If shooters are the "it" genre...why are people gaming on consoles?

Well I know why people are gaming on consoles (i do have the big 3) but I find it funny that most gamers are playing FPS, yet fail to have even a "decent" 600-1k PC that can play most FPS. You don't need a beefy PC to play one of the most challenging and skill based FPS's (CS:S) and yet console gamers just talk about gears, socom and halo. L4D is a great example of why good shooters are best on PC. L4D has gotten FPS of the year over gears 2 and resistence, yet it will be forgotten in "console land" within a month. Is it coincidence that PC gamers will be playing this game for years to come? Simply, the controls just didn't translate well to the console. They even tried to add a 180 degree turn and more auto aim. The reality is that PC FPS games offer maps and level design that just are not possible on consoles (sharp angles). Playing halo 3 or gears 2 and then playing a game of counter-strike source (4 years old) really nails that point home.

Bottom line, if you want to enjoy shooters "the way they are meant to be played" then you should be gaming on the PC. Console shooters are decent but are completely gimped compared to PC (L4D is a perfect example of how an FPS just isn't meant to be played on consoles unless they are gimped and made for the console to start a la Halo 3).

L4D> CS:S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo3, gears, R2, etc

it's because console gamers don't play as much as PC gamers and don't want to get owned every 5secJanton3

lol thats so true. And to the person saying that there are other genres...true. Hence why i own the 3 consoles. However consolites LOVE their shooters....just they are NOTHING compared to PC shooters.

I love playing the older shooters on the PC but not the newer ones. I find myself scrambling to push the right key to get something done, even after I configure the controls. Although aiming is a lot easier I just find it more convenient to play it on the consoles, and I would take splitscreen over LAN anytime.SOedipus

Because recliners and couches are the "it" places to sit.;)getyeryayasout

cant argue with that:P

Well I know why people are gaming on consoles (i do have the big 3) but I find it funny that most gamers are playing FPS, yet fail to have even a "decent" 600-1k PC that can play most FPS. You don't need a beefy PC to play one of the most challenging and skill based FPS's (CS:S) and yet console gamers just talk about gears, socom and halo. L4D is a great example of why good shooters are best on PC. L4D has gotten FPS of the year over gears 2 and resistence, yet it will be forgotten in "console land" within a month. Is it coincidence that PC gamers will be playing this game for years to come? Simply, the controls just didn't translate well to the console. They even tried to add a 180 degree turn and more auto aim. The reality is that PC FPS games offer maps and level design that just are not possible on consoles (sharp angles). Playing halo 3 or gears 2 and then playing a game of counter-strike source (4 years old) really nails that point home.

Bottom line, if you want to enjoy shooters "the way they are meant to be played" then you should be gaming on the PC. Console shooters are decent but are completely gimped compared to PC (L4D is a perfect example of how an FPS just isn't meant to be played on consoles unless they are gimped and made for the console to start a la Halo 3).

L4D> CS:S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo3, gears, R2, etc

Dave_NBF

lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?pwner372

this statement is wrong on so many levels

lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?pwner372

[QUOTE="SOedipus"]I love playing the older shooters on the PC but not the newer ones. I find myself scrambling to push the right key to get something done, even after I configure the controls. Although aiming is a lot easier I just find it more convenient to play it on the consoles, and I would take splitscreen over LAN anytime.DragonfireXZ95

Keyboard and mouse will be obsolete for FPS once the HD consoles get motion control. It'll happen eventually.Parasomniac

[QUOTE="pwner372"]lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="pwner372"]lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?ps3_owns_360Wii

this statement is wrong on so many levels

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[QUOTE="pwner372"]lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?pwner372

this statement is wrong on so many levels

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

[QUOTE="pwner372"]lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?pwner372

this statement is wrong on so many levels

lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?pwner372

The same games? Lolz. L4D is the "same game" but "oh so different." I don't see Counter-strike or day of defeat on the console also.

Ok, so there you have it, you admit that price is the deciding factor on playing the gimped version of console gamers favorite genre. The average console gamer spends a LOT of money on a LOT of games. Most PC gamers can play the same game for years due to mod support and longer replay through constant free updates. CS:S is a testament to that as well as L4D (will be heavily supported). Price really is not the point of this thread as that point has been debunked a billion times on SW.

SO to recap thus far the reasons are:

1. "couches are the it places to sit"

2. "I like ma TV and ma beer"

3. "Teh price is teh crazy"

Hmmmm....fail. ill sell you an old xps desktop with a 6800 GT and p4 3.4ghz processor for 200 bucks and it will play CS:S just fine.

[QUOTE="pwner372"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

this statement is wrong on so many levels

SOedipus

[QUOTE="pwner372"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

this statement is wrong on so many levels

SOedipus

Well I know why people are gaming on consoles (i do have the big 3) but I find it funny that most gamers are playing FPS, yet fail to have even a "decent" 600-1k PC that can play most FPS. You don't need a beefy PC to play one of the most challenging and skill based FPS's (CS:S) and yet console gamers just talk about gears, socom and halo. L4D is a great example of why good shooters are best on PC. L4D has gotten FPS of the year over gears 2 and resistence, yet it will be forgotten in "console land" within a month. Is it coincidence that PC gamers will be playing this game for years to come? Simply, the controls just didn't translate well to the console. They even tried to add a 180 degree turn and more auto aim. The reality is that PC FPS games offer maps and level design that just are not possible on consoles (sharp angles). Playing halo 3 or gears 2 and then playing a game of counter-strike source (4 years old) really nails that point home.

Bottom line, if you want to enjoy shooters "the way they are meant to be played" then you should be gaming on the PC. Console shooters are decent but are completely gimped compared to PC (L4D is a perfect example of how an FPS just isn't meant to be played on consoles unless they are gimped and made for the console to start a la Halo 3).

L4D> CS:S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo3, gears, R2, etc

Dave_NBF

I agree wholeheartedly that on a traditional controller, playing a FPS is so much more enjoyable to play on a PC. However, if the Wii could get some of these AAA FPS titles on its console, I would have to somewhat disagree with you that the PC would feel better to play on then the Wii....ESPECIALLY after they release the Wii 1 for 1 motion accessory. none of this has happened as of yet, though, and we can only hope the Conduit brings it big time, so for now I would say that the PC is uncontested.

I think a lot of people (and myself included) feel that when you get into PC gaming, its a way more expensive endeavor then console gaming because you have to update your video card possibly $300 at a time every year. I must admit that I haven't been into PC gaming since the original FEAR, and back then is where I got this perception that I need to drill a hole in my wallet every time the next AAA game comes out. Can you honestly tell me how much Crysis would cost me to play on normal settings? And at that point, does it even look much better then a console anyway?

I'm guessing that the people who prefer FPS console gaming may find that the games look good enough that there is no reason to get into PC FPS's, the expense of getting the same quality of graphics on a PC that a console could do for perceivably much cheaper, and the laziness of just taking something out of the box, plugging it in and then playing it.

[QUOTE="anubis8515"]Because i have a Gaming pc. but i still like the controller more. Is that to hard for you to under stand.Dave_NBF

If you have a "gaming PC" and prefer an FPS due to the controller, then yes it is "too hard for me to understand." Maybe put the controller down and work on spelling, punctuation and grammar?! There is NOTHING superior about a controller Vs a mouse and a keyboard as far as FPS are concerned.

[QUOTE="SOedipus"]I love playing the older shooters on the PC but not the newer ones. I find myself scrambling to push the right key to get something done, even after I configure the controls. Although aiming is a lot easier I just find it more convenient to play it on the consoles, and I would take splitscreen over LAN anytime.DragonfireXZ95

I'd gladly share a screen if it means keeping my opponent close enough to whack them when things go wrong.:P

[QUOTE="pwner372"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

this statement is wrong on so many levels

SOedipus

whats the point in getting a "decent" gaming pc. PC gamers always rave about how they have better graphics on their rigs yet to achieve the significant graphics gap the PC gamers claim you can get, it will cost around there or more and that includes all the issues that PC gaming comes with.

[QUOTE="anubis8515"]Because i have a Gaming pc. but i still like the controller more. Is that to hard for you to under stand.Dave_NBF

If you have a "gaming PC" and prefer an FPS due to the controller, then yes it is "too hard for me to understand." Maybe put the controller down and work on spelling, punctuation and grammar?! There is NOTHING superior about a controller Vs a mouse and a keyboard as far as FPS are concerned.

[QUOTE="pwner372"]lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?ps3_owns_360Wii

this statement is wrong on so many levels

Im not agreeing with either of you, but if its wrong, PROVE its wrong because it honestly isn't self-evident and a lot of people like pwner372 believe this to be fact. So, prove them wrong.

[QUOTE="SOedipus"][QUOTE="pwner372"] please explain who its wrong. not everyone has money flying out there butt.pwner372

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

Well I know why people are gaming on consoles (i do have the big 3) but I find it funny that most gamers are playing FPS, yet fail to have even a "decent" 600-1k PC that can play most FPS. You don't need a beefy PC to play one of the most challenging and skill based FPS's (CS:S) and yet console gamers just talk about gears, socom and halo. L4D is a great example of why good shooters are best on PC. L4D has gotten FPS of the year over gears 2 and resistence, yet it will be forgotten in "console land" within a month. Is it coincidence that PC gamers will be playing this game for years to come? Simply, the controls just didn't translate well to the console. They even tried to add a 180 degree turn and more auto aim. The reality is that PC FPS games offer maps and level design that just are not possible on consoles (sharp angles). Playing halo 3 or gears 2 and then playing a game of counter-strike source (4 years old) really nails that point home.

Bottom line, if you want to enjoy shooters "the way they are meant to be played" then you should be gaming on the PC. Console shooters are decent but are completely gimped compared to PC (L4D is a perfect example of how an FPS just isn't meant to be played on consoles unless they are gimped and made for the console to start a la Halo 3).

L4D> CS:S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo3, gears, R2, etc

kgb1234

I agree wholeheartedly that on a traditional controller, playing a FPS is so much more enjoyable to play on a PC. However, if the Wii could get some of these AAA FPS titles on its console, I would have to somewhat disagree with you that the PC would feel better to play on then the Wii....ESPECIALLY after they release the Wii 1 for 1 motion accessory. none of this has happened as of yet, though, and we can only hope the Conduit brings it big time, so for now I would say that the PC is uncontested.

I think a lot of people (and myself included) feel that when you get into PC gaming, its a way more expensive endeavor then console gaming because you have to update your video card possibly $300 at a time every year. I must admit that I haven't been into PC gaming since the original FEAR, and back then is where I got this perception that I need to drill a hole in my wallet every time the next AAA game comes out. Can you honestly tell me how much Crysis would cost me to play on normal settings? And at that point, does it even look much better then a console anyway?

I'm guessing that the people who prefer FPS console gaming may find that the games look good enough that there is no reason to get into PC FPS's, the expense of getting the same quality of graphics on a PC that a console could do for perceivably much cheaper, and the laziness of just taking something out of the box, plugging it in and then playing it.

the wii-mote is decent but way less sensitive than a good 2000 DPI razor mouse. Wii would be way too inaccurate but is a step in the right direction. I used to think your same thoughts until I bought the wii and played RE on it.

So, most families would have bought a pc right? They need it for work, messaging, internet etc. Lets say that puts us in the range of 400-600 bucks. Now, that same family wants a console. So they buy lets say a 360. That costs 300 dollars. Now for games. Lets say, 3 games, 60 buck each. Then it goes up to $480. Oh, you want to play online too. Add 50 dollars to that, so we are now at 530. Add that 530 to the price of the PC, and that gives us a range of 930-1130. That can get you a heck of a PC. Now, instead of buying a console, you can just use that money to upgrade that PC, or include it in the PC you were going to buy.lettuceman44

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="SOedipus"]I love playing the older shooters on the PC but not the newer ones. I find myself scrambling to push the right key to get something done, even after I configure the controls. Although aiming is a lot easier I just find it more convenient to play it on the consoles, and I would take splitscreen over LAN anytime.SOedipus

[QUOTE="lettuceman44"]So, most families would have bought a pc right? They need it for work, messaging, internet etc. Lets say that puts us in the range of 400-600 bucks. Now, that same family wants a console. So they buy lets say a 360. That costs 300 dollars. Now for games. Lets say, 3 games, 60 buck each. Then it goes up to $480. Oh, you want to play online too. Add 50 dollars to that, so we are now at 530. Add that 530 to the price of the PC, and that gives us a range of 930-1130. That can get you a heck of a PC. Now, instead of buying a console, you can just use that money to upgrade that PC, or include it in the PC you were going to buy.Cherokee_Jack

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[QUOTE="pwner372"]lets see, buy a $1k computer to play games on or buy a $300-$500 console to play the same games. What would the smart choice be for people who cant afford to upgrade the computer ever 2 months?kgb1234

this statement is wrong on so many levels

Im not agreeing with either of you, but if its wrong, PROVE its wrong because it honestly isn't self-evident and a lot of people like pwner372 believe this to be fact. So, prove them wrong.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="lettuceman44"]So, most families would have bought a pc right? They need it for work, messaging, internet etc. Lets say that puts us in the range of 400-600 bucks. Now, that same family wants a console. So they buy lets say a 360. That costs 300 dollars. Now for games. Lets say, 3 games, 60 buck each. Then it goes up to $480. Oh, you want to play online too. Add 50 dollars to that, so we are now at 530. Add that 530 to the price of the PC, and that gives us a range of 930-1130. That can get you a heck of a PC. Now, instead of buying a console, you can just use that money to upgrade that PC, or include it in the PC you were going to buy.lettuceman44

[QUOTE="kgb1234"][QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

Well I know why people are gaming on consoles (i do have the big 3) but I find it funny that most gamers are playing FPS, yet fail to have even a "decent" 600-1k PC that can play most FPS. You don't need a beefy PC to play one of the most challenging and skill based FPS's (CS:S) and yet console gamers just talk about gears, socom and halo. L4D is a great example of why good shooters are best on PC. L4D has gotten FPS of the year over gears 2 and resistence, yet it will be forgotten in "console land" within a month. Is it coincidence that PC gamers will be playing this game for years to come? Simply, the controls just didn't translate well to the console. They even tried to add a 180 degree turn and more auto aim. The reality is that PC FPS games offer maps and level design that just are not possible on consoles (sharp angles). Playing halo 3 or gears 2 and then playing a game of counter-strike source (4 years old) really nails that point home.

Bottom line, if you want to enjoy shooters "the way they are meant to be played" then you should be gaming on the PC. Console shooters are decent but are completely gimped compared to PC (L4D is a perfect example of how an FPS just isn't meant to be played on consoles unless they are gimped and made for the console to start a la Halo 3).

L4D> CS:S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo3, gears, R2, etc

Dave_NBF

I agree wholeheartedly that on a traditional controller, playing a FPS is so much more enjoyable to play on a PC. However, if the Wii could get some of these AAA FPS titles on its console, I would have to somewhat disagree with you that the PC would feel better to play on then the Wii....ESPECIALLY after they release the Wii 1 for 1 motion accessory. none of this has happened as of yet, though, and we can only hope the Conduit brings it big time, so for now I would say that the PC is uncontested.

I think a lot of people (and myself included) feel that when you get into PC gaming, its a way more expensive endeavor then console gaming because you have to update your video card possibly $300 at a time every year. I must admit that I haven't been into PC gaming since the original FEAR, and back then is where I got this perception that I need to drill a hole in my wallet every time the next AAA game comes out. Can you honestly tell me how much Crysis would cost me to play on normal settings? And at that point, does it even look much better then a console anyway?

I'm guessing that the people who prefer FPS console gaming may find that the games look good enough that there is no reason to get into PC FPS's, the expense of getting the same quality of graphics on a PC that a console could do for perceivably much cheaper, and the laziness of just taking something out of the box, plugging it in and then playing it.

the wii-mote is decent but way less sensitive than a good 2000 DPI razor mouse. Wii would be way too inaccurate but is a step in the right direction. I used to think your same thoughts until I bought the wii and played RE on it.

I agree, but you have to factor in the 1 for 1 accessory coming, which will be used in the Conduit, and all ive heard from people who have played it is that they're raving how sensitive and good it is!

[QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] There's no reason to add games to that.Cherokee_Jack

Anyway, so your a Morrowind player huh? Thats great, I lead a TES Fansite.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="lettuceman44"]Why not? So are you saying people buy consoles to not play games?lettuceman44