I use video games to hide from my personal problems.

[QUOTE="yahoomail"]To put my idea better, im opposed to christianity because i feel it is one of the larger religions that forces it ideals upon young and convincable minds. It finds poeple, peopel don't find it. And MY concept of god is the only importent one. Every person has a conception of god, even in the same religoin. So...saying i need to get a better understanding of god is rediculous, if i think he doesn't interact with us humans, can anyone tell me im wrong?_en1gma_

Listen to "Comfort Eagle" by Cake.

In this song describes what you should be angry at, not religion itself.

Because I'm too lazy to analyze it, what does it say?

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="yahoomail"]To put my idea better, im opposed to christianity because i feel it is one of the larger religions that forces it ideals upon young and convincable minds. It finds poeple, peopel don't find it. And MY concept of god is the only importent one. Every person has a conception of god, even in the same religoin. So...saying i need to get a better understanding of god is rediculous, if i think he doesn't interact with us humans, can anyone tell me im wrong?FrozenLiquid

Listen to "Comfort Eagle" by Cake.

In this song describes what you should be angry at, not religion itself.

Because I'm too lazy to analyze it, what does it say?

http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=40145

Here ya go.

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Do you get medical insurance through your job? Lots of plans cover mental health issues and you can find counseling, and (despite the negative image they get sometimes) medications really can help. Through counseling or therapy you can find local community service or volunteer groups that will at least get you out of the house, and around other people. It can build character, self-esteem and social skills while medication can help break depression or manic-depressive cycles that may keep you from pursuing social and physical relationships.accameron

I'm not manic depressive or anything. I sometimes even enjoy my life. I just suck at women, and video games help me enjoy stuff.

Key word being sometimes. Of course not everyone enjoys their life all the time, but if you've really been in the same pattern for 10 years and its beginning to get to you, the advice is still the same. Plus all the others talking about things like church groups, or even church-run organisations, even if you aren't very religeous they are still a safe place where there would be little pressure and high moral standards, if thats what your looking for (I always hate the "go to a bar" advice myself since its usually the opposite environment).

Honestly I should be taking a lot of my own advice here, since I have plenty of shyness or social phobia issues myself. ;)

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="yahoomail"]To put my idea better, im opposed to christianity because i feel it is one of the larger religions that forces it ideals upon young and convincable minds. It finds poeple, peopel don't find it. And MY concept of god is the only importent one. Every person has a conception of god, even in the same religoin. So...saying i need to get a better understanding of god is rediculous, if i think he doesn't interact with us humans, can anyone tell me im wrong?FrozenLiquid

Listen to "Comfort Eagle" by Cake.

In this song describes what you should be angry at, not religion itself.

Because I'm too lazy to analyze it, what does it say?

After you're done wasting your time with that song, read Nietzsche's Anti-Christ and prepare to get rick roll'd by some truth.

Bro, that just got me sad :(

....I feel bad for you.

MikeE21286

I know,I mean how can someone just quit like that?

TC maybe you should move to Korea since I hear that Pro gamers are treated like rock stars over there.that would be a win/win situation for you,you get to play games and you also get to be part of that "community" you like so much.

I simply believes one ideals of a abstract nature should be consladated by oneself. Finding meaning to something that is not fact is in and of itself playing god. You take controll away from the very the your creating. You create the idea of god in a persons mind, then you play the role of what you have created by forming the wrold thru these religous ideas. Your word is the word of god is the word of you. It can be in good reason, but its still man telling man how to think about what man cannot comprhend....which is wrong IMO.

yahoomail

See your predisposition leans towards believing all Ideas of God stem from the imagination of the human mind. That's very superficial, and uninformative.

Most of the general ideas of God have stemmed from what is allegedly divine revelation, inspiration etc. Prophets. Jesus. Mohammed.From any religion, anytime. And no, the argument of "Oh I can create a religion and deem it true" doesn't work. Most likely your one would be vastly different from all other major religions in the world. And there are other sources you would not immediately think of: the collective, subconcious way in which humans think. That is one of the most fascinating arguments for the Idea of God. It's quite complex, but it's awesome.

But I'm sorry, I've seen your arguments before, and in fact I've used them in my own Philsophy, Spirituality and Theology classes. And may I just say from personal experience it's just the easy way out. It's the "I don't want to think too much because it doesn't affect me" way, which couldn't be further from the truth. Because I'm willing to bet that those who just live life for the sake of living are going to end up in a mid life crisis.

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Do you get medical insurance through your job? Lots of plans cover mental health issues and you can find counseling, and (despite the negative image they get sometimes) medications really can help. Through counseling or therapy you can find local community service or volunteer groups that will at least get you out of the house, and around other people. It can build character, self-esteem and social skills while medication can help break depression or manic-depressive cycles that may keep you from pursuing social and physical relationships.accameron

I'm not manic depressive or anything. I sometimes even enjoy my life. I just suck at women, and video games help me enjoy stuff.

So denial would be the current stage then...yes?

Really, judging by your topic post, you have some disorder at this point. I don't think you're serious at all, but if we pretended you were, this would be the case. And if you were serious, this talk of "just find something you enjoy" isn't going to do anything. Chances are you get some sort of payoff from this behavior and have developed a psychological addiction to that payoff. You're not going to stop until you figure out what and why this is. If you're fine how you are (you aren't) then don't do anything.

I'm assuming when I say this, but Chances are, you're probably waiting for people to come to you which probably results in you feeling rejected which in turn leads you to seeking comfort through gaming.....You have to throw yourself out there and sell yourself... Show people what you have to offer (besides gaming) and then watch your life getting rich with friends.....building confidence in yourself helps you sell yourself...

Good Luck Bro, I hope things shape up for you.

This thread is getting huge fast. It's like stopping to look at a car accident.

No offense TC. That took a lot of courage.

Get on the Dr. Phil show immediately, or get the new Dr. Phil MMORPG (levity!:P)

Here ya go.

_en1gma_

Oh yeah definetely agree with that. But that's just generalizes religions once again. Not all of them do that.

I don't believe in advertising religion like that. I believe in living the way that you've been taught to live in hope that people will find it attractive. It's not to say I want them to join my certain religion, but at least to start to think about life in the bigger picture.

[QUOTE="yahoomail"]

I simply believes one ideals of a abstract nature should be consladated by oneself. Finding meaning to something that is not fact is in and of itself playing god. You take controll away from the very the your creating. You create the idea of god in a persons mind, then you play the role of what you have created by forming the wrold thru these religous ideas. Your word is the word of god is the word of you. It can be in good reason, but its still man telling man how to think about what man cannot comprhend....which is wrong IMO.

FrozenLiquid

See your predisposition leans towards believing all Ideas of God stem from the imagination of the human mind. That's very superficial, and uninformative.

Most of the general ideas of God have stemmed from what is allegedly divine revelation, inspiration etc. Prophets. Jesus. Mohammed.From any religion, anytime. And no, the argument of "Oh I can create a religion and deem it true" doesn't work. Most likely your one would be vastly different from all other major religions in the world. And there are other sources you would not immediately think of: the collective, subconcious way in which humans think. That is one of the most fascinating arguments for the Idea of God. It's quite complex, but it's awesome.

But I'm sorry, I've seen your arguments before, and in fact I've used them in my own Philsophy, Spirituality and Theology classes. And may I just say from personal experience it's just the easy way out. It's the "I don't want to think too much because it doesn't affect me" way, which couldn't be further from the truth. Because I'm willing to bet that those who just live life for the sake of living are going to end up in a mid life crisis.

Why would a religion based on ideals vastly different from any current religions be invalid? If all major religions are incorrect, that would make this new religion the best one we've got.

[QUOTE="accameron"]

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Do you get medical insurance through your job? Lots of plans cover mental health issues and you can find counseling, and (despite the negative image they get sometimes) medications really can help. Through counseling or therapy you can find local community service or volunteer groups that will at least get you out of the house, and around other people. It can build character, self-esteem and social skills while medication can help break depression or manic-depressive cycles that may keep you from pursuing social and physical relationships.whoisryanmack

I'm not manic depressive or anything. I sometimes even enjoy my life. I just suck at women, and video games help me enjoy stuff.

So denial would be the current stage then...yes?

Really, judging by your topic post, you have some disorder at this point. I don't think you're serious at all, but if we pretended you were, this would be the case. And if you were serious, this talk of "just find something you enjoy" isn't going to do anything. Chances are you get some sort of payoff from this behavior and have developed a psychological addiction to that payoff. You're not going to stop until you figure out what and why this is. If you're fine how you are (you aren't) then don't do anything.

Ummm, I guess so? But I am afraid of rejection, and all girls ever do is reject me, even to the point of speaking to me when i am out. Plus, some girls played some mean jokes to me before, where I thought that I had a chance with them. Am I a nerd who plays video games? Probably. I am just sick of the way I am treated, and i don't need such negativity.

A step by step guide to overcoming your social phobia and avoidant personality disorder.

1. Prozac

2. hooker

whoisryanmack

lol...I'll add one to that...

3. Liposuction

Seriously though this thread makes me sad. Listen I've always been a gamer but I've always had a social life also so I've never had major problems with women.

You should try and work out and diet. If you get in shape women will talk to you no matter how much of a gamer you are.

[QUOTE="yahoomail"]

I simply believes one ideals of a abstract nature should be consladated by oneself. Finding meaning to something that is not fact is in and of itself playing god. You take controll away from the very the your creating. You create the idea of god in a persons mind, then you play the role of what you have created by forming the wrold thru these religous ideas. Your word is the word of god is the word of you. It can be in good reason, but its still man telling man how to think about what man cannot comprhend....which is wrong IMO.

FrozenLiquid

See your predisposition leans towards believing all Ideas of God stem from the imagination of the human mind. That's very superficial, and uninformative.

Most of the general ideas of God have stemmed from what is allegedly divine revelation, inspiration etc. Prophets. Jesus. Mohammed.From any religion, anytime. And no, the argument of "Oh I can create a religion and deem it true" doesn't work. Most likely your one would be vastly different from all other major religions in the world. And there are other sources you would not immediately think of: the collective, subconcious way in which humans think. That is one of the most fascinating arguments for the Idea of God. It's quite complex, but it's awesome.

But I'm sorry, I've seen your arguments before, and in fact I've used them in my own Philsophy, Spirituality and Theology classes. And may I just say from personal experience it's just the easy way out. It's the "I don't want to think too much because it doesn't affect me" way, which couldn't be further from the truth. Because I'm willing to bet that those who just live life for the sake of living are going to end up in a mid life crisis.

So you believe that the ideas of god, while this may infact be true, have been brought up through the revleations made had about said god? Most of the time a revelation that in some form or manner contredects a different, sometimes older religoin? So, get me stright,...the idea of ONE man, Of god, that are based on similar ideals of other men, creats the common concept of god? Thus, as i said, God is only possible in ones mind, and the shared ideals thru man has brought forth religion. THUS, couldn't one say that religon is merly agreing to believe soly in a predetermed imagenation rooting back to a original sorce? Powerful symbolism such as the death of jesus later spawn christianity, but only because it brought forth new idea for the table of spiritual thought. Some people used thier understand of the world around them to build a new reason for god existence and his effect on us all. So mans only "revelation" is that man creates god in mans own image. A image of himsel, except exponentionly better. God is man, made by man, without mans limits. Which is rediculous, if something did create all there is, how could we ever put our minds around it? We are all wrong, and organising to try and understand it is like getting together to see what your best friend sees in his mind when he read the same book you are. It doesn't matter, you can never see it, read the book yourself, have your own ideas. For the record i believe in god, my mother is catholic, my father is jewish.

After you're done wasting your time with that song, read Nietzsche's Anti-Christ and prepare to get rick roll'd by some truth.

whoisryanmack

I've read arguments like that. Not the Anti-Christ book specifically, but that argument is one of the bigger attacks on Christianity.

Let me just say that don't look at one side of Truth. Look at many. Look at all. Delve yourself deeper into the side you dislike the most.

What you've seen there is the truth painted by one man. Much like Christianity has done so over thousands of years. Much like Islam has done, and Judaism, and Hindiusm, and every other school of thought.

I'm a better Catholic today than I've ever been. Why? Because I studied all other major religions and their beliefs, and I've also studied the athiest side of the argument (which is so predominant nowdays it's hard not to).

And, as my teacher who has a PhD in Theology said (mind you, he is Catholic too), he told the class: "Remember how you learnt when you were young that God loves everyone, and God is so Good? You were fooled".

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

A step by step guide to overcoming your social phobia and avoidant personality disorder.

1. Prozac

2. hooker

Firelore29

lol...I'll add one to that...

3. Liposuction

Seriously though this thread makes me sad. Listen I've always been a gamer but I've always had a social life also so I've never had major problems with women.

You should try and work out and diet. If you get in shape women will talk to you no matter how much of a gamer you are.

After writing, I think it would have been funnier if I'd added step 3

3. Rinse & repeat

oh well.

Why would a religion based on ideals vastly different from any current religions be invalid? If all major religions are incorrect, that would make this new religion the best one we've got. whoisryanmack

As I said before, all major religions have similarly striking similarities.I did not ever say they were incorrect.

But if you feel you can make a better religion than all others, then please, do so.

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="accameron"]

[QUOTE="Corvin"]Do you get medical insurance through your job? Lots of plans cover mental health issues and you can find counseling, and (despite the negative image they get sometimes) medications really can help. Through counseling or therapy you can find local community service or volunteer groups that will at least get you out of the house, and around other people. It can build character, self-esteem and social skills while medication can help break depression or manic-depressive cycles that may keep you from pursuing social and physical relationships.accameron

I'm not manic depressive or anything. I sometimes even enjoy my life. I just suck at women, and video games help me enjoy stuff.

So denial would be the current stage then...yes?

Really, judging by your topic post, you have some disorder at this point. I don't think you're serious at all, but if we pretended you were, this would be the case. And if you were serious, this talk of "just find something you enjoy" isn't going to do anything. Chances are you get some sort of payoff from this behavior and have developed a psychological addiction to that payoff. You're not going to stop until you figure out what and why this is. If you're fine how you are (you aren't) then don't do anything.

Ummm, I guess so? But I am afraid of rejection, and all girls ever do is reject me, even to the point of speaking to me when i am out. Plus, some girls played some mean jokes to me before, where I thought that I had a chance with them. Am I a nerd who plays video games? Probably. I am just sick of the way I am treated, and i don't need such negativity.

Listen....you need to start with your self esteeme. To do that you need to start with your outward appearance. You need to get in a weight loss program like Jenny Craig or some other weight loss system. Either that or join a gym. Once you have lost some weight your confidence and self esteme will go thru the roof.

You need to solve your own problems long before you think about meeting women. Once you are in a good place psycologically and physically you will meet someone I guarantee it.