If Mass Effect gets a 9-10/10 then Final Fantasy 13 better get 10-11/10 imo

just look at the graphics on ff13 from the trailers and you will see exactly what im talkin about

the in game footage and the action shots in ff13 trailer look like cgi quality with no rigged faces and sloppy lip syncing

anyone can tell that that hundreds of more effort must be going into ff13 if they are able to make the facial movements look hundreds of times more realistic then mass effects

everytime i look at a mass effect character talking or moving its mouth i cringe in disgust the graphics look really almost terrible when compared to the ff13 footage now this is just graphically speaking aesthetically i feel the game is in a whole nother league as well

its something about japanese designers and graphic's that make there rpg's look real and flawless where as things like unreal/gears of war look fake an rigged an sloppy but with very complexgrfx mind you but it doesn't LOOK good like ff13 does

i dont even think metal gear solid 4 looks as good as ff13 either an its in a much earlier stage then that game so im not just harpin on the 360 games

also i have played bioware games they are huge big sandbox's and give you a lot of choices, but the storylines are very generic and not complex and don't bring in big world issues like square has done with nature vs science and lots of hugely deep plots that aren't even discussed in movies in this day an age ff is a trend setter in story department where as bioware has proved nothin in its previous games storywise

ok next we have characters go look at the guy in ff13 versus an measure him up to the main character in mass effect its not even close this guy looks like the next emoized super sephiroth compared to a baldin headed generic space dude who looks like a backup soldier in gears of war, hes not going to be winnin any character of the year awards like lightning the female lead in ff13 or that dude in ff13 versus an thats a fact, square put so much more effort into there characters just everythin about them looks better from faces to clothes to background to appearance everything.

gameplay bioware gameplay is usually pretty borin imo an i get seriously addicted to the combat in ff7/ffx and stuff i just love summoning my uber creatures like ifrit an bahamut and doing my massive limit breaks

bioware no ur gameplay isn't that fun sorry man it just isnt anmass effect looks like it contiunues that while ff13 looks like it goes deeper an next gen an more fun

and lastly music

i have massive amounts of ff mp3's and soundtracks in my mp3 player and my computer an listen to them all the time they are the best music in all video games period. and ff13 versus trailer music sounds brilliantly orchastreated starts off good then getsfast an awesome an pulls you in wow, i never felt this way with any of biowaremusic in the past an dont expect anythin new from what ive seen so far from mass effect's music compared the trailer in ff13 versus thats just next gen music againsquare enix has donean ff haspulled music further in there rpgs

mass effect is a good game but u cantcompare it to a next gen rpg like ff13 imo from whatweve seen so far

Final Fantasy XIII is going to be so damn amazing. I expect Squenix to get the story right on this one. The entry game into the console has always been amazing and arguably the best of itl's gen(FFIV,FFVII,FFX) I expect it to be the same with FFXIII.

KOTOR proved that the xbox could have great RPGs. Mass Effect Should do something similar (and togreater effect) for the 360

lol Final Fantasy stories do seem deep to people who have never read anything more complicated than the Pokey Puppy

You design your own character in Mass Effect it can be male or female. You make choices. FF is another JRPG on rails. Your motorcycle turns into "Shiva"? If it was anything but another whacky JRPG that would be considered STUPID. But FF boys think something like that is deep. "Yo its like Hindu and stuff"

TRANSLATION: I'm a cow and can't accept WRPGs being on par (if not better) than JRPGs.LosDaddie

It has nothing to do with that.

Western RPGs just generally suck, especially when it comes to story and music, two things which are bigger in RPGs than any other genre.

I'm and anime nerd and Square Enix can do no worng. Also anything at allWestern sucks. That's why FFXIII will be better than Mass Effect even though I haven't played either, let alone seen gameplay footage from FFXIIIProtossRushX

no bro im sorry but half of the ff13 trailer was cgi the last half was the character doing combat gameplaymoves using the BRAND NEW PLAYSTATION 3 'WHITE ENGINE' developed by Square Enix

they also made the legendary FF7 ps3 remastered intro using the white engine which was 100 percent non-cgi might wanna check it out again im sure you've seen it an blows mass effects graphics outa the water imo an his face looks so much more realistic then mass effect ones

the in game footage and the action shots in ff13 trailer look like cgi qualityProtossRushX

Bioware games have been better than Square games for a while now.

Final review scores are not based on graphics.

You can edit your characters appearance in ME.

YOU HAVENT PLAYED EITHER GAME

I think I covered it all. :P

no bro half of the ff13 trailer was cgi the last half was the character doing combat gameplay moves using the BRAND NEW PLAYSTATION 3 'WHITE ENGINE' developed by Square Enix they also made the legendary FF7 ps3 remastered intro using the white engine which was 100 percent non-cgi ProtossRushX

I doubt anyone will waste their time reading that.DirrtyNinja

[QUOTE="ProtossRushX"]the in game footage and the action shots in ff13 trailer look like cgi qualityHoffgod

dude did you watch the PS3FF7 INTRO of cloud comin out of the train with his sword are you telling me that is cgi or is that a gameplay engine cuz it sure doesnt look like cgi to me but it looks pretty close

no bro half of the ff13 trailer was cgi the last half was the character doing combat gameplay moves using the BRAND NEW PLAYSTATION 3 'WHITE ENGINE' developed by Square Enix they also made the legendary FF7 ps3 remastered intro using the white engine which was 100 percent non-cgi ProtossRushX

FF13 has never been shown running on actual Ps3 hardware to my knowledge (if I'm wrong I apologize, don't keep up on gaming expos any more).

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]TRANSLATION: I'm a cow and can't accept WRPGs being on par (if not better) than JRPGs.Out_Kast3000

It has nothing to do with that.

Western RPGs just generally suck,

Anyone else notice the irony?

Bioware has been owning Square Enix for years... get ready for it to happen again...
colmusterd28

lol no... just no....

[QUOTE="DirrtyNinja"]I doubt anyone will waste their time reading that.sam890

I did. It would have been less not-worth-it had he used punctuation and/or capitalization to separate ideas.

Him are gramerz and speleng egselent!

[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]Bioware has been owning Square Enix for years... get ready for it to happen again...
JAMES_L_BROOKS

lol no... just no....

Kotor and Baulder's gate II are better than any game square has pumped out since the SNES.

unless they have **** scene with yuna and tifa in FF13 they might have the upper handlonsy02

FF is trash,

WRPGs >> JPRPGs

I only read the first two sentences and it seems like you'll be basing your argument on absolute crap.

Before retrying this thread, I suggest:

1. Wait 'till both games are out. So we can agree/disagree with honesty. And you can try to actually makea point.

2. Learn that in SW a wall of text has the same chances of being read as a 360 has of being sold in Japan.

FF is trash,

WRPGs >> JPRPGs

Douja555

fail

[QUOTE="Douja555"]

FF is trash,

WRPGs >> JPRPGs

Out_Kast3000

fail

FF is an excellent series. One of my all time faves.

Still, for a good while WRPGs>JRPGs.

Chrono series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF though (note I would make that longer but it would just be annoying

just look at the graphics on ff13 from the trailers and you will see exactly what im talkin about

the in game footage and the action shots in ff13 trailer look like cgi quality with no rigged faces and sloppy lip syncing

anyone can tell that that hundreds of more effort must be going into ff13 if they are able to make the facial movements look hundreds of times more realistic then mass effects

everytime i look at a mass effect character talking or moving its mouth i cringe in disgust the graphics look really almost terrible when compared to the ff13 footage now this is just graphically speaking aesthetically i feel the game is in a whole nother league as well

its something about japanese designers and graphic's that make there rpg's look real and flawless where as things like unreal/gears of war look fake an rigged an sloppy but with very complexgrfx mind you but it doesn't LOOK good like ff13 does

i dont even think metal gear solid 4 looks as good as ff13 either an its in a much earlier stage then that game so im not just harpin on the 360 games

also i have played bioware games they are huge big sandbox's and give you a lot of choices, but the storylines are very generic and not complex and don't bring in big world issues like square has done with nature vs science and lots of hugely deep plots that aren't even discussed in movies in this day an age ff is a trend setter in story department where as bioware has proved nothin in its previous games storywise

ok next we have characters go look at the guy in ff13 versus an measure him up to the main character in mass effect its not even close this guy looks like the next emoized super sephiroth compared to a baldin headed generic space dude who looks like a backup soldier in gears of war, hes not going to be winnin any character of the year awards like lightning the female lead in ff13 or that dude in ff13 versus an thats a fact, square put so much more effort into there characters just everythin about them looks better from faces to clothes to background to appearance everything.

gameplay bioware gameplay is usually pretty borin imo an i get seriously addicted to the combat in ff7/ffx and stuff i just love summoning my uber creatures like ifrit an bahamut and doing my massive limit breaks

bioware no ur gameplay isn't that fun sorry man it just isnt anmass effect looks like it contiunues that while ff13 looks like it goes deeper an next gen an more fun

and lastly music

i have massive amounts of ff mp3's and soundtracks in my mp3 player and my computer an listen to them all the time they are the best music in all video games period. and ff13 versus trailer music sounds brilliantly orchastreated starts off good then getsfast an awesome an pulls you in wow, i never felt this way with any of biowaremusic in the past an dont expect anythin new from what ive seen so far from mass effect's music compared the trailer in ff13 versus thats just next gen music againsquare enix has donean ff haspulled music further in there rpgs

mass effect is a good game but u cantcompare it to a next gen rpg like ff13 imo from whatweve seen so far

ProtossRushX

well yeah(sarcasm) great thread but you just blabbered on about graphics for ages, all games that have been hyped becasue of graphics on the ps3 , have all flopped

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Douja555"]

FF is trash,

WRPGs >> JPRPGs

Zaxro

fail

FF is an excellent series. One of my all time faves.

Still, for a good while WRPGs>JRPGs.

Chrono series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF though (note I would make that longer but it would just be annoying

For a while they'v been better? They've never been better

Chrono Trigger/Cross is not better than FF and it's a JRPG, fail.

[QUOTE="Zaxro"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Douja555"]

FF is trash,

WRPGs >> JPRPGs

Out_Kast3000

fail

FF is an excellent series. One of my all time faves.

Still, for a good while WRPGs>JRPGs.

Chrono series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF though (note I would make that longer but it would just be annoying

For a while they'v been better? They've never been better

Chrono Trigger/Cross is not better than FF and it's a JRPG, fail.

JRPGs have been a lot worse since the Ps2 was released. WRPGs have been a lot better since then.

also I was saying ff gets too much credit Chrono trigger and cross are leagues ahead of any FF game (particularly Trigger)

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]TRANSLATION: I'm a cow and can't accept WRPGs being on par (if not better) than JRPGs.LosDaddie

It has nothing to do with that.

Western RPGs just generally suck,

Anyone else notice the irony?

Raskolnikov: "I didn't kill that old pawnbroker woman! All I did was place my axe in her brain cavity!"

Petrovich: "You phail. Off to Siberia with you!"

[QUOTE="Zaxro"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Douja555"]

FF is trash,

WRPGs >> JPRPGs

Out_Kast3000

fail

FF is an excellent series. One of my all time faves.

Still, for a good while WRPGs>JRPGs.

Chrono series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF though (note I would make that longer but it would just be annoying

For a while they'v been better? They've never been better

Chrono Trigger/Cross is not better than FF and it's a JRPG, fail.

Wouldn't that be more of an opinion??? Both his and yours

For me the FF series has been played out. Seriously, how many many sequels are they going to make.

Funny how you still haven't even named a WRPG that's been better.

Probably the only WRPG that should be put in the same sentence with some of the great JRPGs is KOTOR.

Funny how you still haven't even named a WRPG that's been better.

Probably the only WRPG that should be put in the same sentence with some of the great JRPGs is KOTOR.

Out_Kast3000

Funny how you still haven't even named a WRPG that's been better.

Probably the only WRPG that should be put in the same sentence with some of the great JRPGs is KOTOR.

Out_Kast3000

Baulders gate II, Oblivion, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Planetscape torment to name a few.

Wheras since 1997 (earliest game on the WRPG list I said) the only even comparable JRPGS were ff7, ffx and CC.

You must have not played many WRPGS, oblivion destroys most jrpgs.CrimsonBlade360

LOL, no.

Oblivion had horrible combat, and horrible story. It was still a good game becuase it was fun at times, but very overrated.