If Steam is such a great service why is it...

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]And unsurprisingly you just got ripped off by Steam. Its $5.74 on D2D.
http://www.direct2drive.com/9368/product/Buy-Grand-Theft-Auto:-Episodes-from-Liberty-City-Download

Cranler

The majority of the people who bash steam are the ones who have not used steam. Yes for certain games it usually is cheaper to go to your local gamestore to pick up the pc game, but there are various reasons behind that. Valve doesn't set the prices, the publishers do. Retail stores have spent money to purcahse their stock of games and can price them at whatever they see fit. Retail pc games usually don't see as much sales as console games, so a lot of retailers can be eager to move product and make shelf space for the next COD. Everyone who uses steams knows about the steam sales, and how they beat every retailer in pricing. The majority of steam users don't buy games outside of sales. I could go on about how it manages and updates your games, drivers, etc. but this seems to be a problem with pricing.

That New Vegas is $50

but at Target its only $30

And at Walmart its ONLY $20

What the heck is so great about Steam when they cant keep up with retail on things like this?

Kokuro_Kun

What a terrible service every store that sells New Vegas for more than $20 USD is.

/s

Isnt it kind of ironic how New Vegas requires steam account setup?

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

yeah steam prices can be overated . I saw bio shock for 15$ and on steam its 20$ .

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Okay, really? One game? There are a ton of packages in steam that you can save hundreds of dollars with.

xsubtownerx

I don't have to go to a store, I don't have to worry about a disk being lost or scratched, my game is then available to play anywhere I have a net connection, I can back it up to disk for when I don't have a net connection and all of my patches are supplied automatically without the need for me to trawl for updates.

I can't understand why people buy hardcopies of new releases when the benefits of DL from Steam are so huge.

Because publishers choose to price their games like that. Same goes for the whole Euro to GBP problem.skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Because publishers choose to price their games like that. Same goes for the whole Euro to GBP problem.Hexagon_777

I think the problem is that the Euro price and the Pound price are the same yet the exchange rate means it's cheaper in Euros. Could be wrong but that's what i've noticed.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Because publishers choose to price their games like that. Same goes for the whole Euro to GBP problem.1080pOnly

I think the problem is that the Euro price and the Pound price are the same yet the exchange rate means it's cheaper in Euros. Could be wrong but that's what i've noticed.

I don't limit myself to just Steam, I have accounts with other digital distributors - that way you can catch a lot more games on sale.

I got from Steam for 26 bucks a few moths ago.

The majority of the people who bash steam are the ones who have not used steam. Yes for certain games it usually is cheaper to go to your local gamestore to pick up the pc game, but there are various reasons behind that. Valve doesn't set the prices, the publishers do. Retail stores have spent money to purcahse their stock of games and can price them at whatever they see fit. Retail pc games usually don't see as much sales as console games, so a lot of retailers can be eager to move product and make shelf space for the next COD. Everyone who uses steams knows about the steam sales, and how they beat every retailer in pricing. The majority of steam users don't buy games outside of sales. I could go on about how it manages and updates your games, drivers, etc. but this seems to be a problem with pricing.

tutt3r

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Because on Steam, you can get all these games for $40.

At Walmart, you... oh right.

vadicta

That's $2.98 per game on that list with the discount.

Almost every single game on that list is worth more than $3 and some, like Amnesia are worth a lot more than that.

$39 is an amazing price for that $155 collection in my opinion.

You do realize the sale is not just the lower prices below the crossed out prices, which would take the price down from $155 to $77, but another $40 savings on top of that for the bundle.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Because publishers choose to price their games like that. Same goes for the whole Euro to GBP problem.1080pOnly

I think the problem is that the Euro price and the Pound price are the same yet the exchange rate means it's cheaper in Euros. Could be wrong but that's what i've noticed.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Nah, I got a great deal. Would rather pay the little extra to have it on steam. Steam has a lot more features than simply selling games.

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

That New Vegas is $50

but at Target its only $30

And at Walmart its ONLY $20

What the heck is so great about Steam when they cant keep up with retail on things like this?

Cranler

steam is only good for sales

Steam is nice for the sales and deals. I don't buy a ton from them, but I'll get a couple sale games every now and then.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] What are the benefits of having the Episodes on steam?

i5750at4Ghz

Yah that's the beauty of it. You screw up your game with mods, don't re-install the whole thing just verify the integrity and you have a clean base to mod from again :D.

steam is only good for sales

Harisemo

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

steam is only good for sales

Mystic-G

Steam is DD store;)

depends on where you live :P

here where I live I save around 10-20 bucks on any new release I buy through Steam, and thier steam deals are pretty much insane (and they DO tend to have deals on games a few months old ya know ;)

The reason alot of people like the Steam sales can be summed up with "summer sale & christmas sale" the time of year where I buy any game that has been in the "maybe" or "some point" pile for between 5-8 bucks ^^

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

steam is only good for sales

devious742

Steam is DD store;)

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] XBL and PSN is only good for... Hmm... What exactly do they do better than Steam? Hexagon_777

Steam is DD store;)

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="devious742"]:lol::lol:

Steam is DD store;)

devious742

The main benefit of steam is the ability to purchase and download a game instantly. I bought Dragon Age ultimate edition for £24.99 and had it downloaded and ready to play in just over an hour. I could have went to my local store and picked up a copy up if they had stock although this is more hassle and partially why Steam will be more expensive than certain online retailers. If I order Crysis 2 on Amazon for £26.91+ delivery then I have to wait for it to be delivered which may take 1 or 2 days or I could buy it from Steam for £29.99 and have it within an hour.

Steam can be overpriced especially for some older titles compared to the online retailers and this is how they pay for the rest of the Steamworks system, and if it wasnt for this, I think an xbox live style gaming fee would be introduced or a load of 3rd party ads.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

steam is only good for sales

Mystic-G

im talking about steam store

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="devious742"]:lol::lol:

Steam is DD store;)

devious742

by sales i meant holiday sales and stuff

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

steam is only good for sales

Mystic-G

You can't pay $10 for a fable 3 hat on steam.

steam is only good for sales

Harisemo

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

steam is only good for sales

tenaka2

You can't pay $10 for a fable 3 hat on steam.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Because publishers choose to price their games like that. Same goes for the whole Euro to GBP problem.Hexagon_777

Because New Vegas on PC is a completely different experience than on consoles. And would actually would be worth $50.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Because on Steam, you can get all these games for $40.

At Walmart, you... oh right.

Cranler

Because New Vegas on PC is a completely different experience than on consoles. And would actually would be worth $50.foxhound_fox

what odd is that digital cuts out the middleman so even with the services of steam they should still be more competitive

Steam has awesome sales, but the regular prices suck.

Steam also has at least 2 sales a week.

[QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]

People go where the deals are. Steam just happens to have a lot of them. People wouldn't talk about Steam often if they weren't able to get high budget games for $5-$10. It doesn't matter if the sale is for a week or for one day. The fact that the consumer has the chance to pay the cheaper price is the reason for Steam's popularity.

You're going to see competition from both digital and physical retailers. Not all sales are going to be fantastic on Steam. The majority of them just happen to occur on Steam.

Cranler

Whether someone decides to check Steam everyday or not isn't the point. The fact that games like Bioshock 2 or GTAIV Complete go on sale for $5 and $10 (respectively) is why people like to buy their games through Steam and other DD services should their sales be better.

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Some of us have better things to do than check steam every day.

Cranler

It literally takes 15 seconds to see what's on sale on Steam. It's not a task that requires you to pull an all-nighter.

Google > Search for Steam > Click on first result > Look at the spotlight ad on the top-right or check top sellers.

...and you're done for the day. If you frequent these boards also, you will see that some users will post when Steam is having a sale. There isn't really an excuse for missing a sale. If you miss one sale, it will always return in the future one day.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] XBL and PSN are only good for... Hmm... What exactly do they do better than Steam?

Mystic-G

You can't pay $10 for a fable 3 hat on steam.

you think $10 hat is cool? i just bought a friggin' £12 teddy bear for engi on TF2!

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]What high budget games can I get for $5 to $10? It does matter if the sale is for 1 day only. Some of us have better things to do than check steam every day.

Valiant_Rebel

Whether someone decides to check Steam everyday or not isn't the point. The fact that games like Bioshock 2 or GTAIV Complete go on sale for $5 and $10 (respectively) is why people like to buy their games through Steam and other DD services should their sales be better.

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Some of us have better things to do than check steam every day.

Cranler

It literally takes 15 seconds to see what's on sale on Steam. It's not a task that requires you to pull an all-nighter.

Google > Search for Steam > Click on first result > Look at the spotlight ad on the top-right or check top sellers.

...and you're done for the day. If you frequent these boards also, you will see that some users will post when Steam is having a sale. There isn't really an excuse for missing a sale. If you miss one sale, it will always return in the future one day.

So if I decide right now that I want to buy new vegas and dead space 2 i can either get a great deal retail or wait who knows how long for a steam deal. valves goal with the deals are to get you to buy games you didnt plan on buying

Cranler

I'm sure you read the part of my previous post where I said that Steam will not always have the best prices. I said most of the time they would. Other retailers will give out better prices as well. What I said was that Steam usually (as in not always) has the better sale sometimes (where else could one find Bioshock 2 new for $5?).

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You are making it sound like I am saying "Only shop on Steam." I am not. I said "people will go where the deals are" in my original post in this thread. If you can find better deals elsewhere right now, great. Buy it there. I was able to get Dead Space 2 for $20 on Amazon (two weeks after its release) while it was $60 normal on Steam. At the same time, I got Dead Space 1 off Steam for $5 while it was retailing at $20 on Amazon. You go where the deals are without worrying about where you buy it from.

So if I decide right now that I want to buy new vegas and dead space 2 i can either get a great deal retail or wait who knows how long for a steam deal. valves goal with the deals are to get you to buy games you didnt plan on buying

Cranler

Your logic isn't quite sound here. The low prices on NV and Dead Space 2 are still deals that will expire. I could easily flip the argument around using a game that is on sale during Steam now...

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

So if I decide right now that I want to buy new vegas and dead space 2 i can either get a great deal retail or wait who knows how long for a steam deal. valves goal with the deals are to get you to buy games you didnt plan on buying

rpgs_shall_rule

Your logic isn't quite sound here. The low prices on NV and Dead Space 2 are still deals that will expire. I could easily flip the argument around using a game that is on sale during Steam now...

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

So if I decide right now that I want to buy new vegas and dead space 2 i can either get a great deal retail or wait who knows how long for a steam deal. valves goal with the deals are to get you to buy games you didnt plan on buying

Valiant_Rebel

I'm sure you read the part of my previous post where I said that Steam will not always have the best prices. I said most of the time they would. Other retailers will give out better prices as well. What I said was that Steam usually (as in not always) has the better sale sometimes (where else could one find Bioshock 2 new for $5?).

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You are making it sound like I am saying "Only shop on Steam." I am not. I said "people will go where the deals are" in my original post in this thread. If you can find better deals elsewhere right now, great. Buy it there. I was able to get Dead Space 2 for $20 on Amazon (two weeks after its release) while it was $60 normal on Steam. At the same time, I got Dead Space 1 off Steam for $5 while it was retailing at $20 on Amazon. You go where the deals are without worrying about where you buy it from.

That New Vegas is $50

but at Target its only $30

And at Walmart its ONLY $20

What the heck is so great about Steam when they cant keep up with retail on things like this?

Kokuro_Kun