IBM's POWER7 processor to be used for PS4

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#1 RedruM_I
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Looks like they went for a more traditional approach this time. Good for them. Let's hope it makes games easier to develop. I guess people will keep using Playstations for HPC though :P The only thing I'm worried about is backwards compatibility... :(

http://fgnonline.webs.com/

We can officially reveal in this world exclusive that SCEI has officially chosen IBM's currently in development POWER7 architecture for it's PlayStation 4 system, currently scheduled for a 2012 worldwide release.

IBM shall debut POWER7 for the server market in the summer of 2010. The PlayStation 4 shall use a cost effective version of the architecture custom designed for Sony's specific needs.

The only information FGNOnline currently has available regarding specifications and performance is that the PS4 implementation of the chip shall use 6-8 cores, 24-32MB shared L3 Cache, Quad threading per core, and a double precision performance approaching 200GFLOPS.

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#2 RadecSupreme
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This better not be too expensive. I wont be getting it at launch either way.

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#3 alextherussian
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Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?
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#4 Cherokee_Jack
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Well, Fast Gaming News Online said it, so that's basically the same as a confirmation from Sony themselves. If this were a Kotaku story, I might have questioned its accuracy, but Mr Zachary Morris' credibility is impeccable.
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#5 Meowmixxvi
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i'll wait a good 3-4 years before purchasing a next gen console after its released.
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#6 young_doe
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Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?alextherussian
Thats right. Makes perfect sense for them not wanting to be a year behind the competition and playing catch up like they are doing now.
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#7 george999819
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So much for the PS3's supposed 10 year lifepsan. LOL. I guess Sony have finally realized the PS3 is a complete and utter failure and a disgrace to the PlayStation brand name. It's not surprising to see they want to move on to the PS4 so quickly and put the failings of the PS3 behind them.

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#8 BlackTragedy
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since ps4 wont be out for at least 3 years I think they ll be using a procesorof that time not the current.

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#9 MethodManFTW
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That source is a webs.com site... So it is one hundred percent free for anyone to make one of those... I wouldn't say that's a good source.
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#10 alextherussian
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So much for the PS3's supposed 10 year lifepsan. LOL. I guess Sony have finally realized the PS3 is a complete and utter failure and a disgrace to the PlayStation brand name. It's not surprising to see they want to move on to the PS4 so quickly and put the failings of the PS3 behind them.

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10 Year life span never meant 10 years without introducing another console. Just 10 years of support for the PS3....
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#11 KH-mixerX
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2012 for the release of the POWER7. Not necessarily the PS4.

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So much for the PS3's supposed 10 year lifepsan. LOL. I guess Sony have finally realized the PS3 is a complete and utter failure and a disgrace to the PlayStation brand name. It's not surprising to see they want to move on to the PS4 so quickly and put the failings of the PS3 behind them.

george999819

ps2 is on year 9. does that mean ps3 is coming out next year.

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Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?alextherussian

PS 1994
------------- > 6 years
PS2 2000
------------- > 6 years
PS3 2006
------------- > 6 years
PS4 2012

Makes sense.

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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="george999819"]

So much for the PS3's supposed 10 year lifepsan. LOL. I guess Sony have finally realized the PS3 is a complete and utter failure and a disgrace to the PlayStation brand name. It's not surprising to see they want to move on to the PS4 so quickly and put the failings of the PS3 behind them.

10 Year life span never meant 10 years without introducing another console. Just 10 years of support for the PS3....

Exactly. They kept supporting the PS2 even after the release of the PS3. And this great news if it's true. I hope the problems developers had with the Cell taught Sony a lesson.
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since ps4 wont be out for at least 3 years I think they ll be using a procesorof that time not the current.

BlackTragedy
It says that the processor is currently in development. So, it wont be finsihed for some time. And another thing... when you want to release a new console, your not just slapping in state of the art hardware and release within a month. Especially not sony. They have years of development behind theyr consoles. So starting NOW with deciding upon CPU and GPU might not be a bad idea, when everything has to be especially tailored for PS4 specs.
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#16 HuusAsking
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Seems like they're not giving much thought to backwards compatibility. First a PowerVR-based GPU, now a straight POWER CPU (the Cell is POWER-based, but barely). Hope they don't leave Killzone and Uncharted fans in the cold once the next gen rolls around.

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[QUOTE="alextherussian"]Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?Cait__Sith

PS 1994
------------- > 6 years
PS2 2000
------------- > 6 years
PS3 2006
------------- > 6 years
PS4 2012

Makes sense.

Time really just flies by.....

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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"]

[QUOTE="alextherussian"]Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?alextherussian

PS 1994
------------- > 6 years
PS2 2000
------------- > 6 years
PS3 2006
------------- > 6 years
PS4 2012

Makes sense.

Time really just flies by.....

That is does, still feels like this gen just started rolling.

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now either the next xbox will use a more powerful hardware or they'll keep going with their Natal craze. :?

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[QUOTE="alextherussian"]Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?young_doe
Thats right. Makes perfect sense for them not wanting to be a year behind the competition and playing catch up like they are doing now.

Who are you to say that Microsoft won't release a system in 2011? They will have been on the market for 6 years by then. 7 years is unheard of for a console generation and if Sony plans on officially waiting till 2012, it should be painfully obvious that once again, Microsoft will undercut them by releasing a year sooner as it has been beneficial to them this generation.
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#21 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

since ps4 wont be out for at least 3 years I think they ll be using a procesorof that time not the current.

Exardious
It says that the processor is currently in development. So, it wont be finsihed for some time. And another thing... when you want to release a new console, your not just slapping in state of the art hardware and release within a month. Especially not sony. They have years of development behind theyr consoles. So starting NOW with deciding upon CPU and GPU might not be a bad idea, when everything has to be especially tailored for PS4 specs.

It says that the processor will be finished by summer 2010. That gives two years between processor and console release.
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Exardious"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

since ps4 wont be out for at least 3 years I think they ll be using a procesorof that time not the current.

It says that the processor is currently in development. So, it wont be finsihed for some time. And another thing... when you want to release a new console, your not just slapping in state of the art hardware and release within a month. Especially not sony. They have years of development behind theyr consoles. So starting NOW with deciding upon CPU and GPU might not be a bad idea, when everything has to be especially tailored for PS4 specs.

It says that the processor will be finished by summer 2010. That gives two years between processor and console release.

Even after the cell was launched with the PS3 the newer more faster models of the cell (for servers) released a year or so after. So the initial model of this new CPU may release 2010, but the actual one used int he PS4 maybe better by 2012.
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I doubt it. If so then Sony will not maintain B/C with the PS3. And why are they choosing a Power VR and not Nvidia?
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#24 young_doe
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[QUOTE="young_doe"][QUOTE="alextherussian"]Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?gamer620
Thats right. Makes perfect sense for them not wanting to be a year behind the competition and playing catch up like they are doing now.

Who are you to say that Microsoft won't release a system in 2011? They will have been on the market for 6 years by then. 7 years is unheard of for a console generation and if Sony plans on officially waiting till 2012, it should be painfully obvious that once again, Microsoft will undercut them by releasing a year sooner as it has been beneficial to them this generation.

Im just a normal member of GS making a comment. Who are you anyway? And how do you know what Microsoft will do?
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#25 gamer620
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I doubt it. If so then Sony will not maintain B/C with the PS3. And why are they choosing a Power VR and not Nvidia? Twig978
Could have something to do with the rumor of Nvidia dropping their high end GPU line in favor of mobile GPUs.

and ok young, ill just go with what you said. Makes far more sense. A 7 year life span for the 360 without a successor. makes perfect sense just like you said.

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#26 Exardious
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[QUOTE="Twig978"]I doubt it. If so then Sony will not maintain B/C with the PS3. And why are they choosing a Power VR and not Nvidia? gamer620

Could have something to do with the rumor of Nvidia dropping their high end GPU line in favor of mobile GPUs.

and ok young, ill just go with what you said. Makes far more sense. A 7 year life span for the 360 without a successor. makes perfect sense just like you said.

Wow that would be an ironic twist. Nvidia dumps High en GPU market to focus on Mobile GPUs. Sony then turns to a Mobile GPU manufacturer for a High end GPU.
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#27 gamer620
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[QUOTE="Exardious"] Wow that would be an ironic twist. Nvidia dumps High en GPU market to focus on Mobile GPUs. Sony then turns to a Mobile GPU manufacturer for a High end GPU.

Could also just be something as simple as Nvidia and Sony don't see eye to eye anymore.
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#28 Platforma
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So much for the PS3's supposed 10 year lifepsan. LOL. I guess Sony have finally realized the PS3 is a complete and utter failure and a disgrace to the PlayStation brand name. It's not surprising to see they want to move on to the PS4 so quickly and put the failings of the PS3 behind them.

george999819

I didn't read anywhere that they will stop supporting the PS3.

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#29 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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Wow, PS4 by 2012?

Looks like I may quit the Big 2 and settle for Nintendo's next console. This is just getting RIDICULOUS! And I just got the PS3 slim :roll:

Better yet, I'll probably move on to PC gaming, like I've always wished for, but never been motivated to.

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#30 Hahadouken
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This better not be too expensive. I wont be getting it at launch either way.

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I will. I like techy-sounding stuff with really high numbers, and words like "flops". Terraflops and gigaflops are awesome words. Day one purchase. And no, I'm not totally joking. Hahaha.
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#31 Hahadouken
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Wow, PS4 by 2012?

Looks like I may quit the Big 2 and settle for Nintendo's next console. This is just getting RIDICULOUS! And I just got the PS3 slim :roll:

Better yet, I'll probably move on to PC gaming, like I've always wished for, but never been motivated to.

VERTIGO47

Why is it ridiculous dude? 6 years? Even if you bought a PS3 at launch that breaks down to $100 a year.... how long do you want this gen to last, 20 years? 2 lifetimes?

I have already gotten more than my money's worth out of the console, I say bring on the next gen. They will still produce PS3/360 games, and I imagine they will be backwards compatible. Bring on the new ****, if you ask me!

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whats all this ps 4 talk of late?

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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

Wow, PS4 by 2012?

Looks like I may quit the Big 2 and settle for Nintendo's next console. This is just getting RIDICULOUS! And I just got the PS3 slim :roll:

Better yet, I'll probably move on to PC gaming, like I've always wished for, but never been motivated to.

Why is it ridiculous dude? 6 years? Even if you bought a PS3 at launch that breaks down to $100 a year.... how long do you want this gen to last, 20 years? 2 lifetimes?

I have already gotten more than my money's worth out of the console, I say bring on the next gen. They will still produce PS3/360 games, and I imagine they will be backwards compatible. Bring on the new ****, if you ask me!

yeah im fine with a new system by 2012 this gen is starting to show its age.
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#35 ShadowriverUB
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A child of Mac insted of next Cell, i think it's good choice. Still, i think this and PowerVR info is BS, i also can make no-name gamer site and type something like that, i wait for more sorces to belive it

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#36 garaa2007
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if ps3 is due in 2012 , can we expect Xbox 720 in 2011 ?

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[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

Wow, PS4 by 2012?

Looks like I may quit the Big 2 and settle for Nintendo's next console. This is just getting RIDICULOUS! And I just got the PS3 slim :roll:

Better yet, I'll probably move on to PC gaming, like I've always wished for, but never been motivated to.

Hahadouken

Why is it ridiculous dude? 6 years? Even if you bought a PS3 at launch that breaks down to $100 a year.... how long do you want this gen to last, 20 years? 2 lifetimes?

I have already gotten more than my money's worth out of the console, I say bring on the next gen. They will still produce PS3/360 games, and I imagine they will be backwards compatible. Bring on the new ****, if you ask me!

Too many games, too many choices, and not enough time! I feel like I'm going to have a meltdown!! :cry:

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#38 ShadowriverUB
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if ps3 is due in 2012 , can we expect Xbox 720 in 2011 ?

garaa2007

One year for Natal?... nahhhh

Besides MS don't need to worry for fanbase as it was with this gen, they got Halo hungry people on there side.

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OK, well this probably means they are focusing on a easier programmable CPU that can do General purpose processing better, because 200 G.FLOPS is'nt exactly a huge jump. I think the 8 core version will have around 256G.FLOPS, but if they had gone for a CELL it could probably have reached 1T.FLOPS. But they are probably going away from the CPU as a helper for the GPU.

I just hopes this means they are focusing on the development of a high end GPU that will challenge the ATI cards. Wonder how much RAM the PS4 will have and if it will be unified?? 4GB unified XDR2 memory maybe?? That would be cool.

And the PS3 won't die when the PS4 comes out, as long as the system is supported.

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#40 mr-krinkles
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Oh man, it feels too soon to me as well. So by 2012 my PS3 will be looking crappy like my PS2 did after four years.

Eh, I really wish they took this gen longer, both MS and Sony. Dunno why, I'm not looking forward to all that next-gen console hype. Funny thing is, that would have all been so irrelevant to me before, but now I've become a freaking regular on this board. Lulz.

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#41 Ontain
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And the PS3 won't die when the PS4 comes out, as long as the system is supported.

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I agree. though don't expect the ps3 to be as supported as the ps2 was. we all know it's because the ps2 was massively successful. the ps3 not so much.
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Wait, did I misunderstand that, PS4 in 2012?alextherussian
lol. i guarantee you, PSN is going sentient on judgement day.
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I have some advice for you sony, ditch IBM and contact AMD/Intel, all IBM does these days are processors with raw power but horrible results.
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#44 Truth_Hurts_U
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So pretty much there is going to be zero BC on PS4... No thanks.

Just hope MS sticks with ATI and make there system BC like I've been hearing.

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#45 skektek
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So much for the PS3's supposed 10 year lifepsan. LOL. I guess Sony have finally realized the PS3 is a complete and utter failure and a disgrace to the PlayStation brand name. It's not surprising to see they want to move on to the PS4 so quickly and put the failings of the PS3 behind them.

george999819

/facepalm

"Lifespan" refers to the time that the console is supported (e.g. the PS2's life span has not ended as it is still sold and developed for) not the time between console releases.

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#46 i_am_interested
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this is the same site that reported powerVR series 6 for the graphics card this site has no credibility, please label this as a rumor (a bad one)
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#47 whoDat_whoDat
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after this i cant see why anyone would want an xbox 720
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after this i cant see why anyone would want an xbox 720whoDat_whoDat

Don't be so sure of that. MS isn't dumb to let Sony beat them in the graphics & power department like Sony did for this gen, even if that happens to be true. That's just my opinion.

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this is the same site that reported powerVR series 6 for the graphics card this site has no credibility, please label this as a rumor (a bad one)i_am_interested
after this i cant see why anyone would want an xbox 720whoDat_whoDat
2 new accounts in a row?
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#50 whoDat_whoDat
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[QUOTE="whoDat_whoDat"]after this i cant see why anyone would want an xbox 720garland51

Don't be so sure of that. MS isn't dumb to let Sony beat them in the graphics & power department like they did for this gen, even if that happens to be true. That's just my opinion.

stop pretending like microsoft knows hardware. they are a software company, sony has been doing hardware for many years and many different things. RROD says hi.