I thought the Europe "Delay" Was Suppose to Kill Sony?!?!!?

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#1 truesKill87
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Really What happened?  Ive been let down by 360 fanboys claiming with blood that Sony would fail because of the Delay.  Thats being proven far from true just like the claims Blu-Ray will kill Sony.  When Blu-Ray is killing HD-DVD 3-1.  Whats Goin On?!?!?

Well known online retailer 'Play' has joined the likes of Amazon and Woolworths by declaring there is an exceptionally high demand for the PS3 at their store. Play is taking six times more pre-orders than it received for PlayStation 3 than Xbox 360 - and 15 times more than the Nintendo Wii. Even with the only option being a £525 bundle, seems that UK gamers are more than prepared to pay for Sony's next generation system.

That's according to head of games Gian Luzio, who told GamesIndustry.biz that PS3 is "the most pre-ordered console yet" for Play. The retailer is offering a GBP 524.99 bundle which includes first-party titles MotorStorm, Resistance: Fall of Man and Genji.

Play also ran pre-order schemes for the Wii and Xbox 360, but some customers were left disappointed when they failed to receive their consoles on day one.

"We underestimated the demand and we were very disappointed that we could not fulfil all pre-orders due to stock shortages," admitted Luzio.

However, Play has pledged to deliver all pre-ordered PS3 units on launch day, with Luzio stating, "We have taken the necessary steps to ensure that customers will only be able to pre-order the system up until Play's allocation has been reached.

It's not just Play which is seeing healthy pre-orders for PS3, according to Sony. A spokesperson told GI.biz, "With an unprecedented day one shipment of 1 million machines into Europe and a software catalogue of over 30 titles available at launch, retailer feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22810



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#2 strudel420
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You're quite the fanboy aren't ya?
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#3 funnymario
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Anyone that counted out Sony less than half a year into the race was a fool...
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Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on?
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Just wait a few days until the European gamers realise that theres barely any good games on the console
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Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on? truesKill87
Europeans understand that sometimes cheaper isn't always better?
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Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on? truesKill87
Sony is lying to ppl. Its pretty simple
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Just wait a few days until the European gamers realise that theres barely any good games on the consoleLed_poison
30 Games at launch and 20+ others already available. Europeans have too many too choose from if you take off those goggles.
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#9 Thug_Pikachu
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Sony surely needs it, They're getting their asses handed to them in japan royally
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Just wait a few days until the European gamers realise that theres barely any good games on the consoleLed_poison
North American Launch =/= European Launch By the time the PS3 is released in Europe several good games will be available to accompany their purchase.
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#11 truesKill87
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Sony surely needs it, They're getting their asses handed to them in japan royally Thug_Pikachu
Japan hasnt been sorted out yet, try again later this year when more PS3 titles are out like DMC 4 and MGS 4.
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Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on? truesKill87
It's called quick-turnaround for a profit.
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[QUOTE="truesKill87"]Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on? Newsboy
It's called quick-turnaround for a profit.

How much room is there for profit in a $850 console you have to wait a few hours in line for and that there is 1 Million units being shipped. Saying anyone will sell a $850 PS3 on Ebay in Europe is grabbin for straws. SONY is meeting high shipping goals so its suicide to wait in line only to sell for same price you bought it because of decent supply.
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#14 MasterChumly
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Food for thought......You can actually let MORE people preorder if your promised more systems hence the promised 1 million......The Wii and the Xbox360 both sold out on launch so its probably not surprising if the PS3 will to but what will be interesting is how it sells along with how the wii and 360 AFTER it launches and sells out of its supposed million opening shipment.  So itll take 2 months from now at least to see how the market is over there and who people seem to be leaning towards. 
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Weren't there more pre-orders for the ps3 in the US as well and look at where we are 3 months after launch. PLus you don't know whether people are making these pre-orders to actually play the console or sell it on ebay.
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I don't see how ps3 gamers have anything to say at this point.  If owning the system is enough satisfaction for you, than great, but I think we can all agree that the current game line up for the supposed "leader of the industry" is embarassing, especially following all the pre-launch hype.  I would suggest cows just keep quiet until they at least get a AAA game like the two lower priced competitors.  The system does you no good if you don't have anything good to play on it.

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I don't see how ps3 gamers have anything to say at this point. If owning the system is enough satisfaction for you, than great, but I think we can all agree that the current game line up for the supposed "leader of the industry" is embarassing, especially following all the pre-launch hype. I would suggest cows just keep quiet until they at least get a AAA game like the two lower priced competitors. The system does you no good if you don't have anything good to play on it.

bezaire2005

Sony already has its AAA and already has 2 major titles coming out in the next 2 weeks and a ton next month.
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sony gave them time to save there money, its a good thing :P.
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Weren't there more pre-orders for the ps3 in the US as well and look at where we are 3 months after launch. PLus you don't know whether people are making these pre-orders to actually play the console or sell it on ebay. chicagog19
Ya PS3 world numbers are higher than 360's 2 months after it's launch. Looks like it is doing fine. Sony is doing a great job currently meeting demand. This upcoming Europe launch will be big, 1 million consoles!!
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#20 truesKill87
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sony gave them time to save there money, its a good thing :P.Haseokicksass
Yah in the meantime PS2 still kicking ass taking names later. Good move overall by Sony to delay.
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[QUOTE="chicagog19"]Weren't there more pre-orders for the ps3 in the US as well and look at where we are 3 months after launch. PLus you don't know whether people are making these pre-orders to actually play the console or sell it on ebay. Thrice_III
Ya PS3 world numbers are higher than 360's 2 months after it's launch. Looks like it is doing fine. Sony is doing a great job currently meeting demand. This upcoming Europe launch will be big, 1 million consoles!!

If Sony was doing a good job, why did they have to shaft Europe, the biggest video game market?
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I don't see how ps3 gamers have anything to say at this point. If owning the system is enough satisfaction for you, than great, but I think we can all agree that the current game line up for the supposed "leader of the industry" is embarassing, especially following all the pre-launch hype. I would suggest cows just keep quiet until they at least get a AAA game like the two lower priced competitors. The system does you no good if you don't have anything good to play on it.

bezaire2005


well playin the games on the 360 is no good if you have the three red lights of death .there is 30 ps3 game titles thats goin to come out during the launch in europe..including oblivion, fear, virtual fighter 5 motor storm and etc ..since virtual fighter 5 scored aaa i guess i can talk now..lmao..Lemming keep on prayin the ps3 will fail and blue ray will kill sony..and all this other crap..when all the great games come out for the ps3 you guys cant talk smack no more..oh never mind you will continue it anyways..lmao..because your arrogant and fail to see any great games on the ps3..but then lemming been beggin for mgs4 devil may cry 4 and even tekken...i guess we dont have no great games lemmin dont want..:roll:
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#23 truesKill87
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[QUOTE="Thrice_III"][QUOTE="chicagog19"]Weren't there more pre-orders for the ps3 in the US as well and look at where we are 3 months after launch. PLus you don't know whether people are making these pre-orders to actually play the console or sell it on ebay. daqua_99
Ya PS3 world numbers are higher than 360's 2 months after it's launch. Looks like it is doing fine. Sony is doing a great job currently meeting demand. This upcoming Europe launch will be big, 1 million consoles!!

If Sony was doing a good job, why did they have to shaft Europe, the biggest video game market?

obviously shaft is the wrong here since the Europe is pre-ordering like mad men.
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[QUOTE="Thrice_III"][QUOTE="chicagog19"]Weren't there more pre-orders for the ps3 in the US as well and look at where we are 3 months after launch. PLus you don't know whether people are making these pre-orders to actually play the console or sell it on ebay. daqua_99
Ya PS3 world numbers are higher than 360's 2 months after it's launch. Looks like it is doing fine. Sony is doing a great job currently meeting demand. This upcoming Europe launch will be big, 1 million consoles!!

If Sony was doing a good job, why did they have to shaft Europe, the biggest video game market?

How are they shafting Europe? Giving them a better launch doesn't seem like shafting them. Is it a price issue?
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[QUOTE="Thrice_III"][QUOTE="chicagog19"]Weren't there more pre-orders for the ps3 in the US as well and look at where we are 3 months after launch. PLus you don't know whether people are making these pre-orders to actually play the console or sell it on ebay. daqua_99
Ya PS3 world numbers are higher than 360's 2 months after it's launch. Looks like it is doing fine. Sony is doing a great job currently meeting demand. This upcoming Europe launch will be big, 1 million consoles!!

If Sony was doing a good job, why did they have to shaft Europe, the biggest video game market?



dont worry there are  more great games comin out durin their launch..all is forgiven.
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Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on? truesKill87
Dvd is beating Blu:ray probably 10:1

You have to remember, Xbox360 doesnt equal HD-DVD. Microsoft doesn't make those.

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[QUOTE="Haseokicksass"]sony gave them time to save there money, its a good thing :P.truesKill87
Yah in the meantime PS2 still kicking ass taking names later. Good move overall by Sony to delay.

Yes, I'm sure they intentionally botched the launch by over a year from the planned March '06 worldwide launch just so that they could have you pat them on the back. Give me a break, people get excited whenever a new console comes out. I got excited over the Dreamcast (which was a good system) and the Gamecube (which was not) - that doesn't mean either of those ever became a commercial success. The PS3 has some fundamental flaws that can't be patched simply by spreading them around the world. Wait and see. No console has *ever* won by launching at the $600 price point - Sony knew that with the PS2, and frankly I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they know it now. Whether or not they manage to turn the PS3 around is going to come down to getting the price down, and getting games out there - both things they're not doing much of yet.

The two most successful systems on the market now are the PS2 and the DS. There are reasons for that - it comes down to games and price. Sony is completely disconnected from the kind of person that buys a PS2 now. Most parents can't afford to buy their kid a $600 toy, most kids can't afford a $600 toy
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#28 Kizzle28
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Did you really expect Europe not to buy up the PS3's at launch?  Because it was the same for Nintendo and Microsoft.  The ones buying it now are the hardcore Sony fans, but after that, it should taper off like Japan and NA sales have.
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#29 Goku004
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You're quite the fanboy aren't ya?strudel420
Why because he speak the truth, I can remeber all lemmings saying that too. Too bad lemmings analogy is weaker than a kindergarderner's.
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Just wait a few days until the European gamers realise that theres barely any good games on the consoleLed_poison
They already realize 360 don't have any good games.
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#31 munu9
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I really wish sony had more consoles to give, because I seriously doubt the people who waited for the ps3 in the europe and couldn't get one on launch are going to wait any longer
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#32 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

I don't see how ps3 gamers have anything to say at this point. If owning the system is enough satisfaction for you, than great, but I think we can all agree that the current game line up for the supposed "leader of the industry" is embarassing, especially following all the pre-launch hype. I would suggest cows just keep quiet until they at least get a AAA game like the two lower priced competitors. The system does you no good if you don't have anything good to play on it.

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well playin the games on the 360 is no good if you have the three red lights of death .there is 30 ps3 game titles thats goin to come out during the launch in europe..including oblivion, fear, virtual fighter 5 motor storm and etc ..since virtual fighter 5 scored aaa i guess i can talk now..lmao..Lemming keep on prayin the ps3 will fail and blue ray will kill sony..and all this other crap..when all the great games come out for the ps3 you guys cant talk smack no more..oh never mind you will continue it anyways..lmao..because your arrogant and fail to see any great games on the ps3..but then lemming been beggin for mgs4 devil may cry 4 and even tekken...i guess we dont have no great games lemmin dont want..:roll:

"because your arrogant and fail to see any great games on the ps3"

-are you trying to say there are great games on the ps3 right now?  The only good game is Resistance, and it's certainly not great, and not AAA material.  Other than that, it's a bunch of 360 knockoffs, and Genji (how did that score?).   Can you name any PS3 exclusives that are considered "great"?  Let me guess, you are going to point to a bunch of games in the future and say that those will be great....pretty lame.

And I find it funny that two of the games you mentioned on the ps3 (fear and oblivion) i've already boughten, beaten, and traded in for something more new.  I can't believe you are trying to own the lemmings with games that they've already played...that's pretty weak, even for ps3 fanboy who talks to much.  lol...I hope you enjoy the 360's left overs as much as millions of other gamers did about a half a year ago

-If you were smart, you'd read the system wars rules and realize that only Gamespot reviews count towards AAA rankings, therefore your whole "VF5 IS AAA" line is pretty incorrect since the game hasn't been reviewed on GS yet.  But i'm sure you'll make some kind of excuse.  Also keep in mind, VF5 will be on 360, so it's not like the game is ps3 exclusive.

-Your right, I don't want any of the ps3's games, I can do without Genji and Full Auto 2, and a bunch of multiplatform games that SCORED HIGHER ON THE 360 THAN ON THE PS3!  More power, teh cell, "the real next gen"=  my a**

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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Just wait a few days until the European gamers realise that theres barely any good games on the consoleGoku004
They already realize 360 don't have any good games.

5 AAA's.

nice try.

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#34 rdo
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Really What happened?  Ive been let down by 360 fanboys claiming with blood that Sony would fail because of the Delay.  Thats being proven far from true just like the claims Blu-Ray will kill Sony.  When Blu-Ray is killing HD-DVD 3-1.  Whats Goin On?!?!?

Well known online retailer 'Play' has joined the likes of Amazon and Woolworths by declaring there is an exceptionally high demand for the PS3 at their store. Play is taking six times more pre-orders than it received for PlayStation 3 than Xbox 360 - and 15 times more than the Nintendo Wii. Even with the only option being a £525 bundle, seems that UK gamers are more than prepared to pay for Sony's next generation system.

That's according to head of games Gian Luzio, who told GamesIndustry.biz that PS3 is "the most pre-ordered console yet" for Play. The retailer is offering a GBP 524.99 bundle which includes first-party titles MotorStorm, Resistance: Fall of Man and Genji.

Play also ran pre-order schemes for the Wii and Xbox 360, but some customers were left disappointed when they failed to receive their consoles on day one.

"We underestimated the demand and we were very disappointed that we could not fulfil all pre-orders due to stock shortages," admitted Luzio.

However, Play has pledged to deliver all pre-ordered PS3 units on launch day, with Luzio stating, "We have taken the necessary steps to ensure that customers will only be able to pre-order the system up until Play's allocation has been reached.

It's not just Play which is seeing healthy pre-orders for PS3, according to Sony. A spokesperson told GI.biz, "With an unprecedented day one shipment of 1 million machines into Europe and a software catalogue of over 30 titles available at launch, retailer feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22810



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it wasn't the euro delay,  it was the american release and the ebay flopage.  it was suckage squared
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#35 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

I don't see how ps3 gamers have anything to say at this point. If owning the system is enough satisfaction for you, than great, but I think we can all agree that the current game line up for the supposed "leader of the industry" is embarassing, especially following all the pre-launch hype. I would suggest cows just keep quiet until they at least get a AAA game like the two lower priced competitors. The system does you no good if you don't have anything good to play on it.

truesKill87

Sony already has its AAA and already has 2 major titles coming out in the next 2 weeks and a ton next month.

Where is it's AAA?  I'm checking gamespot and I dont' see any.  8.6 is as close as the ps3 gets and let's face it...8.6 is not really all that close.

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#36 X360PS3AMD05
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European launch... of course it's going to sellout :? When people say Sony is doomed, they mean they won't win the continent, that will take years to happen. Plus i think Microsoft is dropping the price on the 360 this year.
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#37 piano_pimp
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maybe it's because people tend to want what they can't have....
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#38 fartgorilla
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Dude the line up for Europe looks good. If they were launching with the same line up they had in November...well, they were impossible to find for a while over here even with the games that were out. The real question is whether it will remain popular after launch or slow down like it has in the States.
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#39 AgentVX
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[QUOTE="truesKill87"]Really What happened?  Ive been let down by 360 fanboys claiming with blood that Sony would fail because of the Delay.  Thats being proven far from true just like the claims Blu-Ray will kill Sony.  When Blu-Ray is killing HD-DVD 3-1.  Whats Goin On?!?!?

.................

It's not just Play which is seeing healthy pre-orders for PS3, according to Sony. A spokesperson told GI.biz, "With an unprecedented day one shipment of 1 million machines into Europe and a software catalogue of over 30 titles available at launch, retailer feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22810

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it wasn't the euro delay,  it was the american release and the ebay flopage.  it was suckage squared

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-If you were smart, you'd read the system wars rules and realize that only Gamespot reviews count towards AAA rankings, therefore your whole "VF5 IS AAA" line is pretty incorrect since the game hasn't been reviewed on GS yet. But i'm sure you'll make some kind of excuse. Also keep in mind, VF5 will be on 360, so it's not like the game is ps3 exclusive.

-Your right, I don't want any of the ps3's games, I can do without Genji and Full Auto 2, and a bunch of multiplatform games that SCORED HIGHER ON THE 360 THAN ON THE PS3! More power, teh cell, "the real next gen"= my a**

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1/ Let's be honest, that's a stupid rule, you can't ignore a great game just based on 1 site, that's statistically totaly irrelevant. 2/ Ok vf5 comes to the 360, It's still a timed exclusive for some monyhs though 3/ Indeed Genji en Full Auto might be total crap, but the 360 also has a 9 to 1 bad games/good games rate 4/ Multiplat ports always get lower scores if they're rushed, no added content and a been there, done that feeling leaves reviewers dissapointed. But that's more a launch problem then a system problem. I think both systems are about even, but with differences in strong points. Also remember gun on the 360, or Tony Hawks American Wasteland?... I guess the ps3 multiplatform launchgames didn't do so bad after all.
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#41 down_with_sheep
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[QUOTE="Newsboy"][QUOTE="truesKill87"]Blu-Ray is currently 3:1 and will probably be 5:1 by end of 2007. Wait... Why are there so many Pre-Orders on a $850 dollar Console in UK? When there are 360's abundantly available for cheaper. What the heck is goin on? What the heck is going on? truesKill87
It's called quick-turnaround for a profit.

How much room is there for profit in a $850 console you have to wait a few hours in line for and that there is 1 Million units being shipped. Saying anyone will sell a $850 PS3 on Ebay in Europe is grabbin for straws. SONY is meeting high shipping goals so its suicide to wait in line only to sell for same price you bought it because of decent supply.

i dont understand this at all. and we dont wait in line, see. we preorder.
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#42 diablo_human
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Aren't they launching with 4 times the amount of consoles then Nintendo?(after being 6 months later then them..) Therefore shouldn't all shops be able to except more pre orders?
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#43 AgentVX
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Cow pulling at straws now!!!  First they though America would engulf the PS3, NOT!!! Then they thought that their own home turf of Japan would engulf the PS3, NOT!!!  Now they are hoping the Europe engulf's the PS3....NOT!!!

Running out of contients and country's, soon they will be saying, "ya, you just wait until the PS3 launches in Iraq, then you'll see them flying off the shelves"

PS3 is by all indications is a FLOPPAGE!!!  Sure, it will survive and get 360 ports, but it has failed to live up or even close to expectations. 

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#44 Lanfeix
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Ladies and Gentalmen, role right up and welcome to "Sony Land"

admitidly it be intresting to see how long they sell out for.

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#45 A2D
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It sucks that we had to wait, but in return we'll get to experience the PS3 with the latest firmware (Background downloading etc.) and with pretty much the best launch line up in history :P
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#46 nivet14
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You're quite the fanboy aren't ya?strudel420
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#47 cakeorrdeath
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Link for an alternative take on the story.

Still available from Play.com even now. Link

*edit:
And Amazon
And Game
And Gamestation
And Argos
And Woolworths


(HMV and Virgin are yet to start their pre orders)
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#48 Zhengi
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One word: ebay.
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#49 Duckyindiana
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Wait untill people in the uk see the price of games £60 that will put them off.
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#50 bexarath
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Link for an alternative take on the story.

Still available from Play.com even now. Link

*edit:
And Amazon
And Game
And Gamestation
And Argos
And Woolworths


(HMV and Virgin are yet to start their pre orders)
cakeorrdeath
Massive ownage. Ouch.