if 50 cent BotS had a different protagonist would ppl like it more?

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#101 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] I think he is saying how scarface, the godfather, and godfellas are nothing but gangster movies. Yet people love them, and rap is considered gangster music and hated. Although rap has a little bit in it for everyone, if you look hard enough.nmaharg

It couldn't possibly be the style of music, or many other aspects of the two different media that would make them have different audiences could it? No no no no...

Personally I don't know what it is. I like both. I just think it's funny one is prasied for being gangster while the other is hated for it.

Again. You are missing the point (on purpose I hope?).

Goodfellas is often praised for it's compelling story and cinemetography. And I have heard plenty of great rap songs that have little to no gang references.

Wanna try again?

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#102 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]How does rap spawn violence? If anything rap is helping to slow it down. I can only speak on what I know. I know here in atlanta TI gets nothing but respect. TI alone has stopped a lot of beef in ATL. But you never hear about that. You never here about the HUGE beef between all the hurricane victims that migrated to ATL and the natives of ATL and how TI stopped all of it. But like I said rappers do what sell. The audience is changing though. With the likes of the cool kids, wale, and asher roth. Hip hop is seeing a change toward "softer" lyrics.blue_hazy_basic
You know when I was younger I used to listen to rappers like Ice T, and they tended to rap about where they grew up, life on the streets and real issues . Sure there were some songs that caused a stir (copkiller) but they rapped about things. Then you had a wave of commericalisation and rap became more about self-promotion (money, drugs, women) than singing about where you came from and the problems faced by the community. Haven't listenned to rap in a long time so I can't say how its evolved in more recent times.

Thats true with all forms of entertainment. Once the c operations get involved it stops being about whats good, and more about what sells. I fear the same is happening to videogames. Look at movies, like 90% aren't even worth watching anymore, but they sell.
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#103 shsonline
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[QUOTE=How are they hypocrites for not liking a genre of music?Cherokee_Jack
some people mentioned not liking rap music because it glorifies violence. dont be so defensive.
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#104 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

It couldn't possibly be the style of music, or many other aspects of the two different media that would make them have different audiences could it? No no no no...

Heydanbud92

Personally I don't know what it is. I like both. I just think it's funny one is prasied for being gangster while the other is hated for it.

Again. You are missing the point (on purpose I hope?).

Goodfellas is often praised for it's compelling story and cinemetography. And I have heard plenty of great rap songs that have little to no gang references.

Wanna try again?

No I understood your point, I just didn't have an answer, because like I said I like them both. I don't know what you want me to say? That they are different...? I though that was implied. The fact remains that they are both considered gangster.
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#105 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE=How are they hypocrites for not liking a genre of music?shsonline
some people mentioned not liking rap music because it glorifies violence. dont be so defensive.

how do you know they do like gangster movies though?

And the "don't be so defensive" comment was unnecessary, and a cop out response as we are having an important discussion that needs to be analyzed using critical thinking.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]How does rap spawn violence? If anything rap is helping to slow it down. I can only speak on what I know. I know here in atlanta TI gets nothing but respect. TI alone has stopped a lot of beef in ATL. But you never hear about that. You never here about the HUGE beef between all the hurricane victims that migrated to ATL and the natives of ATL and how TI stopped all of it. But like I said rappers do what sell. The audience is changing though. With the likes of the cool kids, wale, and asher roth. Hip hop is seeing a change toward "softer" lyrics.nmaharg
You know when I was younger I used to listen to rappers like Ice T, and they tended to rap about where they grew up, life on the streets and real issues . Sure there were some songs that caused a stir (copkiller) but they rapped about things. Then you had a wave of commericalisation and rap became more about self-promotion (money, drugs, women) than singing about where you came from and the problems faced by the community. Haven't listenned to rap in a long time so I can't say how its evolved in more recent times.

Thats true with all forms of entertainment. Once the c operations get involved it stops being about whats good, and more about what sells. I fear the same is happening to videogames. Look at movies, like 90% aren't even worth watching anymore, but they sell.

Couldn't agree more about fields. *looks @ Wii*
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#107 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]How are they hypocrites for not liking a genre of music?shsonline
some people mentioned not liking rap music because it glorifies violence. dont be so defensive.


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence, or a movie that simply depicts violence?

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#108 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Personally I don't know what it is. I like both. I just think it's funny one is prasied for being gangster while the other is hated for it.nmaharg

Again. You are missing the point (on purpose I hope?).

Goodfellas is often praised for it's compelling story and cinemetography. And I have heard plenty of great rap songs that have little to no gang references.

Wanna try again?

No I understood your point, I just didn't have an answer, because like I said I like them both. I don't know what you want me to say? That they are different...? I though that was implied. The fact remains that they are both considered gangster.

And it's impossible to like one and not the other without being a hypocrite?

and you didn't answer my previous question.

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#109 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]How are they hypocrites for not liking a genre of music?Cherokee_Jack

some people mentioned not liking rap music because it glorifies violence. dont be so defensive.


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence?

They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

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#110 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

Again. You are missing the point (on purpose I hope?).

Goodfellas is often praised for it's compelling story and cinemetography. And I have heard plenty of great rap songs that have little to no gang references.

Wanna try again?

Heydanbud92

No I understood your point, I just didn't have an answer, because like I said I like them both. I don't know what you want me to say? That they are different...? I though that was implied. The fact remains that they are both considered gangster.

And it's impossible to like one and not the other without being a hypocrite?

Thats relative. Personally I don't see how you could dislike either.
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#111 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"] some people mentioned not liking rap music because it glorifies violence. dont be so defensive.nmaharg


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence?

They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

That doesn't make much sense. And I'm starting to think you're not serious.

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#112 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"] some people mentioned not liking rap music because it glorifies violence. dont be so defensive.nmaharg


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence?

They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

yes they do.

the only difference: 50 cent is a real person, who apparently is rapping about real things in his life. The actors you see on screen aren't the real people, and if they were we wouldn't want to support them either, as it would be giving money to a criminal.

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#113 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence?

Cherokee_Jack

They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

That doesn't make much sense. And I'm starting to think you're not serious.

me too, I think he's either trolling, or is desperate because he has no argument.

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#114 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence?

Cherokee_Jack

They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

That doesn't make much sense. And I'm starting to think you're not serious.

What about it doesn't make sense?

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#115 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

Heydanbud92

That doesn't make much sense. And I'm starting to think you're not serious.

me too, I think he's either trolling, or is desperate because he has no argument.

What argument? I have no point to make. I simply answered his question.
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#116 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] No I understood your point, I just didn't have an answer, because like I said I like them both. I don't know what you want me to say? That they are different...? I though that was implied. The fact remains that they are both considered gangster.nmaharg

And it's impossible to like one and not the other without being a hypocrite?

Thats relative. Personally I don't see how you could dislike either.

:lol:

actually that is NOT relative at all. that statement is as far from being relative as is possible.

I see now that you have no idea what you are talking about, and you have a very narrow mind. Good luck in your private school that is funded by drug money man, I'm done with this thread.

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#117 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]


Oh, I'm not getting defensive. I was just curious.

Another question: why is a piece of music that glorifies real-world violence the same as a video game that glorifies fictional violence?

Heydanbud92

They invoke the same emotions. Whether violence is simulated or real the same emotions are felt. I read that in an article in discover magazine.

yes they do.

the only difference: 50 cent is a real person, who apparently is rapping about real things in his life. The actors you see on screen aren't the real people, and if they were we wouldn't want to support them either, as it would be giving money to a criminal.

So once a criminal always a criminal? If so i;m sure you have given your money to many criminals.

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#118 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

And it's impossible to like one and not the other without being a hypocrite?

Heydanbud92

Thats relative. Personally I don't see how you could dislike either.

:lol:

actually that is NOT relative at all. that statement is as far from being relative as is possible.

I see now that you have no idea what you are talking about, and you have a very narrow mind. Good luck in your private school that is funded by drug money man, I'm done with this thread.

How isn't it? Someone might say yeah that is hypocritical, while another person might say it isn't. It is relative,
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#119 _SWAG_
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im pretty sure ppl like this game just not here on gamespot

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#120 ShadowedSight
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They'd like it more if it was Lil Wayne.

Obviously. :roll:

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#121 treyskillz
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u guys think fanboys want more comfortable gaming cliche characters is that or is gaming hesitant to embrace american black culture in games ?darth-pyschosis

I think it's sad if american black culture is summed up as "50 cent",but it's still better than Chris Brown ... what ... to soon?