I think its Nintendo's poor marketing for SS that everyone hates.

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#1 n00bproof
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Everyone's talking about how lame Skyward Sword looks... but in all actuality the gameplay looks ALOT better than Twilight Princess.

Back in E3 04, everyone went bat**** INSANE with the debut of Twlight Princess's trailer. It was amazing. But it barely even contained any actual gameplay and alot of things were exaggerated (open forest, huge Hyrule field, etc). We went crazy over the fact that a new Zelda game was coming, not for the gameplay it offered. It played on the senses. But both the Skyward Sword trailers so far have just been bland montages of various gameplay.

If Nintendo put together a trailer using the game's artstyle in a creative way, the backlash wouldn't of been so bad I think.

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#2 Scythes777
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This trailer was just made to shown how the game was coming along, mainly concentrating on the combat. We will get another trailer at E3 that will most likely have much more information in it, along with more hands on impressions.

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The new zelda title looks amazing both graphically and gameplay wise.
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The new Zelda looks disappointing. So far, the trailers have been very hastily put together, and while I like the artstyIe, the actual graphics of this game aren't very impressive. The music doesn't stand out. We have no information about the story (except for knowing that there's a new villain, it's a prequel to every single non Four Swords Zelda game so far, and it takes place in Skyloft), and the gameplay is remarkably unremarkable. Tell me... what exactly are we supposed to be excited for with this game?
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#5 Demonjoe93
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Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

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#6 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

Demonjoe93
I do
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#7 Zurrur
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Lol Zelda already played one, why would i want to play second one? They play exactly same and game doesn't have story

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#8 GreenGoblin2099
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This is what I'm getting from the OP:

If a Zelda game shows too much gameplay, people will realize it sucks. If they show mostly cutscenes and fast glimpses of gameplay, people will think the game is THE ****.

Not sure if I agree, but what can I say... I'm not impressed with this new trailer, so you might be right.

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Lol Zelda already played one, why would i want to play second one? They play exactly same and game doesn't have story

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And this, folks, is what is commonly known as a misinformed or ignorant post.
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#10 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

Robbazking

I do

Why?

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Lol Zelda already played one, why would i want to play second one? They play exactly same and game doesn't have story

Zurrur

Wow, fail. Just fail.

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[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

Demonjoe93

I do

Why?

So am I, and Zelda's my favorite gaming series.
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Lol Zelda already played one, why would i want to play second one? They play exactly same and game doesn't have story

Zurrur

And while we're at it, I bet you're hyped aboutDark Souls.

Now go and hide under your bridge.

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#14 CwlHeddwyn
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I like the graphics and the motion plus gameplay looks good too.

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#15 789shadow
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The new Zelda looks disappointing. So far, the trailers have been very hastily put together, and while I like the artstyIe, the actual graphics of this game aren't very impressive. The music doesn't stand out. We have no information about the story (except for knowing that there's a new villain, it's a prequel to every single non Four Swords Zelda game so far, and it takes place in Skyloft), and the gameplay is remarkably unremarkable. Tell me... what exactly are we supposed to be excited for with this game?charizard1605

How could you possibly make these assumptions from two trailers?

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#16 _BlueDuck_
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It is rather hard to make Zelda look impressive in trailers. Especially with a lot of people who need constant and immediate rewards/gratification in games. And in a generation where even the best of Wii graphics aren't impressive for those who play on superior hardware. What makes the Zelda series so amazing is the constantly superb level and puzzle design. If you look at combat clips from say, Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time, you'd basically see a third person character hacking away at some enemies without much thought. Doesn't look impressive, but as we all know, those games are outstanding, even by today's standards.

Yeah, Nintendo didn't do a good job with the most recent trailer. But a bad trailer in no way discourages me from beleiving that the game design will be top-notch, as it has been in every other game in the series.

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my theory: a blunt majority of the hate stems from it being a wii game period. If this were, oh say a different IP with a different character on another system, it'd be praised to the high heavens as the next "zelda killer" (Darkstakers anyone?)

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#18 Mozelleple112
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Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

Demonjoe93
Me and loads of other people.
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#19 Sledgehammer117
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[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

Lol Zelda already played one, why would i want to play second one? They play exactly same and game doesn't have story

charizard1605
And this, folks, is what is commonly known as a misinformed or ignorant post.

How is it ignorant ?? The guy is right. If he wasn't then you would have countered his claims.
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my theory: a blunt majority of the hate stems from it being a wii game period. If this were, oh say a different IP with a different character on another system, it'd be praised to the high heavens as the next "zelda killer" (Darkstakers anyone?)

Shinobishyguy

What I wonder is, if Zelda is so outdated and in need of revolutionary change (and not that I necessarily disagree with that..), then why is it that not a single game developer has been able to use the formula and best the standards set by a 12 year old Nintendo 64 game?

I give credit to Beyond Good and Evil and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy for putting up a good fight. Darksiders, not so much.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

my theory: a blunt majority of the hate stems from it being a wii game period. If this were, oh say a different IP with a different character on another system, it'd be praised to the high heavens as the next "zelda killer" (Darkstakers anyone?)

_BlueDuck_

What I wonder is, if Zelda is so outdated and in need of revolutionary change (and not that I necessarily disagree with that..), then why is it that not a single game developer has been able to use the formula and best the standards set by a 12 year old Nintendo 64 game?

I give credit to Beyond Good and Evil and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy for putting up a good fight. Darksiders, not so much.

When a Zelda game comes along that is similar to previous ones, people say they hate it and say they want the series to go in a different direction.

When a Zelda game comes along that is different than the previous ones, people say they hate it and say they want it to go back to its roots and be more like previous Zelda games.

You just can't win with this franchise. All I know is the games never cease to be fun. That's all that matters really.

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#22 lordlors
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

Mozelleple112
Me and loads of other people.

Remember how people shrugged off Mario Galaxy 2 because it's same ol Galaxy but managed to get a 10?
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#23 lordlors
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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

my theory: a blunt majority of the hate stems from it being a wii game period. If this were, oh say a different IP with a different character on another system, it'd be praised to the high heavens as the next "zelda killer" (Darkstakers anyone?)

Wii4Fun

What I wonder is, if Zelda is so outdated and in need of revolutionary change (and not that I necessarily disagree with that..), then why is it that not a single game developer has been able to use the formula and best the standards set by a 12 year old Nintendo 64 game?

I give credit to Beyond Good and Evil and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy for putting up a good fight. Darksiders, not so much.

When a Zelda game comes along that is similar to previous ones, people say they hate it and say they want the series to go in a different direction.

When a Zelda game comes along that is different than the previous ones, people say they hate it and say they want it to go back to its roots and be more like previous Zelda games.

You just can't win with this franchise. All I know is the games never cease to be fun. That's all that matters really.

Agreed. Actually, i suggest to nintendo to "never" listen to the so called Zelda fans.
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#24 Big_Pecks
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I think Nintendo is trying to keep SS hidden from the public to surprise us with the plot and gameplay and such.

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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

my theory: a blunt majority of the hate stems from it being a wii game period. If this were, oh say a different IP with a different character on another system, it'd be praised to the high heavens as the next "zelda killer" (Darkstakers anyone?)

Wii4Fun

What I wonder is, if Zelda is so outdated and in need of revolutionary change (and not that I necessarily disagree with that..), then why is it that not a single game developer has been able to use the formula and best the standards set by a 12 year old Nintendo 64 game?

I give credit to Beyond Good and Evil and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy for putting up a good fight. Darksiders, not so much.

When a Zelda game comes along that is similar to previous ones, people say they hate it and say they want the series to go in a different direction.

When a Zelda game comes along that is different than the previous ones, people say they hate it and say they want it to go back to its roots and be more like previous Zelda games.

You just can't win with this franchise. All I know is the games never cease to be fun. That's all that matters really.

Agree with everything you just said. Zelda games have never disappointed me.
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#26 tomarlyn
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TP's hype was huge because of the gameplay even though it failed to deliver. We wanted to swing the sword with intent not waggle it. I can't wait to feel the improvements M+ bring to the action, I just hope the swordplay is't as easy as Wii Sports Resort.
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#27 TehOverkill
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This is a gameplay trailer, not a presentation. We're going to get some nice video-fodder that has nothing to do with the way the game is just to let people who value trailers over gameplay hyped.

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TP's hype was huge because of the gameplay even though it failed to deliver. We wanted to swing the sword with intent not waggle it. I can't wait to feel the improvements M+ bring to the action, I just hope the swordplay is't as easy as Wii Sports Resort.tomarlyn

tomarlyn looking forward to a motion control game?

*Head explodes*

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All I can't stand is the art styIe. It reminds me too much of Wind Waker. If only they could have used higher quality textures. >_>

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Nintendo's strategy for a while has been show games when they're late in production. The less they show, the better for me. Theres less of a 'hype' build up and less to be disappointed by.

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#31 Basinboy
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Nintendo's strategy for a while has been show games when they're late in production. The less they show, the better for me. Theres less of a 'hype' build up and less to be disappointed by.

Haziqonfire
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#32 yellonet
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[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

Lol Zelda already played one, why would i want to play second one? They play exactly same and game doesn't have story

charizard1605

And this, folks, is what is commonly known as a misinformed or ignorant post.

Actually, that would be a misinformed or ignorant person.

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#33 silversix_
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Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.
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#34 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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A lot of people probably hate the wii since they are not anime fans or in the mood to play childish games.

[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Who's been calling Skyward Sword lame?

Demonjoe93

I do

Why?

Since it ends up just like fps games, nothing new.

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#35 93BlackHawk93
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Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.silversix_

Last Mario sucked!?

What is this... I don't even...

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.93BlackHawk93

Last Mario sucked!?

What is this... I don't even...

Didn't you hear? 10 is the new 0.

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#37 Chutebox
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Who's talking about how lame it looks? The game looks pretty awesome in every aspect to me.

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#38 TehOverkill
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Poor marketting for the SS? I heard their advertising agent was a genius.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Nintendo's strategy for a while has been show games when they're late in production. The less they show, the better for me. Theres less of a 'hype' build up and less to be disappointed by.

Basinboy

:|

Hi.

I do this all the time with games, I do a media block out. The first trailer of Skyward Sword was basically enough to make me pleased about what I saw and the details of making it MotionPlus exclusive was also pretty much all I needed.

I've done this countless times with games in the past. SMG2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherood, Epic Mickey, etc.

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#40 Wii4Fun
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[QUOTE="Basinboy"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Nintendo's strategy for a while has been show games when they're late in production. The less they show, the better for me. Theres less of a 'hype' build up and less to be disappointed by.

Haziqonfire

:|

Hi.

I do this all the time with games, I do a media block out. The first trailer of Skyward Sword was basically enough to make me pleased about what I saw and the details of making it MotionPlus exclusive was also pretty much all I needed.

I've done this countless times with games in the past. SMG2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherood, Epic Mickey, etc.

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that.

I should start doing it as well. I don't really like hyping games.

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Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.silversix_

.

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.Shinobishyguy

.

I actually think he was referring to Mario Sports Mix and not the title you're probably thinking of (Super Mario Galaxy 2).

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#43 Demonjoe93
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A lot of people probably hate the wii since they are not anime fans or in the mood to play childish games.

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="Robbazking"] I doRobbazking

Why?

Since it ends up just like fps games, nothing new.

That part about the anime fans and childish games is just BS (not even sure if serious), and The Legend of Zelda has innovated way more than most FPSs have.

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#44 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.TehOverkill

Last Mario sucked!?

What is this... I don't even...

Didn't you hear? 10 is the new 0.

I knew it! Surely that 1 is just a typo...
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#45 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="TehOverkill"]

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

Last Mario sucked!?

What is this... I don't even...

charizard1605

Didn't you hear? 10 is the new 0.

I knew it! Surely that 1 is just a typo...

I never thought of that before! I'l betcha Ocarina of Time's 10 was a typo too!;)

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TehOverkill"]

Didn't you hear? 10 is the new 0.

Demonjoe93

I knew it! Surely that 1 is just a typo...

I never thought of that before! I'l betcha Ocarina of Time's 10 was a typo too!;)

:shock: This changes everything!
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Last Metroid sucked. Last Mario sucked. Time for Zelda to suck.silversix_

W-whhaaa......wuuuuu....?????

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#48 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]TP's hype was huge because of the gameplay even though it failed to deliver. We wanted to swing the sword with intent not waggle it. I can't wait to feel the improvements M+ bring to the action, I just hope the swordplay is't as easy as Wii Sports Resort.Wii4Fun

tomarlyn looking forward to a motion control game?

*Head explodes*

No, looking forward to a good Wii game. I jest :P I'm a big Zelda fan and the rushed, tacked-on waggle controls of TP made me a sad panda.
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#49 Mrmccormo
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How can you know what the gameplay is like until you play it? And the difference between Twilight Princess's debut and the actual game may have led people to stop giving Zelda the benefit of the doubt. it has nothing to do with marketing. It has nothing to do with the trailers. It has to do with Nintendo showing off gameplay and content that isn't compelling to certain people.
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#50 LegatoSkyheart
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I'm just hoping that it's a Good game.