I honestly can't believe this, shame on you Blizzard (WoW related huge spoilers)

Don't worry, this isn't about StarCraft 2, this is about WoW.

Is not a secret, i strongly dislike WoW, i've never been into MMORPGs and i've tried WoW a couple of times and both times bored me to death, i'm sorry but i just feel it too repetitive and without any purpose, i mean just click and click and click, sure, i'm aware that all games under that concept are repetitive and boring, but, i just don't like the game at all, let's just put it that way.

The thing is that a couple of weeks ago, i was talking to my cousin, i huge, huge WoW fan (because of him, i try the game) and he told me, i haven't tell you right? [spoiler] officially Arthas, the Lych King, the most powerful being in the earth is....dead [/spoiler] I was like :| WTH, i mean, how it is possible? how could Blizzard betray their old Warcraft fans like this, the players that support Warcraft as an RTS game, the ending in Frozen Throne was beyond Epic and thanks to such a cliffhanger, we've been claiming a new Warcraft only to see the human's army trying to fight the undead, Jaina struggling to save his old love, but now, this happen? I'm sorry, but i feel Blizzard has just shattered the great mythology they created, by doing this.

And yes, i'm complaining to much, but this only made my dislike for WoW to grow even more, and i'm fraid that WarCraft IV may never exist.

So, Am i alone here, what do you think of WoW, Would you like a new RTS WarCraft?

Share your comments.

Yep..I didn't like that at all.. although we don't really beat him but whatever, I'd rather have it in RTS form.

The WoW developer team changed since vanilla. They want to take the game into their own direction.

And yes, it does feel like lore is getting r---ed, and yes, if they ever think of WC4, it's probably going to start from TFT's end, not from WoW's line.

The WoW developer team changed since vanilla. They want to take the game into their own direction.

And yes, it does feel like lore is getting r---ed, and yes, if they ever think of WC4, it's probably going to start from TFT's end, not from WoW's line.

Mograine

We were saying that probably they do this to make room for the "plot" in Cataclysm, but still.

Anyway, you have a good point, if they make WC4 the should start from that point and avoid WoW timeline.

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

I thought it was time for him to go. Nobody rules forever and all that jazz.

[spoiler] Absolutely hated Tirion Fordring's involvement in that fight though. [/spoiler]

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

Wow is story based...

The WoW developer team changed since vanilla. They want to take the game into their own direction.

And yes, it does feel like lore is getting r---ed, and yes, if they ever think of WC4, it's probably going to start from TFT's end, not from WoW's line.

Mograine

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

Chris Metzen controls basically all lore since day one. He's still at Blizzard. Also, it's not just your party, alot of other very important lore characters are there.aaronmullan

Yet none of them came to help. I'd expect jaina, slyvanas, and all those with huge connections to Arthas to at least come, hell even bronzebeard. You know what made me mad as well? How they made Arthas two most trusted commanders 5 man bosses... seriously now.. you could have put rotface and fester has the 5man bosses..

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

Because through previous games, Blizzard developed a great universe around this characters that WoW gladly destroyed.

Anyway, almost forgot, why you think the game is so popular, what did different from other MMORPGs.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

aaronmullan

yet somehow i managed to play it without even knowing there was a story.

most of the game revolves around collecting boar tusks to get a rusty sword. I dont consider that story based.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

yet somehow i managed to play it without even knowing there was a story.

most of the game revolves around collecting boar tusks to get a rusty sword. I dont consider that story based.

Because you probably don't read quests and you probably never played the RTS games.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Chris Metzen controls basically all lore since day one. He's still at Blizzard. Also, it's not just your party, alot of other very important lore characters are there.Espada12

Yet none of them came to help. I'd expect jaina, slyvanas, and all those with huge connections to Arthas to at least come, hell even bronzebeard. You know what made me mad as well? How they made Arthas two most trusted commanders 5 man bosses... seriously now.. you could have put rotface and fester has the 5man bosses..

this is an easy one for me, i just play the game a bit with my friends, kill guys in the battlegrounds and have some fun.

i don't care one iota about the story or how anyone was betrayed because some mindless head candy fiction story turned out some other way than they thought it should have.

you start worrying about things like that and it's a slippery slope to "OMG!!!! HAN SHOT FIRST!!!!" land.

Because it would be boring to have only the same bad guy over and over. He died. Big whoop. Time for a new villain.

Doesnt really bother me as I dont like MMO's really (ive only really liked Ultima Online). I have tried tons of them they just are not that good to me personally. Although I will be lookign forward to The Old Republic.

I dont have a problem with WOW, as it fits its taret audience perfectly, its just not my cup of tea personally.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Chris Metzen controls basically all lore since day one. He's still at Blizzard. Also, it's not just your party, alot of other very important lore characters are there.Espada12

Yet none of them came to help. I'd expect jaina, slyvanas, and all those with huge connections to Arthas to at least come, hell even bronzebeard. You know what made me mad as well? How they made Arthas two most trusted commanders 5 man bosses... seriously now.. you could have put rotface and fester has the 5man bosses..

Wow, Blizzard your killing me, Jaina wasn't there????????

*Runs to huge his StarCraft 2 copy* Please, don't turn into this, please.

He starred in an expansion pack, he was never a "major" character from Warcraft 1-2. Why is he so important now?

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Chris Metzen controls basically all lore since day one. He's still at Blizzard. Also, it's not just your party, alot of other very important lore characters are there.Miroku32

Yet none of them came to help. I'd expect jaina, slyvanas, and all those with huge connections to Arthas to at least come, hell even bronzebeard. You know what made me mad as well? How they made Arthas two most trusted commanders 5 man bosses... seriously now.. you could have put rotface and fester has the 5man bosses..

That was falric.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

madsnakehhh

Because through previous games, Blizzard developed a great universe around this characters that WoW gladly destroyed.

Anyway, almost forgot, why you think the game is so popular, what did different from other MMORPGs.

it made MMOs casual, its the same reason the wii is popular.

prior to WoW all MMOs were ultra hardcore.

wow was the first mmo that was very casual friendly.

He was introduced in an expansion pack, he was never a "major" character from Warcraft 1-3. Why is he so important now?

Buckledant

He wasn't a major character in WC3? ....

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Chris Metzen controls basically all lore since day one. He's still at Blizzard. Also, it's not just your party, alot of other very important lore characters are there.madsnakehhh

Yet none of them came to help. I'd expect jaina, slyvanas, and all those with huge connections to Arthas to at least come, hell even bronzebeard. You know what made me mad as well? How they made Arthas two most trusted commanders 5 man bosses... seriously now.. you could have put rotface and fester has the 5man bosses..

Wow, Blizzard your killing me, Jaina wasn't there????????

*Runs to huge his StarCraft 2 copy* Please, don't turn into this, please.

Only the Fordring was there and he was totally in ice for most of that fight.....they showed the lich king's might, because technically he does beat you, but fordring comes to save the day!

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

Because through previous games, Blizzard developed a great universe around this characters that WoW gladly destroyed.

Anyway, almost forgot, why you think the game is so popular, what did different from other MMORPGs.

it made MMOs casual, its the same reason the wii is popular.

prior to WoW all MMOs were ultra hardcore.

wow was the first mmo that was very casual friendly.

The game is called "Wrath of the Lich King".. It was almost 100% obvious you would kill him at one point or another.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Because through previous games, Blizzard developed a great universe around this characters that WoW gladly destroyed.

Anyway, almost forgot, why you think the game is so popular, what did different from other MMORPGs.

Riverwolf007

it made MMOs casual, its the same reason the wii is popular.

prior to WoW all MMOs were ultra hardcore.

wow was the first mmo that was very casual friendly.

i never played everquest for the ps2... but everquest for the pc makes wow look like a fisher price game.

See the two guys on the sides?? 5 man bosses FTL.. those guys should have been raid bosses!

He was introduced in an expansion pack, he was never a "major" character from Warcraft 1-3. Why is he so important now?

Buckledant

[QUOTE="Buckledant"]

He was introduced in an expansion pack, he was never a "major" character from Warcraft 1-3. Why is he so important now?

Espada12

He wasn't a major character in WC3? ....

please change [spoiler] Death to Dead [/spoiler] cause it just sounds silly when you say [spoiler] Death instead of Dead. [/spoiler]

Arthas is not the most strongest being in Warcraft. The fact that they gave Yogg Saron (Old god) and Malygos (Guardian of Magic) such poor deaths is far more dissapointing. Led_poison

Arthas is not the most strongest being in Warcraft. The fact that they gave Yogg Saron (Old god) and Malygos (Guardian of Magic) such poor deaths is far more dissapointing. Led_poison

Yea that was awful as well, even though I believe yogg isn't dead, neither is cthun. Malygos was also a big disappointment and now they are using deathwing... so that's the leader of the black and blue dragon flights gonna die :(.

Honestly, I couldn't care less.

I killed Onyxia 50 times during the course of my WoW career and was never depressed that she kept coming back to life every weekend because it "messed with the lore". I'm sure some people are fanatical enough about WoW lore, but I don't care. It's just a backdrop for a really fun, engaging, colorful game.

So what the whiners are saying is that the lore should just stop becouse you like Arthas? The Warcraft Universe belongs to Blizzard they can do anything they want to with it. It would be boring to have the same arch enemy for years. No one lives forever and nor should they. Arthas's leaves a vacant spot for another evil being to emerge thus pushing the story forward.

please change Death to Dead cause it just sounds silly when you say Death instead of Dead

LegatoSkyheart

:P Sorry, my English is still terrible sometimes.

Honestly, I couldn't care less.

I killed Onyxia 50 times during the course of my WoW career and was never depressed that she kept coming back to life every weekend because it "messed with the lore". I'm sure some people are fanatical enough about WoW lore, but I don't care. It's just a backdrop for a really fun, engaging, colorful game.

Hahadouken

I know i'm over reacting, and i don't know how the story is in WoW, but for the people who played WarCraft 3, Arthas was a huge deal, it was the main deal in the game, so having him dead before a proper conclusion, it's kind of disappointing.

So what the whiners are saying is that the lore should just stop becouse you like Arthas? The Warcraft Universe belongs to Blizzard they can do anything they want to with it. It would be boring to have the same arch enemy for years. No one lives forever and nor should they. Arthas's leaves a vacant spot for another evil being to emerge thus pushing the story forward.

rzepak

Well, after hours and hours of the same, sure it's boring, but for the ones that actually cared for the story, is really disappointing.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

So what the whiners are saying is that the lore should just stop becouse you like Arthas? The Warcraft Universe belongs to Blizzard they can do anything they want to with it. It would be boring to have the same arch enemy for years. No one lives forever and nor should they. Arthas's leaves a vacant spot for another evil being to emerge thus pushing the story forward.

madsnakehhh

Well, after hours and hours of the same, sure it's boring, but for the ones that actually cared for the story, is really disappointing.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

So what the whiners are saying is that the lore should just stop becouse you like Arthas? The Warcraft Universe belongs to Blizzard they can do anything they want to with it. It would be boring to have the same arch enemy for years. No one lives forever and nor should they. Arthas's leaves a vacant spot for another evil being to emerge thus pushing the story forward.

madsnakehhh

Well, after hours and hours of the same, sure it's boring, but for the ones that actually cared for the story, is really disappointing.

I am sorry but those who actually care about the story should be happy it is being developed and is moving forward instead of stalling on account of Arthas.

Whoa a villian actually died? THIS WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!? So what? theres a new lich king now, get over it. and he wasnt the most powerful, where does it ever state that?Birdy09

At the end of WarCraft 3, is pretty much a given fact, he was stronger than Jain, than Thrall, than Sylvanas, than Illidian.

Blizzard probably isn't going to make another Warcraft RTS or at least not for a long time. They're advancing the plot with WoW. I don't know why it's an issue.