I have proof 360 is a tad more powerful then PS3.

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#101 silverammo
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righttttttttttttttttttttttttttt........

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#102 ronvalencia
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@Ultima-MGS4 The RSX does not deliever 1.8 TeraFlop of shader performance. ATI 4870X2 's quoted FLOPS refers to it's shaders not including it's fix function floating point units. IF RSX GPU delivers greater than ATI 4870X2 performance it shouldn't have any problems killing off CapCom's StreetFighter IV coin-op's Geforce 7900GS GPU reference, but PS3's StreetFighter IV renders at 1120x630 resolution i.e. lower than the coin-op. NVIDIA RSX is on based NV47/G70 with 8 ROPs and 128bit wide memory bus. Good old Geforce 7900GS will muder this RSX GPU.
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#103 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

McdonaIdsGuy

Subjective opinions are always fun,but never true and far from being facts.



Technical graphics aren't subjective.

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#104 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="sasapac"]

[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]

[QUOTE="sasapac"]

ps3 exclusives like killzone 2 have already proved that ps3 has a better cpu and gpu

360 GPU>>>RSX this is a fact that can not be disputed. But what still remains the catch is if the Cell is hype or nothing special at all?

prove me that the gpu of the 360 is better that the ps3's gpu. killzone 2 is the console graphics king followed by metal gear solid 4 which are both ps3 exclusives. how can you say that 360's gpu is better that ps3's gpu?

ATI Xenos's shaders doesn't stall during texture operation, while NVIDIA RSX's and NVIDIA Geforce 7's pixel shader stalls during texture operation. Killzone 2 uses Deferred Rendering for lights, which is an efficient rendering method. CryEngine3 (Xbox 360, PS3, DX9 PC, DX10 PC) also switched to deferred rendering for lights i.e. the consoles doesn't have the brute force performance that NVIDIA Geforce 8800 delivers.
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#105 Fumpa
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

rorskarch

Killzone2 VS Gears2 = Apples VS Bananas! How about use multiplats as comparation?

that is the most ridiculous thing ive heard. so now that there is an exclusive on ps3 that is by far better than anything on 360, you try to turn to multiplats to compare :roll:

You seriously don't see the logic in comparing multiplat games?
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#106 jasopan
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Poo i don't care, at least the ps3 dosen't get the rrod every week and now the stupid e74
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#107 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

Did that make the PS3 inferior when Gears of War came out?

No because the ps3 has Uncharted and MGS4.
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#108 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

JLF1

Subjective opinions are always fun,but never true and far from being facts.



Technical graphics aren't subjective.



Yes they are,especially smoke and mirrors graphics.

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#109 JLF1
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Yes they are,especially smoke and mirrors graphics.

McdonaIdsGuy



No technical graphics are not subjective.

A game that runs at a steady 30fps is better than a game that runs at 15-30fps.

10 enemies at the same screen (gears 2) are more impressive than 5 enemies (gears 1).

Smoke and mirrors are not a part of technical graphics. Every game is only smoke and mirrors though.

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#110 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]



Yes they are,especially smoke and mirrors graphics.

JLF1



No technical graphics are not subjective.

A game that runs at a steady 30fps is better than a game that runs at 15-30fps.

10 enemies at the same screen (gears 2) are more impressive than 5 enemies (gears 1).

Smoke and mirrors are not a part of technical graphics. Every game is only smoke and mirrors though.

Those technical graphics are always possible cutting down some other important things..there is only 1 game that is a technical monster that didn't need to cut anything to be possible.. and that is Crysis..these graphic kings on consoles are always smoke and mirrors,to me the most technical impressive game on consoles is GTA IV.

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#111 JLF1
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Those technical graphics are always possible cutting down some other important things..there is only 1 game that is a technical monster that didn't need to cut anything to be possible.. and that is Crysis..these graphic kings on consoles are always smoke and mirrors,to me the most technical impressive game on consoles is GTA IV.

McdonaIdsGuy



I never said Killzone 2 was the most technical impressive console game. I don't think it is.

All I said was you can easily compare two games to each other (in the same genre) and see which game is more technical impressive on what the games does and how well the games run.

When it comes to art-direction it's all subjective.

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#112 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]

Those technical graphics are always possible cutting down some other important things..there is only 1 game that is a technical monster that didn't need to cut anything to be possible.. and that is Crysis..these graphic kings on consoles are always smoke and mirrors,to me the most technical impressive game on consoles is GTA IV.

JLF1



I never said Killzone 2 was the most technical impressive console game. I don't think it is.

All I said was you can easily compare two games to each other (in the same genre) and see which game is more technical impressive on what the games does and how well the games run.

When it comes to art-direction it's all subjective.



I said ''these console graphic kings'' i wasn't only talking about KZ2. and you won't find a fair comparison here..everyone compares RPGS vs FPS..or a platformer vs TPS..

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#113 delta3074
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

Did that make the PS3 inferior when Gears of War came out?

No because the ps3 has Uncharted and MGS4.

gears of war was at least a year before those two games
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#114 ronjon_09
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all you need to do is go read the March issue of game informer. And the guy who made both chips for both Sony and MS the Cell and the CPU in the 360. In this interview that was very good and in depth. He clearly states that the 360 CPU and the Cell are basically the same level of performance. And yes they just function different and are development for differt by developers. But again he clearly says they are both pretty much the same performance wise.

So lets just throw out the myth of the Cell being some god of CPU's this gen like Sony wanted to brain wash us with.

Ok So what do we know then that the 360 has the better GPU and has the better Ram flexibility. So one could basically = this to the 360 has the edge? I mean you have to say this. This comes from the guy who made the Cell so throw the super cpu myth out the window now.

Look this is not a flame this is just I read the March issue of Game informer yesterday. And read this interview with the creator of both the 360 cpu and the Cell.

Maybe this is why MS is not pressed and has big things in store. And even recently said just wait we have some games that are going to destroy the compitition for graphics king. Well only time will tell.

Oh and again no flame I own both system and both have nice looking games. Although I am very eager to see what MS has in store and still secret until E3.

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what page may i ask? i have that issue in my hands as i type.......... i would really like to read where IBM said the 360 processor ismore powerful than the cell,

i never said more I said the guy said basicly the same in power.

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#115 zekere
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Funny when you consider that the U3 engine was created in 2004 . That's 5 years of tuning...more than KZ2 . As good as Gears 2 is (and it really has good graphics) KZ2 is a more advanced game . It has better animations, better lightning and runs smoother . KZ2 is console graphics king . The only thing beating it from the number 1 spot will be Uncharted 2 , another PS3 exclusive , that is, until Crytek shows something with Cryengine3...

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#116 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

pyromaniac223

Did that make the PS3 inferior when Gears of War came out?

no because MGS4 looks better than gears 2 so 360 was still inferior.

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#117 stiltzsy
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No game matches what Killzone 2 has on consoles graphically. 360 and Wii are inferior still untill i see one game that beats killzone 2.

Gamersince81
So when that happens does that mean the PS3 is clearly inferior? This is silly. Fact is since both PS3 and 360 have been playing leap frog with graphics king it means they are both pretty much the same. So the only real thing you can look at to know which one is more powerful is the multiplats.