I think the 360 might be screwed next gen...

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With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

I don't see why it can't use BR.

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Blue-Sky

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

1. Sony can always license Blu_ray out for other companies use.
2. Microsoft can make their own format for game or whatever, just like Nintendo does, at least that's what I heard they do.

1. Sony can always license Blu_ray out for other companies use.
2. Microsoft can make their own format for game or whatever, just like Nintendo does, at least that's what I heard they do.

lantus

Are you sure? I think I heard that Nintendo also uses DVD9

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

Why would sony not let microsoft use their disc format for the next gen. If that happens microsoft won't allow blu-ray drives be implemented into windows. Both will need each other if blu-ray does indeed become the next format.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

$$$ is everyones friend. they can license it

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

no there is a consortium of 12 so they could out vote sony

as for the hard drive bit where are you pulling that from?

and why are you calling them the xbox 360 and ps3 thats what we have now, it will be the next xbox and next playstation

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

Business is business, smart business people don't associate fanboy beliefs with business, if I were Sony I would say Hell yes, and get a cut out of every console sold, but hey lets not make more money and just be fanboys.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

are you a 4 years old ? if you take it that way then microsoft shouldnt have let sony use windows on their sony vaio :|

this is bussines , sony and microsoft are here to suck the living hell of us which its money ....

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

Sony would welcome MS using blu-ray with open arms...this would mean that their format would have won and it would help to flood the market with blu-ray players and line Sony's pockets with money from all the royalties associated with the increase sales and production of blu-ray disks.

Here is a wild thought though...what if MS goes with no onboard media drive what so ever and just puts a large HD in the system and makes everything a DL from Live or on some sort of flash drive that can be installed on the HD? I think this might be a possibility IMO.

so wait...now the a system wins based on the movie format? :? damn things sure have changedDante2710

Yep, it's a shame huh?

lol Ms give money 2 sony anyway when u buy a music video some of the are ownd by sony lol .

Xbox360 is already dead over and over again. who killed it you ask? RROD did. MS are the one who killed the 360 themsevles.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

No it doesn't Sony owns the logo, but, like CD and SACD, it was developed with Philips.
Contributing to the development of the format were/are Panasonic, Pioneer, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp and Samsung.
The current Board of Directors is comprised of:

Apple
Dell
HP
Hitachi
LG
Mitsubishi Electric
Panasonic
Pioneer
Philips
Samsung
Sharp
Sony
Sun Microsystems
TDK
Thomson
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney
Warner Bros.

Sony does not "own" Blu-ray.

[QUOTE="Tech-Man08"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

fraz1776

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

No it doesn't Sony owns the logo, but, like CD and SACD, it was developed with Philips.
Contributing to the development of the format were/are Panasonic, Pioneer, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp and Samsung.
The current Board of Directors is comprised of:

Apple
Dell
HP
Hitachi
LG
Mitsubishi Electric
Panasonic
Pioneer
Philips
Samsung
Sharp
Sony
Sun Microsystems
TDK
Thomson
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disn
Warner Bros.

Sony does not "own" Blu-ray.

well a few things here TC.

1) legally, i dont think sony are allowed to deny MS a licence to use blu-ray unless theres a very good reason (ie better than "we dont like them"). as long as MS pay the licencing fee and their drive meets all necessary blu-ray standards, MS can have blu-ray on their next console, or they can even release an addon for the 360. finally i dont think MS have to pay any fee unless the console actually plays blu-ray movies (if its the same system as the DVD system. ninty didnt have to pay the DVD guys a penny even tough they use a DVD drive in the wii. this is because wii doesent play DVD movies).

2) even if MS ignore current disc technologies, that doesent mean that they wont be able to have a better disc tech next gen. theres nothign stopping them from coming up with their own tech for game storage next gen. as long as patents arent infringed, there untouchable (and even of they do infringe, they can just licence from the patent holder). hell they can go back to carts of they want to (very very unlikely mind). there by no means stuck with DVD 9.

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

why would sony not let M$ use blu ray? It only going to help sony. If anything sony wants M$ to use blu ray.

[QUOTE="lantus"]

1. Sony can always license Blu_ray out for other companies use.
2. Microsoft can make their own format for game or whatever, just like Nintendo does, at least that's what I heard they do.

Tech-Man08

Are you sure? I think I heard that Nintendo also uses DVD9

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

The next MS system can just have Bluray. Sony doesn't "OWN" the technology outright. Even if it did, in that make-believe scenario Sony would STILL welcome it's use by MS because (a) it would further solidify it's technology; and (b) keep MS from denying Sony the use of Windows on their laptops.

One more thing, a format isn't 1080p, that is measure of monitor/tv definition. A DVD9 disc is perfectly capable of containing information that eventually comes across your screen in 1080p, just not AS MUCH information. The edge of Bluray is in capacity, not definition. It's all 1s and 0s dude.

if microsoft has there way we'll bedownloading all of our games online anyway. Maybe they can figure that out by next gen.

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

Sony didnt make Blu-ray, they helped found it but they dont own the rights to it. Also 1080p can be released on a DVD but it would limit the ammount of data you can put on the disc since higher resolutions take up more space.

What do you mean the next "360" will not have a HD while the next "PS3" will?

[QUOTE="Tech-Man08"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

axes03

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

$$$ is everyones friend. they can license it

Yep.

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

its a game console dude, who cares about what format it is as long as theres good games on the console

[QUOTE="Tech-Man08"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

axes03

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

$$$ is everyones friend. they can license it

and the ps4 will make more money for sony if the xbox 720 doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="Tech-Man08"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

fraz1776

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

No it doesn't Sony owns the logo, but, like CD and SACD, it was developed with Philips.
Contributing to the development of the format were/are Panasonic, Pioneer, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp and Samsung.
The current Board of Directors is comprised of:

Apple
Dell
HP
Hitachi
LG
Mitsubishi Electric
Panasonic
Pioneer
Philips
Samsung
Sharp
Sony
Sun Microsystems
TDK
Thomson
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney
Warner Bros.

Sony does not "own" Blu-ray.

Hmm it's so weird... Why isn't Toshiba in that list? Toshiba is a Japanese company! why are they with HD-DVD?

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

they can just use hddvd to put games on, they will just have no HD movies, or MS will just bluray in it thats all an just help sony even more lol

the next xbox will def have hard drive, MS cant be that stupid twice! lol

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

I hope this is the right place to put this, if not Mods please lock.

With the anouncement of Warner going to Blu ray and leaving HD-DVD, Microsoft most defiantly won't intigrate a HD-DVD drive in it's console becuse HD-DVD is pretty much dead. So, next gen Sony will still be using Blu ray disc while the Xbox will still be using DVD9? Or will sony let Microsoft use thier format? Becuase with DVD9 it is NOT truly 1080p high definition. If Sony doesn't let M$ use their, format how will M$ make any games? Surely gamers will not want a played out DVD9 format:?

Oh, and one more thing, the Next PS3 will have a HD drive while the 360 won't. That will lead more people to buy the PS3, Am I right? Let me know what you guys think...

Tech-Man08

They will just use DVD drive,you know why ? Because they will make xbox720 with a standard HDD, and games can install from 1-2 DVD's, then play with a 3rd, like PC

Xbox360 is already dead over and over again. who killed it you ask? RROD did. MS are the one who killed the 360 themsevles.

Gam3smar7

Thats the stupidest thing ever.. of course sony would let them use Bluray, they would make money from it.

Anyhow.. they don't have a problem with letting windows support bluray (might be because any format would die without windows supporting it).

Does MS refuse to let SONY put Vista on its laptops? The rivalry does not really extend pass the consoles.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Tech-Man08

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

I'm pretty sure MicroSoft already make money off the Codecs that BD uses.

DVD9 helps keep the price low and even it will go lower but Sony isn't going to sell a cheap Blu-ray, super computer, and whatever else they clamed it to be.

Sony's mistake was mostly Blu-ray and the cell

[QUOTE="Tech-Man08"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

BambooBanger

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

I'm pretty sure MicroSoft already make money off the Codecs that BD uses.

Is Blu-ray using VC1 ?

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"][QUOTE="Tech-Man08"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I don't see why it can't use BR.

Truffle-Shuffle

Becuase Blu Ray belongs to Sony, and As we all know, Sony and M$ aren't the best of pals.

I'm pretty sure MicroSoft already make money off the Codecs that BD uses.

Is Blu-ray using VC1 ?

Yep, thats the one.

So does this mean that either way MSgains ?