I don't see the magic of LIVE

Live has better servers as well.

There equal. The only diff is xbl gives you xgame voice chat and cost 50 while psn gives you xgame text chatrooms and is free

Live has better servers as well.

princemarth23

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

XMB is superior to NXE, which is by far the weakest feature of XBL.

Gxgear

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

lets see...what you just cliamed.

XMB has no scrolling for long friends lists or any other area where there are lots of options. this is what you claimed, and It is infact false if you have too many friends you have to scroll just as much as NXE, and if an option area has many options you have to scroll just as much.
Then there is the fact you have claimed another false hood...half the panels direct you to marketplace to spend money this is infact false.

when it comes to playing a game, checking you achievements, leading you to options these panels lead you to the appropriate areas, video panels with specific content often lead you to video previews first.

please stop spreading falsehoods.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

That's all you needed to say, because everything after that just isn't true. NXE may have a lot of shortcut panels, but (again) a lot of them revolves aroud the marketplace and as someone who is more interested in playing games than shopping it's just incovenient.

Gxgear

Speaking from experience, none of those shortcut panels are useful to me. Every time you want to play a game you have to go through 2 panels to get there, and for music or video you have to navigate to the row of panels first, then go to the end of that row. Scrolling through Spotlight/My Community/Inside Xbox is probably my least favourite thing to do on my 360 yet I have to do it every time to go to friend list. With XMB your music/video files and games are instantly accessible from the root menu.

Live has better servers as well.

princemarth23

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I like NXE just fine... it connects you to everything right off the bat. But that's a preference thing.WilliamRLBaker

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

lets see...what you just cliamed.

XMB has no scrolling for long friends lists or any other area where there are lots of options. this is what you claimed, and It is infact false if you have too many friends you have to scroll just as much as NXE, and if an option area has many options you have to scroll just as much.
Then there is the fact you have claimed another false hood...half the panels direct you to marketplace to spend money this is infact false.

when it comes to playing a game, checking you achievements, leading you to options these panels lead you to the appropriate areas, video panels with specific content often lead you to video previews first.

please stop spreading falsehoods.

Just relaying what I'm seeing. I guess reality is a state of the mind, so what I'm seeing must be false to you right?

Let's see, Spotlight has all but one that doesn't either take me to marketplace, wants me to spend money right away, or only available as gold (which automatically prompt it to get me to upgrade to gold). My community has 1 (a poll, the same one from Spotlight). Inside Xbox, all free videos. Music/Video/Game Marketplace each have only 1 that doesn't take me there. And My Xbox is the only safe haven free of advertisement.

Your witness.

There is no magic. It's overpriced service. I'm already paying for game, and now I have to pay more so I can unlock it's multiplayer feature. Microsoft you can't be more greedy? Yes, you can... microsoft points.

Two reason why I'm thinking of selling my 360 instead of ps3. (I have to sell the other one, I need money. And I only need 2 gaming platforms 360/ps3 and pc).

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

Gxgear

lets see...what you just cliamed.

XMB has no scrolling for long friends lists or any other area where there are lots of options. this is what you claimed, and It is infact false if you have too many friends you have to scroll just as much as NXE, and if an option area has many options you have to scroll just as much.
Then there is the fact you have claimed another false hood...half the panels direct you to marketplace to spend money this is infact false.

when it comes to playing a game, checking you achievements, leading you to options these panels lead you to the appropriate areas, video panels with specific content often lead you to video previews first.

please stop spreading falsehoods.

Just relaying what I'm seeing. I guess reality is a state of the mind, so what I'm seeing must be false to you right?

Let's see, Spotlight has all but one that doesn't either take me to marketplace, wants me to spend money right away, or only available as gold (which automatically prompt it to get me to upgrade to gold). My community has 1 (a poll, the same one from Spotlight). Inside Xbox, all free videos. Music/Video/Game Marketplace each have only 1 that doesn't take me there. And My Xbox is the only safe haven free of advertisement.

Your witness.

The 360 doesn't get "priority" for DLC. What are all these "features" some of you are speaking of? And what? The xmb is much more... simple. It's easier to use when compared to the 360 dashboard. No, TC, it is not better... in any way, whatsoever.stiggy321

FYI, "mexican" and "jew" are not insults, they are descriptions of race/ethnicity.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lets see...what you just cliamed.

XMB has no scrolling for long friends lists or any other area where there are lots of options. this is what you claimed, and It is infact false if you have too many friends you have to scroll just as much as NXE, and if an option area has many options you have to scroll just as much.
Then there is the fact you have claimed another false hood...half the panels direct you to marketplace to spend money this is infact false.

when it comes to playing a game, checking you achievements, leading you to options these panels lead you to the appropriate areas, video panels with specific content often lead you to video previews first.

please stop spreading falsehoods.

WilliamRLBaker

Just relaying what I'm seeing. I guess reality is a state of the mind, so what I'm seeing must be false to you right?

Let's see, Spotlight has all but one that doesn't either take me to marketplace, wants me to spend money right away, or only available as gold (which automatically prompt it to get me to upgrade to gold). My community has 1 (a poll, the same one from Spotlight). Inside Xbox, all free videos. Music/Video/Game Marketplace each have only 1 that doesn't take me there. And My Xbox is the only safe haven free of advertisement.

Your witness.

It's amazing how you can say so much about so little.

But the fact remains that NXE is populated by panels that you're forced to flick through.

How exactly is LIVE better than PSN

-Cross Game Chat: Cool but not worth 50$ a year

-Everyone Has a Headset: More annoying little kids calling eachother "Mexicans" and "Jews" (No Offense to Anyone)

-More Downloadable Games: As much as I'd like to play some of those Live Games such as Perfect Dark and whatnot it still isn't any better than PSOne and eventually PS2 (just speculation) classics.

-Priority With DLC: This doesn't really bother me cause I'm not a big fan of overpriced DLC

I'm not trying to be an Arrogant Cow, but will someone please explain to me how LIVE is better.

davidkamayor

1 better presentation.

2 zune tv (and very soon we will get mtv on xbl)

3 cross game chat(never use it tho)

4 better games( imo )

5 much faster download (much much muhc faster)

6 less lag on online games

7 larger online comunity (even tho psn hav more users more people are active on xbl than psn)

8 u get demo for eavvry single downloadable game.

9 game on demand (u can download full retail games for 360)

10 more dlc is availabel for games.

11 you get stuff earlier than psn.

12 u pay around 3.5 dollars a month for this service. (u practically waste mroe than 3.5 dollars everymonth)

13 avatar are simply better than psn home and avatar games are a nice touch.

14 very cheap community games XNA.

i love xbl much more than psn. either way the new psn premium looks interesting. rumors has it they will give u a free game every month if this is true then xbl will be in trouble .

How exactly is LIVE better than PSN

-Cross Game Chat: Cool but not worth 50$ a year

-Everyone Has a Headset: More annoying little kids calling eachother "Mexicans" and "Jews" (No Offense to Anyone)

-More Downloadable Games: As much as I'd like to play some of those Live Games such as Perfect Dark and whatnot it still isn't any better than PSOne and eventually PS2 (just speculation) classics.

-Priority With DLC: This doesn't really bother me cause I'm not a big fan of overpriced DLC

I'm not trying to be an Arrogant Cow, but will someone please explain to me how LIVE is better.

davidkamayor

Cross game chat is only underrated simply because PS3 users don't have an equiveleant feature. Which looking back is exactly how Achievements were dismissed. Until they got trophies that is ;)

Having a headset is a valuable asset in multiplayer team games (Halo, GeoW, MW2, BC2, etc...) The teams that communicate are most often the ones that win. There aren't as many "whiny kids" as seems, just that they get the most media atention on youtube which creates the misleading impression that this as a common representation. In any case, the presense of those bad seeds doesn't diminish the value a headset has for players who do work together.

The arcade library comparison is purely subjective. For me it has provided a wealth of opportunity to recapture my nostalgic gaming days of old, sometimes imported in its original state and sometimes updated. I have many fond memories of the original SF2, Turtles in Time, the TMNT arcade game, Doom, Castlevania SotN, R Type, Raiden, Bionic Commando, Golden Axe, Magic Sword, Defender, Tron, and so much more. The great thing is not just past console games, but cIassic arcade titles :)

I see most of the DLC as reinvigorating old games with new life. Price is subjective.

Also I can't be sure, but is there an HD movie download service on PSN? That's another great feature of Live.

Why not ask the people who use both PSN and LIVE. Protip: The overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why LIVE is better.

Why not ask the people who use both PSN and LIVE. Protip: The overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why LIVE is better.

Verge_6

I 'HAD' both, I never saw the difference in online game play other then the ability to circumvent in game chat to cheat on FPS.

Protip: Just speak for yourself ;)

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Why not ask the people who use both PSN and LIVE. Protip: The overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why LIVE is better.

FragTycoon

I 'HAD' both, I never saw the difference in online game play other then the ability to circumvent in game chat to cheat on FPS.

Protip: Just speak for yourself ;)

Two of your main complaints are that you hate communication and games?

Really?

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Why not ask the people who use both PSN and LIVE. Protip: The overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why LIVE is better.

Verge_6

I 'HAD' both, I never saw the difference in online game play other then the ability to circumvent in game chat to cheat on FPS.

Protip: Just speak for yourself ;)

What was that?

You cant prove that "overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why live is better"?

my protip stands ;)

I don't either. There's no magical feature it has that would make me ever want to pay for it.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I 'HAD' both, I never saw the difference in online game play other then the ability to circumvent in game chat to cheat on FPS.

Protip: Just speak for yourself ;)

FragTycoon

What was that?

You cant prove that "overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why live is better"?

my protip stands ;)

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Two of your main complaints are that you hate communication and games?

Really?

cainetao11

it's not as golden as 'we don't need party chat, it's only a distraction'

you browse PS3 forums once 'we want party chat'

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Protip: Overwhelming majority doesn't equate to 'absolutely everone'. Sorry. :)Verge_6

What was that?

You cant prove that "overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why live is better"?

my protip stands ;)

You make the claim, you back it up with proof, we both know you cant, so speak for your self.

Just because you feel that way orX amount of people inyour home townor some other smaller demographic feels that way don't make it so. It's my suspicion that most people who own BOTH, people who are all over the world, see little or no benefit in LIVE over PSN.

But that's all I have... a suspician, an asumption, just like you. But I'm not trying to pass that off as fact.

This is not your first day in SW, you know better.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Just relaying what I'm seeing. I guess reality is a state of the mind, so what I'm seeing must be false to you right?

Let's see, Spotlight has all but one that doesn't either take me to marketplace, wants me to spend money right away, or only available as gold (which automatically prompt it to get me to upgrade to gold). My community has 1 (a poll, the same one from Spotlight). Inside Xbox, all free videos. Music/Video/Game Marketplace each have only 1 that doesn't take me there. And My Xbox is the only safe haven free of advertisement.

Your witness.

Gxgear

It's amazing how you can say so much about so little.

But the fact remains that NXE is populated by panels that you're forced to flick through.

It's about as inconvenient as having to launch a whole separate app to form a party and launch into games. It's as inconvenient as a cross-game invite system that's not consistent through all games. Or trying to find details on a community event.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

What was that?

You cant prove that "overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why live is better"?

my protip stands ;)

FragTycoon

You make the claim, you back it up with proof, we both know you cant, so speak for your self.

Just because you feel that way orX amount of people inyour home townor some other smaller demographic feels that way don't make it so. It's my suspicion that most people who own BOTH, people who are all over the world, see little or no benefit in LIVE over PSN.

But that's all I have... a suspician, an asumption, just like you. But I'm not trying to pass that off as fact.

This is not your first day in SW, you know better.

You wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning or what?

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Two of your main complaints are that you hate communication and games?

Really?

HavocV3

it's not as golden as 'we don't need party chat, it's only a distraction'

you browse PS3 forums once 'we want party chat'

Like I always said. Its just a 'sour grapes' attitude because they don't have it. Until that is, they get it, then its awesome. Just like with Achievements until Trophies came along :lol:

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] You can't prove they don't, either. Either way, this board is testament to more people with both services favoring LIVE than PSN. It's a general known tidbit, and why you're trying to disprove it is nothing short of confusing.Verge_6

You make the claim, you back it up with proof, we both know you cant, so speak for your self.

Just because you feel that way orX amount of people inyour home townor some other smaller demographic feels that way don't make it so. It's my suspicion that most people who own BOTH, people who are all over the world, see little or no benefit in LIVE over PSN.

But that's all I have... a suspician, an asumption, just like you. But I'm not trying to pass that off as fact.

This is not your first day in SW, you know better.

You wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning or what?

So let me get this right... your saying polls here are all that matter?

I know scores here are all that matterin SW but YOU are saying that polls in SW make things fact?

I guess I sound rediculous :roll:

Now your saying "most people who have both prefer LIVE over PSN"... a little different from "overwhelming majority of those that use both services can give plenty of reasons why live is better"

A little backing down?... not so sure any more? It's ok, it's the internet, all you have to do is attack me personaly or disapear, then no one will remember.

hey look the 8 millionth thread where the people that own both systems say live crushes psn and the people that only have psn tell us it is the one that is better... how...expected.

hey look the 8 millionth thread where the people that own both systems say live crushes psn and the people that only have psn tell us it is the one that is better... how...expected.

Riverwolf007

Exactly. These threads are all the same. Some one tries and make Xbox Live look bad and then everyone replies and the original creator of the thread looks like a bafoon trying to argue.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] so let me get this straight you are forced to look through all that to get to your friends list....Well I never knew that... I guess just going up to friends list, I must have found a magical back door into the program. that's the claim your making and were making you have to go through all this exhaustive crap to get to your friends list when you don't.

VoodooHak

It's amazing how you can say so much about so little.

But the fact remains that NXE is populated by panels that you're forced to flick through.

It's about as inconvenient as having to launch a whole separate app to form a party and launch into games. It's as inconvenient as a cross-game invite system that's not consistent through all games. Or trying to find details on a community event.

It's always easy to jump in with a random comparison to a whole separate topic huh? Very well.

The things you mentioned are the niceties that XBL offers, but they were never a necessity. Why would anyone ever need a party to play Mass Effect 2 or Alan Wake, unless what they're really playing is MW2.

And of course I don't need to remind you that it's a paid service. If online gaming on the 360 wasn't restricted to gold members, everyone would jump ship to silver faster than you can say "bu...bu...but the cross game chat/invite?" It's also somewhat ironic that not having cross-game invite would be considered inconvenient but not disc swapping.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

It's amazing how you can say so much about so little.

But the fact remains that NXE is populated by panels that you're forced to flick through.

Gxgear

It's about as inconvenient as having to launch a whole separate app to form a party and launch into games. It's as inconvenient as a cross-game invite system that's not consistent through all games. Or trying to find details on a community event.

It's always easy to jump in with a random comparison to a whole separate topic huh? Very well.

The things you mentioned are the niceties that XBL offers, but they were never a necessity. Why would anyone ever need a party to play Mass Effect 2 or Alan Wake, unless what they're really playing is MW2.

And of course I don't need to remind you that it's a paid service. If online gaming on the 360 wasn't restricted to gold members, everyone would jump ship to silver faster than you can say "bu...bu...but the cross game chat/invite?" It's also somewhat ironic that not having cross-game invite would be considered inconvenient but not disc swapping.

was he one to say disc swapping was actually convenient?

not seeing the relevancy here. but at least he hasn't turned cross-game invites into something laborious. like how swapping discs was such a 'chore' they said.

I DONT SEE THE POINT OF THIS POST.

only by owning BOTH a PS3 and an Xbox 360, can you Truly and unbiasedly see how poor PSN is compaired to Live.

im hardly ever on PSN and thats if im not waiting 74 hours installing manditory updates.

Nothing to see here, lets move on.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

It's about as inconvenient as having to launch a whole separate app to form a party and launch into games. It's as inconvenient as a cross-game invite system that's not consistent through all games. Or trying to find details on a community event.

HavocV3

It's always easy to jump in with a random comparison to a whole separate topic huh? Very well.

The things you mentioned are the niceties that XBL offers, but they were never a necessity. Why would anyone ever need a party to play Mass Effect 2 or Alan Wake, unless what they're really playing is MW2.

And of course I don't need to remind you that it's a paid service. If online gaming on the 360 wasn't restricted to gold members, everyone would jump ship to silver faster than you can say "bu...bu...but the cross game chat/invite?" It's also somewhat ironic that not having cross-game invite would be considered inconvenient but not disc swapping.

was he one to say disc swapping was actually convenient?

not seeing the relevancy here. but at least he hasn't turned cross-game invites into something laborious. like how swapping discs was such a 'chore' they said.

I'm assuming when you get cross-game invited you'd still have to swap your games, unless it just magically pops in there.

TrueSkill: developers get access to a proven skill-matching system that's been evolving ever since Halo 2, instead of having to roll their own.lowe0

GXgear i wasnt gonna comment but you been harpin on the same subject for 5 pages now. If the interface is so clean then that means either

A) your dl gaming collection is extremely limited

B) you just dont like paying for LIVE

i have both LIVE is better always has been better and if this paid service comes along and doesnt add a significant amount of content and reason to get it then it then LIVE will always be better

Now the interface thing that has been answered goes like this if you have over 30 dl games and demos then its gonna be problem cause you have to scroll through those games until i find the one i want to play. NXE remembers the last games i played and has them for quick reference in the my xbox section. Then in order for me to reach where the new content is i have to scroll alllllllllllllll the way to psn marketplace and click on it and make sure it loads up depending on your connection it can take 2-10 sec. then my favorite part looking for all the new stuff that came out cause even though they have gigantic billboards for them i also gotta go to said section of new stuff and look through both PS3 AND PSP stuff. Where do they do that at where you mix both PS3 and PSP stuff together for what reason does that make sense?

Short answer:

If you have friends, live is better

If you don't have friends, PSN is better

Cross game chat is HUGE

[QUOTE="lowe0"]TrueSkill: developers get access to a proven skill-matching system that's been evolving ever since Halo 2, instead of having to roll their own.anshul89

Ah, you've completely changed my mind with you're argument. gj

The features are great and everyone I know that plays games, have Live. The community and the features is what does it for me.

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

It's always easy to jump in with a random comparison to a whole separate topic huh? Very well.

The things you mentioned are the niceties that XBL offers, but they were never a necessity. Why would anyone ever need a party to play Mass Effect 2 or Alan Wake, unless what they're really playing is MW2.

And of course I don't need to remind you that it's a paid service. If online gaming on the 360 wasn't restricted to gold members, everyone would jump ship to silver faster than you can say "bu...bu...but the cross game chat/invite?" It's also somewhat ironic that not having cross-game invite would be considered inconvenient but not disc swapping.

Gxgear

was he one to say disc swapping was actually convenient?

not seeing the relevancy here. but at least he hasn't turned cross-game invites into something laborious. like how swapping discs was such a 'chore' they said.

I'm assuming when you get cross-game invited you'd still have to swap your games, unless it just magically pops in there.

The point in me bringing up the other things is that the convenience arguement between XMB and NXE is only part of the bigger picture which this whole thread is about.

Being able to form a party is great if everyone's playing something different but still want to chat a bit. Watching a movie, playing an arcade game, listening to music. Doesn't matter. Maybe eventually everyone wants launch into some co-op Left 4 Dead? What's the equivalent on the XMB? Home? The streamlined nature of the XMB doesn't make an iota of difference in this case.

The whole cross-game invite/disc swapping issue is a moot point considering the PS3 would require this as well... but in a more clunky way. Forget the fact that no disc swapping is needed for downloaded games. For all the simplicity you like in the XMB, cross-game invites can't be done on the PS3 in the same way as the 360.

Having to flip through a couple more panels VS actual functionality. That's what we're looking at here.

Back at the beginning of this gen, Live was miles ahead of PSN. As the PSN developed it gained a lot of the features that Live had, while still remaining free. Live is still better than PSN features wise, but the fact that they charge $50 a year for a service that is only "A little better" than its rival console that offers a free service and is still inferior to a free PC service doesn't say mcuh about it

BPoole96

I dont see why PS3 owners like to rant about Live having a subscription fee. It breaks down to about $4.10 a month to game on live. $4.10 !!!! We aren't talking a ton of cash. Many gamers pay to play online. Look at the HUGE World of Warcraft user base. (not to mention Sony is already talking about a PSN+ service at a charge)

NXE/Live blows XMB/PSN out of the water.

Almost everything loads faster on NXE.

- Games load faster, Market place loads faster, friends list load faster, user profiles, trophy list. (Don't get me started on the trophy list, tried to view my trophy list yesterday and it took 45 seconds for my trophys to 'sync'. You dont have to 'sync' anything on Live)

NXE has cross game chat and party system. All those 'annoying' kids you guys were talking about on Live easily goes away with the party system. Make a party, all your friends and join, and you can chat REGARDLESS if you guys are all playing the same game or not. Hell on PS3 even if you are playing the same game, but a different game mode you can't chat with your friends. On PSN you can only chat with the friend(s) that you are playing the game with. On Live you can chat with all your friends regardless.

Easier to get to messages on NXE/Live. If someone sends you a game invite or IM, you immediatly press the xbox button you are there. On psn you have to press PS button, navigate right, navigate up to your inbox, navigate to the messge. This is a very simple shortcut, and its annoying that PSN doesn't have it.

Live handles updates better than PSN. On live when the download has finished, the update is finished. On PSN you have to wait for it to download and then wait for it to install. It also works this way with demos, you wait to down load it, then you have to wait for it to install. On Live, when the demo is finished downloading, you can play it immediately.

Media Server functionality on NXE crushes PSN hands down.

Netflix on Live crushes PSN.

Live offers streaming music via LastFM (which i use alot)... PSN doesn't even offer a music service.

AND THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS IF YOU HAVE TO BUY A NEW PS3!!!!

My PS3 got the YLOD, and I had to buy a new one. When I did, it would not let me activate my userID/PS3 on the market place because it was tied to the ID of the dead PS3. I could not 'deactivate' my id on the old system because it was dead. I had to call sony and they said they would move my activation once, but next time there would be a charge. I was blown away, you mean I just paid $300 for a new system, and I am trying to give you even more money by renting movies from your marketplace, and you want to charge me to move my ID off a piece of YOUR hardware that died on me? WTF? Who is greedy now? It took 3 days to get my ID activated for the market place on my new PS3.

I have moved my ID to multiple xboxs without having to call support, and without any problems.

...and personally I just find the NXE menu navigation much nicer to use than PSN. PSN feels archaic, user profiles lookarchaic, and the overall experience feels clunky and pieced together.

NXE/Live even though it cost me $4.10 a month is just a better experience, and a joy to use.

text chat rooms > voice chat rooms

text chat rooms > voice chat rooms

Respawn-d