i7 CPU vs PS4 AMD Jaguar?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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@ronvelancia, @tormentos, or @tessellation <== these are the techies to ask here in order to get the accurate picture

but I think:

Graphics : Jaguar > i7

General computation: i7 > Jaguar

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#3 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Mine destroys both of those CPU's.  

I7 3770k.  

Liquid_

it is one of those cpu's..

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

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An i7 should be stronger but that doesn't mean much. An 8 core CPU on a console will be much better than on a PC for gaming. I remember when i was little both PS2 and my PC had 300mhz cpu's, my PS2 killed my PC lol

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lolno

jaguar brute processing performance = old Athlon 64 X2 from 2006. AMD has stated jagaur is 15% faster clock per clock then bobcat..

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#6 Alienware_fan
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The i7 would get obsolete when next gen games take full advantage of all the eight cores in next gen systems. But i7 is faster.

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#7 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

The i7 would get obsolete when next gen games take full advantage of all the eight cores in next gen systems. But i7 is faster.

Alienware_fan

Hyperthreading says hi.

Hyperthreading is not going to cut it my friend.

It takes AMD's flagship 8 core cpu being at 4 ghz to match an i7 3770 at 3.5 ghz with games that actually make use of 8 cores ie like Crysis 3. The PS4 cpu is a weaker based 8 core cpu and being most likely 1.6 ghz makes it weaker then a 3 ghz Phenom 2 X4. Dont ignore the fact that jagaur based architecture is only suppose to be 15% faster clock per clock then AMD's bobcat series which are slower then AMD'a Athlon X2's even at same clockrates.

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#8 CwlHeddwyn
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Hi all, how would one of the latest intel i7 CPU compare against the AMD CPU that is inside the PS4? Isit all just guesswork or do we have a good estimation of the performance of each?
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#9 Fizzman
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Mine destroys both of those CPU's.  

I7 3770k.  

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#10 MonsieurX
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Good vs bad Take your pick
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#11 Shottayouth13-
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Lol. i7 would massacre it.
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#12 MrYaotubo
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Really? The i7 by far.
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Mine destroys both of those CPU's.  

I7 3770k.  

Liquid_
it is one of those cpu's..

yeah i was just going to ignore that lol
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#14 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Mine destroys both of those CPU's.  

I7 3770k.  

Fizzman

it is one of those cpu's..

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

ah, confusing since theres no mention of xbox in this thread
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#15 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"] it is one of those cpu's..Liquid_

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

ah, confusing since theres no mention of xbox in this thread

Eh, they basically have the same CPU's.  

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#16 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

Fizzman

ah, confusing since theres no mention of xbox in this thread

Eh, they basically have the same CPU's.  

never mind. lol
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#17 CwlHeddwyn
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"] it is one of those cpu's..Liquid_

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

ah, confusing since theres no mention of xbox in this thread

Indeed, I was wondering where I'd mentioned the Xbox. Still anyone got benchmarks of the i7 vs AMD ps4 CPU?
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#18 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

CwlHeddwyn

ah, confusing since theres no mention of xbox in this thread

Indeed, I was wondering where I'd mentioned the Xbox. Still anyone got benchmarks of the i7 vs AMD ps4 CPU?

You didn't mention it.  I just included it too since they are the same garbage.  

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inb4 horny hermits.

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[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Mine destroys both of those CPU's.  

I7 3770k.  

Fizzman

it is one of those cpu's..

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

ah gotcha
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I7 is a beast
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#22 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Hyperthreading says hi. 04dcarraher

Hyperthreading is not going to cut it my friend.

It takes AMD's flagship 8 core cpu being at 4 ghz to match an i7 3770 at 3.5 ghz with games that actually make use of 8 cores ie like Crysis 3. The PS4 cpu is a weaker based 8 core cpu and being most likely 1.6 ghz makes it weaker then a 3 ghz Phenom 2 X4. Dont ignore the fact that jagaur based architecture is only suppose to be 15% faster clock per clock then AMD's bobcat series which are slower then AMD'a Athlon X2's even at same clockrates.

I wouldnt call crysis 3 a true octa core game, but still ps4's cpu sucks.

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#23 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

i was referring to the Xbox 720 CPU too.  

CwlHeddwyn
ah, confusing since theres no mention of xbox in this thread

Indeed, I was wondering where I'd mentioned the Xbox. Still anyone got benchmarks of the i7 vs AMD ps4 CPU?

There are none currently as there is no review samples. But, on paper the i7 walks all over the PS4's CPU.
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#24 kipsta77
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But what gamer uses integrated graphics? Almost everyone would buy discrete.

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#25 scoots9
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My i7 is better than the Jaguar and it's the cheapest model of first gen i7.

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#26 MonsieurX
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Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ console
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#27 Fizzman
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Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleMonsieurX

I paid 200 for mine.

Thanks Micro Center.  

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#28 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleFizzman

I paid 200 for mine.

Thanks Micro Center.  

Wish we had those in Canada :(
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#29 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleMonsieurX
I paid about 200 something for mine. Love my i7.
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#30 Liquid_
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Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleMonsieurX
paid 100$ for it, mad?
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#31 CwlHeddwyn
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consolesiLVURcross
I paid about 200 something for mine. Love my i7.

The PS4 won't be out for another 6 months, you can bet i7 prices to drop by then as a new batch of CPUs are on the way from intel.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleCwlHeddwyn
I paid about 200 something for mine. Love my i7.

The PS4 won't be out for another 6 months, you can bet i7 prices to drop by then as a new batch of CPUs are on the way from intel.

Easily.
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleLiquid_
paid 100$ for it, mad?

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#34 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleLiquid_
paid 100$ for it, mad?

not quite
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#35 KillzoneSnake
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An i7 should be stronger but that doesn't mean much. An 8 core CPU on a console will be much better than on a PC for gaming. I remember when i was little both PS2 and my PC had 300mhz cpu's, my PS2 killed my PC lol

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#36 MonsieurX
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An i7 should be stronger but that doesn't mean much. An 8 core CPU on a console will be much better than on a PC for gaming. I remember when i was little both PS2 and my PC had 300mhz cpu's, my PS2 killed my PC lol

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#37 04dcarraher
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The 8 core jaguar on the PS4 is weak , the jaguar architecture is only suppose to be on average 15% faster clock per clock faster then AMD's bobcat series. Which means that a Phenom 2 X4 above 3 ghz will be faster then the 8 core 1.6ghz jag. So ya an i5 or i7 will cream it.
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#38 muscleserge
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The PS4 CPU is just 8 netbook type CPUs glued together, its a pretty crude explanation but true, a modern PC CPU is far stronger, hell an athlon ll x4 is faster, not even talking about phenoms and i5s/i7s, etc. They wouldn't be able to fit a full fledged PC CPU on a chip with a 7850 on it, and definitely not an 8 core one.
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#40 cfisher2833
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Hi all, how would one of the latest intel i7 CPU compare against the AMD CPU that is inside the PS4? Isit all just guesswork or do we have a good estimation of the performance of each?CwlHeddwyn

 

Is this a joke? :|

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#41 adamosmaki
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not even close. You are talking about a low end mobile part possibly clocked under 2Ghz . Even Amd's former flagships phenom II should be significally faster
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#42 Marfoo
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Let's put this very simply. The latest i7 processors are the most advanced and fastest x86 processors on the market. No offense to AMD, they make good products, but Intel literally wrote the book here.
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still,comparing a 300$ cpu to a 300$ consoleMonsieurX

I paid 200 for mine.

Thanks Micro Center.  

Wish we had those in Canada :(

Micro Center thats 2 hours away from here has 3570k's @$169 and 3770k's @$220
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#44 dramaybaz
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PS4 has 8 CPUs whereas i7 is just one, therefore PS4 is clearly better.

Some of you are going to whine and say that it isn't individual CPUs, just cores. But even then PS4 CPU has more cores=better.

Couple that with GDDR5 ram, and we have a machine that rivals $5000 super computers.

[spoiler]

/Sarcasm

[/spoiler]

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#45 osirisx3
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ones for power desktops the other is for low power laptops and lablets how is that far? Whats next Toyota rabbit vs a ferrai?

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#46 adamosmaki
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PS4 has 8 CPUs whereas i7 is just one, therefore PS4 is clearly better.

Some of you are going to whine and say that it isn't individual CPUs, just cores. But even then PS4 CPU has more cores=better.

Couple that with GDDR5 ram, and we have a machine that rivals $5000 super computers.

[spoiler]

/Sarcasm

[/spoiler]

dramaybaz
Let alone the ability to autoupdate itself over the course of time so it stays ahead of high end pc's
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#47 Magescrew
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I think next gen CPUs will be more in line with desktop Core i3/i5s. CPUs haven't been a bottleneck for most gamers since before the release of Core 2 Duo.
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#48 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Thing is, we don't really need top of the line CPU's in consoles anymore.  Ps4 is basically taking the next step up from Wii U's approach with regards to the CPU, if you look at die shots of the PS4's APU and Wii U's MCM, you'll see the CPU is tiny in comparison.

The reason for that is, games have had roughly enough CPU power since the gamecube for any reasonable or most kinds of design that a developer could want.  We haven't been too limited in design since those days, in other words.  It's mostly about the GPU and memory, from here.

Wii U's CPU or Ps4's is more than plenty for the console's other parts list.

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#49 Magescrew
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Thing is, we don't really need top of the line CPU's in consoles anymore.  Ps4 is basically taking the next step up from Wii U's approach with regards to the CPU, if you look at die shots of the PS4's APU and Wii U's MCM, you'll see the CPU is tiny in comparison.

The reason for that is, games have had roughly enough CPU power since the gamecube for any reasonable or most kinds of design that a developer could want.  We haven't been too limited in design since those days, in other words.  It's mostly about the GPU and memory, from here.

Wii U's CPU or Ps4's is more than plenty for the console's other parts list.

Chozofication
This. CPU's for a device designed purely for gaming don't need to be behemoths like the Core i7.
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#50 FireEmblem_Man
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This truly a joke!

Please be a joke thread