I hated GTA4, popped it in to play it again after months and...

Hated it even more... What a peice of garbage this game is... The only reason im making this thread is because I want logical discussion and understanding as to how this game got the praise it did. forget the gamespot 10, just over all how did no one call this game out on the terrible broken gameplay the horrible cell phone interface and the wonky infuriating physics? I know its years after the fact and GTA4 has been eclipsed by dozens upon dozens of games, but truly this is one of the worst games I have played this generation. I gave it an 8.5 when it released... its way worse now. anyone agree? I know im not taking crazy pills.

I have a hard time believing that it's one of the worst games you've played this generation.

Hated it even more... What a peice of garbage this game is... The only reason im making this thread is because I want logical discussion and understanding as to how this game got the praise it did. forget the gamespot 10, just over all how did no one call this game out on the terrible broken gameplay the horrible cell phone interface and the wonky infuriating physics? I know its years after the fact and GTA4 has been eclipsed by dozens upon dozens of games, but truly this is one of the worst games I have played this generation. I gave it an 8.5 when it released... its way worse now. anyone agree? I know im not taking crazy pills.

TheEroica

Guess it's just hard to please people. I really enjoyed it :)

GTA4 was a fine game, i just felt like it was a massive step backwards from san andreas.

lack of checkpoint itself makes it a huge letdownfunsohng

agreed, its one of the major reason why i think this game sucks along with other games that have pathetic checkpoint system (Resistance FoM)

I liked GTA4 up until the plot twist in Algonquin with the GF. Otherwise I have no idea how it scored a 10 here or anywhere else. All the characters except Niko are annoying, the mission design is terrible because of a lack of checkpoints, and cops are so annoyingly aggressive at times it just makes me want to get arrested. I'm not one to complain about difficulty, but GTA4's difficulty isn't the "omg this is so hard I want to beat it so bad though," its the "omg this is so frustrating this isn't even fun screw this I quit" difficulty.

I loved GTA4, especially the story. Yea, it had problems like any other game, but it was one of the best games i played so far.navyguy21

Same here. Nico was awesome just like most of the cast.

Um, I'm not a GTA fan at all. I stop playing all GTA games after like maybe an hour. But I like GTA IV. I was so impressed by the fact that I could sit there and browse the internet and watch their in-game television set and actually be entertained. I could go and watch a stand up set by a digitized Kat Williams in the comedy club, or listen to talk radio. There was plenty of stuff to do, plenty of places to go, a massive city, an expansive, open-ended story full of choices and completely non-linear gameplay. I'm not a fan of open-ended games, but GTA IV was an excellent game. To say otherwise is to miss the point.... This is one bandwagon I'm definitely not jumping on...Brownesque

The attention to detail in the city was awesome, and it was a great technical achievement. It's just that they forgot to make the most important part of the game fun. I wouldn't really say the game is nonlinear when a great deal of missions force you to drive somewhere and shoot a bunch of people, then drive back. Even worse, they failed to make the linearity fun with the lack of checkpoints and the somewhat unintuitive shooting.

I love Gta 4 thats just me . I like Red Dead Redemption Better though..

It improved greatly in some areas. The AI isn't as downright retarded as it was in previous games (remember the sped-up cars in San Andreas), and it seemed like they actually took a step back and tried to make the features in the game work instead of just throwing in as many half-assed features as possible like they did in SA. I do dislike the lack of proper character customisation, but the combat is better (though still far from remarkable) and the missions are more interesting and less quirky. They should've added a checkpoint system as there's still too much outdated. So in the end I think it's the most polished GTA (save the poor PC optimisation) and the most mature one gameplay-wise, yet for some reason it's just not as fun as GTA III and SA, which were quirky, buggy games like pretty much everything else produced by Rockstar, but compensated with tons and tons of charm. GTA IV lacks the random in-your-face humour from the previous games, and takes itself way too seriously with Niko Bellic's terrible character development, lousy radio stations and an annoying buddy system.

I gave it an 8.5 in the end (you can read my user review in my profile) because it does take the GTA series to a new level, yet compensates a lot in terms of charm and fun.

I thought it was a great game on consoles. The pc version is another story though...

I rememer the bank robbery level it was really frustrating that it wasn't funny.johny300

Hated it even more... What a peice of garbage this game is... The only reason im making this thread is because I want logical discussion and understanding as to how this game got the praise it did. forget the gamespot 10, just over all how did no one call this game out on the terrible broken gameplay the horrible cell phone interface and the wonky infuriating physics? I know its years after the fact and GTA4 has been eclipsed by dozens upon dozens of games, but truly this is one of the worst games I have played this generation. I gave it an 8.5 when it released... its way worse now. anyone agree? I know im not taking crazy pills.

TheEroica

Agreed. It was the reason I bought a next-gen console (just like GTAIII was the reason I bought a PS2) but when I got it I didn't think it was that bad because it was the first game I had played in ages. Like you i went back to it recently and couldn't get over how much it sucked. Like somebody said previously itt, yes it's a huge technical achievement and the amount of things happening at any given moment in the city is impressive; but it's just not FUN. Story wise, the missions are disgustingly repetitive. Gameplay wise, the controls are way too slow and clunky (sensitivity high is like low sensitivity for other games) and the framerate is horrible. It's a very overrated game, I'm with you 100% I just hope R* dump this style and go back to making games like San Andreas/Vice City but it's unlikely based on how much they've invested in making that engine.

I did think Niko was a very original and refreshing character though.

It takes getting used to, but after you get over that it's a very good game a 9/10 in my book. I hated it just as much as you at first and then I stopped playing for a few months and when I came back I finished the game and the story was amazing as well. Also after trying Saints Row 2 that made me realize how amazing GTA4 really was lol

every one say the same even some people that work in gaming webs still every one kiss rock star ass , i think gta 4 is boring is a game with less stuff than hes predecessor,dull minigames , the story is predictable and annoying ,texture pop in , less weapons , no tanks , no planes , and the shooting mechanics are much worst than San Andreas

[QUOTE="johny300"]I rememer the bank robbery level it was really frustrating that it wasn't funny.navyguy21

It's just the fact that it has no checkpoints.rcignoni

[QUOTE="rcignoni"]It's just the fact that it has no checkpoints.spliffstar12

If it needs to handicap the player with something so stupid as removing checkpoints to be hard, then something is wrong with the game. That's not challenge, that's just frustrating.

All GTA games are garbage not only GTA4, i dun get how they sell.

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"][QUOTE="rcignoni"]It's just the fact that it has no checkpoints.Upparoom

If it needs to handicap the player with something so stupid as removing checkpoints to be hard, then something is wrong with the game. That's not challenge, that's just frustrating.

It was a freakin' Down Grade, I mean from San Andreas to freakin' GTA4......It was sad.

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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"] You don't even need checkpoints it auto saves when you beat a mission and if you fail you start at the beginning of the mission. If you had checkpoints it would probably be the easiest game in the world. This is the only gta game i beat without cheats.Parasomniac

If it needs to handicap the player with something so stupid as removing checkpoints to be hard, then something is wrong with the game. That's not challenge, that's just frustrating.

I never played the originals, sorry. GTA4 has much more problems with it's missions than lack of checkpoints, though.

San Andreas was a lot better

San Andreas was a lot better

thelastguy

Yeah, i consider San Andreas to be the pinnacle of the GTA series, trully a incredibly fun game. But only for now. Just like GTA III first appeared, and like VC and SA improved on it, the same will happen, hopefully, with GTA IV, and with later installments improve on it..

I dislike the game due to its way of taking itself to seriously, and fails. No fun at all.. i couldnt even finish it. Unfortunatelly, though i really tried to like it.. , i can't help but say to my self that this is the worst GTA game.