I hope Killzone doesn't flop

8.0coakroach

even if the game doesnt score good i know it will be a decent game still.

id rather play f.e.a.r 2# though hopefully they dont noobify that games multiplayer well wasnt exactly pro to begin with lol .

if it doesn't flop 360 fanboys will have to go into hiding to get away lol

so far it doesn't look like it will flop gamespot and vgchartz already giving the game praize

[QUOTE="coakroach"]8.0Rexer-i4

vgchartztek91

They're real credible:roll:

[QUOTE="tek91"] vgchartzParasomniac

They're real credible:roll:

Why are VGChartz looked down upon? What makes them incredible... wait that doesn't sound right.. what makes them less credible?

I don't understand why people are hyping Killzone 2. The success or failure of KZ2 will not drastically alter the SW.subrosian

I don't understand why people are hyping Killzone 2. The success or failure of KZ2 will not drastically alter the SW.subrosian

It would not affect the outcome, but it would have an effect on the community. I think it has potential to be like Twilight Princess level outrage/ownage.

Anyways, I hope it does flop because all my favorite games this gen have been lower-scoring games. :P Nah, I don't want the game to flop. More great games equals more games to play which equals...less money... on second thought-

vgchartztek91

They're real credible:roll:

Why are VGChartz looked down upon? What makes them incredible... wait that doesn't sound right.. what makes them less credible?

It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.itsGodHimSelf

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It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.itsGodHimSelf

[QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.Skittles_McGee

those arent good fps games.

those arent good fps games.

blehblahblep

I think they are! :D And my opinion matters. :)

I loved Halo, and Call of Duty 4 was an enjoyable thrill ride.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.blehblahblep

those arent good fps games.

[QUOTE="blehblahblep"]

those arent good fps games.

Zassimick

I think they are! :D And my opinion matters. :)

I loved Halo, and Call of Duty 4 was an enjoyable thrill ride.

quake 2 owns those noob games.

quake 2 owns those noob games.

blehblahblep

Maybe they are "noob" compared to Quake 2. I don't know, I've never played a Quake title.

But Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 were extremely fun, so regardless of how noobish the games were, they were great to me.

[QUOTE="blehblahblep"]

quake 2 owns those noob games.

Zassimick

Maybe they are "noob" compared to Quake 2. I don't know, I've never played a Quake title.

But Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 were extremely fun, so regardless of how noobish the games were, they were great.

[QUOTE="Zassimick"][QUOTE="blehblahblep"]

quake 2 owns those noob games.

Skittles_McGee

Maybe they are "noob" compared to Quake 2. I don't know, I've never played a Quake title.

But Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 were extremely fun, so regardless of how noobish the games were, they were great.

Is a twitch shooter like the Unreal Tournament series? :? If so, I prefer Halo.

Is a twitch shooter like the Unreal Tournament series? :? If so, I prefer Halo.

Zassimick

I have a lot of fun with UT though. Quake was good, but I never really got into its multiplayer much.

[QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.Skittles_McGee

Good in what way? Campaign? Sure. While short, both campaigns were great. Halo 3 had the best in the series and COD4 was challenging. Multiplayer? Not so much. COD4 does a poor job of trying to imitate Halo 2 while having an extremely noob friendly multiplayer. Halo 3 also made it noob friendly with a hitbox the size of the Sun. (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3Vez2iWKMWw.html , its a Halo CE montage so if you can't look at poor graphics don't bother, however, if you can, watch for a few minutes where he shows how they dumbed down Halo 3)

I guess me and the other guy who quoted me are the few who actually want an FPS that's good and not casualized. Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre.

quake 2 you gotta learn how to trick jump/strafe jump/rocket jumps/grenade.

and unreal tournament you gotta learn dodge jumping/wall jumps/hammer jumps

quake 2 is overall faster than unreal.

overall better deathmatch ut is would say is second best.

ut/quake arent meh but they havent done anything new to add something to the franchises/evolve it.

their mapping is actually getting worse.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.itsGodHimSelf

Good in what way? Campaign? Sure. While short, both campaigns were great. Halo 3 had the best in the series and COD4 was challenging. Multiplayer? Not so much. COD4 does a poor job of trying to imitate Halo 2 while having an extremely noob friendly multiplayer. Halo 3 also made it noob friendly with a hitbox the size of the Sun. (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3Vez2iWKMWw.html , its a Halo CE montage so if you can't look at poor graphics don't bother, however, if you can, watch for a few minutes where he shows how they dumbed down Halo 3)

I guess me and the other guy who quoted me are the few who actually want an FPS that's good and not casualized. Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre.

quake 2 you gotta learn how to trick jump/strafe jump/rocket jumps/grenade.

and unreal tournament you gotta learn dodge jumping/wall jumps/hammer jumps

quake 2 is overall faster than unreal.

overall better deathmatch ut is would say is second best.

ut/quake arent meh but they havent done anything new to add something to the franchises/evolve it.

their mapping is actually getting worse.

blehblahblep

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]It's bad for shooter fans if it flops. This flops, most developers won't try to push the bar for making an FPS/shooter. If the two "best" shooters this gen continue to be Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, FPS fans are in trouble. These games are the Wii Fit and Wii Music of the FPS games.itsGodHimSelf

Good in what way? Campaign? Sure. While short, both campaigns were great. Halo 3 had the best in the series and COD4 was challenging. Multiplayer? Not so much. COD4 does a poor job of trying to imitate Halo 2 while having an extremely noob friendly multiplayer. Halo 3 also made it noob friendly with a hitbox the size of the Sun. (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3Vez2iWKMWw.html , its a Halo CE montage so if you can't look at poor graphics don't bother, however, if you can, watch for a few minutes where he shows how they dumbed down Halo 3)

I guess me and the other guy who quoted me are the few who actually want an FPS that's good and not casualized. Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre.

It tried to copy it's matchmaking.

Watch the video.

It has been casualized.

I never said it was your favorite genre, I said you guys cry about how casuals have ruined your favorite genres (adventure, racing, RPG, etc.)

Maybe you should learn how to read?

itsGodHimSelf

-"Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre. " Since we're talking about shooters, how would you interpret that?

-"Maybe you should learn how to read?" So because you have no arguement you resort to making blatant personal attacks that are not only completely irrelevant, but also totally unfounded? Well done. I believe we call this something like "Damage control" around here. Its not very well-liked and I don't recommend you try it.

[QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] You mean if Halo and CoD remain the "best" shooters, we'll have more games of similar quality? Oh, woe are we! We'll have good FPS's to play :cry: Whatever shall we do?jg4xchamp

Good in what way? Campaign? Sure. While short, both campaigns were great. Halo 3 had the best in the series and COD4 was challenging. Multiplayer? Not so much. COD4 does a poor job of trying to imitate Halo 2 while having an extremely noob friendly multiplayer. Halo 3 also made it noob friendly with a hitbox the size of the Sun. (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3Vez2iWKMWw.html , its a Halo CE montage so if you can't look at poor graphics don't bother, however, if you can, watch for a few minutes where he shows how they dumbed down Halo 3)

I guess me and the other guy who quoted me are the few who actually want an FPS that's good and not casualized. Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre.

Whether you want to argue that the pistol was overpowered, it doesn't matter. You started off with a pistol, it's not like it was a power weapon. You were either better than your opponent or you weren't.

The sword, yes it was overpowered so I'll give you that. The length you could lunge was ridiculous. Someone made a montage and they lunged from sniper tower to BR tower (the one directly across) on Lockout. Whoever had sword basically won, there was really no skill involved in Halo 2.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]

It tried to copy it's matchmaking.

Watch the video.

It has been casualized.

I never said it was your favorite genre, I said you guys cry about how casuals have ruined your favorite genres (adventure, racing, RPG, etc.)

Maybe you should learn how to read?

itsGodHimSelf

-"Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre. " Since we're talking about shooters, how would you interpret that?

-"Maybe you should learn how to read?" So because you have no arguement you resort to making blatant personal attacks that are not only completely irrelevant, but also totally unfounded? Well done. I believe we call this something like "Damage control" around here. Its not very well-liked and I don't recommend you try it.

That's a personal attack? Sorry, I had no idea you were so sensitive.

A personal attack would be me calling you gay Learn the difference ;)

Go back to playing your noob friendly games.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="itsGodHimSelf"]

Good in what way? Campaign? Sure. While short, both campaigns were great. Halo 3 had the best in the series and COD4 was challenging. Multiplayer? Not so much. COD4 does a poor job of trying to imitate Halo 2 while having an extremely noob friendly multiplayer. Halo 3 also made it noob friendly with a hitbox the size of the Sun. (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3Vez2iWKMWw.html , its a Halo CE montage so if you can't look at poor graphics don't bother, however, if you can, watch for a few minutes where he shows how they dumbed down Halo 3)

I guess me and the other guy who quoted me are the few who actually want an FPS that's good and not casualized. Funny, because you guys cry about how people casualize your favorite genre.

itsGodHimSelf

Whether you want to argue that the pistol was overpowered, it doesn't matter. You started off with a pistol, it's not like it was a power weapon. You were either better than your opponent or you weren't.

The sword, yes it was overpowered so I'll give you that. The length you could lunge was ridiculous. Someone made a montage and they lunged from sniper tower to BR tower (the one directly across) on Lockout. Whoever had sword basically won, there was really no skill involved in Halo 2.

I am sure GG & Sony have done their best to make sure KZ2 gets everything right and be a high quality game.... they both have put much into this project and know how much PS3/shooter fans are hyped about this game...

Obviously haters will still bash the game even if it gets great scores but thats normal.... those getting the game should just focus on enjoying it...

[QUOTE="subrosian"]I don't understand why people are hyping Killzone 2. The success or failure of KZ2 will not drastically alter the SW.TREAL_Since

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Some people seem to be betting on KZ2 being "the PS3's Halo", but frankly that's quite a leap-of-faith to make. There have been countless solid titles that haven't become system-selling blockbusters, that "spark" of mega-popularity is rare.

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So, I can't see KZ2 really altering the course of the SW significantly. If it fails to meet expectations, oh well. If it succeeds, great, the PS3 has another solid game to add to its library. Either way, sure, we'll see massive whining on the forums, but that's only because people are investing a ridiculous amount of time and energy on the success of something they have absolutely no control over.

[QUOTE="blehblahblep"]

quake 2 you gotta learn how to trick jump/strafe jump/rocket jumps/grenade.

and unreal tournament you gotta learn dodge jumping/wall jumps/hammer jumps

quake 2 is overall faster than unreal.

overall better deathmatch ut is would say is second best.

ut/quake arent meh but they havent done anything new to add something to the franchises/evolve it.

their mapping is actually getting worse.

Skittles_McGee

LMFAO!

in quake 2 i used to have times where i would only be obsessed with one weapon like the super shotgun and only use that would or the railgun.

i could win with any weapon.

the rocket doesnt dominate the other weapons

hasnt in ut either.

flak alternate shot is good against rocket users and primary.

or the shock rifle ....shock ball/explosion combo.

You're all going to have to go into hiding if it flops after hyping it for so long.Parasomniac

I own a PS3 and hoping that KZ2 flops.

Why? Because I want to see how cows deal with it.:twisted: