I think Wind Waker is better than OOT

That's right. I'm serious.

So, you're probably wondering why.

Well, the main reasons for this is the art s t y l e is so awesome, and the entire world is better made.

You see, the main problem I had with OOT was that it felt like I was in a very small area, and the sidequests...were underwhelming. And Wind Waker's sidequests are at times better than the main quest. And overall, the world felt more alive. And I loved sailing.

There's only two main problems with WW: The main quest is too easy and too short. And that's it. The story is better written than OOT methinks, and the characters were great in general.

So prepare the flame shields now. I'm ready.

That's right. I'm serious.

So, you're probably wondering why.

Well, the main reasons for this is the art s t y l e is so awesome, and the entire world is better made.

You see, the main problem I had with OOT was that it felt likeI was in a very small area, and the sidequests...were underwhelming. And Wind Waker's sidequests are at times better than the main quest. And overall, the world felt more alive. And I loved sailing.

There's only two main problems with WW: The main quest is too easy and too short. And that's it. The story is better written than OOT methinks, and the characters were great in general.

So prepare the flame shields now. I'm ready.

ChrisSpartan117

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

Irick_cb

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

It's ok, I liked it more than OoT too.

I agree, but honesly I think Majoras Mask was the best. An absolutely phenomenal sequel and it was the darkest themed Zelda :)

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

-PuLse

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

Trmpt

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

The game does NOT hold up well today.

-PuLse

Didnt it get a 9 for its virtual console port a few years back? Sure thats not "today" but still...

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

The game does NOT hold up well today.

-Oath

Didnt it get a 9 for its virtual console port a few years back? Sure thats not "today" but still...

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="-PuLse"]No.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

-PuLse

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

The same could be said about any games people still love, its obvious that there have been improvements, but at the time of its release, OOT was by far the best game.

And the game does hold up extremely well, because the gameplay in the Zelda games has been almost identical after 2 gens. I played the game recently and it felt great, it didnt feel like the controls or gameplay mechanics or anything was holding me back.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

WW was really great until you had to collect the triforce then i stopped caring. too boring and tedious. JPOBS

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

Samurai_Xavier

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

The same could be said about any games people still love, its obvious that there have been improvements, but at the time of its release, OOT was by far the best game.

And the game does hold up extremely well, because the gameplay in the Zelda games has been almost identical after 2 gens. I played the game recently and it felt great, it didnt feel like the controls or gameplay mechanics or anything was holding me back.

OoT had a hilariously bad story, characters, and the early dungeons were very drab and boring. The second half of the game saved it though, the Water Temple is stll the BEST dungeon in a Zelda game, period.

I give it props for the OST also. OoT has the godliest music in a Zelda game ever.

That's fine, Wind Waker is an incredible game, maybe not as incredible as Ocarina of Time was when you played it for the first time, but anyone who has played Wind Waker should be able to see where you're coming from.

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

ActicEdge

You're better off playing FFVI instead...;)

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

-PuLse

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

If you care to explain why not, I could agree on this... and exclude graphics if you will, cuz that seems to be the greatest argument TC has to offer. Not that I disagree, artstyle was a nice change, but I hardly put graphics over other stuff.

The story is still amazing as far as I know. The gameplay has barely changed from what the newer console LoZs have to offer and to top that, it didn't have Tingle on it.

IMO WW was ok, but I sold it as soon as I beat it. Same goes to TP... and yet I still own the GC collection with OoT and Majora's Mask.

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

ActicEdge

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

ActicEdge

Well, you are missing out. It is a true masterpiece as is most of the Zelda series.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

-PuLse

You're better off playing FFVI instead...;)

After tomorrow I might actually have time lol. Just one more exam (which I should be studying for right now lol)

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

-Oath

Well, you are missing out. It is a true masterpiece as is most of the Zelda series.

Its pretty bad actually, I really should have played this a long time ago, I've had the ability but never got around to it. Anyway, I've got a whole summer to finish it soI'll get to it eventually lol

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

JPOBS

Before reading all the responses, I'm going to say that I agree with you. OoT is an amazing game, but I think WW is THAT much better.

I loved exploring the ocean with the King of Red Lions, and finding hidden islands and treasures, taking over pirate ships, and finding pirate coves and submarines. Plus, the giant squid battles were awesome, and I loved how the waves got huge when a big thunderstorm rolled in. I LOVE the sense of exploration in WW. How you feel that there is always something new around every corner, that compels you to keep playing even though it is three in the morning and you have work at 7.

Imo, Wind Waker is the greatest Zelda game, as well as gamecube game, ever.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

JPOBS

I can see that happening but I'll try to go into it with an open mind. Its hard because these forums have basically already given me an opinion of the game that's gonna be floating in the back of my head as I play it :(

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

Trmpt

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

Agree, Many people today still agree it is still the game it was 10 years ago, It is really all about opinion.

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I should be ashamed I still haven't played OoT shouldn''t I?

I can see that happening but I'll try to go into it with an open mind. Its hard because these forums have basically already given me an opinion of the game that's gonna be floating in the back of my head as I play it :(

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

If you care to explain why not, I could agree on this... and exclude graphics if you will, cuz that seems to be the greatest argument TC has to offer. Not that I disagree, artstyle was a nice change, but I hardly put graphics over other stuff.

The story is still amazing as far as I know. The gameplay has barely changed from what the newer console LoZs have to offer and to top that, it didn't have Tingle on it.

IMO WW was ok, but I sold it as soon as I beat it. Same goes to TP... and yet I still own the GC collection with OoT and Majora's Mask.

[QUOTE="Superzone"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]No, if you played it today you owuld not be that impressed. I hadnt played OoT until this year and when people say its the best game ever they are talking entirely from a nostalgic point of view, it really isnt anything special if you pay it for the first time today.JPOBS

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]No, if you played it today you owuld not be that impressed. I hadnt played OoT until this year and when people say its the best game ever they are talking entirely from a nostalgic point of view, it really isnt anything special if you play it for the first time today.

Superzone

I can see that happening but I'll try to go into it with an open mind. Its hard because these forums have basically already given me an opinion of the game that's gonna be floating in the back of my head as I play it :(

I'm gonna try that's for sure. It being an N64 game won't really bug me though, I've been playing tons of PS1 and SNES games lately, my eyes will adjust quickly :P

[QUOTE="Superzone"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]No, if you played it today you owuld not be that impressed. I hadnt played OoT until this year and when people say its the best game ever they are talking entirely from a nostalgic point of view, it really isnt anything special if you pay it for the first time today.JPOBS

The game wasn't trying to be big on todays standards, it was trying to score big on the N64 standards, and guess what? It succeded, big time. If you fail to see what's great about it then maybe you should give a better look at the game, a lot of what goes into this games goes into many great games that are in production today.

That's exactly what you have to do, go in with an open mind. Remember, it's an N64 game that came out ten years ago. Ignoring the presentation (which is actually still pretty good), the gameplay and control is still top notch. As I stated in an earlier post, I didn't play the game myself until 2004. I found it breathtaking when I first played it and I still do.Superzone

This.

I really doubt people on this forum will say Crysis is garbage when your kids come asking you about it in the future.

Before reading all the responses, I'm going to say that I agree with you. OoT is an amazing game, but I think WW is THAT much better.

I loved exploring the ocean with the King of Red Lions, and finding hidden islands and treasures, taking over pirate ships, and finding pirate coves and submarines. Plus, the giant squid battles were awesome, and I loved how the waves got huge when a big thunderstorm rolled in. I LOVE the sense of exploration in WW. How you feel that there is always something new around every corner, that compels you to keep playing even though it is three in the morning and you have work at 7.

Imo, Wind Waker is the greatest Zelda game, as well as gamecube game, ever.

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

That's right. I'm serious.

So, you're probably wondering why.

Well, the main reasons for this is the art s t y l e is so awesome, and the entire world is better made.

You see, the main problem I had with OOT was that it felt likeI was in a very small area, and the sidequests...were underwhelming. And Wind Waker's sidequests are at times better than the main quest. And overall, the world felt more alive. And I loved sailing.

There's only two main problems with WW: The main quest is too easy and too short. And that's it. The story is better written than OOT methinks, and the characters were great in general.

So prepare the flame shields now. I'm ready.

Irick_cb

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

But it is better than Orcarina of Time. It's better than Link to the Past too.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

To the guy who said I cared too much about graphics(God damn that HTML error)

I adressed that later on, just go a few posts after that.

WW does a few things better than OoT, and OoT does things better than WW. I'd say theyre equal, even though i prefer OoT

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

That's right. I'm serious.

So, you're probably wondering why.

Well, the main reasons for this is the art s t y l e is so awesome, and the entire world is better made.

You see, the main problem I had with OOT was that it felt likeI was in a very small area, and the sidequests...were underwhelming. And Wind Waker's sidequests are at times better than the main quest. And overall, the world felt more alive. And I loved sailing.

There's only two main problems with WW: The main quest is too easy and too short. And that's it. The story is better written than OOT methinks, and the characters were great in general.

So prepare the flame shields now. I'm ready.

Lionheart08

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

But it is better than Orcarina of Time. It's better than Link to the Past too.

I love a link to the past. It had some really enjoyable dungeon design. (except the dark world forest dungeon, screw that crap)

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

That's right. I'm serious.

So, you're probably wondering why.

Well, the main reasons for this is the art s t y l e is so awesome, and the entire world is better made.

You see, the main problem I had with OOT was that it felt likeI was in a very small area, and the sidequests...were underwhelming. And Wind Waker's sidequests are at times better than the main quest. And overall, the world felt more alive. And I loved sailing.

There's only two main problems with WW: The main quest is too easy and too short. And that's it. The story is better written than OOT methinks, and the characters were great in general.

So prepare the flame shields now. I'm ready.

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

But it is better than Orcarina of Time. It's better than Link to the Past too.

Ok, that's when I draw the line. LTTP was the best Zelda game out there.ChrisSpartan117

Well, Wind Waker is my out right favorite in the series.

I only included LTTP to take a shot at the "blasphemy" line. :P