I just finsihed mgs 4 and i msut say...

As much as I love MGS4 Op, but I think KZ2 is going to be better :)WhySoSerious300

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.Juggernaut140

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

-Ichigo1987-

Thast your OPINION but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;) What did you not like about it?

oh no he's got a different opinion from my own, clearly he has some kind of a mental problem :roll:

Good storytelling and good story are too different things. You need to read more books if you think MGS4's story was stellar...Blue-Sky

Good storytelling and good story are too different things. You need to read more books if you think MGS4's story was stellar...Blue-Sky

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]Good storytelling and good story are too different things. You need to read more books if you think MGS4's story was stellar...Synthetic_NinJI

ppfftt DC> Marvel

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="sillaris"] o so all those awards the game won means nothing? keep on hatingsillaris

[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I usually can respect a developers vision for the art that they're creating, but MGS4 was a game that failed to impress me in almost every single way. There's games like ICO, SOTC, Okami, and so many others that truly present a masterpiece of artistic integrity -- and while not all of these games impress me in the gameplay department, I can atleast see the vision they had for them and created around them. MGS4 didn't impress me in even that sense. While a lot of the cutscenes were done very well -- MGS4 provided a mildly amusing playthrough, but not anything I'd say as "the best game ever". It disappointed too much to earn that title, imo.

Planescape: Torment, Deux Ex, System Shock 2, Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, and so many other titles would come well ahead of Kojima's latest title for me.

st1ka

Thast your OPINION but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;) What did you not like about it?

oh no he's got a different opinion from my own, clearly he has some kind of a mental problem :roll:

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

Thast your OPINION but it seems theres nothing wrong with MGS4, the problem is that you just don't know how to appreciate a superb game;) What did you not like about it?

thepwninator

oh no he's got a different opinion from my own, clearly he has some kind of a mental problem :roll:

and yet you're still one of the users with the most common sense here.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

oh no he's got a different opinion from my own, clearly he has some kind of a mental problem :roll:

st1ka

and yet you're still one of the users with the most common sense here.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="thepwninator"] Well, I do have a few mental problems, but I don't think that they affect my taste in games too much ;)thepwninator

and yet you're still one of the users with the most common sense here.

i think we all have stories like that

I personally was not able to get much further than 10-15 minute, non-interactive intro. To each their own so if you are pateint enough to sit through that ten my hat goes off to you. When you get to be my age though, your patience starts to wane so a game like MSG4 might not sit with me well when the thing I want to do most when playing a videogame is PLAY. I do not feel I am really qualified to speak on its story so I won't go there in depth, but it must be said that points have to be taken off of the series when the title and the history do not match up. The perfect example of this is MGS3.

Please explain to me how the game can be titled MGS3 and the story is supposed to pre-date Metal Gear NES. Even a jerk like George Lucas had enough sense to chronologically name his Star Wars flicks correctly (Episode 1-6). Resident Evil eben got it right with RE0. For god's sake, even a game most of you despis, Pefect Dark Zero, got it right. How come with all the talen and imagination that Team Kojima posseses, a tiny little detail like that was able to slip through the cracks?

whole game felt like a movie

gaara-pata

[QUOTE="gaara-pata"]

whole game felt like a movie

DonMarkito

[QUOTE="DonMarkito"][QUOTE="gaara-pata"]

whole game felt like a movie

Eddie-Vedder

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="DonMarkito"] This is why MGS4 is extremly overrated. sinseers

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="DonMarkito"] This is why MGS4 is extremly overrated. sinseers

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

[QUOTE="sinseers"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] lol I guess true games are only games like pong, no cinematics, no music, no story, just pure gameplay. Am I right?Eddie-Vedder

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

Having not played any Metal Gear Solid before MGS4, I loved it. Everything was just so polished and well-done. Turret/vehicle sections and boss fights were epic.

There was a crap load of guns to choose from, there's 12 pistols....like, seriously. Lol.

I loved the game pretty good title except for the lame ending IMOjasonharris48

[QUOTE="gaara-pata"]

whole game felt like a movie

DonMarkito

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="sinseers"]

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

sinseers

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Over rated to the sky and back.MasteRich

[QUOTE="sinseers"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] lol I guess true games are only games like pong, no cinematics, no music, no story, just pure gameplay. Am I right?Eddie-Vedder

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

As far as stories go, MGS4 isnt the best in fact it isnt even in the top 20

Its just redundant and sometimes retarded, like using solidus body parts to construct big bosses body, despite Eve crying when the remains of Solidus were burned in Act 3

And of course retarded plot devices like Drebin ugh...

As far as stories go, MGS4 isnt the best in fact it isnt even in the top 20Stiggsx

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="sinseers"]

Not exactly. We TRUE GAMERS, as you put it, just want more gameplay than cinematics within our game. No diss intended.

Stiggsx

[QUOTE="Stiggsx"]As far as stories go, MGS4 isnt the best in fact it isnt even in the top 200bscurity

I dont disagree with him and i played through it

[QUOTE="Stiggsx"]As far as stories go, MGS4 isnt the best in fact it isnt even in the top 200bscurity

your opinion =/= fact. sorry to break it to you

[QUOTE="0bscurity"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]As far as stories go, MGS4 isnt the best in fact it isnt even in the top 20EndorphinMaster

your opinion =/= fact. sorry to break it to you

Oh no! Someone on a forum disagreeing with me!

:roll:

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="0bscurity"] In your opinion, of course. Any one who's actually played the game would disagree and that's a fact.0bscurity

your opinion =/= fact. sorry to break it to you

Oh no! Someone on a forum disagreeing with me!

:roll:

don't take it to hard

that the game was freaking epic IMO nothing will ever come close to mgs4 story wise the whole game felt like a movie and the gameplay was just perfect best game ive ever played

gaara-pata

Please people, it doesn't matter WHAT game you pick, there will always be people who wouldn't considered it, "The best game this gen", due to one and one thing only: Opinions.

My opinion may not be the same as yours, but a majority of people who played through MGS4 say it was the best game they played this gen, and I would have to agree thus far. While you might not agree with this, it doesn't change the fact that a whole lot of people do. Overrated? Not at all. The game deserves all the hype it gets. If it isn't your cup of tea, your loss I guess. Maybe the majority who didn't care for MGS4 should play 1-3 first. It might make things a little easier to understand, but I assumed that was just common sense.