If PS Vita fails to beat 3DS is it a failure for Sony?

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, 30 million. Let's take 35 million units for Modern Warfare 3, okay? Still won't sell more than the 3DS's lifetime sales, will it? Dude, you seem to be in like this Call of Duty cult you know...CallOfDutyXxX

The DS didn't start selling well until a year and half into its life when it started getting better games.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The DS sold for 150 million units worldwide. Sig it.charizard1605

actually it sold 3.61 million

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"] Yup. MW3 on the PS3 will see day-one sales of at least 3.5 million. And that's the first day, only. 3DS has been a failure for Nintendo now, not even 3 million in a month.jadjei

actually it sold 3.61 million

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"] 20 million? Modern Warfare 2 sold 27 million copies: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3/news/6310982/call-of-duty-voice-actor-hints-at-modern-warfare-3 And Black Ops continues to sell like crazy. It presumably won't stop anytime soon, and when it's done and clear, it will have hit 30 million. Not to mention that it broke all the records that MW2 had previously broken. You obviously underestimate the selling capacity of COD.CallOfDutyXxX

You seriously think ANY Nintendo handheld these days could sell less than 40 million lifetime sales, even if the 3DS were utter rubbish (which it isnt), it would sell on name alone and still get more than any MW game.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"] How do you know that, taking into account the disappointing start of 3DS?CallOfDutyXxX

early 2013? You think it will take 2 years for the 3DS to hit the around 20-30 million?

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Because the console would have to be a massive failure of epic proportions- like the Virtual Boy- to sell anything less than 35 million units.Or it would need a competitor like the PS2. Seeing as it's none of those- for the first, it's getting some excellent games in the next twelve months, and for the latter, where is that competition?- it will easily coast past 40, 50 million units. If 'disappointing starts' were all we went by, then the PS3 and the DS should have been discarded to begin woth and the Dreamcast and the N64 should have been the highest selling consoles of all time. Look how that turned out. Seriously dude, give it up. You like to talk about day one and month one sales for Call of Duty, and that's a flash in the pan. Me, I'm talking about sustained sales over months and years. _Matt_

early 2013? You think it will take 2 years for the 3DS to hit the around 20-30 million?

[QUOTE="jadjei"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] So, you're saying that over its lifetime, Modern Warfare 3 on the PS3 will see more sales than the 3DS? :lol: Actually, you know what, let's make this more interesting. Let's keep it as all of Modern Warfare 3- on any and every platform, including a Wii and DS version, the PC and Xbox 360 versions, any versions that show up- let's keep it as ALL OF THOSE versus the 3DS, okay? The 3DS shipped 4 million units worldwide in its first month. It sold about 2.4 million of those. I wonder what 'failure' you are talking about.charizard1605

actually it sold 3.61 million

no nintendo annouced it sold 3.61 million worldwide and their aim was to sell 4 million which they shipped, just recently nintendo announced they finally sold 1 million 3ds in japan so probably the 3ds sold worldwide must probably at least be in 4-5 million, well by now.

Simple question:

If the PS Vita fails to beat the 3DS is it a failure for Sony?

CwlHeddwyn

PSV got nearly no chanc to outsell 3DS its just impossible but it will give 3DS a better challenge than what PSP did to DS.

The PSP sold 70 million units and it 'lost' to the DS, would you call the PSP a failure for sony?

supdotcom

guys i thought the psp was sony's second handheld doesnt any body remember the pocketstation?

http://static.skattertech.com/media/2006/01/sonypocketstation.jpg

Is pepsi a failure for overtaking coke

NO, AS LONG AS YOU MAKE MONEY YOU ARE DOING GOOD

The PSP sold 70 million units and it 'lost' to the DS, would you call the PSP a failure for sony?

should PSV have a large install base just like PSP has, and offer many great games just like PSP did and also have many extra functions/features just like PSP has than it will be a success just like PSP is for SONY..

lol @ mw3 on vita will outsell 3ds i dont think so ,

--- and i dont think nintendo or sony will be in trouble if either of these failed to out sell another,

because 1-3ds is making profit , has been since day one , sony has ps3 , and psp to fall back on , which already has a market, nintendo still gots ds , wii and the upcomign wii u

so nope , it will only mean that people werent ready for a new handheld

The PSVita isn't being created to knock the 3DS out of the market.

I still find it funny that people are trying to call the PSP a failure. It was Sony's first handheld and it sold over 70 million units. That is no failure by any stretch of the imagination. That is damn good for their first handheld. I didn't even get the PSP and got the DS instead and I am still saying this. The PSP is far from a failure and anybody saying it is is just letting their immature fanboyism show a bit too much. But like they say. haters are gonna hate.

No, but it's a failure if it ends up selling worse than the PSP. I would be surprised if this does'nt sell well, considering all the improvements. What is it people want in a handheld if not what the PSVita has?

Lets also factor in price this time around. Unlike last gen (PSP was $200 at launch and the DS was $150), the Vita cost the same as the 3DS. I also think that played a roll in the numbers of last gen, even if it was a small roll. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the Vita will outsell the 3ds because I just don't know. And frankly, I couldn't care less if it does or not. I am interested in both, but am only picking up the Vita for now. If I do get the 3DS, it will be after a few price drops and a redesign. I just don't find the 3DS worth the asking price when I can get the Vita for the same price and it is way more powerful and with more control inputs and functions. Not to mention price drops in games. Sony has them and Nintendo.......not so much. Not hating on the 3DS, but it will be between $150-$170 before I fork out the money to buy myself one.

If I remember correctly Sony said before they're trying to meet/exceed the levels they reached with the first PSP, not really to outdo Nintendo.

In that regard, I think they'd be successful. The PSP wasn't a failure, it was really successful, especially for a company's first attempt at a handheld.

If I remember correctly Sony said before they're trying to meet/exceed the levels they reached with the first PSP, not really to outdo Nintendo.

In that regard, I think they'd be successful. The PSP wasn't a failure, it was really successful, especially for a company's first attempt at a handheld

Haziqonfire

The fact that Sony even managed to release a second handheld is pretty successful I would say. Nintendo usually steam rolls over the competition so badly that they wouldn't even attempt a second handheld.

The fact that Sony even managed to release a second handheld is pretty successful I would say. Nintendo usually steam rolls over the competition so badly that they wouldn't even attempt a second handheld.

OneLazyAsian

The fact that Sony even managed to release a second handheld is pretty successful I would say. Nintendo usually steam rolls over the competition so badly that they wouldn't even attempt a second handheld.

OneLazyAsian

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]another failure Handheld from sony IMO. Why get into the handheld race if you just want to come up last every time ? :lol:The_Pacific

wow, not sure if serious. Are you saying the PSP is a failure? If so Im guessing you are also going to call the 360 a failure too? Cos the PSP sdold more than the 360 did, and probabaly more than the 360 ever will

360 = 2nd place and taking huge market share from the ps3. Thats not a failure.

Get your head out of your ass.

even the psp is a worthy system so no..it wont be a failure in gamers eyes...financially..yes it will be EPIC fail AGAIN..

No, because releasing a handheld like the Vita means that Sony isn't trying to beat out the 3DS. They're just trying to carve out a market for themselves. The Vita is just not very child-oriented.

The success of one product is not dependant on it doing "better" than another product. Every product's success is measured by weighing its own figures as far as revenues, costs, and profits.

All the systems can be successful, albeit to different degrees.

no sony makes the best products and non are failures and are better than nintendos in my eyes. psvita will be the most successful handheld in my eyes

The Vita may not outsell the 3ds but it will definitely be a better handheld system.

Of course it'll be a failure for Sony.

Yes because PSP V is the embodiment of their console on the go philosophy.

No, being in second place doesn't mean your a failure. It can still be a profitable platform for Sony.

Remember guys, as much as we rag on the PSP, it did sell 70 million machines, and it survived the DS. and it's getting a successor.

Something that no other company has been able to do as well as Sony has when in competition with Nintendo in the handheld area.

The Vita may not outsell the 3ds but it will definitely be a better handheld system.

Jfisch93

psp didnt beat ds at all and it wasnt a failure

[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

The Vita may not outsell the 3ds but it will definitely be a better handheld system.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

The Vita may not outsell the 3ds but it will definitely be a better handheld system.

93BlackHawk93

But that wouldn't matter, seeing how that did not help the N64, the Gamecube, the Xbox, the Playstation 3, and perhaps most relevant to this discussion, the PSP. It's the games that count ;)charizard1605

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I wonder where you get that from...charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] But that wouldn't matter, seeing how that did not help the N64, the Gamecube, the Xbox, the Playstation 3, and perhaps most relevant to this discussion, the PSP. It's the games that count ;)shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"] Because it has better hardware. ;)

93BlackHawk93