I think the PC won E3

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#401 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

In video game currency TLOU is worth bricks of gold.

Because it's an original IP with a big budget, interesting premise, and it's only on 1 platform.

Everybody else is yelling "teh graphics!"

PS3 is the only one yelling "teh games!"

ZombieKiller7

I wish there were more publishers like Sony, and more developers like Naughty Dog

We all do.

I mean there's a reason people accept weak hardware.

And it's not because of the graphics.

It's because of the experiences that you can't find anywhere else.

I'll take TLOU over all the other hot garbage coming out this year. At least it's not a rerun of something I played last summer.

Theres a reason people buy PCs. You get the best hardware and the best games.

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#402 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

In video game currency TLOU is worth bricks of gold.

Because it's an original IP with a big budget, interesting premise, and it's only on 1 platform.

Everybody else is yelling "teh graphics!"

PS3 is the only one yelling "teh games!"

ZombieKiller7

I wish there were more publishers like Sony, and more developers like Naughty Dog

We all do.

I mean there's a reason people accept weak hardware.

And it's not because of the graphics.

It's because of the experiences that you can't find anywhere else.

I'll take TLOU over all the other hot garbage coming out this year. At least it's not a rerun of something I played last summer.

Weak hardware or not, because I'd like to see Naughty Dog do something on the latest hardware tbh. Though that's not their design philosophy. They excel at looking at the strengths and weaknesses of the PS3, and use it to that effect. They're only working with a 14 button controller, on 6 year old hardware; the gameplay is actually rather simplistic, and the graphics aren't blasting your face with effects. And none of that matters because Naughty Dog wasn't working against the PS3's design. This is unlike, say, Bungie's work on Halo, which tried to do PC styIe bombast (big levels and heaps of sh*t at the same time), but ended up being nerfed by old Xbox specs.
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#403 FrozenLiquid
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It's a rerun of Uncharted,only in a visually less appealing enviroment...

The gameplay mechanics are very similiar,only thing that stands out a little is that girl as a companion,though I'm not sure how well will that part be utilized in the final product...

Rocker6

While it's cut from the same cloth, I think TLoU has the potential to be vastly different from Uncharted. Of course, if the game is heavily scripted, all that good gameplay could potentially go to waste.

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#404 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

As far as I see PC exclusives are low budget schite and multiplats on PC don't get the attention they deserve.

I saw watchdogs was running on PC but they had the abilities on a power wheel lol

You wanna give yourself a headache over multiplats for "teh graphics" go ahead but to me it's not worth the effort when I can just rent them all in rapid succession and finish their campaigns in a couple days.

I mean if you're taking the effort to actually BUY games in the first place and mod them, you're probably missing out on something else you could be playing with that time, not to mention spend a whole lot of money on games that, frankly, deserve to be a weekend rental.

ZombieKiller7

Yeah I mean if I wanted to play the game just to see the ending and not really care about the actual game, that's what I would do. You must play games like 15 hours per day.

The meat on most games is so little now.

Aside from the SP campaign you have collectibles and MP.

All I care about is the campaign really.

You can mod it and go collect hi-rez feathers if you want. lol

Yeah I mean I rather play diablo in 7hours then do every dungeon from a to z or even side quest ...

Also, you seem to have strong issues about mods and hi-rez... if you don't care about it, then why do you constly bring it up?

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#405 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] I wish there were more publishers like Sony, and more developers like Naughty DogFrozenLiquid

We all do.

I mean there's a reason people accept weak hardware.

And it's not because of the graphics.

It's because of the experiences that you can't find anywhere else.

I'll take TLOU over all the other hot garbage coming out this year. At least it's not a rerun of something I played last summer.

Weak hardware or not, because I'd like to see Naughty Dog do something on the latest hardware tbh. Though that's not their design philosophy. They excel at looking at the strengths and weaknesses of the PS3, and use it to that effect. They're only working with a 14 button controller, on 6 year old hardware; the gameplay is actually rather simplistic, and the graphics aren't blasting your face with effects. And none of that matters because Naughty Dog wasn't working against the PS3's design. This is unlike, say, Bungie's work on Halo, which tried to do PC styIe bombast (big levels and heaps of sh*t at the same time), but ended up being nerfed by old Xbox specs.

True,even though I consider their games overrated and not too appealing(they're still OK,and worthy of a playthrough),I've still always respected them as a developer,due to their skill and great understanding of hardware capablities...

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#406 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

So anything at E3 that was PC specific?

Or just the usual "our multiplats are superior."

Bebi_vegeta

It's sad that multtplatform games are the best looking games on PC :lol:

Biggest game released this year on PC

diablo3-2_2.jpg

Consoles are holding back PC graphics!! :cry:

Wow, you just detroyed Zombie and laserface argument that console games don't care about graphics, thanks for proving the point.

huh? what argument? yeah, just shut up...

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#407 Bebi_vegeta
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In video game currency TLOU is worth bricks of gold.

Because it's an original IP with a big budget, interesting premise, and it's only on 1 platform.

Everybody else is yelling "teh graphics!"

PS3 is the only one yelling "teh games!"

ZombieKiller7

More like the game... because that's only 1 game...

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#408 FrozenLiquid
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True,even though I consider their games overrated and not too appealing(they're still OK,and worthy of a playthrough),I've still always respected them as a developer,due to their skill and great understanding of hardware capablities...

Rocker6
Yeah, ND's games are very simplistic and generally piss easy. In that regard, they can be overrated. Personally, I like a bit of sophistication in my games. Last weekend, I screwed up my sleeping pattern coz I was playing Medieval 2: Total War for six hours straight lol.
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#409 ForzaGearsFace
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JOHAN SANTANA WON E3

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#410 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

It's sad that multtplatform games are the best looking games on PC :lol:

Biggest game released this year on PC

diablo3-2_2.jpg

Consoles are holding back PC graphics!! :cry:

lazerface216

Wow, you just detroyed Zombie and laserface argument that console games don't care about graphics, thanks for proving the point.

huh? what argument? yeah, just shut up...

You know the one where you said ART DIRECTION OVER GRAPHIX... why would I shut up?

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29187892/i-think-the-pc-won-e3-?page=26

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#411 flashn00b
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So long as Watch_Dogs doesn't use the Ubisoft Always-On DRM, then i'd agree.

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#412 XanderZane
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Yeah Iw as laughing my @ss off as demo after demo after demo was being showcased on a PC.

Probably because a game chuigging at 25-30 FPS, low graphics settings and at 720p would look like @ss on those humogous TV's they had hooked up. So instead the ran the dmoe's either of the PC verison of the game, or on PC developer workstations.

And of course the casuals will swear up and down that that's how the games will actually look like on their 8 year old consoles.

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Casuals?!? Who are they? The sheep? lol!! The games will run and look that good on a MAC too. lol!! How come PC gamers don't compare their games to the MAC versions? The MAC has up to date technology, just like the PC. That's what you should be comparing those demo to, they come back and tell me they look better. Who is stupid enough to compare it to a 5+ year old game console anyway? There are hardcore gamers on many platforms. Being hardcore or casual had nothing to do with how a game looks or plays.
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#413 slimjimbadboy
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Watching the 2nd broadcast of Planetside2 and I cannot wait for this release.

However, I do find it a little funny that a F2P game for PC might be Sonys most profitable game this gen.

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#414 lundy86_4
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Casuals?!? Who are they? The sheep? lol!! The games will run and look that good on a MAC too. lol!! How come PC gamers don't compare their games to the MAC versions? The MAC has up to date technology, just like the PC. That's what you should be comparing those demo to, they come back and tell me they look better. Who is stupid enough to compare it to a 5+ year old game console anyway? There are hardcore gamers on many platforms. Being hardcore or casual had nothing to do with how a game looks or plays. XanderZane

MACs don't use up-to-date GPUs. Furthermore, the demos are showcased for consoles with a PC. What would be the point in comparing with a MAC, when the game won't release on one?

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#415 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Watch Dogs is a next gen console game that'll get a port to PC. Hermits actually believe Ubisoft are creating a high end PC version of the game? :lol:

Peredith

Dude what happened to you? :? You used to be pretty cool. You actually used to be in favour of PC a lot as far as I remember always posting PC shots of TW2 against the 360 ones.

Also Watch Dogs is coming next year for PC and PS360 :? That's why I think you're trolling because everyone knows this by now

201665_o.gif

:oops:

Thank God, I thought you went crazy lol

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#416 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Watch Dogs is a next gen console game that'll get a port to PC. Hermits actually believe Ubisoft are creating a high end PC version of the game? :lol:

ZombieKiller7

Dude what happened to you? :? You used to be pretty cool. You actually used to be in favour of PC a lot as far as I remember always posting PC shots of TW2 against the 360 ones.

Also Watch Dogs is coming next year for PC and PS360 :? That's why I think you're trolling because everyone knows this by now

lol friendship requires the correct platform

Can't be slumming with consolites eh mr goldenschit

That's not it at all, I just thought it was strange he did a complete 180 on the whole thing.

Lot's of my friends are consolites actually and I still play on their consoles from time to time

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#417 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

The irony.

Myounage

the irony of what? my opinion. yeah, i have it, and he has the right to disregard it as much as i have a right to disregard his. get over it.

It's different. My opinion is grounded in facts. Controllers are not as good as mice for controlling FPS. This is why Microsoft and later Sony abandoned the ideas of cross-platform multiplayer with PCs. Not a single play test from either of them had the console players even come close to winning.

lol no facts. you said that console FPS is trash, that's exactly what i said it is, opinion.

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#418 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Most of the best games showed at E3 where showed running on a high end pc, nice try though

Myounage

most? you got proof of that?

Beyond was probably showed on PC. They did it with Heavy Rain when that got shown at its E3. Watch_Dogs Planetside 2 Star Wars 1313

beyond? ok, whatever you say.

sooooo...basically three games. wow.

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#419 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

it still have k/m and large fov, and of course I enjoy crysis 10 times more when I played with 60fps. (and to answer your question back in 2007 crysis wasn't 100% proper fps, but still better than halo that is missing ALL the elements that I mention earlier)

MK-Professor

So if you were able to enjoy a non-"proper" FPS, then why is it unreasonable that others would as well, especially if they have their own list of what factors are most important?

you miss the point "30fps, k/m, large fov, better graphics" > "30fps, controller, small fov, crappy graphics"

Also I said, that I enjoy this game 10 times more when I played with 60fps, if I had to play it with "30fps, controller, small fov" than I wouldn't be able to enjoy it at all.

Are frame rate, input device, field of view, and graphics the only metrics by which a game experience is judged?
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#420 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Wow, you just detroyed Zombie and laserface argument that console games don't care about graphics, thanks for proving the point.

Bebi_vegeta

huh? what argument? yeah, just shut up...

You know the one where you said ART DIRECTION OVER GRAPHIX... why would I shut up?

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29187892/i-think-the-pc-won-e3-?page=26

that's ME, not everyone will or has to agree. what i actually said was not EVERY gamer cares about graphics or resolution, which is true.

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#421 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]:P

Dude what happened to you? :? You used to be pretty cool. You actually used to be in favour of PC a lot as far as I remember always posting PC shots of TW2 against the 360 ones.

Also Watch Dogs is coming next year for PC and PS360 :? That's why I think you're trolling because everyone knows this by now

seanmcloughlin

lol friendship requires the correct platform

Can't be slumming with consolites eh mr goldenschit

That's not it at all, I just thought it was strange he did a complete 180 on the whole thing.

Lot's of my friends are consolites actually and I still play on their consoles from time to time

lol why even stoop to our level.:P j/k

:lol: "consolites"

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#422 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

lol friendship requires the correct platform

Can't be slumming with consolites eh mr goldenschit

lazerface216

That's not it at all, I just thought it was strange he did a complete 180 on the whole thing.

Lot's of my friends are consolites actually and I still play on their consoles from time to time

lol why even stoop to our level.:P j/k

:lol: "consolites"

Yeah I have to get out of the habit of calling them that :P

I still call PC gamers hermits anyway lol

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#423 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

That's not it at all, I just thought it was strange he did a complete 180 on the whole thing.

Lot's of my friends are consolites actually and I still play on their consoles from time to time

seanmcloughlin

lol why even stoop to our level.:P j/k

:lol: "consolites"

Yeah I have to get out of the habit of calling them that :P

I still call PC gamers hermits anyway lol

well at least you're balanced...

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#424 GameFan1983
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PC will always win till the release of next gen console, the only thing this platfrom missing is PS3 exclusives, but only 20% of them are worthy enough to port(I play them all on PS3)

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#425 AdrianWerner
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Those were next gen console games, not PC games. :? They'll be next gen console launch games and PC will get a port.

Peredith

Not true, at least not with Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs, those were both pc games.

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#426 AdrianWerner
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PS3 is pushing the graphical boundries more than PC these days :?

Peredith

PS3 hasn't pushed any boundaries in three years, unlike PC, which gets multiple such games each year :]

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#427 AdrianWerner
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Watch Dogs is a next gen console game that'll get a port to PC. Hermits actually believe Ubisoft are creating a high end PC version of the game? :lol:

Peredith

You can't be this stupid. Watch Dogs is a current-gen game, it's just PC version that will look next-gen

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#428 mitu123
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^Um, dude, he's trolling.D=

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#429 AdrianWerner
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^Um, dude, he's trolling.D=

mitu123

I don't take trolling into account. ever. So for me he really means everything he writes..so essentially I believe he really is that dumb

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#430 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"] Casuals?!? Who are they? The sheep? lol!! The games will run and look that good on a MAC too. lol!! How come PC gamers don't compare their games to the MAC versions? The MAC has up to date technology, just like the PC. That's what you should be comparing those demo to, they come back and tell me they look better. Who is stupid enough to compare it to a 5+ year old game console anyway? There are hardcore gamers on many platforms. Being hardcore or casual had nothing to do with how a game looks or plays. lundy86_4

MACs don't use up-to-date GPUs. Furthermore, the demos are showcased for consoles with a PC. What would be the point in comparing with a MAC, when the game won't release on one?

That depends if you are referring to the OS or the hardware. A MAC OS can be loaded onto any machine and is the relevant portion of the discussion. (just like you can bootcamp windows PC onto a MAC hardware) The reason games cannot run on MACs by and large is not hardware (If you want to refer to the OS), but merely the lack of companies optimizing for the rendering devices and APIs the operating system uses.
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#431 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]pc won nothing, the last of us, beyond, GOW ascension, halo 4, etc. are all console games...lazerface216

Fixed up, and you're missing other brilliant console titles which don't really get the limelight that could make a stronger case. What's prominent on the PC is on the show floor and in developer booths, and not during conferences where companies push software announcements to sell hardware units. It has been like that for over a decade.

please, by all means put them out there honey, i'm just going off the top of my head, i can't follow every single second of e3 like you..

btw ALL the games i listed are on console, and were presented that way.

Aye, and you would be surprised how they're demo'd on PCs, bar the odd exclusive running on a devkit.
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#432 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="XanderZane"] Casuals?!? Who are they? The sheep? lol!! The games will run and look that good on a MAC too. lol!! How come PC gamers don't compare their games to the MAC versions? The MAC has up to date technology, just like the PC. That's what you should be comparing those demo to, they come back and tell me they look better. Who is stupid enough to compare it to a 5+ year old game console anyway? There are hardcore gamers on many platforms. Being hardcore or casual had nothing to do with how a game looks or plays. Vandalvideo

MACs don't use up-to-date GPUs. Furthermore, the demos are showcased for consoles with a PC. What would be the point in comparing with a MAC, when the game won't release on one?

That depends if you are referring to the OS or the hardware. A MAC OS can be loaded onto any machine and is the relevant portion of the discussion. (just like you can bootcamp windows PC onto a MAC hardware) The reason games cannot run on MACs by and large is not hardware (If you want to refer to the OS), but merely the lack of companies optimizing for the rendering devices and APIs the operating system uses.

I'm aware of the differences. I was stating that MACs (as purchased from Apple) generally do not have the newest GPU's (in fact, I believe they currently only go up to the 5870).

Few games released get a MAC release, and devs typically focus on Windows-based PCs.

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#433 RyuRanVII
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E3's Dirty Little Secret :lol:

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#434 slimjimbadboy
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http://www.twitch.tv/totalbiscuit

For fans of multiplayer FPSs, this has to look just amazing for an alpha stage game.

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#435 Arach666
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E3's Dirty Little Secret :lol:

RyuRanVII
Now that´s a pretty good and very telling article,something that quite a few have been saying in this very thread and others laugh and say otherwise.
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#436 JohnF111
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The PC wins for Planetside 2. This is fact.

Wasdie
And Carrier Command!!!
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#437 wis3boi
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Why do people in this thread take all the trolls seriously? :lol:

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#438 mitu123
Member since 2006 • 155290 Posts

Why do people in this thread take all the trolls seriously? :lol:

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Because the internet is serious business.>.>
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#439 Jankarcop
Member since 2011 • 11058 Posts

Ofcourse PC won.

Fact1: Most games shown were multiplats

Fact2: Most multiplats shown were running on PC, or have a 90% chance to be best on PC.

These 2 facts alone practically confirm PC winning E3, but then we have more tidbits like


Fact3: PC had the least non-gaming cringe worthy garbage.

Fact4: PC had amazing exclusives on top of those 3 facts, further confirming WIN status.