You guys are still eating up that hype Sony gave years ago.
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Hey what console currently has the better graphics?TintedEyesHey, why does that matter when PC is and will always be #1? Playing for #2 huh? Does that make sense?
[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]Truer words have never been spoken. Ahh....E3 2005, still makes me giggle.You guys are still eating up that hype Sony gave years ago.
Revan_911
Oh yeah, 120FPS with native 1080P resolution and textures... a bit hard to achieve that when you only got 256mb of gpu :P
[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Hey what console currently has the better graphics?peanutbudduhHey, why does that matter when PC is and will always be #1? Playing for #2 huh? Does that make sense? Did they promise graphics better than PC or did they promise amazing graphics? Seems like Sony delivered to me.
[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Hey what console currently has the better graphics?FIipModeHey, why does that matter when PC is and will always be #1? Playing for #2 huh? Does that make sense? Did they promise graphics better than PC or did they promise amazing graphics? Seems like Sony delivered to me. They promised CGI graphics.
[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Hey what console currently has the better graphics?FIipModeHey, why does that matter when PC is and will always be #1? Playing for #2 huh? Does that make sense? Did they promise graphics better than PC or did they promise amazing graphics? Seems like Sony delivered to me. Do you actually know what they promised? You have no idea.
^^ *looks at KZ2, U2, and GOW 3* yep...they delivered there promise of amazing graphics, though 120 fps, and native 1080p is "teh failz"
Well it's nice to see Devs are trying to push the PS3 to it's limits, can't help but get excitement in when we see something like GoW3, Ucharted2, and KZ2 ... these are amazing looking games that no one thought would be possible on the PS3 when the gen first started.
On top of that I can probably name every Hermit on this forum with one hand (exaggeration of course) so it's obvious why it seems like PS3 fanboys care more than Hermits.
[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Hey what console currently has the better graphics?peanutbudduhHey, why does that matter when PC is and will always be #1? Playing for #2 huh? Does that make sense? I have to be honest here. It's well-known that the PC can produce better visuals than any of the consoles; that said, I hate this whole "competing for #2" thing everyone always brings up. Why is competing for #2 such a bad thing? Look at any sport, pick one. Once somebody is at number one - let's say it's NASCAR, and Jeff Gordan has already passed finish line - everyone else doesn't just stop and say, "Well, we're not going to be #1, so it doesn't matter anymore." Now let's look at business, shall we? Apple is never going to be #1, but they don't stop because they're #2, do they? There's nothing wrong or illogical about competing for #2; in fact, there's probably more people at any one time in the world competing for #2 than there is competing for #1, since - in any given field - #1 is usually ahead by a large margin.
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] Did they promise graphics better than PC or did they promise amazing graphics? Seems like Sony delivered to me.FIipModeDo you actually know what they promised? You have no idea. Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
[QUOTE="sora16perfect"]and lems dont do the same?FIipModeYes but he want to act like only PS3 fanboys do it. Sure lems do it now and again, but cows talk it about graphics a lot more.
Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] Do you actually know what they promised? You have no idea. DoomZaW
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
Isn't Virtual Tennis 3 1080p lol?
And surely 120fps is pointless, when the human eye can't tell the difference?
[QUOTE="sora16perfect"]and lems dont do the same?FIipModeYes but he want to act like only PS3 fanboys do it.I hope you do not honestly think any of the 3 other groups including lems make near as many graphic threads as the cows do. Like I said though it is all that is left because anything not opinion based the PS3 is last.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.Ravensmash
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
Isn't Virtual Tennis 3 1080p lol?
And surely 120fps is pointless, when the human eye can't tell the difference?
probably yeah :P, just saying they have nowhere near delivered on the FPS promise. Nor the native 1080P in every game
[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]
[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.Ravensmash
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
Isn't Virtual Tennis 3 1080p lol?
And surely 120fps is pointless, when the human eye can't tell the difference?
Yet a second person today that I've had to correct about untrue statements regarding the human eye. This is starting to get rather disappointing, really. Here's an explanation about frames per second and the human eye.[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]
[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.Ravensmash
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
Isn't Virtual Tennis 3 1080p lol?
And surely 120fps is pointless, when the human eye can't tell the difference?
Yeah, maybe at 200 FPS you won't notice, but when you try to get a console or PC to run something at 200 FPS it's usually because the game's gonna go balls off the walls in actual gameplay.No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
DoomZaW
funny how all xbox fanboys cared about last gen was graphics and now they pretend like they don't care...unless it's a multiplatform game that is still less impressively than PS3's best exclusive games.
Microsoft failed to produce toy story graphics on the orginal xbox like they promised yet I don't see you quoting old comments from them...also none of that changed the fact that xbox had the best over-all graphics last gen did it? Just like your comments don't change the fact that PS3 still has be best over all graphics for console this gen :)
Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] Do you actually know what they promised? You have no idea. DoomZaW
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
So SSHD wasn't running 120fps on a PS3?[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="sora16perfect"]and lems dont do the same?SilentlyMadYes but he want to act like only PS3 fanboys do it.I hope you do not honestly think any of the 3 other groups including lems make near as many graphic threads as the cows do. Like I said though it is all that is left because anything not opinion based the PS3 is last. But lems still do it right???
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="DoomZaW"]
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
ritz2
Isn't Virtual Tennis 3 1080p lol?
And surely 120fps is pointless, when the human eye can't tell the difference?
Yeah, maybe at 200 FPS you won't notice, but when you try to get a console or PC to run something at 200 FPS it's usually because the game's gonna go balls off the walls in actual gameplay. From my linked article above: " The USAF, in testing their pilots for visual response time, used a simple test to see if the pilots could distinguish small changes in light. In their experiment a picture of an aircraft was flashed on a screen in a dark room at 1/220th of a second. Pilots were consistently able to "see" the afterimage as well as identify the aircraft. This simple and specific situation not only proves the ability to percieve 1 image within 1/220 of a second, but the ability to interpret higher FPS." This means that, at the very least, we could interpret 220 frames per second, probably more.[QUOTE="DoomZaW"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] Well this gen isn't over is it? So you can't say they failed on all their promises, but they did fulfill the 120 fps promise.FIipMode
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
So SSHD wasn't running 120fps on a PS3?Thats what I thought - the 3D one anyway.
probably yeah :P, just saying they have nowhere near delivered on the FPS promise. Nor the native 1080P in every game
DoomZaW
since you care so much about promises...
"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-250632.html
Just like your comments don't change the fact that PS3 still has be best over all graphics for console this gen :)playharderfool
how is that a fact? that's opinion. personally, i think RE5 is the best looking console game. because i said it, does it make it a fact? also, you seem to be bringing up graphics more than just about anyone else.
So SSHD wasn't running 120fps on a PS3?[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="DoomZaW"]
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
Nero_Paladin
Thats what I thought - the 3D one anyway.
It runs at 120FPS - 60FPS for each eye (in the 3D version).[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]
No, just no, there haven't been a single game that has EVER run at 120 FPS on a console, at ANY point during actual gameplay, let alone 1080P
playharderfool
funny how all xbox fanboys cared about last gen was graphics and now they pretend like they don't care...unless it's a multiplatform game that is still less impressively than PS3's best exclusive games.
Microsoft failed to produce toy story graphics on the orginal xbox like they promised yet I don't see you quoting old comments from them...also none of that changed the fact that xbox had the best over-all graphics last gen did it? Just like your comments don't change the fact that PS3 still has be best over all graphics for console this gen :)
hmmm, maybe because i didn't know? ;) i wasn't really attending E3's back in 2002, primarily because i only was 10 years old at the time. And yes, it doesn't take a genius to realize the ps3 has the best graphics on consoles this gen, but still, saying they lived up to what they promised back in 2005 is quite exaggerated, and saying that "insert ps3 exclusive here" looks better than crysis has been seen all too many times here on the forums, it does support the theory that ps3 fanboys are quite the big graphic whores
[QUOTE="playharderfool"] Just like your comments don't change the fact that PS3 still has be best over all graphics for console this gen :)
clone01
how is that a fact? that's opinion. personally, i think RE5 is the best looking console game. because i said it, does it make it a fact? also, you seem to be bringing up graphics more than just about anyone else.
Not its not opinion. You can measure detail therefore you can measure quality.[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]
probably yeah :P, just saying they have nowhere near delivered on the FPS promise. Nor the native 1080P in every game
since you care so much about promises...
"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-250632.html
so you've countered one inflated press comment with another? what argument are you trying to get across here?Not its not opinion. You can measure detail therefore you can measure quality.RadecSupreme
how, by comparing screenshots? i don't understand here. unless you're referring to technical screen resolution, graphics are subjective. if they weren't there wouldn't be 20 SW graphics threads a day.
I find it quite odd how 360 fanboys only use HALO and "weve got more people online so its BETTER" argument every time. (maybe ounce in a while they will pop out mass effect 2 or something)
TC you should blog it definetly. Vent your frustration.
Szminsky
I've done that, see the latest, the relief is only short term. You go back to the forums and have a Cow yell at you, because you dared to suggest PS3 should use its resources for more than just graphics.
Cows are at a point where they hear about Sony freeing up 70mb ram from the OS; and their first reactions is "woot more eye candy". I remind them that Vram is the graphics memory but they don't care, every spec of resources must priorities graphics.
[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]Not its not opinion. You can measure detail therefore you can measure quality.
clone01
how, by comparing screenshots? i don't understand here. unless you're referring to technical screen resolution, graphics are subjective. if they weren't there wouldn't be 20 SW graphics threads a day.
You can objectively compare polygon count, texture resolution, frames per second, draw distance, number of lights rendered simultaneously, amount of objects rendered concurrently... The problem is that nobody is going to do enough research to compare graphics objectively, and not all of these numbers are easy for the general public to come by. It's not that graphics CANNOT be compared objectively; it's just that they very rarely WILL be compared objectively.Well it's nice to see Devs are trying to push the PS3 to it's limits, can't help but get excitement in when we see something like GoW3, Ucharted2, and KZ2 ... these are amazing looking games that no one thought would be possible on the PS3 when the gen first started.
On top of that I can probably name every Hermit on this forum with one hand (exaggeration of course) so it's obvious why it seems like PS3 fanboys care more than Hermits.
There are lots of hermits, they just don't spam the board with graphics threads like cows do.[QUOTE="Szminsky"]
TC you should blog it definetly. Vent your frustration.
AnnoyedDragon
I've done that, see the latest, the relief is only short term. You go back to the forums and have a Cow yell at you, because you dared to suggest PS3 should use its resources for more than just graphics.
Cows are at a point where they hear about Sony freeing up 70mb ram from the OS; and their first reactions is "woot more eye candy". I remind them that Vram is the graphics memory but they don't care, every spec of resources must priorities graphics.
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