I guarantee that Mass Effect & GeOW will come on PS3 at some point

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#1 Swift_Boss_A
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Well lets start with Mass Effect, the company Bioware is now owned by EA and never in a million years will EA allow Bioware to make the Mass Effect franchise exclusive on 360. Now GeOW, Epic are not owned by Microsoft they are a independant company and I am certain that GeOW will make it to the PS3 at some point.

Also Bizarre are now ownedby Activision meaning Project Gotham is also certain to appear on PS3 along with any game Bungie creates. Microsoft don't own Bungie if Bungie wanted to they can create any game they wanted to on PS3. Sure Bungie might give special treatement to Microsoft like 6 month exclusivity but they will definitely make games for the PS3.

Sure those companies might have a fanbase on 360 but that doesn't mean they can not create one for the PS3. I am honestly amazed at how much Microsoft has lost this year, they were prepared for the first quarter of this gen, lets see how theydo on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Let me just say it one more time.

I guarantee that at some point in this gen Mass Effect, GeOW will come on PS3 along with games created by Bungie & Bizzare.

You can sig me if you like 8)

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I can promise you something: no.
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#3 Swift_Boss_A
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oh and have look at this weeks bonus round :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/bonusround.php

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Well lets start with Mass Effect, the company Bioware is now owned by EA and never in a million years will EA allow Bioware to make the Mass Effect franchise exclusive on 360. Now GeOW, Epic are not owned by Microsoft they are a independant company and I am certain that GeOW will make it to the PS3 at some point.

Also Bizarre are now ownedby Activision meaning Project Gotham is also certain to appear on PS3 along with any game Bungie creates. Microsoft don't own Bungie if Bungie wanted to they can create any game they wanted to on PS3. Sure Bungie might give special treatement to Microsoft like 6 month exclusivity but they will definitely make games for the PS3.

Sure those companies might have a fanbase on 360 but that doesn't mean they can not create one for the PS3. I am honestly amazed at how much Microsoft has lost this year, they were prepared for the first quarter of this gen, lets see how theydo on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Let me just say it one more time.

I guarantee that at some point in this gen Mass Effect, GeOW will come on PS3 along with games created by Bungie & Bizzare.

You can sig me if you like 8)

Swift_Boss_A

Using your logic, the same can be said about MGS, Final Fantasy, Uncharted etc etc.

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#5 Super-Penguin
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i am pretty sure they are both developed by Microsoft Game Studios, so no that will never happen
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#6 ZeroPunctuation
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Gears and Mass Effect are published by Microsoft i think
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#7 XaosII
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Thats some really, really wishful thinking. Dont get your hopes up.

Your examples have very little backing. BioWare has been just a PC-Xbox company. EA has several high profile exclusive titles. EPIC are still testing the waters with UT 3, and to make those claims, is being way too optimistic.

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Awww, Sony fans want Xbox 360 games.:oops: I guess Sony's not givin' 'em the goods. :(
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#9 ski11buzz
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Gears and Mass Effect are published by Microsoft i thinkZeroPunctuation

Gears 1 & 2 are. so is mass effect one, not the franchise

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#10 Zaxro
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Mass effect 2 and 3 maybe, though not very likely at all. mass Effect 1 has less of a chance going to Ps3 than FF13 to 360, same with Gears considering they are both published by Microsoft (though ME will be on PCs within a few years I would wager).
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Awww, Sony fans want Xbox 360 games.:oops: I guess Sony's not givin' 'em the goods. :(BioShockOwnz

Not really, I just though it was a good change since I alwayssee 360 fans always begging for FF13 & MGS4. oh and have you see the latest bonus round on gametrailers ?

Bungie are not owned by Microsoft anymore, EA owns Bioware, Activision owns Bizzare, Epic are independant. There is nothing stopping those companies to make those mentioned games multiplat.

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#12 whocares4peace
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PGR is owned by MS, not Bizzare.

MS has a right of 1st refusal for Bungie games, which means none of them will end up on the ps3 anytime soon.

Gears 2 is published by MS, as MS and Epic have a 2 game exclusivity contract.

Try harder next time.

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Bioware was 3rd party before and they never catered to Sony. Why would it be any different under EA? >_>
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Awww, Sony fans want Xbox 360 games.:oops: I guess Sony's not givin' 'em the goods. :(Swift_Boss_A

Not really, I just though it was a good change since I alwayssee 360 fans always begging for FF13 & MGS4. oh and have you see the latest bonus round on gametrailers ?

Bungie are not owned by Microsoft anymore, EA owns Bioware, Activision owns Bizzare, Epic are independant. There is nothing stopping those companies to make those mentioned games multiplat.

I love how Sony fans always try to put a spin on it and say XBOX owners are begging for titles like FFXIII and MGS4. It's not begging. It's using logic to state that there is a possibility, and without those titles, the PS3 is dead.

XBOX 360 has Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, and Mass Effect. Why would they need to 'beg' for titles? With your logic, Sony fans beg for Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, and Mass Effect.

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#15 istreakforfood
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whats the point? not like cows are going to buy those games. just waste of time being ported.

they arent even buying sonys 1st/2nd exclusive games.

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#16 SuperVegeta518
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Your post is so rediculous that I don't even know where to start.
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#17 kcpp2b
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PGR is owned by MS, not Bizzare.

MS has a right of 1st refusal for Bungie games, which means none of them will end up on the ps3 anytime soon.

Gears 2 is published by MS, as MS and Epic have a 2 game exclusivity contract.

Try harder next time.

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MS owns a part of Bungie still.... would be funny if bungie made a game for PS3 being that MS would make money too off it since they own a small part of Bungie

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#18 100Gamer
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:lol: lol why not just buy a 360 if you want those games that bad :?

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it's not happening....
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#20 TheEndBoss
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Both Mass Effect and Gears of War are published by Microsoft Game Studios. Unless Microsoft decides for some reason that they want to help their competition....it's not going to happen. Sequels not published by Microsoft? Possibly. Ports of Mass Effect and Gears of War? Out of the question.
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#21 Private_Vegas
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Yeah,Mass Effect will definitly wind up on Playstation. Just like KotoR 1 & 2, and Jade Empire.
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#22 Blue-Sphere
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Your post is so rediculous that I don't even know where to start.SuperVegeta518
I agree.
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Gears of war wont come to ps3, thats fact. Mass effect might.
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#24 DrinkDuff
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Awww, Sony fans want Xbox 360 games.:oops: I guess Sony's not givin' 'em the goods. :(Swift_Boss_A

Not really, I just though it was a good change since I alwayssee 360 fans always begging for FF13 & MGS4. oh and have you see the latest bonus round on gametrailers ?

Bungie are not owned by Microsoft anymore, EA owns Bioware, Activision owns Bizzare, Epic are independant. There is nothing stopping those companies to make those mentioned games multiplat.

They have all already discussed that their games would remain on MS platforms.
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Microsoft own the rights to Gears of War; at the very least the first one. So at best, you're getting sequels. They also published Mass Effect, so same deal there.

As for Bungie, microsoft's agreement in making it an independent studio was that they retain the rights to the halo franchise, and have priority in publishing any bungie games; in other words, microsoft get first dibs. Bungie games will only appear on the PS3 is microsoft decide they dont want to publish it.

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#26 the_h_bomb
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:lol: yeah because we all know how good software sales are on that failure.
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#27 MrSickVisionz
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Using your logic, the same can be said about MGS, Final Fantasy, Uncharted etc etc.Nonam3gamer

^ You beat me to the punch. As long as mutli-plat games keep selling way more on the 360, there will always be a huge allure for developers to take games multi-plat. And why not? You can potentially double (or triple in the case of Call of Duty 4) your sales.

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#28 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Awww, Sony fans want Xbox 360 games.:oops: I guess Sony's not givin' 'em the goods. :(Apathetic-Irony

Not really, I just though it was a good change since I alwayssee 360 fans always begging for FF13 & MGS4. oh and have you see the latest bonus round on gametrailers ?

Bungie are not owned by Microsoft anymore, EA owns Bioware, Activision owns Bizzare, Epic are independant. There is nothing stopping those companies to make those mentioned games multiplat.

I love how Sony fans always try to put a spin on it and say XBOX owners are begging for titles like FFXIII and MGS4. It's not begging. It's using logic to state that there is a possibility, and without those titles, the PS3 is dead.

XBOX 360 has Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, and Mass Effect. Why would they need to 'beg' for titles? With your logic, Sony fans beg for Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, and Mass Effect.

Um, begging and wanting are two different things. We may want , well I may want Metal Gear solid 4, but will it comes, mostly likely not. If it came on some whim of a broken fate's slot machine, it be great, but hopeful wishing stopped long ago. You may want such titles, but are you willing to say you beg for them as well?

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#29 club-sandwich
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Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, MGS IV, and FFXIII are coming to X360 too. :|
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It's more likely that their sequels would go multiplat then the originals, but even that is wishful thinking.
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#31 100Gamer
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:lol: yeah because we all know how good software sales are on that failure. the_h_bomb

ouch, there's some harsh ownage :lol:

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#32 Swift_Boss_A
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2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

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Epic said that Gears can not be done on the PS3. Keep dreaming :lol:.
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Well lets start with Mass Effect, the company Bioware is now owned by EA and never in a million years will EA allow Bioware to make the Mass Effect franchise exclusive on 360. Now GeOW, Epic are not owned by Microsoft they are a independant company and I am certain that GeOW will make it to the PS3 at some point.

Also Bizarre are now ownedby Activision meaning Project Gotham is also certain to appear on PS3 along with any game Bungie creates. Microsoft don't own Bungie if Bungie wanted to they can create any game they wanted to on PS3. Sure Bungie might give special treatement to Microsoft like 6 month exclusivity but they will definitely make games for the PS3.

Sure those companies might have a fanbase on 360 but that doesn't mean they can not create one for the PS3. I am honestly amazed at how much Microsoft has lost this year, they were prepared for the first quarter of this gen, lets see how theydo on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Let me just say it one more time.

I guarantee that at some point in this gen Mass Effect, GeOW will come on PS3 along with games created by Bungie & Bizzare.

You can sig me if you like 8)

Nonam3gamer

Using your logic, the same can be said about MGS, Final Fantasy, Uncharted etc etc.

Exactly, thread is instafail
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[QUOTE="Nonam3gamer"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Well lets start with Mass Effect, the company Bioware is now owned by EA and never in a million years will EA allow Bioware to make the Mass Effect franchise exclusive on 360. Now GeOW, Epic are not owned by Microsoft they are a independant company and I am certain that GeOW will make it to the PS3 at some point.

Also Bizarre are now ownedby Activision meaning Project Gotham is also certain to appear on PS3 along with any game Bungie creates. Microsoft don't own Bungie if Bungie wanted to they can create any game they wanted to on PS3. Sure Bungie might give special treatement to Microsoft like 6 month exclusivity but they will definitely make games for the PS3.

Sure those companies might have a fanbase on 360 but that doesn't mean they can not create one for the PS3. I am honestly amazed at how much Microsoft has lost this year, they were prepared for the first quarter of this gen, lets see how theydo on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Let me just say it one more time.

I guarantee that at some point in this gen Mass Effect, GeOW will come on PS3 along with games created by Bungie & Bizzare.

You can sig me if you like 8)

Taz-Bone

Using your logic, the same can be said about MGS, Final Fantasy, Uncharted etc etc.

Exactly, thread is instafail

*sigh* Japanese developers are loyal compared to American developers and Uncharted is 1st party meaning owned by Sony.

  • Bungie left
  • Epic are independant
  • Bioware owned by EA a multiplat heavy company
  • Bizarre owned by Activision another multiplat heavy company

hey atleast you guys still got Rare :lol:

Certainly a GeOW or Mass Effect game will make it to the PS3 sometime in this gen

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2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

Swift_Boss_A
What part of GeOW 2 will be published by MS do you not understand?
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#37 DrinkDuff
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2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

Swift_Boss_A
You can bet all you want, doesn't mean it will actually happen,
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*sigh* Japanese developers are loyal compared to American developers and Uncharted is 1st party meaning owned by Sony.

  • Bungie left
  • Epic are independant
  • Bioware owned by EA a multiplat heavy company
  • Bizarre owned by Activision another multiplat heavy company

hey atleast you guys still got Rare :lol:

Certainly a GeOW or Mass Effect game will make it to the PS3 sometime in this gen

Swift_Boss_A

Ace combat 6 is now on the 360 exclusively.

Final Fantasy 11 migrated to the 360.

Ridge Racer migrated to the 360.

Itagaki went from "i wont work with any other console" to ps3 as well as 360.

What about loyal japanese developers again? :roll:

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#39 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

whocares4peace

What part of GeOW 2 will be published by MS do you not understand?

No wrong, EA will publish ME2, what part of EA owns Bioware do you not understand !

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[QUOTE="Taz-Bone"][QUOTE="Nonam3gamer"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Well lets start with Mass Effect, the company Bioware is now owned by EA and never in a million years will EA allow Bioware to make the Mass Effect franchise exclusive on 360. Now GeOW, Epic are not owned by Microsoft they are a independant company and I am certain that GeOW will make it to the PS3 at some point.

Also Bizarre are now ownedby Activision meaning Project Gotham is also certain to appear on PS3 along with any game Bungie creates. Microsoft don't own Bungie if Bungie wanted to they can create any game they wanted to on PS3. Sure Bungie might give special treatement to Microsoft like 6 month exclusivity but they will definitely make games for the PS3.

Sure those companies might have a fanbase on 360 but that doesn't mean they can not create one for the PS3. I am honestly amazed at how much Microsoft has lost this year, they were prepared for the first quarter of this gen, lets see how theydo on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Let me just say it one more time.

I guarantee that at some point in this gen Mass Effect, GeOW will come on PS3 along with games created by Bungie & Bizzare.

You can sig me if you like 8)

Swift_Boss_A

Using your logic, the same can be said about MGS, Final Fantasy, Uncharted etc etc.

Exactly, thread is instafail

*sigh* Japanese developers are loyal compared to American developers and Uncharted is 1st party meaning owned by Sony.

  • Bungie left
  • Epic are independant
  • Bioware owned by EA a multiplat heavy company
  • Bizarre owned by Activision another multiplat heavy company

hey atleast you guys still got Rare :lol:

Certainly a GeOW or Mass Effect game will make it to the PS3 sometime in this gen

Like who? Capcom?
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#41 svp0123
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it looks true.

they lost

bioware - creators of kotor and mass effect.

bungie - creators of halo.

epic - they never had but gears of war wont stay single platform forever.

then the only AAA good exclusive they have is bioshock and if they make a second one ps3 will probably get that.

i think the more multiplatforms the better. maybe MS and Sony can work together to unite blu ray and HD DVD technology and the PS and the XB with one monster system.

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#42 omgimba
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The GEOW thing makes no sence at all.. It wont come for PS3 MS got lots of stringsa too pull there.

And I think there is an agreement of exclusitivity (is that a word?) for ME.otherwise it will go too PS3 aswell.

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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

Swift_Boss_A

What part of GeOW 2 will be published by MS do you not understand?

No wrong, EA will publish ME2, what part of EA owns Bioware do you not understand !

Reading comprehension FTW?

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#44 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

*sigh* Japanese developers are loyal compared to American developers and Uncharted is 1st party meaning owned by Sony.

  • Bungie left
  • Epic are independant
  • Bioware owned by EA a multiplat heavy company
  • Bizarre owned by Activision another multiplat heavy company

hey atleast you guys still got Rare :lol:

Certainly a GeOW or Mass Effect game will make it to the PS3 sometime in this gen

Ninja-Vox

Ace combat 6 is now on the 360 exclusively.

Final Fantasy 11 migrated to the 360.

Ridge Racer migrated to the 360.

Itagaki went from "i wont work with any other console" to ps3 as well as 360.

What about loyal japanese developers again? :roll:

lol Team Ninja have always created 360 exclusive games and last gen Namco has also.

I 'm talking about the Japanese big-wigs like Konami (Kojima Productions) and Square Enix, they will never let their definitive franchises arive on the 360.

oh and FF11 was hardly a mainstream FF game

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#45 whocares4peace
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*sigh* Japanese developers are loyal compared to American developers and Uncharted is 1st party meaning owned by Sony.

  • Bungie left
  • Epic are independant
  • Bioware owned by EA a multiplat heavy company
  • Bizarre owned by Activision another multiplat heavy company

hey atleast you guys still got Rare :lol:

Certainly a GeOW or Mass Effect game will make it to the PS3 sometime in this gen

Swift_Boss_A

Capcom had plenty of Sony exclusives last gen. Now pretty much all thier games are multiplatform, or 360 exclusive(Dead Rising0 or Wii exclsuive(Zack and Wiki, Re:UC). Hell they're so loyal to Sony, they even cancelled a ps3 exclusive, Monster Hunter 3 and put it on the Wii,

Now on to Namco. Every Namco game except Tekken 6 is multiplatform(Eternal Sonata, Soul Calibur4) or 360 exclusive(Ace Combat, Katamari)

Finally Squre Enix, last gen they had no xbox games. This time they have 3 360 games, 1 of them being an exclusive. So explain to me how Japanese Devs are apprently so loyal.

And yes, Bungie left, but now MS has the right of first refusal. Bungie cant put a game out for the ps3 until MS gives the green light. I'm sure that'll happen. :roll:

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#46 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

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What part of GeOW 2 will be published by MS do you not understand?

No wrong, EA will publish ME2, what part of EA owns Bioware do you not understand !

Reading comprehension FTW?

damn sorry :P I had ME in my mind while reading.

We will see if GeOW2 ens up being an exclusive, from what I can GeOW in some form will definitely come on PS3, maybe a port sdown the road or whatever.

p.s. So GeOW3 is PS3 certain then :D

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#47 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

Swift_Boss_A

What part of GeOW 2 will be published by MS do you not understand?

No wrong, EA will publish ME2, what part of EA owns Bioware do you not understand !

Reading comprehension FTW?

damn sorry :P I had ME in my mind while reading.

We will see if GeOW2 ens up being an exclusive, from what I can GeOW in some form will definitely come on PS3, maybe a port sdown the road or whatever.

p.s. So GeOW3 is PS3 certain then :D

No it's not, what the hell is wrong with you? They're would be no point in porting Gears 3 to the PS3 because PS3 owners wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the story and also a low attach rate for each console. I'm pretty sure Microsoft is going to buy the rights to publish these games later.

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#48 DrinkDuff
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*sigh* Japanese developers are loyal compared to American developers and Uncharted is 1st party meaning owned by Sony.

Swift_Boss_A
What makes you so sure? Sony has been confirmed to lose exclusives, where as every claim about the 360 losing exclusives is coming out of the rumor mill, and they have yet to actually lose any exclusivity. You don't know for sure that Bungie will make games for the PS3. Mass Effect is published by MS, and GEOW 2 IP is owned by MS. You are going off pure speculation, and the only developer that actually has any room to do anything, is Bungie. But they have already stated that they are focusing their development on the 360, and that they became independent for more creative freedom.
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#49 whocares4peace
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

2nd 3rd outing on those games will definitely make it on the PS3, I bet on it

Swift_Boss_A

What part of GeOW 2 will be published by MS do you not understand?

No wrong, EA will publish ME2, what part of EA owns Bioware do you not understand !

Reading comprehension FTW?

damn sorry :P I had ME in my mind while reading.

We will see if GeOW2 ens up being an exclusive, from what I can GeOW in some form will definitely come on PS3, maybe a port sdown the road or whatever.

p.s. So GeOW3 is PS3 certain then :D

GeOW 3 would be for the ps4, not the ps3.
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#50 Swift_Boss_A
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They're would be no point in porting Gears 3 to the PS3 because PS3 owners wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the story and also a low attach rate for each console. I'm pretty sure Microsoft is going to buy the rights to publish these games later.Juggernaut140

wow you know I would love to borrow your crystal ball, its amazing how you can tell that PS3 will stay the way it is for all of this gen.