I hope PSP Go flops HARD. Don't support it!

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#1 Shinobi120
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And I mean that in a nice way. Personally, simply put, going full DD will kill gaming. DD is only good if it comes as a secondary option for gaming (Like PSN & XBLA). Discs & physical media should always be the first option for gaming.

At least this is optional, but if this suceeds, this will only give Sony ideas for them to do it in their next PSP handheld system, maybe on their next PS console. I say, don't support it. I don't know about the rest of you, but to each his/her own.

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#2 finalfantasy94
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i wish it was cheaper. 250 is way to much.

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#3 BioShockOwnz
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It should be $199.99 max.

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#4 psyball
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While your logic is clearly flawless...

If gaming goes entirely download, there whille be no more manufacturing costs, thus allowing more developers to develop more games without the steep investment of manufacturing.

There will be no more hasseling with games stores like EB.

Also the idea of it going entirely downloadinvitable either way, if you dont want to move forward with the times its your problem, no one else should have to limit themselves.

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#5 AgentA-Mi6
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The Psp go has to be the worst idea Sony ever came up with, they could bleed millions when that monstrosity fails, what are these people thinking, piracy is back but DD wont save them one bit, it could slow psp hardware sales like a lethal disease and hurt the attache ratio, which is already small, 5 games last time I checked? I wish they could rethink this garbage and put a damn UMD drive in that "thing"
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#6 kweeni
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the main problem with the psp go is its price but anyhow i'm sticking with my psp 2000
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#7 TalesofRaGnArOk
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Discs and other physical media are old hat these days, for music as well as videogames

And the price, yes its expensive, but the thing I hate most is the d-pad + analog stick placement (along with the obligatory "no second analog? wtf")

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]The Psp go has to be the worst idea Sony ever came up with, they could bleed millions when that monstrosity fails, what are these people thinking, piracy is back but DD wont save them one bit, it could slow psp hardware sales like a lethal disease and hurt the attache ratio, which is already small, 5 games last time I checked? I wish they could rethink this garbage and put a damn UMD drive in that "thing"

relax dude they are still supporting the psp3000. the go is just for the people who dare to be different
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#9 SuperNecro
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Actually, I think DD and portable gaming could work well together. The only hurdle would be storage space.
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#10 Bentham
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You should become an advisor to Jack Tretton and co., they could use the valuable information you have just provided.
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#11 AgentA-Mi6
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relax dude they are still supporting the psp3000. the go is just for the people who dare to be differentAndrovinus
It was the same with BC on the Ps3, they said at first they it wasn't gone, "its just the EE chip" , BC "will continue in the form of Software emulation", the old 80gb Ps3s were dropped and BC was over forever when stock was cleared, Sony acts in mysterious ways nobody comprehends.

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#12 Androvinus
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Androvinus"] relax dude they are still supporting the psp3000. the go is just for the people who dare to be different

It was the same with BC on the Ps3, they said at first they it wasn't gone, "its just the EE chip" , BC "will continue in the form of Software emulation", the old 80gb Ps3s were dropped and BC was over forever when stock was cleared, Sony is like God, they act in mysterious ways nobody comprehends.

well they had to sell more ps2s i guess ? i dunno, but the psp 3000 is still going strong and they just want a reason to have to ship less umds.
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#13 -Oath
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Playing monster hunter with that piece of crap would be hell...

Anyway, I dont HOPE it flops but i really hope eventually sony realizes no one likes DDL and improves the Go with a UMD slot or something.

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#14 thelastguy
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The price isn't as bad as the iTouchs, its still too expensive though.

DD is the future and will replace physical media eventually (when that happens is anybodys guess)

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#15 striking_
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Yeah I agree as I don't support DD, also I think Sony needs to learn that charging too much won't work,hopefully two huge failures un a gen will teach them that.

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#16 mrarmyman48
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im still trying to sell my fat psp1000 that i stupidly bought. I refuse to buy another sony handheld without 2 analog nubs. that is the same flaw that killed the dreamcast. for the last 3 generations controllers have had two sticks (n64 at least had the c buttons), so puting only one stick on they actually went backwards a couple generations. the control scheme for the psp as well as almost every game for the system is tragically broken. however, if they add touch screen, a second stick, and phone capabilities, I will sell my iphone for it in an instant
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#17 mrarmyman48
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lol, i forgot the topic was about DD, sorry, anyways I think the next psp will have its games come on flash cards, and be much larger in size, like on the scale of console games.
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#18 Brownesque
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And I mean that in a nice way. Personally, simply put, going full DD will kill gaming. DD is only good if it comes as a secondary option for gaming (Like PSN & XBLA). Discs & physical media should always be the first option for gaming.

At least this is optional, but if this suceeds, this will only give Sony ideas for them to do it in their next PSP handheld system, maybe on their next PS console. I say, don't support it. I don't know about the rest of you, but to each his/her own.

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Why, you love retailers, distributors, and publishers pwning your industry? If you have to give full buck to someone, wouldn't you much rather it be the developer or the investor or both? Cutting the middle man is the best thing you could possibly do in the software business. Software DOESN'T HAVE TO BE transferred via a physical medium. Once it's downloaded to your PC, it's the same thing. You run the application same as you do when you read it off a physical disc. That, and it will neuter the used game business which is currently scourging new game sales and contributing substantially to the price gouging we're currently seeing from retailers and publishers at the moment. What exactly is the point of mass-manufacturing CDs so that you can distribute them globally when you can just as easily set up upload servers with fast as hell connection speeds?

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#19 Pariah-
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This will be the first hand held I will actually bother to support at all actually.

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#20 dr_jashugan
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I would have preferred a PSP Go using a SECOND memory stick for it's games. Also the price is too HIGH. :|

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#21 navstar29
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I'm not the biggest fan of DD ... but small DD, such as small PSP games (which is what Sony is pushing dev's to do) is perfectly fine with me, [ the XBLA and PSN platforms are perfectly fine with me too].

Its when people claim that Blu-ray is fail because of DD, is when it gets to me, for some reason people think that everyone will have access to an awesome 1Gbps-like connection within the next 10 years and we'll all have unlimited bandwidth and world peace.
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#22 shakmaster13
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If you don't like it buy a different type of PSP. They aren't dropping the 3000. I don't see why people are complaining. It enhances PSN immensly and is great for people who want more portablilty. It just adds more variety. If you think it is overpriced and want a UMD drive go buy the 3000. It's that simple.

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#23 warmaster670
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DD is only good if it comes as a secondary option for gaming (Like PSN & XBLA). Discs & physical media should always be the first option for gaming.

garland51

Your post makes no sense, seeing as the pspgo is a secondary option, if you dont want DD they geez, i dont know buy a psp300 and STFU.

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#24 linkin_guy109
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im all for it, as long as there is enough storage capacity, because if there isnt then the psp go will have a huge problem.

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#25 finalfantasy94
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Actually, I think DD and portable gaming could work well together. The only hurdle would be storage space.SuperNecro

Very true. I love being abel to haul around 3 games or more without carrying cases. I usally Have 1 umd in my psp with at least 2 DD games as of now its prinny umd and kingdom of paradise and RE1 as DD.

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#26 Furi-Kun
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It's way too expensive. It's almost the same price as as a Wii.

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#27 Gxgear
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PSP Go is like a slap in the face to exisiting PSP supporters. People have accepted the new UMD disk format back then, and now are now being told to convert to a new handheld priced like a console.

If the launch library is big enough with good titles, I might just pick it up. But it's unlikely that this will end well.

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#28 navstar29
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PSP Go is like a slap in the face to exisiting PSP supporters. People have accepted the new UMD disk format back then, and now are now being told to convert to a new handheld priced like a console.

If the launch library is big enough with good titles, I might just pick it up. But it's unlikely that this will end well.

Gxgear
why do people think that sony is stopping production of the psp3000. They're going to be sold side by side!
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

PSP Go is like a slap in the face to exisiting PSP supporters. People have accepted the new UMD disk format back then, and now are now being told to convert to a new handheld priced like a console.

If the launch library is big enough with good titles, I might just pick it up. But it's unlikely that this will end well.

navstar29
why do people think that sony is stopping production of the psp3000. They're going to be sold side by side!

Exactly...don't people read up on this stuff? DId you whiners even watch the E3 press confrence? It seems that people have ADHD or something...pay attention... No support is being dropped from umd. They will continue to support both, psp 3000 is still being made. The psp go is NOT a new system its an addtion to the psp forms..hence why still one analog stick. There is no reason to be complaining at all. No one id forcing you to buy it, Any game that comes out will work on your psp1000/2000/3000 or go.... Only the small games will be DD only like Holy invasion of privacy badman, what did i do to deserve this (love that game!!!!!!!!!) and patapon 2, big titles like FF:disiddia, GT portable, etc.. will be both... and hell you can still download games on other psps there is no problem, you people whine about this for nothing. Don't buy it and buy a psp3000...big deal. I got both psp 2000 and 3000 and will be buying the go because I love psp ... its a small extra portable device I can put in my pocket with 16gb internal mem and another 16gb mem stick thats 32 gb. PSP gaems vary from 40mb to 1.8gb max...most are under a gig. Hell even the 3 disc FF7 is only 1.3gb. I currently have on my 4gb stick for my psp3000 - FF7, Metal GearSolid, Badman, Wipeuot pure, Suikoden1, wild arms 1, , Castlevania sotn, brave story new traveler, and crash bandicoot 2, with space to boot.
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#31 DethSkematik
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i wish it was cheaper. 250 is way to much.

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Yeah, that's what is breaking my balls right now. If it were the same price as the regular PSP (which, honestly, I don't see any MAJOR difference from them), I'd get that for the convenience. Anyway, DD isn't always a bad thing. On consoles, yes, I'm sticking to discs. On PC though, I'm a huge fan of Steam (and I bring my laptop everywhere I go), so nowdays I don't buy retail PC games...and honestly...popping in CDs in your computer is so...1990's :P
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#32 Ciocio3I3
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the psp go is perfect for jogging

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#33 tester962
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I agree that for portables downloading games onto it is perfect. Makes alot of sense for the portability factor of the system. I am completely against doing it for consoles however. I prefer to own a hard copy of any game I have. When and if consoles in the future stop using discs, cartridges, or whatever they use in the future, is the day I stop playing any new games ever again. Plenty of games still to play in this and previous generations. I will completely stop buying any new game if all games become download only.

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#34 smokingsbad
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i wish it was cheaper. 250 is way to much.

finalfantasy94
I actually never knew it was 250:? It should be 200
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#35 monson21502
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i was hoping the dsi would flop. that is worse then the psp go. but both are a big rip off
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I'll be the first to admit I hate DD, but I see it having a future with handhelds. Storage shouldn't really be a problem with the Go, and you should be able to delete whatever you have and download it again for free.It should also give a lot of developer's to do what there doing with the Iphone, and that's test out new idea's for cheap without having much risk involved. My only real problem with the Go is the design. It looks pretty good when its closed,but the positioning looks like it might be a problem if your playing for long. It should have a second analog stick,all PSP's should,but it's not like they can just introduce it on the go with out excluding all the people with older PSP, seeing as every developer would use it for every new game,but then every psp there is usless when it comes to new games. If this was the true successor to the PSP then I'd be more then a little upset but it's like the DS Lite or the DSI. The price is a little steep but Sony's said its basically for early adopter's and I'd say that it'll have a price-cut within 6 months or so,depending on how well it sells.

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#37 darth-pyschosis
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i was hoping the dsi would flop. that is worse then the psp go. but both are a big rip offmonson21502

Except this

1. DSi has a new way for users to input control and it has proven great in games like WarioWare, and Augmented Reality games like GhostWire

2. DSi is a new generation, with new DSi ware games (that infact DSi ware has as many A, AA games this year as the PSP this year) and will have new DSi only games sold at store. New input, new games= new generation also it has new hardware

3. DSi gives you two cameras, new photo editing software, new music software, new exclusive games, better WiFi, SDHC card slot for storage, Bigger Screens, better buttons, plays the stellar DS library which is already much stronger than the PSPs (critically and IMO) and is smaller, has 2-4 the hardware power and is only $40 more.

PSP go adds what, Bluetooth? Its a PSP 3000 with slide out controls and no disc drive

PSP Go is like not taking out the GBA slot but taking out the DS game slot of the DSi.

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#38 KungfuKitten
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To be succesful with a DD only platform, You will first need to introduce DD piracy.

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#39 AmayaPapaya
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Don't worry. It's going to flop Hard....well technically, no one expects it too sell at all, so its not really floping if you expect it to do horribly. So i guess you can say it will flop for Sony. For the rest of the world however...

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#40 HipYoungster42
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I'm not going to be buying the thing any time soon, but I want the PSP Go to succeed. I don't want the thing to fail just 'cause I'm not gonna' buy it.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]The Psp go has to be the worst idea Sony ever came up with, they could bleed millions when that monstrosity fails, what are these people thinking, piracy is back but DD wont save them one bit, it could slow psp hardware sales like a lethal disease and hurt the attache ratio, which is already small, 5 games last time I checked? I wish they could rethink this garbage and put a damn UMD drive in that "thing" Androvinus
relax dude they are still supporting the psp3000. the go is just for the people who dare to be different

That's like Nintendo telling you the DSi isn't going to replace current DSLs or that the GBA was never going to be replaced by the DS. Sony's PSP Go may be their next system if it sells well. Why support two products when one is more superior or "new" in the sense that it just will attract more audience members. I believe the PSP Go is a test, if it sells well, the PSP 3000 will be slowly removed.
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#42 Nonstop-Madness
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DD is a plus imo. I dont feel like carrying UMD Discs everywhere withme. I think people would be happy to see a 8GB PSP GO for $200, hopefully they announce it at TGS.
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#43 LightR
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I might get it since I don't have a PSP yet and I want MGS: Peace Walker and GT. Also the small size is a bigbonus for me.

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#44 MoonMarvel
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I wasn't going to buy it anyway. Don't panic, DD will NEVER over take discs. So stop worrying about it. The fact prices would drop is more than enough to keep DD from taking over.
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#45 RedruM_I
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You say to us not to support a product of a company that supports DD only games but you support a product of a company that charges for online? :roll:
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#46 MassiveKaos
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It should be $199.99 max.

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agreed and i dont really agree with Bioshock alot of the times...

DS >>>>>>> PSP

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I agree. With companies flat out saying that they want to get rid of the second hand and rental markets (which an all-DDL market will allow them to do) I can't see how anyone would willingly support such a push.
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#48 Tjeremiah1988
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DD sucks. No more selling or trading games. I will no longer to get things for less with no taxes and before the release date :(
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#49 kentaro22
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If the price was under $200 and had better battery life, I would be all over it.
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#50 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="Androvinus"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]The Psp go has to be the worst idea Sony ever came up with, they could bleed millions when that monstrosity fails, what are these people thinking, piracy is back but DD wont save them one bit, it could slow psp hardware sales like a lethal disease and hurt the attache ratio, which is already small, 5 games last time I checked? I wish they could rethink this garbage and put a damn UMD drive in that "thing" yoshi_64
relax dude they are still supporting the psp3000. the go is just for the people who dare to be different

That's like Nintendo telling you the DSi isn't going to replace current DSLs or that the GBA was never going to be replaced by the DS. Sony's PSP Go may be their next system if it sells well. Why support two products when one is more superior or "new" in the sense that it just will attract more audience members. I believe the PSP Go is a test, if it sells well, the PSP 3000 will be slowly removed.

but all PSP Go games can be played on a 3000, and there is no new hardware inside the Go that isn't in the 3000

the DSi is more powerful than the DS Lite and there is and will be more games only capable on it and not on DS lite. Same for DS it had better hardware than the GBA and had games not capable on GBA

PSP Go is just a PSP 3000 without a UMD drive. No second analog. It hardly has a chance to replace 3000, unless Sony wants the PSP to sell less than 3 million in NA per year even more.

Nintendo may not make DSi its full blown next generation handheld, but they're at least setting it up to have the chance at it with new user input control methods, new hardware that could show a significant increase if used properly, new memory capacity for game cards on DSi, DLC, all stuff unheard of on DS lite. If Nintendo wants to pull the trigger they can, but perhaps 6 million DSi's sold isn't enough yet.

I'd say the DSi is more the GBC of this DS platform where as the PSP Go, what the Game Boy Micro? But at least the GBM played GBA games without needing an internet connection.

Unless the Go ships with significantly better hardware inside than the 3000, i see no possiblity it would ever turn into a new handheld

Unlike Nintendo, who is at least leaving the door open for DSi to turn into DS2, if given the right amount of sales (and it looks like it will have 15 million or more by next spring)