If nextbox is weaker than PS4 is it game over for MS?

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#1 CwlHeddwyn
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If the rumours are true and the Nextbox is weaker than PS4 will this technological inferiority spell disaster for the Nextbox? will most gamers flock to the PS4 because it's more powerful? Or will few people care?
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If the rumours are true and the Nextbox is weaker than PS4 will this technological inferiority spell disaster for the Nextbox? will most gamers flock to the PS4 because it's more powerful? Or will few people care?CwlHeddwyn

  If the best console is decided on a slight hardware advantage, gaming deserves to die..  Any one who makes graphics their first priority, you are the cancer of the industry.

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Aslong as 80% of multipalts are on the next xbox then microsoft are fine. The majority who are the normal people they dont know about specs etc. So they wont care unless they cant play games like fifa and cod on the next box.

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Yes they are doomed unless they go back and re-design the hardware to accommodate more powerful hardware. If they do this, I estimate the next Xbox will be out mid-2015. They can't afford this, as Sony is forcing their hand, and they will be unable to keep up. Sony is very smart when you think about it.
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No. The most powerful console is almost never the most successful console in its generation. Just look at the wii. It will come down to whoever markets the best
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Yes they are doomed unless they go back and re-design the hardware to accommodate more powerful hardware. If they do this, I estimate the next Xbox will be out mid-2015. They can't afford this, as Sony is forcing their hand, and they will be unable to keep up. Sony is very smart when you think about it.Sooshy
you know so little it's scary...
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Yes they are doomed unless they go back and re-design the hardware to accommodate more powerful hardware. If they do this, I estimate the next Xbox will be out mid-2015. They can't afford this, as Sony is forcing their hand, and they will be unable to keep up. Sony is very smart when you think about it.TheEroica
you know so little it's scary...

Actually, I know a lot and you should listen to me.
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They need to drop kinect(lol) to go core
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#9 Ghost120x
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If it is weaker it won't be by that much and it would be more cheaper to produce which means they could price it competitively.
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#10 SuperNovaftw
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They need to drop kinect(lol) to go core Heil68
Kinect is good. Without kinect the kids who own an xbox would have nothing to play.
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If the best console is decided on a slight hardware advantage, gaming deserves to die.. Any one who makes graphics their first priority, you are the cancer of the industry.

sSubZerOo

Anyone that support paying to play is the cancer... Or paying to use a serivce you are already paying for. So are the people that are supporting these stupid motion games. Which seem to finally be dying down now because they have no longevity.

Rather have a powerful system focused on mainstream games... Rather then a under powered hunk of crap that follows fads and makes you pay for free things or pay again.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]They need to drop kinect(lol) to go core SuperNovaftw
Kinect is good. Without kinect the kids who own an xbox would have nothing to play.

LOL. So you admit Microsoft caters to children.
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[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="Heil68"]They need to drop kinect(lol) to go core Sooshy
Kinect is good. Without kinect the kids who own an xbox would have nothing to play.

LOL. So you admit Microsoft caters to children.

No, Sony,microsoft and nintendo cater to children. Im just saying its a good thing if its half and half. The only thing that doesnt cater to children is PC gaming unless you count flash games.
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[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]No, Sony,microsoft and nintendo cater to children. Im just saying its a good thing if its half and half. The only thing that doesnt cater to children is PC gaming unless you count flash games.

The amount they cater to children is different. Sony is like 5-10%, and Microsoft is 70%, and I expect 80% at the start of next-gen
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]No, Sony,microsoft and nintendo cater to children. Im just saying its a good thing if its half and half. The only thing that doesnt cater to children is PC gaming unless you count flash games.

The amount they cater to children is different. Sony is like 5-10%, and Microsoft is 70%, and I expect 80% at the start of next-gen

Still it doesnt matter you ignorant fanboy. Catering to children is catering to children. Sony isnt 5-10% and microsoft isnt 70%
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#16 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"] Still it doesnt matter you ignorant fanboy. Catering to children is catering to children. Sony isnt 5-10% and microsoft isnt 70%

Yes, there is a difference between releasing a few products for children and that being your focus. It is MS's focus at this point.
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#17 SuperNovaftw
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"] Still it doesnt matter you ignorant fanboy. Catering to children is catering to children. Sony isnt 5-10% and microsoft isnt 70%

Yes, there is a difference between releasing a few products for children and that being your focus. It is MS's focus at this point.

Sony also caters to children as much as microsoft and im preety sure its the developers choice to use kinect and move.
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No, most people could not careless about specs. It all comes down to marketing.

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Sales have nothing to do with power.. Wii says high.
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#20 SuperNovaftw
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lol few products?

 

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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]No. The most powerful console is almost never the most successful console in its generation. Just look at the wii. It will come down to whoever markets the best

Super Nintendo won it's generation, so that is not true.
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#22 Truth_Hurts_U
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Sales have nothing to do with power.. Wii says high.tormentos

WiiU says I'm dead.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

If the best console is decided on a slight hardware advantage, gaming deserves to die.. Any one who makes graphics their first priority, you are the cancer of the industry.

Truth_Hurts_U

Anyone that support paying to play is the cancer... Or paying to use a serivce you are already paying for. So are the people that are supporting these stupid motion games. Which seem to finally be dying down now because they have no longevity.

Rather have a powerful system focused on mainstream games... Rather then a under powered hunk of crap that follows fads and makes you pay for free things or pay again.

... This goes for if the next xbox is more powerful over PS4.. Who gives a fvck, people seem not to realize the best looking games of this gen are actually not the most popular and most literally spend a dozen hours on..  And I am sorry but all the console developers follow fads.. 

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... This goes for if the next xbox is more powerful over PS4.. Who gives a fvck, people seem not to realize the best looking games of this gen are actually not the most popular and most literally spend a dozen hours on.. And I am sorry but all the console developers follow fads..

sSubZerOo

What the shooter fad? Oh boy, that I didn't know.

You don't see the big games doing motion do you? Nope.

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I think they'll position themselves as an inexpensive medium between the relatively beastly PS4 and the weakass WiiU. Meaning few people indeed will care.
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If the rumours are true and the Nextbox is weaker than PS4 will this technological inferiority spell disaster for the Nextbox? will most gamers flock to the PS4 because it's more powerful? Or will few people care?CwlHeddwyn

 

That's not the newest rumors I am reading. ;)

 

Also, it's not just about upfront power. It's about the underlying network and peripheral superiority. MS could be ticking all these boxes for all we know.

 

  • More power
  • Better Network
  • Technologically better motion, voice, etc peripheral (Kinect 2.0)

 

Oh, and MS could also probably sell the hardware cheaper up front (this is before any thought of a subsidized price with XBL or cable providers).

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]No. The most powerful console is almost never the most successful console in its generation. Just look at the wii. It will come down to whoever markets the best

Super Nintendo won it's generation, so that is not true.

1. I said ALMOST never 2. PS3 most powerful: Last Gamecube: Last 3. My point still stands anyways, MS can still be fine even if its not as powerful as devs are still going to cater to them anyway
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It's been game over for micro$uck since 2004.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

... This goes for if the next xbox is more powerful over PS4.. Who gives a fvck, people seem not to realize the best looking games of this gen are actually not the most popular and most literally spend a dozen hours on.. And I am sorry but all the console developers follow fads..

Truth_Hurts_U

What the shooter fad? Oh boy, that I didn't know.

You don't see the big games doing motion do you? Nope.

....... Your a moron.. Steel Batallion? A game that was hyped to high heaven in which they used the Kinect? Or games like Lair that were hyped before it's release as a flagship PS3 title? Wii also had quit ea few games before release hyped.. THey are not big games any more due to this failure, but that didn't stop the huge amount of hype before it..  These companies are businesses and they go where the money goes, it is no suprise they would be trying to add in this strategy if it were successful.

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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]No. The most powerful console is almost never the most successful console in its generation. Just look at the wii. It will come down to whoever markets the bestShewgenja
Super Nintendo won it's generation, so that is not true.

Super Nintendo was not the most powerful console of gen 4. See Neo Geo, CD-I, etc.

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Slight Hardware Advantage on PS4 wont make the biggest difference, but could mean a few better 3rd party games. I think PS4 and Next Xbox will be in the same ballpark, not much of a difference. I am sure both have easy devlop hardware this time around.

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If the rumours are true and the Nextbox is weaker than PS4 will this technological inferiority spell disaster for the Nextbox? will most gamers flock to the PS4 because it's more powerful? Or will few people care?CwlHeddwyn
since the weakest console has won every single generation ever no.

i don't think it will be a problem.

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]No. The most powerful console is almost never the most successful console in its generation. Just look at the wii. It will come down to whoever markets the bestRenegade_Fury

Super Nintendo won it's generation, so that is not true.

Super Nintendo was not the most powerful console of gen 4. See Neo Geo, CD-I, etc.

The only relevant players in that gen were the Sega Genesis, SNES, TurboGrafx16 and Atari Jaguar.

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They need to drop kinect(lol) to go core Heil68
Keep dreaming.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"] Super Nintendo won it's generation, so that is not true.Shewgenja

Super Nintendo was not the most powerful console of gen 4. See Neo Geo, CD-I, etc.

The only relevant players in that gen were the Sega Genesis, SNES and the TurboGrafix16.

You wrote most powerful. SNES was clearly not. The others lost because they were too expensive because of their power.

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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"] Super Nintendo won it's generation, so that is not true.Shewgenja

Super Nintendo was not the most powerful console of gen 4. See Neo Geo, CD-I, etc.

The only relevant players in that gen were the Sega Genesis, SNES and the TurboGrafix16.

you only have to look at sonic to see that the genesis was more advanced than the snes.

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If the past two gens have shown us anything it's that... oh never mind. 

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#38 DeX2010
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Question: If nextbox is weaker than PS4 is it game over for MS? Answer: No
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#39 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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I'll probably still get all 3 next gen cosoles, even the "720" will have things worth buying for.  But it might be near the end of the generation.

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The jelly and butthurt the calves have are so strong that they now only care for graphics.

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lol, nonsense.  

720 being weaker then PS4 is the least of the things i'd be worried about for MS's next console

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The jelly and butthurt the calves have are so strong that they now only care for graphics.

sonic1564

Stop switching sides or Sony may not forgive you. I'm trying to save you and give you the chance to redeem yourself. I want everyone to have the opportunity to buy the Godstation 4.

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#43 Speedzilla
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[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

The jelly and butthurt the calves have are so strong that they now only care for graphics.

ImBatman-

Stop switching sides or Sony may not forgive you. I'm trying to save you and give you the chance to redeem yourself. I want everyone to have the opportunity to buy the Godstation 4.

He's a big fat fakeboy. He can't be trusted.

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#44 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

The jelly and butthurt the calves have are so strong that they now only care for graphics.

Speedzilla

Stop switching sides or Sony may not forgive you. I'm trying to save you and give you the chance to redeem yourself. I want everyone to have the opportunity to buy the Godstation 4.

He's a big fat fakeboy. He can't be trusted.

lol @  you calling out someone for being a fakeboy. :lol:

good one.

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#45 Speedzilla
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[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]Stop switching sides or Sony may not forgive you. I'm trying to save you and give you the chance to redeem yourself. I want everyone to have the opportunity to buy the Godstation 4.

Riverwolf007

He's a big fat fakeboy. He can't be trusted.

lol @  you calling out someone for being a fakeboy. :lol:

good one.

Because I'm not a fakeboy nor fanboy.

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[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]Stop switching sides or Sony may not forgive you. I'm trying to save you and give you the chance to redeem yourself. I want everyone to have the opportunity to buy the Godstation 4.

Riverwolf007

He's a big fat fakeboy. He can't be trusted.

lol @  you calling out someone for being a fakeboy. :lol:

good one.

Our love for Sony is not fake.

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#47 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

He's a big fat fakeboy. He can't be trusted.

Speedzilla

lol @  you calling out someone for being a fakeboy. :lol:

good one.

Because I'm not a fakeboy nor fanboy.

lulz, do you read what you type?

you are one of the obvious fakeboys on here.

you don't even try to hide it.

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#48 Speedzilla
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[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]lol @  you calling out someone for being a fakeboy. :lol:

good one.

Riverwolf007

Because I'm not a fakeboy nor fanboy.

lulz, do you read what you type?

you are one of the obvious fakeboys on here.

you don't even try to hide it.

My love for Sony is not fake. Sorry sir, but you're wrong about me.

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Don't know about that. But their focus would definitely be, yup! You guessed it right, Kinect!:D

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#50 LazySloth718
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360 was weaker than PS3

Didn't help PS3's multiplats any