox1 had a Yoga game already (it was a 100% Yoga dedicated game) Should I praise that game for making women all over the country fit? If a game that's dedicated to Yoga couldn't induce a country-wide weight loss phenomenon, no way will Wii Fit. I bet the Yoga portion is some tiny minigame or two.

Yoga does make a person more limber, and increase the person's awareness of their own body, but Wii Fit is almost no different from a cheap late-night informercial product. It promises results using the lowest intensity (ie waste of time) possible, and this does not really lead to results. The reason why most of the country is unfit is because most of the country fall for these quick schemes. Only a small percentage of the people you see on the street who you'd classify as realy "fit" knew that those results did not come from a piece of plastic or junky equipment you buy in four easy payments of $12.99. It came through years of dedicated hard work and knowledge. Wii Sport or Wii Fit and even that Xbox 1 game, and even DDR, are not really the way to go. I know someone will say "DDR makes you hella tired!" One thing wrong with DDR used as exercise is you need to keep the heartrate at a continuous 15-20 minute stretch to see real fat-burning benefits (which are still small at this point) DDR has so many pauses and time to switch songs and settings that the heartrate never reaches the necessary pitch. That, and the person would need to play DDR quite often that he'll just say to himself, "Why not just go to the GYM and get 100% maximum fat-burning instead of this video game that gives only 60%?"

Use this hardcore rule: to burn off a decadent cookie you'd have to run like a madman (hair flopping around, drenched in sweat) around a track for 15-20 minutes. All of that painful work to burn off a cookie. Now, tell me, where in Wii Sports or Wii Fit will you even approach that level of intensity -- and this is just for a cookie! Imagine an obese person needing to lose 20-30 pounds. If a cookie is 150 calories and a pound of fat is 3,500 calories, you can do the match and pretty much see that it will take forever to meet that goal if you use Wii Fit or Wii Sports.

The answer, I'm afriad, is ditch the Wii Fit and do it the right way, the natural way, the way even our ancestors knew. They did not need dumb modern-day contraptions and plastic toys to outrun and outperform us, they didnt even have shoes for chrissakes.

as i still haven't played the game yet, i surely cannot answer any of your questions right now, but there's one thing ssj_ken pointed out, Wii fit can be fun, real excercising cannot. The point of Wii fit is that it's still a game and can still be effective, i'm not saying it will make you look your gender stereotype, but at least it will get my muscles moving more than most games around.

WTH? :|

Are you kidding? Exercise can be fun. Have you ever actually tried an actual workout? Ever? And if you have, have you ever tried any SERIOUS alternatives?

:| The human body needs exercise. Our bodies are naturally inclined to begin enjoying excercise once you stay on a regiment for a long enough period of time, not to mention the benefits of increased blood flow and brain activity that come with working out. Have you EVER tried pushing yourself?

then why all the negativity around Wii fit if that's really the case?

i have tried actual workouts, also what are you trying to say about pushing myself, if you're talking about push ups or pushing myself in a wall then of course i have, i've also pulled myself from ledges (don't ask) but otherwise i really don't know what you're asking.

excercise can be refreshing once you get in to it, but fun? i don't think so, just look at the alternatives, dancing for instance is fun, but it's not a direct excercise, walking can be a bore sometimes without some distraction. what you said about enjoying excercise once you say on regiment can be true, i myself couldn't handle a long period of time excercise, and i believe that's the problem with all the fat people out there, it DOES take time to "get it" Wii Fit doesn't. and no if anyone is wondering i don't think Wii fit is the solution to my weight problem, but it's litrally a GAME about excercise, of course it's going to be fun.

Wow. :|

You know what, nevermind.
It's pretty clear you never tried in the first place, and I mean seriously tried. Whatever, I don't care. I never said there was a problem with WiiFit, I said I don't care about WiiFit, because I don't.

I......I don't even know where to start, so I won't. Go on with whatever strange, wackjob idea you have. I don't care.

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.nintendo-4life
i already talked about the difficulty part in my OP.

I'm not re-reading all of it again. Playing drums on expert difficulty takes skill while standing on one foot on a white thing takes no skill. There's no way you can spin that.

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The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.dracula_16

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

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Type in Through The Fire And The Flames on Expert on YouTube, and watch the gameplay.

Rock Band uses that kind of gameplay, and two other types.

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rock band or any musical game is more of a game than a virtual exercise game like wiifit.
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Pfft.. i'll never buy WiiFit when i get a Wii i'll just use the good old Gym for exercise
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]oh really? are you saying yoga doesn't do anything to fitness? :|-TheSecondSign-

how deep is the Yoga system in Wii Fit? Xbox1 had a Yoga game already (it was a 100% Yoga dedicated game) Should I praise that game for making women all over the country fit? If a game that's dedicated to Yoga couldn't induce a country-wide weight loss phenomenon, no way will Wii Fit. I bet the Yoga portion is some tiny minigame or two.

Yoga does make a person more limber, and increase the person's awareness of their own body, but Wii Fit is almost no different from a cheap late-night informercial product. It promises results using the lowest intensity (ie waste of time) possible, and this does not really lead to results. The reason why most of the country is unfit is because most of the country fall for these quick schemes. Only a small percentage of the people you see on the street who you'd classify as realy "fit" knew that those results did not come from a piece of plastic or junky equipment you buy in four easy payments of $12.99. It came through years of dedicated hard work and knowledge. Wii Sport or Wii Fit and even that Xbox 1 game, and even DDR, are not really the way to go. I know someone will say "DDR makes you hella tired!" One thing wrong with DDR used as exercise is you need to keep the heartrate at a continuous 15-20 minute stretch to see real fat-burning benefits (which are still small at this point) DDR has so many pauses and time to switch songs and settings that the heartrate never reaches the necessary pitch. That, and the person would need to play DDR quite often that he'll just say to himself, "Why not just go to the GYM and get 100% maximum fat-burning instead of this video game that gives only 60%?"

Use this hardcore rule: to burn off a decadent cookie you'd have to run like a madman (hair flopping around, drenched in sweat) around a track for 15-20 minutes. All of that painful work to burn off a cookie. Now, tell me, where in Wii Sports or Wii Fit will you even approach that level of intensity -- and this is just for a cookie! Imagine an obese person needing to lose 20-30 pounds. If a cookie is 150 calories and a pound of fat is 3,500 calories, you can do the match and pretty much see that it will take forever to meet that goal if you use Wii Fit or Wii Sports.

The answer, I'm afriad, is ditch the Wii Fit and do it the right way, the natural way, the way even our ancestors knew. They did not need dumb modern-day contraptions and plastic toys to outrun and outperform us, they didnt even have shoes for chrissakes.

as i still haven't played the game yet, i surely cannot answer any of your questions right now, but there's one thing ssj_ken pointed out, Wii fit can be fun, real excercising cannot. The point of Wii fit is that it's still a game and can still be effective, i'm not saying it will make you look your gender stereotype, but at least it will get my muscles moving more than most games around.

WTH? :|

Are you kidding? Exercise can be fun. Have you ever actually tried an actual workout? Ever? And if you have, have you ever tried any SERIOUS alternatives?

:| The human body needs exercise. Our bodies are naturally inclined to begin enjoying excercise once you stay on a regiment for a long enough period of time, not to mention the benefits of increased blood flow and brain activity that come with working out. Have you EVER tried pushing yourself?

then why all the negativity around Wii fit if that's really the case?

i have tried actual workouts, also what are you trying to say about pushing myself, if you're talking about push ups or pushing myself in a wall then of course i have, i've also pulled myself from ledges (don't ask) but otherwise i really don't know what you're asking.

excercise can be refreshing once you get in to it, but fun? i don't think so, just look at the alternatives, dancing for instance is fun, but it's not a direct excercise, walking can be a bore sometimes without some distraction. what you said about enjoying excercise once you say on regiment can be true, i myself couldn't handle a long period of time excercise, and i believe that's the problem with all the fat people out there, it DOES take time to "get it" Wii Fit doesn't. and no if anyone is wondering i don't think Wii fit is the solution to my weight problem, but it's litrally a GAME about excercise, of course it's going to be fun.

Wow. :|

You know what, nevermind.
It's pretty clear you never tried in the first place, and I mean seriously tried. Whatever, I don't care. I never said there was a problem with WiiFit, I said I don't care about WiiFit, because I don't.

I......I don't even know where to start, so I won't. Go on with whatever strange, wackjob idea you have. I don't care.

:| .... ok....

you know what? you are right i have never seriously tried because my heart was never in it, yes i am a bit overweight and i should care but i don't, so maybe you're right, that it is fun to excercise, but hell, i never reached that level.

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.X_Evo

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

That's irrelevant. Maybe standing on one foot is challenging for some people but it isn't for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

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Type in Through The Fire And The Flames on Expert on YouTube, and watch the gameplay.

Rock Band uses that kind of gameplay, and two other types.

Fireball2500
i've seen it live so no worry, BTW how hard is Wii Fit?

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.dracula_16

i already talked about the difficulty part in my OP.

I'm not re-reading all of it again. Playing drums on expert difficulty takes skill while standing on one foot on a white thing takes no skill. There's no way you can spin that.

like X_Evo said, you have played rock band to the grave i assume? so how can yo compare that to a game you never played?
rock band or any musical game is more of a game than a virtual exercise game like wiifit.rowzzr

that's because music in it's nature is harder than regular training.

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Nintendo is on fire right now. Everything they bring out is a hit, seriously. Some things I see them coming out with are: Wii dance, Wii sing, and Wii fight. They're on a roll...
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[QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.dracula_16

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

That's irrelevant. Maybe standing on one foot is challenging for some people but it isn't for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

Yes because that is all you do in Wiifit right you should know since you played the game?

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.X_Evo

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

That's irrelevant. Maybe standing on one foot is challenging for some people but it isn't for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

Yes because that is all you do in Wiifit right you should know since you played the game?

You step on a white thing. That's Wiifit. I can do sit ups for 10 minutes and get 100x better results.

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K first of all you burn calories when you sleep. Secondly to lose weight you need to figure out your bmi and how many calories your supposed to eat a day and eat 500 less or excersises 500 calories.

500 calories on eleptical= 30 minutes. Wii fit can at least burn 150 calorie+ in 30 minutes.

Please don't talk as if your some expert on this issue.

ssj_ken

500 calories on 30 minutes of bike is very hard to do. This would be non-stop at 90% and above capacity. This is tough even for Olympic atheletes. My 150 calorie example is more reasonable for the ordinary man and woman.

I've read the university studies (you havent, obviously) on the muscular stimulation and caloric expenditures of various intensive activities. They were from a wide range of long-distance running, boxing, to even basketball. Yes, you burn calories when you sleep, but those do not suddenly mean you wake up lighter or fit. A lot of those calories are for repair and other physiological processes (tissue repair, digestion, circulation, etc) So forget the sleeping part (because why dont we just sleep ourselves to fitness? Obviously this would never work. Sleep all day and you wont lose anything to notice)

I highly doubt Wii Fit will burn 150 calories in 30 minutes. There is no game in Wii Fit where you are continuously exerting yourself at 90% capacity non-stop. If there is, that is one punishing mini-game. Did you read a recent article where they measured how much a person was burning calories between Wii Fit and a normal video game. It was surprising that they were really close. Wii Fit is for casual entry, and I'm not surprised a lot of it is low-impact and light (why would Nintendo push you hard, they dont want lawsuits) The trouble is, you need to be pushed hard (as my examples have shown) just to see a tiny fraction of results. You need to push even harder, all the time, just to see 10%-20% of the results. Hopefully by now someone will understand how difficult it is to lose weight, which explains the heavy-set proportion of the population. I can't completely blame them. One, it's tough and time-consuming. Two, we live in a societ that is extremely unhelpful to those seeking advice. They are guided down the wrong corridors and snake-oil salesmen looking to make a profit.

Wii Fit just isn't the way to go. It's the inexprienced and uneducated way to go. I am not bashing it just because it's Nintendo. The game that came out on Xbox 1 (I think it was called Your Fitness) was a waste of time. This is just giving the public more bad information. The idea you can just once in a while take a stroll in the park or have a 30 minute "fun session" on Wii Fit is exactly what I'm against. It perpetuates the image that you can get fit without it being intense and time-consuming and boring. And it turns out all three are WRONG. (well, the boring part is subjective) But, go ahead America, dont believe me and continue the fat trend that has the world laughing. No other country in the world has as many infomercial products and yet STILL has the highest proportion of unfit people. Something should strike you there that it's NOT working and that we are facing the wrong direction when it comes to fitness education. The idea of "I'll go for a nice stroll through the park and become fit" no longer works. Sorry to burst the bubble.

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[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.dracula_16

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

That's irrelevant. Maybe standing on one foot is challenging for some people but it isn't for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

Yes because that is all you do in Wiifit right you should know since you played the game?

You step on a white thing. That's Wiifit. I can do sit ups for 10 minutes and get 100x better results.

so you're playing the game for "results" :|
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so you're playing the game for "results" :|nintendo-4life

Well seeing as how Wiifit is a cheap immitation of a fitness game, it's designed to fool you into thinking you're getting a good workout.

Why spend $200 to lean to the left side when I can do sit ups and push ups and get better results 100 fold. Like I said in my original post, Rock Band takes this thing called skill to play. Wii Fit does not.

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] so you're playing the game for "results" :|dracula_16

Well seeing as how Wiifit is a cheap immitation of a fitness game, it's designed to fool you into thinking you're getting a good workout.

Why spend $200 to lean to the left side when I can do sit ups and push ups and get better results 100 fold. Like I said in my original post, Rock Band takes this thing called skill to play. Wii Fit does not.

as i have said in my OP, it can go vise versa, why spend money on a cheap imitation when i can buy real instruments? BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE!!!!

BTW i will ask you one more time, DID YOU or did you not play Wii Fit?

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Wii Fit is exercise. Rock Band isn't.kage_53

rockband is fun. wii fit isnt. and i doubt sticking a leg out is going to do much about your weight

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#78 tekmojo
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WiiFit is a very misleading name, how about we call WiiHalfAss.
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#79 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]Wii Fit is exercise. Rock Band isn't.TreetarD93

rockband is fun. wii fit isnt. and i doubt sticking a leg out is going to do much about your weight

so you played it as well?
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#80 TreetarD93
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.nintendo-4life

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

That's irrelevant. Maybe standing on one foot is challenging for some people but it isn't for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

Yes because that is all you do in Wiifit right you should know since you played the game?

You step on a white thing. That's Wiifit. I can do sit ups for 10 minutes and get 100x better results.

so you're playing the game for "results" :|

well that would pretty much be the point of buying an exercize game

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#81 TreetarD93
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i can tell from the video clips that wii fit isnt going to be fun. rock band is playing a fast paced game with your friends while listening to great music, while wii fit is pretending to hoola hoop. a cant believe how you sheep defend everything nintendo. im glad i switched to being a neutral gamer.

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#82 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="ssj_ken"]K first of all you burn calories when you sleep. Secondly to lose weight you need to figure out your bmi and how many calories your supposed to eat a day and eat 500 less or excersises 500 calories.

500 calories on eleptical= 30 minutes. Wii fit can at least burn 150 calorie+ in 30 minutes.

Please don't talk as if your some expert on this issue.

PhoebusFlows

500 calories on 30 minutes of bike is very hard to do. This would be non-stop at 90% and above capacity. This is tough even for Olympic atheletes. My 150 calorie example is more reasonable for the ordinary man and woman.

I've read the university studies (you havent, obviously) on the muscular stimulation and caloric expenditures of various intensive activities. They were from a wide range of long-distance running, boxing, to even basketball. Yes, you burn calories when you sleep, but those do not suddenly mean you wake up lighter or fit. A lot of those calories are for repair and other physiological processes (tissue repair, digestion, circulation, etc) So forget the sleeping part (because why dont we just sleep ourselves to fitness? Obviously this would never work. Sleep all day and you wont lose anything to notice)

I highly doubt Wii Fit will burn 150 calories in 30 minutes. There is no game in Wii Fit where you are continuously exerting yourself at 90% capacity non-stop. If there is, that is one punishing mini-game. Did you read a recent article where they measured how much a person was burning calories between Wii Fit and a normal video game. It was surprising that they were really close. Wii Fit is for casual entry, and I'm not surprised a lot of it is low-impact and light (why would Nintendo push you hard, they dont want lawsuits) The trouble is, you need to be pushed hard (as my examples have shown) just to see a tiny fraction of results. You need to push even harder, all the time, just to see 10%-20% of the results. Hopefully by now someone will understand how difficult it is to lose weight, which explains the heavy-set proportion of the population. I can't completely blame them. One, it's tough and time-consuming. Two, we live in a societ that is extremely unhelpful to those seeking advice. They are guided down the wrong corridors and snake-oil salesmen looking to make a profit.

Wii Fit just isn't the way to go. It's the inexprienced and uneducated way to go. I am not bashing it just because it's Nintendo. The game that came out on Xbox 1 (I think it was called Your Fitness) was a waste of time. This is just giving the public more bad information. The idea you can just once in a while take a stroll in the park or have a 30 minute "fun session" on Wii Fit is exactly what I'm against. It perpetuates the image that you can get fit without it being intense and time-consuming and boring. And it turns out all three are WRONG. (well, the boring part is subjective) But, go ahead America, dont believe me and continue the fat trend that has the world laughing. No other country in the world has as many infomercial products and yet STILL has the highest proportion of unfit people. Something should strike you there that it's NOT working and that we are facing the wrong direction when it comes to fitness education. The idea of "I'll go for a nice stroll through the park and become fit" no longer works. Sorry to burst the bubble.

wow you really know a lot about fitness don't you? i just want to things, if it takes that much to burn calories, why stopping to eat will make your weight go down? obviously with what you said it's time consuming and hard, but a diet is very easy, and why is stuff like depression cause so much effect on weight?

the second request.. can i read the article you're talking about?

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#83 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]Wii Fit is exercise. Rock Band isn't.TreetarD93

rockband is fun. wii fit isnt. and i doubt sticking a leg out is going to do much about your weight

so you played it as well?

i can tell from the video clips that wii fit isnt going to be fun. rock band is playing a fast paced game with your friends while listening to great music, while wii fit is pretending to hoola hoop. a cant believe how you sheep defend everything nintendo. im glad i switched to being a neutral gamer.

yes because you're not pretending anything while playing rock band huh? :|

BTW the same argument happened with Wii sports so i believe it's evident how videos always gives you the truth.

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#84 TreetarD93
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also wii fit is to a real workout as a video game with a penis and vagina controller would be to real sex
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#85 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.TreetarD93

Oh have you played Wii Fit :D?

That's irrelevant. Maybe standing on one foot is challenging for some people but it isn't for anyone who knows what they're talking about.

Yes because that is all you do in Wiifit right you should know since you played the game?

You step on a white thing. That's Wiifit. I can do sit ups for 10 minutes and get 100x better results.

so you're playing the game for "results" :|

well that would pretty much be the point of buying an exercize "game"

to play :|

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#86 nintendo-4life
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also wii fit is to a real workout as a video game with a penis and vagina controller would be to real sexTreetarD93
exactly :|
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#87 xflamedemonx
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its more healtheir and funner to excericise outside and its for free

a guitar and drums and a mike cost money

its going to be good but a ripoff id save up for ssbb if i had a wii

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#88 LordXelNaga
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The problem lies in balance. EA still have traditional titles gracing their release schedule (ie Crysis and the like) whereas this kind of extremely casual has seemingly become the absolute focus of Nintendo, this point is compounded considering that this is the hardware manufacturer and the fact that there is a lot of tripe already on that particular console.
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#89 gtawoof
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I dont praise Rock Band or Guitar Hero =/.
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#91 redmetal86
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The difference is that Rock Band takes some skill to play. Wii Fit doesn't.

dracula_16

i think that would be more along the lines of hand eye coordination rather than skill. any person without any experience with a real instrument or a music game can play rock band and be good at it. its not rocket science, its just macthing your hand or foot with what is on the screen. thats kinda like saying it takes skill to play simon.
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#92 REforever101
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wiiFit isnt even really a game, rock band is
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#93 ssj_ken
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wiiFit isnt even really a game, rock band isREforever101

Its a cheap imitation of the real life experience. So no rockband isn't a game.

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#94 Jacobistheman
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wii fit doesn't do anything other than tricking people into thinking there getting a workout and making america fat
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#95 Jacobistheman
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[QUOTE="REforever101"]wiiFit isnt even really a game, rock band isssj_ken

Its a cheap imitation of the real life experience. So no rockband isn't a game.

so what is a game if it isn't an imitation of a real life experienc. In that case you could say sports games and war games aren't games. That is some bad logic.

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#96 Dymedropp3r
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Metallica>Exercise
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#97 redmetal86
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[QUOTE="ssj_ken"]

[QUOTE="REforever101"]wiiFit isnt even really a game, rock band isJacobistheman

Its a cheap imitation of the real life experience. So no rockband isn't a game.

so what is a game if it isn't an imitation of a real life experienc. In that case you could say sports games and war games aren't games. That is some bad logic.

pac man is a game. it isnt an imitation of a real life experience. as far as i know >.>

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#98 Nintendo_Ownes7
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The problem lies in balance. EA still have traditional titles gracing their release schedule (ie Crysis and the like) whereas this kind of extremely casual has seemingly become the absolute focus of Nintendo, this point is compounded considering that this is the hardware manufacturer and the fact that there is a lot of tripe already on that particular console.LordXelNaga
You Seriously think that Nintendo is mainly focusing on Casuals.

Casual games by Nintendo

  • Wii Sports
  • Wii Play
  • Wii Fit
  • Big Brain Academy
  • Warioware
  • Mario Party 8

Core games by Nintendo

  • Super Mario Galaxy
  • Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
  • Mario Strikers Charged
  • Super Paper Mario
  • Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
  • Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

That is very Balanced IMO and for 2008 they have more Core games then Casual games announced so far.

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#99 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="LordXelNaga"]The problem lies in balance. EA still have traditional titles gracing their release schedule (ie Crysis and the like) whereas this kind of extremely casual has seemingly become the absolute focus of Nintendo, this point is compounded considering that this is the hardware manufacturer and the fact that there is a lot of tripe already on that particular console.Nintendo_Ownes7

You Seriously think that Nintendo is mainly focusing on Casuals.

Casual games by Nintendo

  • Wii Sports
  • Wii Play
  • Wii Fit
  • Big Brain Academy
  • Warioware
  • Mario Party 8

Core games by Nintendo

  • Super Mario Galaxy
  • Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
  • Mario Strikers Charged
  • Super Paper Mario
  • Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
  • Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

That is very Balanced IMO and for 2008 they have more Core games then Casual games announced so far.

Funny thing is he's still forgetting "core" games, seriously nintendo cares more about "us" than you think.

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#100 haziqonfire
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So true.