I have proof 360 is a tad more powerful then PS3.

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

But the PS3 has teh cell!! It has teh cell!!Dr_Snood

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

SeanDiff

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

SeanDiff

[QUOTE="SeanDiff"]

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

Unforgiven2870

definatelyzz lost odyssey lukz beta dan ny odr gamezzz on PS3.obamanian_dfool

[QUOTE="obamanian_dfool"]definatelyzz lost odyssey lukz beta dan ny odr gamezzz on PS3.NYrockinlegend

[QUOTE="SeanDiff"]

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

bdum_pshhh

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"][QUOTE="SeanDiff"]

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

rorskarch

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

PAL360

Killzone2 VS Gears2 = Apples VS Bananas! How about use multiplats as comparation?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

___gamemaster__

Killzone2 VS Gears2 = Apples VS Bananas! How about use multiplats as comparation?

multiplats doesnt mean anything interms of console capabilites. some bad multiplats is just a result of a bad port.

what he said was senseless, I havent read something that dumb in a long time.

[QUOTE="sasapac"]

[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

360 GPU>>>RSX this is a fact that can not be disputed. But what still remains the catch is if the Cell is hype or nothing special at all?

ronjon_09

prove me that the gpu of the 360 is better that the ps3's gpu. killzone 2 is the console graphics king followed by metal gear solid 4 which are both ps3 exclusives. how can you say that 360's gpu is better that ps3's gpu?

so if 360's gpu is better than ps3's gpu howcan you explain why killzone 2, ps3 exclusive, is the graphics king right now?

RSX is based off of older tech. And the 360 GPU is based off of newer tech that Nvidia went with later in there newer PC cards. This ia FACT. Not to mention the 360 GPU has slight direct X 10 capibilities. Also not to mention the 360 GPU has 10mbimbeded ram this is why we see games with better AA in 360 versions. Oh and also the 360 GPU has an onboard physics capibility. This is all fact not by me but by the GPU's themselfs. Do some research.

so how can you exclain why killzone 2, a ps3 exclusive, is the graphics king right now?

The GPU in the X360 is slightly better than the PS3's, this is no news. And the fact that the X360 also have a much easier system to develop games on also gives it the edge. But the improvements the PS3 has shown these last years really shows it has more power combined. I think the Cell has the power to handle more work at once compared to the CPU in the X360, and it can also at the same time help out the RSX GPU.

This of course requires more work and time from developers to achieve, but it really shows. I think Sony developers, (specially Naughty dog, Guerilla) have learned a lot these last years on how to exploit the Cell. Naughty Dog was the first out to use the Cell differently, and after Uncharted they have helped out other developers. These two machines are close, but at the end the PS3 will have the best looking games.

XBOX 360's graphics power house greatly reflects it's superior hardware.

No comment.

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Killzone2 VS Gears2 = Apples VS Bananas! How about use multiplats as comparation?

ZoomZoom2490

multiplats doesnt mean anything interms of console capabilites. some bad multiplats is just a result of a bad port.

what he said was senseless, I havent read something that dumb in a long time.

I love how cows hate the idea of using multiplats as prove! :lol:

Anyway, dont you guys find odd the fact that after 3 years devs still cant make PS3 multiplats as good as 360 ones? It looks more like a cheap excuse that worked in 2006/7 but for sure not in 09!

O you could go to any other interview, and take any other thing out of context .......People just talk out of their ass don't listen to people, I'd just go by how good the games look and how fun they are, does it matter which one is more powerful? no.......

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"][QUOTE="SeanDiff"]

So the PS3 has been out shorter, is harder to develop for, and is, apparently, less powerful, yet it still holds the console graphics king this gen.

rorskarch

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"] yup, it's a real failure in every way.PAL360

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

Where are your sources retard It's pretty obvious that the PS3's Cell Engine is majorly superior. Honnestly, it makes the 360's processor look last gen. Somehow I still believe 360 fanboys are in denial of PS3's computer power. More flexible RAM? They both have 512 mb shared between 2 tasks. However the 360's Ram is snailing away at 700mhz Whilst the PS3's Ram is far ahead with 3200mhz. The Cellengine can do 3 trillion calculations per second, did you know the 360's Xenon can't even do 1 trillion? However the Xenon and Cell run at the same speed of 3.2ghz, sadly enough for you SPE's run faster than cores at a dedicated task such as gaming. And the PS3 has 7 SPE's supposed to 360's 3 cores. As for the GPU, the 360's GPU is under 1 TeraFlop, Erm, 700GFlops I think. PS3 delievers a crushing blow once more with a 1.8 TeraFlop performance Graphics card. (The ATI 4870X2 is 2.1 TFLOPS). But lets just put a side those silly calculations and mhz speed and mb of memory okay? Still don't think the PS3 is more powerful? Xbox360 1 TeraFlop overall float performance (WEAK) PS3 : 2 TeraFlops overall float performance (POWERFUL) Nuff said.

"A LINK TO ALL YOUR INFO PLEASE "

However even if all your spec information is 100% correct, The PS3 has been out for well over 2 years now and yet certain multiplats still look and play better on 360, so how do you explain that ? Ya' know since the PS3 is so much more powerful, then why isn't it's multiplat games far superior looking and playing then 360's versions ? Two recent examples i can name is Tiger Woods 09 and Fallout 3 each of those games are so much better than there PS3 counterparts and even rated higher by most reviewers. So again i ask when does your superior PS3 spec list come into play ?, when will dev's use this all powerful hardware of yours to actually make superior games to 360's ?

Xbox 360 - 1 teraflop overall float performance ( still superior looking and playing games to PS3)

PS3 - 2 Teraflops overall float performance ( Has made zero difference in multiplats against 360 )

Nuff said.

both are pretty much equal with their own advantages and disadvantages.

Kandlegoat

Even if it was, I could care less.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="rorskarch"] how can you honestly believe 360 is more powerful :?GearsOfWarLover

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

Im just saying that 1 exclusive that was in development for 4 years is not a better prove that some powerhouses multiplats like Farcry2, Assassins Creed or Resident Evil 5. I seriously think both are capable of the same graphics :roll:

[QUOTE="GearsOfWarLover"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

Im just saying that 1 exclusive that was in development for 4 years is not a better prove that some powerhouses multiplats like Farcry2, Assassins Creed or Resident Evil 5. I seriously think both are capable of the same graphics :roll:

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

yup, it's a real failure in every way.___gamemaster__

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

your seriously not basing the ps3 power against multiplats right.....? GearsOfWarLover

Im just saying that 1 exclusive that was in development for 4 years is not a better prove that some powerhouses multiplats like Farcry2, Assassins Creed or Resident Evil 5. I seriously think both are capable of the same graphics :roll:

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] how can you honestly believe 360 is more powerful :?rorskarch

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

You can be serious!:shock: And when did i said that 360 is more powerfull?

You look the desperate guy here. Its a fact that KZ2 looks a bit better than Gears2 and most multiplats look a bit better on the 360. Theres no ownage here. The only thing this proves is that 360 and PS3 are very similar systems. OK?

[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

You can be serious!:shock: And when did i said that 360 is more powerfull?

You look the desperate guy here. Its a fact that KZ2 looks a bit better than Gears2 and most multiplats look a bit better on the 360. Theres no ownage here. The only thing this proves is that 360 and PS3 are very similar systems. OK?

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

PAL360

Killzone2 VS Gears2 = Apples VS Bananas! How about use multiplats as comparation?

all you need to do is go read the March issue of game informer. And the guy who made both chips for both Sony and MS the Cell and the CPU in the 360. In this interview that was very good and in depth. He clearly states that the 360 CPU and the Cell are basically the same level of performance. And yes they just function different and are development for differt by developers. But again he clearly says they are both pretty much the same performance wise.

So lets just throw out the myth of the Cell being some god of CPU's this gen like Sony wanted to brain wash us with.

Ok So what do we know then that the 360 has the better GPU and has the better Ram flexibility. So one could basically = this to the 360 has the edge? I mean you have to say this. This comes from the guy who made the Cell so throw the super cpu myth out the window now.

Look this is not a flame this is just I read the March issue of Game informer yesterday. And read this interview with the creator of both the 360 cpu and the Cell.

Maybe this is why MS is not pressed and has big things in store. And even recently said just wait we have some games that are going to destroy the compitition for graphics king. Well only time will tell.

Oh and again no flame I own both system and both have nice looking games. Although I am very eager to see what MS has in store and still secret until E3.

ronjon_09

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

multiplats doesnt mean anything interms of console capabilites. some bad multiplats is just a result of a bad port.

PAL360

what he said was senseless, I havent read something that dumb in a long time.

I love how cows hate the idea of using multiplats as prove! :lol:

Anyway, dont you guys find odd the fact that after 3 years devs still cant make PS3 multiplats as good as 360 ones? It looks more like a cheap excuse that worked in 2006/7 but for sure not in 09!

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="rorskarch"] stop using this excuse, it is obvious it is just because youre desperite to find some way to say that 360 is more powerful, when if anything, it is the ps3. it does matter about multiplats look better on one console or another when there is already an exclusive that completely owns them graphically anyway. nothing you say will change that, there should be no reason to ask that question.rorskarch

You can be serious!:shock: And when did i said that 360 is more powerfull?

You look the desperate guy here. Its a fact that KZ2 looks a bit better than Gears2 and most multiplats look a bit better on the 360. Theres no ownage here. The only thing this proves is that 360 and PS3 are very similar systems. OK?

desperate? defensive? right...:lol:

And of course i got your point. You say KZ2 is the best looking game on consoles so PS3 is more powerfull!But you seem to forget that its just 1 game that took 4 years to develop where sony put a lot of money! Anyway, if what you say is true, its very sad that the most powerfull system only hast one better looking game when compared to its competitors!

[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

You can be serious!:shock: And when did i said that 360 is more powerfull?

You look the desperate guy here. Its a fact that KZ2 looks a bit better than Gears2 and most multiplats look a bit better on the 360. Theres no ownage here. The only thing this proves is that 360 and PS3 are very similar systems. OK?

PAL360

desperate? defensive? right...:lol:

And of course i got your point. You say KZ2 is the best looking game on consoles so PS3 is more powerfull!But you seem to forget that its just 1 game that took 4 years to develop where sony put a lot of money! Anyway, if what you say is true, its very sad that the most powerfull system only hast one better looking game when compared to its competitors!

Gears 2 looks better then KillZone 2 people. how can you not see it? oh it's those damn fanboy gogles.Englandfc1966

[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"] yup, it's a real failure in every way.PAL360

Killzone2 looks better than Gears2

360 lineup of multiplats look better than PS3 lineup of multiplats!

The question should be: How can you honestly believe PS3 is more powerfull? :|

because killzone 2 looks better than the lineup of multiplats...why does it matter if 360's multiplats look better than ps3 multiplats when killzone 2 looks better than ALL the multiplats?

having not yet read the replies to this, i assuming that using the phrase "just wait" didn't help your case that much.

on topic: this is getting back to all of the thoerical power arguments we had before the consoles launched. we don't need to do that any more because we actually have games out now to compare. my opinion of the libraries is that the graphics tend to be very similar. so far killzone looks the best graphically between the two, but that will probably change before the end of this year (just guessing)

[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

all you need to do is go read the March issue of game informer. And the guy who made both chips for both Sony and MS the Cell and the CPU in the 360. In this interview that was very good and in depth. He clearly states that the 360 CPU and the Cell are basically the same level of performance. And yes they just function different and are development for differt by developers. But again he clearly says they are both pretty much the same performance wise.

So lets just throw out the myth of the Cell being some god of CPU's this gen like Sony wanted to brain wash us with.

Ok So what do we know then that the 360 has the better GPU and has the better Ram flexibility. So one could basically = this to the 360 has the edge? I mean you have to say this. This comes from the guy who made the Cell so throw the super cpu myth out the window now.

Look this is not a flame this is just I read the March issue of Game informer yesterday. And read this interview with the creator of both the 360 cpu and the Cell.

Maybe this is why MS is not pressed and has big things in store. And even recently said just wait we have some games that are going to destroy the compitition for graphics king. Well only time will tell.

Oh and again no flame I own both system and both have nice looking games. Although I am very eager to see what MS has in store and still secret until E3.

guardofdead

he didn't and the tc never claimed that.

the tc claimed that the ibm guy said the processors were similar. the tc then used deductive reason to suggest that since its pretty established that the 360 has a slight edge in gpu and ram, the 360 would be theoretically more powerful because it ties the ps3 in one catagory (cpu) and has the edge in two other catagories (gpu and ram)

MY UNDERSTANDING of the article when i read it was that when he was implying that the two consoles total computing power (all compenents) were pretty equal but in different ways NOT JUST THE PROCESSORS. if thats the case, then it kind of destorys the tc's argument.

In certin parts Gears 2 looks better then Killzone 2 and in certin parts Killzone 2 looks better then Gears 2.

the 360's GPU is the main advantage.

but PC wipes the floor with either console... sooooooo

:D

that guy's stupid... the cell was developed by a TEAM, not one man. and the reason the cell is better is it's ability to process p to 16 processes at once, not doing processes faster, so standard clocking proves NOTHING about it....