I think Wind Waker is better than OOT

The size of the game, the sidequests, the way you got into the dungeons was extremly repeative, and the story isn't that great...ChrisSpartan117

Story is much better than WWs and TPs. Or do you think Nintendo would cling on the "Hero of Time" thing just because??Besides Chrono Trigger, OoT is one of the few games I can remember not ****ing up the story when time travel is involved.

Repetitive?? Why do you think people hates WW the most?? Sailing wasn't exactly fun and you had to do this really often... sail here, sail there. Gets boring fast IMO.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

ChrisSpartan117

But it is better than Orcarina of Time. It's better than Link to the Past too.

I haven't played enough Zelda to claim it as the best I thought it was a damn good game, that's for sure. Had some really memorable dungeon design. Turtle Rock anyone.

I agree, but honesly I think Majoras Mask was the best. An absolutely phenomenal sequel and it was the darkest themed Zelda :)

-Oath

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

To the guy who said I cared too much about graphics(God damn that HTML error)

I adressed that later on, just go a few posts after that.

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]The size of the game, the sidequests, the way you got into the dungeons was extremly repeative, and the story isn't that great...GreenGoblin2099

Story is much better than WWs and TPs. Or do you think Nintendo would cling on the "Hero of Time" thing just because??Besides Chrono Trigger, OoT is one of the few games I can remember not ****ing up the story when time travel is involved.

Repetitive?? Why do you think people hates WW the most?? Sailing wasn't exactly fun and you had to do this really often... sail here, sail there. Gets boring fast IMO.

Link to the past was great, I had it for my GBA SP and took it with me everywhere. Playing Zelda while someone else drives you around = WIN.

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

I agree, but honesly I think Majoras Mask was the best. An absolutely phenomenal sequel and it was the darkest themed Zelda :)

zarshack

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

-PuLse

*Catches, scolds*

What's wrong with you man? No, just no! (not really, I never played that one either :P)

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

ArisShadows

Ok, that's when I draw the line. LTTP was the best Zelda game out there.ChrisSpartan117

Normally I would agree but Im keeping Majoras Mask in mind, It was truely a master piece.

If anything Ill say ALTTP and Majoras Mask are THE best Zeldas, every other game (while excellent) distantly follows..

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

I agree, but honesly I think Majoras Mask was the best. An absolutely phenomenal sequel and it was the darkest themed Zelda :)

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

ActicEdge

*Catches, scolds*

What's wrong with you man? No, just no! (not really, I never played that one either :P)

You need to play it. I LOVE OoA. It was so epic and actually had a great story. I liked how the game didn't revolve around Ganon or Zelda. Link's character design was by far the best too.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

-PuLse

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

You're grossly understating OoT's design and gameplay.

It still holds up well today and i am hard pressed to find many games that match it.

A rare exception being Okami for the PS2.

I completely disagree with your opinion.

[QUOTE="zarshack"] This, Majoras mask is the best imo!

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]The size of the game, the sidequests, the way you got into the dungeons was extremly repeative, and the story isn't that great...GreenGoblin2099

Story is much better than WWs and TPs. Or do you think Nintendo would cling on the "Hero of Time" thing just because??Besides Chrono Trigger, OoT is one of the few games I can remember not ****ing up the story when time travel is involved.

Repetitive?? Why do you think people hates WW the most?? Sailing wasn't exactly fun and you had to do this really often... sail here, sail there. Gets boring fast IMO.

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

I agree, but honesly I think Majoras Mask was the best. An absolutely phenomenal sequel and it was the darkest themed Zelda :)

789shadow

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

-PuLse

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"] This, Majoras mask is the best imo!

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"][QUOTE="-PuLse"]No.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

Superzone

He probably meant Soul Edge.

And the fact that the 3 days went by in like 3 hours, yeah, that means I can't explore the world for very long because of it.ChrisSpartan117

MM is great.

If you want more stuff to do in a game, you can't diss MM, really.

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

Cherokee_Jack

Yeah, I know, but it still was a short time in a Zelda game.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Superzone"] I disagree. I didn't play the game for the first time until 2004. I immediately saw what made it so great. Ignoring graphics obviously, the game is still a masterpiece by today's standards.WiiMan21

The game wasn't trying to be big on todays standards, it was trying to score big on the N64 standards, and guess what? It succeded, big time. If you fail to see what's great about it then maybe you should give a better look at the game, a lot of what goes into this games goes into many great games that are in production today.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"] This, Majoras mask is the best imo!

zarshack

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

It was just that awful.

[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]if i had played it in 98, i owuld have thought "wow this is epic" But playing it in the last year, i honestly just thought it was an average game. dont get me wrong, its not horrible or anything, but i wasnt wowed in any way. for starters, the targeting system is balls, im sorry but i for the life of me targeting a specific enemy when there are multiple on the screen is a pain. also, i couldnt help but think that while the game was attempting to be epic in scale, there was like nothing in the game, it was pretty empty with not a whole lot to do and generally when a game tries to be big today it tries to fill it with things to do but obviously OoT is pretty old but still when i was playing it i wasnt really impressed by anything in particular. Granted, i was doing a speed run and didnt play that far into it because i got bored and was mostly messing around meh whateve,r JPOBS

The game wasn't trying to be big on todays standards, it was trying to score big on the N64 standards, and guess what? It succeded, big time. If you fail to see what's great about it then maybe you should give a better look at the game, a lot of what goes into this games goes into many great games that are in production today.

Answer: still great.

The best Zelda game is The Oracle of Ages.

*Runs*

-PuLse

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I liked Wind Waker

But saying it is better then OoT is blasphemy.

ChrisSpartan117

But it is better than Orcarina of Time. It's better than Link to the Past too.

Edit: this is the first Zelda game ever made incase no one knew.

Answer: still great.

789shadow

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Answer: still great.

JPOBS

You want to bet?

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Are you kidding? That game had one of the worst save systems ever created.

789shadow

It was just that awful.

for the most part yes. The controls and story are way better than OOT's....although OOT has better dungeons.

I'd go as far as saying that even TP is technically superior to OOT by todays standards.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Answer: still great.

Irick_cb

You want to bet?

I've borrowed and played/ALMOST beat OOT for the first time just in the last couple weeks, and it DOES NOT hold up well by today's standards. It's not a bad game by any means but nothing really special by current standards. I'm having more fun playing Majora's Mask actually.

That's nothing! I liked TP better than WW! (Though WW is an amazing game.)

I love Zelda, and to be honest, I think OoT was way overrated.

*Heads for the Hills*

I loved Wind Waker's graphics/style.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Answer: still great.

JPOBS

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]yes obviously a save system is enough to eclipse everything else wonderful about the game :roll:

Cherokee_Jack

It was just that awful.

Even if you understood it, it still sucked. The only true way to save meant practically deleting hours of progress. And there was no reason those Owl Statues couldn't have been permanent saves. You act like innovation in a game excuses it from having to get the basics right.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Answer: still great.

JPOBS

A person playing it for the first time cannot be looking at it in the proper context.

I understand your opinion, I always have trouble picking the best 3-D Zelda game.

I thought Wind Waker Was better than Ocarina of Time as well.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Answer: still great.

789shadow

A person playing it for the first time cannot be looking at it in the proper context.

You're not the only one TC I also found Wind Waker to be the best Zelda title. WW> aLttP>OoT>TP> Majora's Mask> Zelda: Phantom Hourglass>Zelda 1>>>>>>>>Zelda 2

The sailing part was kind of drawn out though. However, I do believe Wind Waker is better than Ocarina but Twilight beats them both. I played Ocarina for the first time last year, and I can see how amazing it would have been if I played it ten years ago. But playing it in 2008? Wind Waker massacres it.

Not counting the CDI series (of course), I think WW is by far the worst Zelda ever. It's short, easy, and I HATE the art style. I don't know why it's so hyped up on this site, when I hear only negative comments about it i general.

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]No.

All the 3D Zeldas after OoT surpassed it. The reason people still place OoT on this pedestal is because of one thing...

Nostalgia

The game does NOT hold up well today.

-PuLse

The same could be said about any games people still love, its obvious that there have been improvements, but at the time of its release, OOT was by far the best game.

And the game does hold up extremely well, because the gameplay in the Zelda games has been almost identical after 2 gens. I played the game recently and it felt great, it didnt feel like the controls or gameplay mechanics or anything was holding me back.

OoT had a hilariously bad story, characters, and the early dungeons were very drab and boring. The second half of the game saved it though, the Water Temple is stll the BEST dungeon in a Zelda game, period.

I give it props for the OST also. OoT has the godliest music in a Zelda game ever.

Ewww, you have bad taste in Zelda dungeons.

That's right. I'm serious.

So, you're probably wondering why.

Well, the main reasons for this is the art s t y l e is so awesome, and the entire world is better made.

You see, the main problem I had with OOT was that it felt like I was in a very small area, and the sidequests...were underwhelming. And Wind Waker's sidequests are at times better than the main quest. And overall, the world felt more alive. And I loved sailing.

There's only two main problems with WW: The main quest is too easy and too short. And that's it. The story is better written than OOT methinks, and the characters were great in general.

So prepare the flame shields now. I'm ready.

ChrisSpartan117

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

The same could be said about any games people still love, its obvious that there have been improvements, but at the time of its release, OOT was by far the best game.

And the game does hold up extremely well, because the gameplay in the Zelda games has been almost identical after 2 gens. I played the game recently and it felt great, it didnt feel like the controls or gameplay mechanics or anything was holding me back.

OoT had a hilariously bad story, characters, and the early dungeons were very drab and boring. The second half of the game saved it though, the Water Temple is stll the BEST dungeon in a Zelda game, period.

I give it props for the OST also. OoT has the godliest music in a Zelda game ever.

Ewww, you have bad taste in Zelda dungeons.