I just finsihed mgs 4 and i msut say...

that the game was freaking epic IMO nothing will ever come close to mgs4 story wise the whole game felt like a movie and the gameplay was just perfect best game ive ever played

Write a blog.Synthetic_NinJI

They made combat too easy.

They should have made combat terrible and clumsy like the other MGS games so you would have to be sneaky (which is more fun than shooting)

But other than that it was a fine game with well directed cutscenes.

Over rated to the sky and back.CreepyBacon

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.nintendo-4life

Ask him if he thinks Gears or Halo is overrated.

Then you may find an answer.

Over rated to the sky and back.CreepyBacon

Care to explain? :|

I was unaware of the fact that being "like a movie" was actually a good thing for a video game.

I feel that developers should actually try to take advantage of the video game medium for story-telling purposes, as the developers of Planescape: Torment and Deus Ex did, rather than copy the conventions of other media.

I very much preferred both of the aforementioned games, in pretty much all aspects-including story-over MGS4, along with most other games ever made.

Over rated to the sky and back.CreepyBacon

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Animal-Mother

Didn't like the game but to each his own.Synthetic_NinJI

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Didn't like the game but to each his own.sillaris

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Didn't like the game but to each his own.sillaris

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

[QUOTE="sillaris"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Didn't like the game but to each his own.Synthetic_NinJI

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Didn't like the game but to each his own.sillaris

I wouldn't call the story good, but dense.

It's an over used plot used in movies, books and vidya games.

However, Kojima goes really in depth and over complicates everything.

The only thing somewhat original in MGS is the characters, but even then they are just renamed and slightly tweaked characters from various action movies and animes.

The thing that saves it is how well it's presented.

I'm not hating either, I am a fan of MGS, however i'm not a fanboy.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Synthetic_NinJI

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="sillaris"] GOTY MGS4 has the best story of any game ever... keep hatingsillaris

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]Didn't like the game but to each his own.sillaris

how's that hating? you fanboys sure get touchy easily

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="sillaris"] o so all those awards the game won means nothing? keep on hatingsillaris

Nobody but fanboys thought that the plot was the best.

It was written in the standard kojima style.

A standard action story with some humor and a few crazy characters.

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

BioShockOwnz

Thast your OPINION but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;) What did you not like about it?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

-Ichigo1987-

That your opinion but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;)

Don't speak in absolutes like that.

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I didn't think it was a superb game. I didn't even think it was a great game. I simply thought it was a decent game-I've played many, many games that took advantage of the medium far better than MGS4 (or any MGS game, for that matter), and, as a result, I didn't find it to be anything special. At the same time, I can see what other people appreciate in it, but, quite frankly, I have no idea of why they would appreciate what I think they would appreciate.

also, a lot of the things that happen towards the end seem very... i dont know whats the word for it but it seemed like they were trying too hard. like they just wanted to add more and more plot twists. so many plot twists in fact that a lot of what happens towards the end is just not believable. i found my self goin "are you SERIOUS?! REALLY?! REALLY?!"

this is also my problem with mgs2. 2 and 4's stories come off as a big load of BS. 4 to a lesser degree than 2 but still.

that is why 1 and 3 are the better mgs titles in terms of narrative. 4 for gameplay and SOME good narrative.

Over rated to the sky and back.CreepyBacon

[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

thepwninator

That your opinion but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;)

Don't speak in absolutes like that.

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I didn't think it was a superb game. I didn't even think it was a great game. I simply thought it was a decent game-I've played many, many games that took advantage of the medium far better than MGS4 (or any MGS game, for that matter), and, as a result, I didn't find it to be anything special. At the same time, I can see what other people appreciate in it, but, quite frankly, I have no idea of why they would appreciate what I think they would appreciate.

Everyone else says different, but you guys are entitled to your ill made opinions. Also don't tell me how to talk, got it;) Your opinions are in the minority for a reason, MGS4 was a spectacular game

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

That your opinion but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;)

-Ichigo1987-

Don't speak in absolutes like that.

_______________

I didn't think it was a superb game. I didn't even think it was a great game. I simply thought it was a decent game-I've played many, many games that took advantage of the medium far better than MGS4 (or any MGS game, for that matter), and, as a result, I didn't find it to be anything special. At the same time, I can see what other people appreciate in it, but, quite frankly, I have no idea of why they would appreciate what I think they would appreciate.

Everyone else says different, but you guys are entitled to your ill made opinions. Also don't tell me how to talk, got it;) Your opinions are in the minority for a reason, MGS4 was a spectacular game

[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="thepwninator"] Or he's capable of appreciating superb games, but MGS4 simply wasn't one?

Don't speak in absolutes like that.

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I didn't think it was a superb game. I didn't even think it was a great game. I simply thought it was a decent game-I've played many, many games that took advantage of the medium far better than MGS4 (or any MGS game, for that matter), and, as a result, I didn't find it to be anything special. At the same time, I can see what other people appreciate in it, but, quite frankly, I have no idea of why they would appreciate what I think they would appreciate.

thepwninator

Everyone else says different, but you guys are entitled to your ill made opinions. Also don't tell me how to talk, got it;) Your opinions are in the minority for a reason, MGS4 was a spectacular game

yes thats very true, its all just opinions i guess, well I'll just say that MGS4 is one of the most acclaimed games this generation

[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

thepwninator

That your opinion but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;)

Don't speak in absolutes like that.

_______________

I didn't think it was a superb game. I didn't even think it was a great game. I simply thought it was a decent game-I've played many, many games that took advantage of the medium far better than MGS4 (or any MGS game, for that matter), and, as a result, I didn't find it to be anything special. At the same time, I can see what other people appreciate in it, but, quite frankly, I have no idea of why they would appreciate what I think they would appreciate.

Indeed. All art is subjective. I see people trashing Super Mario Galaxy all the time, yet it's the second highest rated games of all-time according to GameRankings.

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Animal-Mother