I honestly can't believe this, shame on you Blizzard (WoW related huge spoilers)

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTS:

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=144411

then watch the cutscene after to get the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hCvrHbI6_k

try emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTS:

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=144411

then watch the cutscene after to get the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hCvrHbI6_k

try emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.

Birdy09

Well the guy did say the RTS team next project was WC4.

http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Arreat-Summit/Warcraft-4-Confirmed-Starcraft-2-to-be-a-Trilogy

In conclusion with this thread we can deduce there are two groups of people in Warcraft lore: the ones that don't accept the changed made in WoW and the story continued till the end of TFT (I'm in this group) and the group that is glad with the changes Blizzard made and want more lore with the next WoW expansions.

Sigh,I still don't see why the battle with Arthas in WoW is so epic. I would have preferred you get your own army and perhaps some allies (Thrall, Sylvanas, Jaina, I don't know, anyone), invade the scourge bases with perhaps Kel'Thuzad and Anub'Arak as the Lich King allies for annoy a little like Vash and Kael did in the last mission of TFT.

BTW Maiev's brother is coming in cata.. I wonder if she will make an appearance.

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTStry emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.Birdy09

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTS:

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=144411

then watch the cutscene after to get the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hCvrHbI6_k

try emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.

Espada12

Well the guy did say the RTS team next project was WC4.

http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Arreat-Summit/Warcraft-4-Confirmed-Starcraft-2-to-be-a-Trilogy

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTS:

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=144411

then watch the cutscene after to get the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hCvrHbI6_k

try emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.

Birdy09

Well the guy did say the RTS team next project was WC4.

http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Arreat-Summit/Warcraft-4-Confirmed-Starcraft-2-to-be-a-Trilogy

Well they got that new MMO that is rumored to be revealed at this blizzcon.

So, you wanted him to be immortal?shane_orija

No, but i had the idea that the whole situation would get a conclusion in WC4.

I can only hope that the new RTS WC will continue the story when TFT left.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]Maybe you should actually play WoW. You act like the lore in WoW simply doesn't exist, or it's told in footnotes. Yeah, he's been off'd, but he got a full expansion and nearly two years of content dedicated to it. He got a terrific send-off, just because it was in WoW and not in an RTS doesn't make it a "betrayal". Stop being so melodramatic. Also, I'm sorry but the majority of the Warcraft fanbase plays WoW, whether you like it or not, so why wouldn't they continue the Warcraft story in WoW? Should it stand still until they make another RTS? Now Illidan, they dropped the ball on that, and Blizzard have admitted the screwed up and apologized, but not this one. They did this one right. And there's also a very weird,rather naive set of people who hate the ending solely because he dies. What the hell? Not because they disliked the story, or the manner, but apparently if the character dies, that means it's a bad ending. I don't think they understand anything about storytelling or character arcs.Miroku32

If you actually even bothered to watch a video of it you would know they didn't. The battle ends when Arthas is done "testing" the raid, and he one shots all of them dead with the intention to raise them again as deathknights. While he's busy gloating about how awesome he is that uber paladin sneaks up and cheap shots him.

The Lich King isn't dead, he is immortal. Arthas is dead.

The only thing I don't understand is why they think Ner'zhul won't corrupt Bolvar.

The Lich King isn't dead, he is immortal. Arthas is dead.

The only thing I don't understand is why they think Ner'zhul won't corrupt Bolvar.

svenus97

Because Ner'zhul corrupted Arthas through Frostmourne, but Frostmourne lies shattered. Don't ask me how can somebody follow that logic, but there it goes.

[QUOTE="shane_orija"]So, you wanted him to be immortal?madsnakehhh

No, but i had the idea that the whole situation would get a conclusion in WC4.

I can only hope that the new RTS WC will continue the story when TFT left.

The Lich King isn't dead, he is immortal. Arthas is dead.

The only thing I don't understand is why they think Ner'zhul won't corrupt Bolvar.

svenus97

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTS:

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=144411

then watch the cutscene after to get the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hCvrHbI6_k

try emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.

Birdy09

Watch, then backtrack on your post. In short, you were wrong. Warcraft 3 was one of the most fun and most cinematic games I've ever played. Every cutscene made me wet my britches.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Look MMORPG haters, watch the entire Lick King fight, its more epic than anything you could shove into an RTS:

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=144411

then watch the cutscene after to get the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hCvrHbI6_k

try emulating that kind of content in an RTS, Warcraft IV is never going to happen.

Brownesque

Watch, then backtrack on your post. In short, you were wrong. Warcraft 3 was one of the most fun and most cinematic games I've ever played. Every cutscene made me wet my britches.

yep, guilds are now downing Arthas on a weekly basis

i want WCIV. WC3 was epic and the best game ever made imo. I hope they decide to refresh the story back to end of frozen throne. They could still using the main elements like drenai as new race for example. But there is no way the main character could be raided by none names, that would be fail³.

The Lich King isn't dead, he is immortal. Arthas is dead.

The only thing I don't understand is why they think Ner'zhul won't corrupt Bolvar.

It says that without the LK the scourge will destroy Azeroth, so... I'm wondering, why couldn't it destroy Azeroth with it's master?svenus97

Because its master keeps the Scourge back.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

yet somehow i managed to play it without even knowing there was a story.

most of the game revolves around collecting boar tusks to get a rusty sword. I dont consider that story based.

It says that without the LK the scourge will destroy Azeroth, so... I'm wondering, why couldn't it destroy Azeroth with it's master?svenus97

Because arthas was holding them back. You see if no one is controlling them they would just run over everything without consideration.

[QUOTE="svenus97"]

It says that without the LK the scourge will destroy Azeroth, so... I'm wondering, why couldn't it destroy Azeroth with it's master?

Because arthas was holding them back. You see if no one is controlling them they would just run over everything without consideration.

It's called story progression. Get over it.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="svenus97"]

It says that without the LK the scourge will destroy Azeroth, so... I'm wondering, why couldn't it destroy Azeroth with it's master?svenus97

Because arthas was holding them back. You see if no one is controlling them they would just run over everything without consideration.

Part of him was still good, read up on the items he drops when you kill him heroic. He still keeps heirlooms of jaina and bronzebeard on him etc etc

never understood people who care about lore in non story based games.

markinthedark

It's actually the future of video game design. People generally skip cutscenes, but more and more developers are looking at ways to make you feel more engaged in the story without spoonfeeding it to you. Left 4 dead 2 is a prime example. Just by playing all the campaigns you get to grasp events that have occured without the game telling you what's happened in a cutscene.

It's intuitive and keeps the game interesting.

It's called story progression. Get over it.

ChubbyGuy40

You clearly miss the point, is not about Arthas being dead, is about how i feel is unfair for Blizzard to resolve the entire plot in WC3 in a completely different type of game.