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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]I'm 95% sure DD is the future.Javy03The future of what? Renting, owning, everything? I think it might be the future for renting movies, but owning I am no so convinced. maybe not now, maybe not 5 years but in the future when internet is crazy faster etc. who would want to wait a couple of days to own something when within a couple of seconds from clicking "buy" you could be playing the game?
I think they're using $30 million of the stimulus money to expand broadband internet. that should help somewhat.Zero5000X
I think that is a big fat lie. I know people who have been living with 56k all their lives and the DSL or cable line is only 3 or so miles away when it ends. Yet to this day they still have no plans to expand the coverage.
$30 million really isn't anything at all. USA is massive,just under3 Million square miles (48 states).
So, yeah... It's gonna be a long time before people see broad band.
DD is the future. It saves space, keeps from getting your product damaged (unless you decide to spill a drink all over the har drive it's stored in), and it's all on one device.iammasonAgreed. The nature of human beings is make it simpler and less work to get. It's a way off, but it's coming.
Other than the obvious of Steam being exceedingly popular, isn't Netflix a big deal in the US as well? I agree that ISP bandwidth caps are really hurting future distribution, but I'm fairly confident that more corporations will shift towards digital distribution and will force the change with those greedy ISP's who don't want to update their infrastructure :)
Here's what internet bills will look like if Digital Distribution takes off.
Bluray001
Haha, wow. I do about half that and I ended up switching off Rogers last year to avoid bandwidth surcharges. DSL isn't as fast and my latency is higher, but at least I won't get charged extra.
[QUOTE="nmaharg"]I find it funny people say they hate DD, yet they most likely have itunes installed with a bunch of MP3s on there PC/Iphone/Ipod/zune/psp do I need to go on. Steam is slowly becoming the itunes of gaming. Itunes sells more music through DD than all retail stores combined. "But, but DD is the fail...." Bluray001Downloading music is convienent. It takes seconds. Unlike games which takes hours.... and TrueHD movies, which take a day or two. maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours.
[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]I find it funny people say they hate DD, yet they most likely have itunes installed with a bunch of MP3s on there PC/Iphone/Ipod/zune/psp do I need to go on. Steam is slowly becoming the itunes of gaming. Itunes sells more music through DD than all retail stores combined. "But, but DD is the fail...." WilliamRLBakerDownloading music is convienent. It takes seconds. Unlike games which takes hours.... and TrueHD movies, which take a day or two. maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours. That "HD movie" you are downloading isn't actually HD.
I can't believe how closeminded people are. DD is the freaking present. It's where the content makers want to go and it's where it eventually will end up. Of course not everyone will be able to use it, but that isn't the point. You don't need everybody to make it work, just a reasonable majority.Saying you won't accept it is like standing in the path of a hurricane with a cardboard shield. It's basically a waste of time because you ain't stopping it.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Bluray001"] Downloading music is convienent. It takes seconds. Unlike games which takes hours.... and TrueHD movies, which take a day or two. Bluray001maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours. That "HD movie" you are downloading isn't actually HD.720p video is HD.
I don't mind DD as long as hard copies remain the primary option. Networks go away, computers and consoles die, business shut down, ... I don't want my games to exist in virtual space, I want them to exist in real space.
Besides, if DD fully takes over hard copies expect to be abused.
That "HD movie" you are downloading isn't actually HD.720p video is HD. Did you check the bitrate? XD Or the audio codec that comes with it?[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours.heretrix
That "HD movie" you are downloading isn't actually HD.720p video is HD. Did you check the bitrate? XD Or the audio codec that comes with it?[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours.heretrix
very few countries don't have a flat fee for net connection. It sucks for you that you're living in one of them I guessHere's what internet bills will look like if Digital Distribution takes off.
Bluray001
very few countries don't have a flat fee for net connection. It sucks for you that you're living in one of them I guess But the US is the most important country in the gaming industry.[QUOTE="Bluray001"]
Here's what internet bills will look like if Digital Distribution takes off.
AdrianWerner
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]very few countries don't have a flat fee for net connection. It sucks for you that you're living in one of them I guess But the US is the most important country in the gaming industry.Not in PCgaming industry though. Funny correlation, don't you think? :)[QUOTE="Bluray001"]
Here's what internet bills will look like if Digital Distribution takes off.
Zero5000X
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Bluray001"] Downloading music is convienent. It takes seconds. Unlike games which takes hours.... and TrueHD movies, which take a day or two. Bluray001maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours. That "HD movie" you are downloading isn't actually HD.
lol yeah whatever you say, then i guess its native 1080p encoding means nothing. lol stop making excuses bluray like someone else said was a useless upgrade not even half of america owns an hdtv and doesn't look to be getting one any time soon, blu ray was before its time as was hd dvd. the 360 and ps3 both struggle to even product native 720p constantly let alone 1080p.
P.S: just to answer your bitrate question i have someone that are 45mbits.
But the US is the most important country in the gaming industry.Not in PCgaming industry though. Funny correlation, don't you think? :) Actually it might be. If you look at, say, Germany which is mainly PC gaming and compare it the U.S. which is mainly console gaming I'm willing to bet the U.S. still contributes more to PC gaming due to population size. The only single country i can see with more PC gamers is China which doesn't allow consoles for some reason. South Korea I'm not sure about. Regardless the U.S. is near the top of the list and I doubt any company is going to make a service that doesn't work for the U.S. unless they plan on just not making their service global.[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]very few countries don't have a flat fee for net connection. It sucks for you that you're living in one of them I guess
AdrianWerner
[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] maybe on your connection, where as on mine it can take a few minutes, or an hour, and HD movies a few hours.WilliamRLBakerThat "HD movie" you are downloading isn't actually HD. lol yeah whatever you say, then i guess its native 1080p encoding means nothing. lol stop making excuses bluray like someone else said was a useless upgrade not even half of america owns an hdtv and doesn't look to be getting one any time soon, blu ray was before its time as was hd dvd. the 360 and ps3 both struggle to even product native 720p constantly let alone 1080p. PS3 does 1080p/24 perfectly. Again, you should check the bitrate of that "HD Movie" you are watching. Make sure you check the audio while you are at it. It's not HD.
It's very convinient for me on the pc, and most of my steam games actually install faster than their DVD counterparts. I'm definitely a fan of DD.
DD is freaking lame!!! I pefer a hard copy over anything at least then you have ownership over said material. Otherwise you just renting their product.
It's been around forever, and it's still a niche market. Not only in terms of sales has it been surpassed by Blu-Ray, but even the now discontinued HD-DVD outsold Digital Distribution. In terms of movies, it's also highly inconvienent unlike music or picture digital distribution.
Not to mention the new internet bandwidth caps that ISPs are now adopting in order to keep download speeds consistant for all users.
why do you say that? its already happened with music. besides, DLC, PSN, Wii-Ware, and XBL services are already demonstrating the viability of DD. that's not to say that physical copies won't still exist.It's been around forever, and it's still a niche market. Not only in terms of sales has it been surpassed by Blu-Ray, but even the now discontinued HD-DVD outsold Digital Distribution. In terms of movies, it's also highly inconvienent unlike music or picture digital distribution.
Not to mention the new internet bandwidth caps that ISPs are now adopting in order to keep download speeds consistant for all users.
why do you say that? its already happened with music. besides, DLC, PSN, Wii-Ware, and XBL services are already demonstrating the viability of DD. that's not to say that physical copies won't still exist. Music downloading is convienent. Movies and games... not so much.Last time I checked, 50% of Americans had broadband, and that number was increasing very slowly. Good luck with DD.
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Not in PCgaming industry though. Funny correlation, don't you think? :) Actually it might be. If you look at, say, Germany which is mainly PC gaming and compare it the U.S. which is mainly console gaming I'm willing to bet the U.S. still contributes more to PC gaming due to population size. The only single country i can see with more PC gamers is China which doesn't allow consoles for some reason. South Korea I'm not sure about. Regardless the U.S. is near the top of the list and I doubt any company is going to make a service that doesn't work for the U.S. unless they plan on just not making their service global.General numbers? Propably. But looking just at one number will give you false impression of the market. Look at what makes the PCgaming's market money in US. WoW, sims...some casual games. Normal PC games we care about here at GS and other forums are selling absymal numbers. Aside from the ones mentioned above there are maybe 4-5 pc games each year that manage to sell more than 100K units in US. Plenty of devs are selling more copies in other countries, let alone in EU, which as a whole dwarfs US.[QUOTE="Zero5000X"] But the US is the most important country in the gaming industry.Zero5000X
Look at how often US is getting a shaft nowadays when it comes to PC games, you often cen see awful low quality english translations with cheap voice overs, long delays compared to Euro releases, often not releasing add-ons as standalone products instead just adding them to "Gold re-relase" bundle, ending with some games not appearing at all in US.
It's been around forever, and it's still a niche market. Not only in terms of sales has it been surpassed by Blu-Ray, but even the now discontinued HD-DVD outsold Digital Distribution. In terms of movies, it's also highly inconvienent unlike music or picture digital distribution.
Not to mention the new internet bandwidth caps that ISPs are now adopting in order to keep download speeds consistant for all users.
why do you say that? its already happened with music. besides, DLC, PSN, Wii-Ware, and XBL services are already demonstrating the viability of DD. that's not to say that physical copies won't still exist. Music downloading is convienent. Movies and games... not so much. would you rather go to a store to buy, let's say, additional maps, or just download them from home?Please Log In to post.
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