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I'm sure Sony is looking forward to it as well. No more billion dollar loses each quarter. Sony obviously aren't making any profit from PS+ or HOME, that's for sure. If they are, it's not making any dent in their poor quarterly performance.This has got to be the no.1 thing that Lems are looking forward to next gen. Hoping and praying that Sony begins to charge for psn so they no longer have to take a beating from cows and herms.
ispeakfact
[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]I'm sure Sony is looking forward to it as well. No more billion dollar loses each quarter. Sony obviously aren't making any profit from PS+ or HOME, that's for sure. If they are, it's not making any dent in their poor quarterly performance. Sony's billion dollar loss each quarter is not from there gaming department. In fact their gaming department is the one making money it's their other bad decisions like over priced TVs that are causing all the losses.This has got to be the no.1 thing that Lems are looking forward to next gen. Hoping and praying that Sony begins to charge for psn so they no longer have to take a beating from cows and herms.
XanderZane
No, but I wouldn't pay for it, I just wouldn't game online on console (not that I do much now anyway).
I'll just do what I did this gen and have both at different points, or i'll wait and weigh it up to see which one I prefer. If Sony deliver the goods, i'll happily get another PS product as I've always had the best experiences with them.
if m$ ban used games next gen,i would consider sony charging for online to be the lesser of two evils and jump ship to ps4!
Considering despite my best efforts i still end up playing mainly on one system. I probably would still pay the subscription fee provided it's reasonable price.
Considering it's Sony and knowing how they like to price things this might not be the case....
That all said though, i'd prefer if they kept it the way it is.
Or steam......you do realize that steam is not a system and is little more than an online store, right? Anyways, I am a PC gamer and the PS4 is the only console I am interested in. If they decide to charge for their online, then I will just ignore consoles next gen and focus only on PC.If PS4 charges for Online will it be a deal breaker for you and cause to jump ship to either Xbox, Wii U or Steam?
I'll put up a poll tomorrow.
Shielder7
No difference to me, really.
I rarely play online on PSN and I don't have and refuse to pay for XBL Gold.
I'm reading posts by atleast 4 people that recently have said Microsoft is evil for charging for online yet fully admit they would stick with sony next gen if they charged for online...
Let's say it's 50 a year. I rather spend that 250 of 5 year lifespan on upping my PC than paying for something I already get on my PC.
I will not pay to play online but i will buy the system just like the 360 i have the system but not play online.johny300same here. Hopefully Sony would have free months available through new games like live.
Depends.
How much is the console, do they have a number of quality exclusives, are they improving the online with this extra money?
It wouldnt be difficult for me to upgrade my PC into a gaming PC, but i dont see Sony doing this, free online is one of their big features.
There is still Nintendo and PCif m$ ban used games next gen,i would consider sony charging for online to be the lesser of two evils and jump ship to ps4!
skilfulgary
[QUOTE="Shielder7"]Or steam......you do realize that steam is not a system and is little more than an online store, right? . Sigh yes Steam = PC.If PS4 charges for Online will it be a deal breaker for you and cause to jump ship to either Xbox, Wii U or Steam?
I'll put up a poll tomorrow.
AmazonTreeBoa
jump ship where? nex xbox will charge aswell. so might aswell stay with new ps4If PS4 charges for Online will it be a deal breaker for you and cause to jump ship to either Xbox, Wii U or Steam?
I'll put up a poll tomorrow.
Shielder7
Nope, Sony is known for making great and fun games so staying with them and not going to bother with the other systems
finalstar2007
lol@you again.
cows are such hypocrites. i predict many of them saying how they would stay and pay now in this thread. but we've all seen thread after thread of them bashing Xbox Live n the fee like its some big outrage....Sony does it, "eh...i'll pay" tools:lol: i hope Sony charges AND makes a Kinect so we can watch these fools backtrack n lick Sony's butt.
and no, Sony is known for making generic but plentiful games. not great fun games...only maybe two ps3 exclusives really stood out this gen. the rest, generic trash.
no, so we can laugh at cow hypocrites lol. most 360 users give two ****s about 50 a year and could even get Live Gold for much less than that. we just want to laugh at you and see you compromise urself for a big corporation...again ;)This has got to be the no.1 thing that Lems are looking forward to next gen. Hoping and praying that Sony begins to charge for psn so they no longer have to take a beating from cows and herms.
ispeakfact
[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Lems better hope Sony charges because the PS Vita has Party System & Cross Game Chat for free right now. If they don't charge for it on the PS4 while Microsoft still is their argument is gone pretty much.This has got to be the no.1 thing that Lems are looking forward to next gen. Hoping and praying that Sony begins to charge for psn so they no longer have to take a beating from cows and herms.
FlamesOfGrey
wat argument....seriously Lems don't care that much about the fee. cows n hermits(sometimes) care a whole lot more about the small fee than Lems do. if it was 50 a month yea i would understand the b****ing and moaning...but its 50 a YEAR! lol...get over it.
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[QUOTE="woodenfork21"]
Sony is known for making generic but plentiful games. not great fun games...only maybe two ps3 exclusives really stood out this gen. the rest, generic trash.
Pug-Nasty
Someone give this guy a medal.
:lol:
That medal seems rather appropriate for him. Good find.
[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
[QUOTE="Tikeio"]
Someone give this guy a medal.
Tikeio
:lol:
That medal seems rather appropriate for him. Good find.
kids these days...how about this, how about telling me what exactly was stupid about my post? better yet...lets hear a list of all these great fun ps3 exclusives and shut me up completely. besides the usual Uncharted, Killzone, GOW...n maybe LBP, what other great ps3 exclusives are there this gen....since theres soooo many. theres gotta be a ton more u can list right...most people would recognize them as great games. list them.
lets see a list so my dumb ass will see the light:P. because besides the ones i listed and infamous i have no idea what these great fun ps3 exclusives are...do you? if so list them n wow me. add their scores to if u want. you say there are so many that i cannot wait to see this massive list of awesome games.
p.s. thanks for the medal....i'll put it next to ur mom's panties.
[QUOTE="Tikeio"]
[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
woodenfork21
:lol:
That medal seems rather appropriate for him. Good find.
kids these days...how about this, how about telling me what exactly was stupid about my post? better yet...lets hear a list of all these great fun ps3 exclusives and shut me up completely. i'm pretty sure besides the usual Uncharted, Killzone, GOW...n maybe LBP, what other great ps3 exclusives are there this gen....since theres soooo many. theres gotta be a ton more u can list right...most people would recognize them as great games. list them.
lets see a list so my dumb ass will see the light:P. because besides the ones i listed and infamous i have no idea what these great fun ps3 exclusives are...do you? if so list them n wow me. add their scores to if u want. you say there are so many that i cannot wait to see this massive list of awesome games.
p.s. thanks for the medal....i'll put it next to ur mom's panties.
Well you listed 4, despite your dumb ass (your words not mine) saying 2 orignially.
There's also Warhawk, Modnation Racers, Heavy Rain, MGS IV, and Resistance 1 & 2 (3 can suck it), and Demon's Souls. Two of those games were GOTY winners here.
That's off the top of my head. So, we may have just proven what we already knew. You can't fix stupid.
and how is this surprising?I'm reading posts by atleast 4 people that recently have said Microsoft is evil for charging for online yet fully admit they would stick with sony next gen if they charged for online...
WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="woodenfork21"]
[QUOTE="Tikeio"]
:lol:
That medal seems rather appropriate for him. Good find.
Pug-Nasty
kids these days...how about this, how about telling me what exactly was stupid about my post? better yet...lets hear a list of all these great fun ps3 exclusives and shut me up completely. i'm pretty sure besides the usual Uncharted, Killzone, GOW...n maybe LBP, what other great ps3 exclusives are there this gen....since theres soooo many. theres gotta be a ton more u can list right...most people would recognize them as great games. list them.
lets see a list so my dumb ass will see the light:P. because besides the ones i listed and infamous i have no idea what these great fun ps3 exclusives are...do you? if so list them n wow me. add their scores to if u want. you say there are so many that i cannot wait to see this massive list of awesome games.
p.s. thanks for the medal....i'll put it next to ur mom's panties.
Well you listed 4, despite your dumb ass (your words not mine) saying 2 orignially.
There's also Warhawk, Modnation Racers, Heavy Rain, MGS IV, and Resistance 1 & 2 (3 can suck it), and Demon's Souls. Two of those games were GOTY winners here.
That's off the top of my head. So, we may have just proven what we already knew. You can't fix stupid.
i said maybe 2 you dumb****. and only 2 of the games i would say are exceptional. 3 when i include Heavy Rain...the rest, generic trash like i said. get it together...get a grip on whats being said exactly. nobody wants to have to dumb down everything for you so u can contribute accordingly. i mean seriously...WarHawk...MODNATION RACERS???? wow...u humbled urself a lot to put some of these down.besides, those are older ps3 games and the 360 has games to match those all for the most part. i was moreso talking about the NEW ones that cows have been bragging so much about last year. there were suppose to be like 20 new exclusives for the ps3 last year...but u make me a list of games that came out years ago:?
he said that he'd stay with Sony because its making a ton of new great fun games. so what are they? i mean, if we want to go back years n years then the 360 more than matches the ps3 in games and exclusives. but lets narrow it down to the last 2 years friend, alright? with the 20 games last year and the games in 2010 you're going to make a hellavah list....lets see it. :D games games games....can't wait to hear about all the games!!:P
Warhawk is indeed older, but you are incorrect in implying the 360 has any game that matches it, either in style or online functionality.
ModNation Racers isn't particularly old, and it's not like it's a genre that sees tons of iterations like, say, FPS games. Additionally, it's a game of neverending added content, another thing lacking on the 360.
You said two, then listed four. Maybe two doesn't mean four, it means barely two. All the games I listed are great. It's sad that you haven't had the opportunity to play them.
I also don't see how new games is an argument you would like to go for, since the 360, or the Wii for that matter, aren't exactly swimming in new, great, exclusive content. The ps3 by far has the most recent noteworthy exclusives.
he said that he'd stay with Sony because its making a ton of new great fun games. so what are they? i mean, if we want to go back years n years then the 360 more than matches the ps3 in games and exclusives. but lets narrow it down to the last 2 years friend, alright? with the 20 games last year and the games in 2010 you're going to make a hellavah list....lets see it. :D games games games....can't wait to hear about all the games!!:PInfamous 1,2, Demon Souls, Uncharted 2-3, Resistance 3, GOW 3, Kill Zone 3. And that's just the list I have played, not to mention the ones in the works.woodenfork21
Really its a well known fact that PS3 has more and better exclusives even most Xbox fanboys admit that. Microsoft themselves said they didn't care about exclusives anymore when they gutted Rare. For Xbox exclusives you can count on Halo and Gears every few years and if you don't like shooters that much your **** out of luck.
well i don't play online but what would be the point of jumping fromPlaysation to xbox, jumping from one paid online to another makes mo sense besides, i get the feeling SONY would rather go bankcrupt than charge for online, everything they seem to do is pretty good for gamers but bad for there own business.If PS4 charges for Online will it be a deal breaker for you and cause to jump ship to either Xbox, Wii U or Steam?
I'll put up a poll tomorrow.
Shielder7
i said maybe 2 you dumb****. and only 2 of the games i would say are exceptional. 3 when i include Heavy Rain...the rest, generic trash like i said. get it together...get a grip on whats being said exactly. nobody wants to have to dumb down everything for you so u can contribute accordingly. i mean seriously...WarHawk...MODNATION RACERS???? wow...u humbled urself a lot to put some of these down.[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
[QUOTE="woodenfork21"]
Well you listed 4, despite your dumb ass (your words not mine) saying 2 orignially.
There's also Warhawk, Modnation Racers, Heavy Rain, MGS IV, and Resistance 1 & 2 (3 can suck it), and Demon's Souls. Two of those games were GOTY winners here.
That's off the top of my head. So, we may have just proven what we already knew. You can't fix stupid.
woodenfork21
besides, those are older ps3 games and the 360 has games to match those all for the most part. i was moreso talking about the NEW ones that cows have been bragging so much about last year. there were suppose to be like 20 new exclusives for the ps3 last year...but u make me a list of games that came out years ago:?
he said that he'd stay with Sony because its making a ton of new great fun games. so what are they? i mean, if we want to go back years n years then the 360 more than matches the ps3 in games and exclusives. but lets narrow it down to the last 2 years friend, alright? with the 20 games last year and the games in 2010 you're going to make a hellavah list....lets see it. :D games games games....can't wait to hear about all the games!!:P
you giving out stupid medals is like a blind guy asking another blind how the view is...Warhawk is indeed older, but you are incorrect in implying the 360 has any game that matches it, either in style or online functionality.
ModNation Racers isn't particularly old, and it's not like it's a genre that sees tons of iterations like, say, FPS games. Additionally, it's a game of neverending added content, another thing lacking on the 360.
You said two, then listed four. Maybe two doesn't mean four, it means barely two. All the games I listed are great. It's sad that you haven't had the opportunity to play them.
I also don't see how new games is an argument you would like to go for, since the 360, or the Wii for that matter, aren't exactly swimming in new, great, exclusive content. The ps3 by far has the most recent noteworthy exclusives.
Pug-Nasty
i hate when people jump in conversations and don't know what exactly is going on or whats being said or talked about.
FinalStar said that he'd stick with Sony and the ps3 even if they started charging for online because the system pumps out new great fun games for him to gobble up. i said that the system releases a few good games but for the most part the games released are generic and meh type games. which is my opinion of the games anyway...it can't really be disputed because the opinion is MINES. anyway, the opinion is true for the most part. you proved my point for me.
when i asked for a list you named a bunch of older games instead of any of the 20 games that came out last year. they are so generic and boring that they slipped ur mind completely. you had to go back years to even add games to the list to try and prove a point...20 games came out last year for the ps3, none of them noteworthy enough to stick in ur head besides the ones i myself listed. even in the ones i listed i said only 2 of them could be considered great games, n the rest, generic trash...i even did u a favor and added Heavy Rain to the mix for you. 3 games i appreciate and would say did well by Sony's name. the rest generic trash and give no reason to stick by Sony if they added online fees.
the 360 and PC have superior online service aswell as the better games in all. with the 360z exclusives, PC/360 games, and superior multiplat versions...jumping ship from Sony shouldnt be a hard choice for anyone i'd say. they're not producing. if they add an online fee to...screw em. 3 out of 20 games suck, multiplats suck, small amount of PC/PS3 games, the list goes on...if they added online fees to i'd think anyone would say SCREW YOU SONY! unless ur a rabid cow Sony devoted.
also, the 360 does have a game like ModNation Racers and it trumps it easily:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PVwI8lED3U&list=PLAAFD1A8B31DED906&index=132&feature=plpp_video
I named games I have played. Some of them may be older, but I haven't had time to play many games this past year and a half to two years. i suppose I could post a bunch of games I haven't played because they are more recent, just as you post a bunch of games you haven't played as examples of "generic" games, but then I'd be no better than you. I don't know if I could live with that.
Infamous 1,2, Demon Souls, Uncharted 2-3, Resistance 3, GOW 3, Kill Zone 3. And that's just the list I have played, not to mention the ones in the works.[QUOTE="woodenfork21"]he said that he'd stay with Sony because its making a ton of new great fun games. so what are they? i mean, if we want to go back years n years then the 360 more than matches the ps3 in games and exclusives. but lets narrow it down to the last 2 years friend, alright? with the 20 games last year and the games in 2010 you're going to make a hellavah list....lets see it. :D games games games....can't wait to hear about all the games!!:P
Shielder7
Really its a well known fact that PS3 has more and better exclusives even most Xbox fanboys admit that. Microsoft themselves said they didn't care about exclusives anymore when they gutted Rare. For Xbox exclusives you can count on Halo and Gears every few years and if you don't like shooters that much your **** out of luck.
:lol: this guy has to go years back to...good stuff on here today. medals all around lmao.here's a lesson kids, if someone ur debating with answers and posts get shorter and shorter...you're winning the debate and they're grasping at straws:lol:I named games I have played. Some of them may be older, but I haven't had time to play many games this past year and a half to two years. i suppose I could post a bunch of games I haven't played because they are more recent, just as you post a bunch of games you haven't played as examples of "generic" games, but then I'd be no better than you. I don't know if I could live with that.
Pug-Nasty
but yea, you played none of the totally awesome ps3 exclusives that came out last year...there were over 20 of them!!!!! none of them were good enough for you to buy and support Sony with. thats strange...were they generic or trash? or were they so great that you have to wait and compose urself first before playing them in their greatness. NONE of those 20 ps3 exclusives caught ur eye all year...hmm, odd.
you handing out stupid medals is like....etc
here's a lesson kids, if someone ur debating with answers and posts get shorter and shorter...you're winning the debate and they're grasping at straws:lol:[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
I named games I have played. Some of them may be older, but I haven't had time to play many games this past year and a half to two years. i suppose I could post a bunch of games I haven't played because they are more recent, just as you post a bunch of games you haven't played as examples of "generic" games, but then I'd be no better than you. I don't know if I could live with that.
woodenfork21
but yea, you played none of the totally awesome ps3 exclusives that came out last year...there were over 20 of them!!!!! none of them were good enough for you to buy and support Sony with. thats strange...were they generic or trash? or were they so great that you have to wait and compose urself first before playing them in their greatness. NONE of those 20 ps3 exclusives caught ur eye all year...hmm, odd.
you handing out stupid medals is like....etc
As I said, I don't have time. I'm not a youth living with my parents, still drinking milk from my Mother's teet.
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