I See Why Sony Shows CGI Trailers

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

Take a good look cows

Look at the liquid physics, the lighting, the detail ESPECIALLY on Kratos himself. That kind of detail is unattainable in real-time with current hardware. A high-end PC couldn't run that, heck, most guys can't even run Crysis on high and while this looks twice as good as high Crysis.

Please, the CGI trailers are merely representations of the games that will be released. The KZ2 trailer was reached, but it was defintely more attainable than the GOW3 trailer.

-Renegade

To say that a high end PC can't do it is preposterous. Just take one look at Project Offset. Anyways Gamespot says that the game is close to the CG trailer. Gamespot > You

Yeah but that trailer was only CGI a video not even running on ps3,but hell.. a sony fanboy like you will eat up everything sony says.

I can't keep laughing at this thread.:D

if cows believe cell + rsx can make cgi like game.

then cgi like game already exist on xb360

how about farcry2 (ps3, xb360)

KZ2 looks very good.... but nowhere as good as the CGI trailer. Same with MotorStorm.

Honestly people.

MGS4 matched the original cgi trailer. The only difference was slightly less yellow filter in the final game's opening, and Snake looking even better. Sony has had a VERY good record this gen for graphics matching cgi trailers. HS, Motorstorm, Killzone 2, MGS4, and Heavy Rain (I'm sure I'm missing some) all had cgi trailers, and have come very close to matching them.mbrockway

so, that's your conclusion?

I can't believe fanboy can be such blind . just take motorstorm for example.

MOTORSTORM 05 CG

motorstorm 06 gameplay

GoW3 won't look anything like its CGI trailer, and neither will MAGKritical_Strike

People said the same with killzone 2 and metal gear solid 4. And we already know what happened with MGS4. It didnt just deliver in graphics it also delivered in every other area aswell. :)

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]GoW3 won't look anything like its CGI trailer, and neither will MAGclintos59

People said the same with killzone 2 and metal gear solid 4. And we already know what happened with MGS4. It didnt just deliver in graphics it also delivered in every other area aswell. :)

Both of those games looks so much worse than their first target renders.....

It no where near close to the level of realism in the CGI trailers. KZ2 looks phenominal, but don't tell me KZ2 came close to looking like the CG.too_much_eslim

Yes actually, it did.

The only big things that aren't the same are the facial expressions and the draw distance. Everything else comes insanely close to the target render.

I see why too. They have no convincing gameplay to show (as the games are early in development and are years away from completion,) so they show CGI to hype to the masses instead.

Killzone 2 looks good, really good, but the CGI trailer was misleading, period. It may sport the same art style, locales and color palette but it does not have the same visual fidelity (textures for one, are light years apart in terms of quality).

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It no where near close to the level of realism in the CGI trailers. KZ2 looks phenominal, but don't tell me KZ2 came close to looking like the CG.Pariah_001

Yes actually, it did.

The only big things that aren't the same are the facial expressions and the draw distance. Everything else comes insanely close to the target render.

When they showed the trailer back in 2005, it made peoples jaw drop.

Now in 2008 it seems possible for games to look that good.

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

Look at the liquid physics, the lighting, the detail ESPECIALLY on Kratos himself. That kind of detail is unattainable in real-time with current hardware. A high-end PC couldn't run that, heck, most guys can't even run Crysis on high and while this looks twice as good as high Crysis.

Please, the CGI trailers are merely representations of the games that will be released. The KZ2 trailer was reached, but it was defintely more attainable than the GOW3 trailer.

-Renegade

To say that a high end PC can't do it is preposterous. Just take one look at Project Offset. Anyways Gamespot says that the game is close to the CG trailer. Gamespot > You

Whoever said that is a total idiot, its a PRE-RENDERED CGI TRAILER!!!!. The insanely detailed, high polly characters and environments and the effects are not even close to being achievable in real-time on any home pc let alone a console. Its crazy to even compare a game to a CGI trailer. The trailer wasn't created as a technical goal for them to reach, what the trailer was trying to get across was the realistic and chaotic warfare that will be in the game, and the look of the environments, but obviously that's not to say the game is close to that level of graphical detail.

I also wanted to add something about your knowledge but it would be insulting and i dont want to be suspended but anyone who thinks that CGI and ingame from killzone is "near" should be insulted

I also wanted to add something about your knowledge but it would be insulting and i dont want to be suspended but anyone who thinks that CGI and ingame from killzone is "near" should be insulted

_rpg_FAN

Yea pretty much, when sites like gamespot say it looks like the CGI trailer they mean the style of the environments and the gameplay, the realistic camera movements look great in the game play vids and the cgi trailer clearly showed this too.

[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

I also wanted to add something about your knowledge but it would be insulting and i dont want to be suspended but anyone who thinks that CGI and ingame from killzone is "near" should be insulted

Michael_abc

Yea pretty much, when sites like gamespot say it looks like the CGI trailer they mean the style of the environments and the gameplay, the realistic camera movements look great in the game play vids and the cgi trailer clearly showed this too.

Yes but unfortunately some people think that graphics (models textures shaders etc.) are "same" in CGI and ingame ....

Probably because they watch too many YOUTUBE where you cant see mistakes.

KILLZONE 2 HAVE AWFULL LOT OF JAGGIES and its rediculous to say its "near CGI trailer" ingame MODELS are lot worse than CGI,lightning is worse (CGI actualy had more colour than gray) etc.

Not saying that KZ 2 looks bad - far from it. But comparing it to CGI trailer is sorry but dumb. Like you said - they have similar camera movement and that "cinematic feel" but from tehnical standpoint its just 2 different worlds,something that even high end PC's cant run not some 2 year old console

I'm sure any dev that has 4 years to spend on making a game can make it look stunning, thing is you've been waiting for 4 years. KZ2 might look a bit better than gears of war.

But guess what? 2 gears of wars>1 killzone

Same goes for a TON of games so hard luck.

Hehehe Some people may call me blind but recent gameplay videos show a Kz2 visually just as good as the original CGI trailerAgentA-Mi6

gotta love americans sometimes...much better sense of humour. They love Mr bean more than brits.

Anyway, sony shows CGI b/c they know the PS3 can never be as powerful as a high end PC.

I'm sure any dev that has 4 years to spend on making a game can make it look stunning, thing is you've been waiting for 4 years. KZ2 might look a bit better than gears of war.

But guess what? 2 gears of wars>1 killzone

Same goes for a TON of games so hard luck.

CreepyBacon

You know Gears 1 does hold up pretty well... looks like it boils down more to artwork and some technicall stuff...

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13254

And again, ita all about graphics. Did we as a community forget everything that we learned from Lair?SpruceCaboose

They use CGI 'cause either :

1. The in-game engine isn't good enough to show yet.

or

2.CGI would be more immpressive any so they might aswell use it.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And again, ita all about graphics. Did we as a community forget everything that we learned from Lair?jg4xchamp

Sadly, I remember playing it.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And again, ita all about graphics. Did we as a community forget everything that we learned from Lair?SpruceCaboose

Sadly, I remember playing it.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]And again, ita all about graphics. Did we as a community forget everything that we learned from Lair?jg4xchamp

Sadly, I remember playing it.

:lol: oh come on how bad could it have been?jg4xchamp

It looks great, sounds great....unfortunately it plays like being drunk while trying to control a speeding big rig going downhill on ice.

Your siggy says you have a PS3....rent it. I dare you! And make sure you don't get the patch and play with the SIXAXIS motion...

*Shudders* Never again....

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] :lol: oh come on how bad could it have been?SpruceCaboose

It looks great, sounds great....unfortunately it plays like being drunk while trying to control a speeding big rig going downhill on ice.

Your siggy says you have a PS3....rent it. I dare you! And make sure you don't get the patch and play with the SIXAXIS motion...

*Shudders* Never again....

It might just play a bit better, maybe even AA :o

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] :lol: oh come on how bad could it have been?angelkimne

It looks great, sounds great....unfortunately it plays like being drunk while trying to control a speeding big rig going downhill on ice.

Your siggy says you have a PS3....rent it. I dare you! And make sure you don't get the patch and play with the SIXAXIS motion...

*Shudders* Never again....

It might just play a bit better, maybe even AA :o

It gets no second chance for me.When I spent money on it, it should have worked to begin with.:D

Besides, people say that the stick controls are wonky.

It's 2005 all over again.

More hype about stupid CGI movies and now people are claiming games looks exactly like CGI.

:lol:

Guess they still haven't learned yet.

I already played a game two years ago that looked almost as good as the KZ2 E3 '05 trailer. Its called Gears of War.

Oh and there's a game coming out this year that already beats the KZ2 E3 '05 trailer. Its called Gears of War 2.

Why are PS3 fanboys always so late to the party?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] :lol: oh come on how bad could it have been?angelkimne

It looks great, sounds great....unfortunately it plays like being drunk while trying to control a speeding big rig going downhill on ice.

Your siggy says you have a PS3....rent it. I dare you! And make sure you don't get the patch and play with the SIXAXIS motion...

*Shudders* Never again....

It might just play a bit better, maybe even AA :o

Sure as hell not buying it though.

It's called running every play from the Sun Tzu playbook, when you are weak you try to appear strong.

Plus it also helps that you guys fall for it every time.

Sony 38 months ago: Don't buy a 360 KZ2 is comming soon!!!!

Sony 30 months ago: Don't buy a 360 GT5 is comming soon!!!

Sony 24 months ago :Don't buy a 360 FFXIII is comming soon!!!

Sony last week: Don't buy a 360 GoW3 and MAG is comming soon!!!

Sony to fans for this entire gen: CGI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>release dates!!!!!

Lol, at peoples gullibility.

[QUOTE="clintos59"]

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]GoW3 won't look anything like its CGI trailer, and neither will MAGIgorVitaly

People said the same with killzone 2 and metal gear solid 4. And we already know what happened with MGS4. It didnt just deliver in graphics it also delivered in every other area aswell. :)

Both of those games looks so much worse than their first target renders.....

I think thats only to people who dont want to take off the fanboy goggles. Even gamespot, ign and gamepro and many other game sites say the visuals are the best this next gen for a console game. What more proof do u need?

And u say it didnt live up to what was shown, lol. Yeah whatever u say dude.

GoW3 won't look anything like its CGI trailer, and neither will MAGKritical_Strike

It's called running every play from the Sun Tzu playbook, when you are weak you try to appear strong.

Plus it also helps that you guys fall for it every time.

Sony 38 months ago: Don't buy a 360 KZ2 is comming soon!!!!

Sony 30 months ago: Don't buy a 360 GT5 is comming soon!!!

Sony 24 months ago :Don't buy a 360 FFXIII is comming soon!!!

Sony last week: Don't buy a 360 GoW3 and MAG is comming soon!!!

Sony to fans for this entire gen: CGI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>release dates!!!!!

Lol, at peoples gullibility.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

It's called running every play from the Sun Tzu playbook, when you are weak you try to appear strong.

Plus it also helps that you guys fall for it every time.

Sony 38 months ago: Don't buy a 360 KZ2 is comming soon!!!!

Sony 30 months ago: Don't buy a 360 GT5 is comming soon!!!

Sony 24 months ago :Don't buy a 360 FFXIII is comming soon!!!

Sony last week: Don't buy a 360 GoW3 and MAG is comming soon!!!

Sony to fans for this entire gen: CGI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>release dates!!!!!

Lol, at peoples gullibility.

heretrix

They have no need to hype anything. Sony keeps them pre-occupied with such great games, that a few can get bad scores and it won't effect them.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

It's called running every play from the Sun Tzu playbook, when you are weak you try to appear strong.

Plus it also helps that you guys fall for it every time.

Sony 38 months ago: Don't buy a 360 KZ2 is comming soon!!!!

Sony 30 months ago: Don't buy a 360 GT5 is comming soon!!!

Sony 24 months ago :Don't buy a 360 FFXIII is comming soon!!!

Sony last week: Don't buy a 360 GoW3 and MAG is comming soon!!!

Sony to fans for this entire gen: CGI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>release dates!!!!!

Lol, at peoples gullibility.

DireOwl

They have no need to hype anything. Sony keeps them pre-occupied with such great games, that a few can get bad scores and it won't effect them.