This might happen if Sony wants to avoid high production cost, like they did with the PS3 in the beginning.
I personally think it would be a shame if the PS4 came out without BC. :|
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This might happen if Sony wants to avoid high production cost, like they did with the PS3 in the beginning.
I personally think it would be a shame if the PS4 came out without BC. :|
Sony only dropped PS2 B/Cbecause they were frantically try to chop the cost of manufacture for the PS3 and the emotion engine reputedly cost something like $30 (even the new PS2s are still B/C with the PS1). I will be surprised if the PS4 isn't B/C with its three predecessors, but if it isn't I'll just hold onto my PS3.
I would. I still own a PS2, and a PS3 with backwards compatibility that I still constantly use for both ps1 and ps2 games. just rebeat ICO recently, and going to attempt to beat digital devil saga 1 + 2, nocturne, and persona 3 fes/persona 4 sometime next year. definitely won't be able to beat all of them but I wanna see how far I can get :D
It will probably come with BC as I don't see Sony or MS or any other company moving into another technology anytime soon (red-ray etc). Shouldn't cost too much to incorporate it into the system.
No... they dropped it because they realized they could profit by reselling PS2 games on PSN. Do you think PCs cost more to play games from 2001? Sony was merely making up an excuse to justify it all. It's nothing more true than 4D & 120fps.Sony only dropped PS2 B/Cbecause they were frantically try to chop the cost of manufacture for the PS3 and the emotion engine reputedly cost something like $30 (even the new PS2s are still B/C with the PS1). I will be surprised if the PS4 isn't B/C with its three predecessors, but if it isn't I'll just hold onto my PS3.
CarnageHeart
[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]No... they dropped it because they realized they could profit by reselling PS2 games on PSN. Do you think PCs cost more to play games from 2001? Sony was merely making up an excuse to justify it all. It's nothing more true than 4D & 120fps.Sony only dropped PS2 B/Cbecause they were frantically try to chop the cost of manufacture for the PS3 and the emotion engine reputedly cost something like $30 (even the new PS2s are still B/C with the PS1). I will be surprised if the PS4 isn't B/C with its three predecessors, but if it isn't I'll just hold onto my PS3.
Mystic-G
They dropped it because
1. It costs money to put the hardware in, which increases the cost of the PS3 which was already notoriously high.
2. It costs time and money to emulate the PS2.
3. Most people already have PS2s.
They're still trying to find ways to include it back in, which is why they patented that external box recently.
[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]No... they dropped it because they realized they could profit by reselling PS2 games on PSN. Do you think PCs cost more to play games from 2001? Sony was merely making up an excuse to justify it all. It's nothing more true than 4D & 120fps. But PC microprocessors and graphics cards are designed to be backwards compatible; they share the same instruction sets and application programming interfaces as their predecessors.Sony only dropped PS2 B/Cbecause they were frantically try to chop the cost of manufacture for the PS3 and the emotion engine reputedly cost something like $30 (even the new PS2s are still B/C with the PS1). I will be surprised if the PS4 isn't B/C with its three predecessors, but if it isn't I'll just hold onto my PS3.
Mystic-G
The situation with the PS3 was very different. The PS3 shared little in common with the PS2 at all. Sony achieved hardware-based backwards compatability by including the PS2's Graphics Synthesizer and Emotion Engine. This did add to the total cost of production and served no role whatsoever for the machine other than just playing PS2 games.
No... they dropped it because they realized they could profit by reselling PS2 games on PSN. Do you think PCs cost more to play games from 2001? Sony was merely making up an excuse to justify it all. It's nothing more true than 4D & 120fps. But PC microprocessors and graphics cards are designed to be backwards compatible; they share the same instruction sets and application programming interfaces as their predecessors.[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]
Sony only dropped PS2 B/Cbecause they were frantically try to chop the cost of manufacture for the PS3 and the emotion engine reputedly cost something like $30 (even the new PS2s are still B/C with the PS1). I will be surprised if the PS4 isn't B/C with its three predecessors, but if it isn't I'll just hold onto my PS3.
SakusEnvoy
The situation with the PS3 was very different. The PS3 shared little in common with the PS2 at all. Sony achieved hardware-based backwards compatability by including the PS2's Graphics Synthesizer and Emotion Engine. This did add to the total cost of production and served no role whatsoever for the machine other than just playing PS2 games.
Why couldn't Sony do the same for the PS3 as every other PC hardware manufacturer does in the first place?Pretty much this. When the PS3 lost it's BC I was disappointed but after a while, I didn't care anymore. I hope the PS4 does come with BC though, then I'll be able to sell my PS3 but keep all my games.I'd get it, but I would just wait a while. BC is great justification for early adoption, but, after a year or so, becomes a feature I never use.
Pug-Nasty
[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]But PC microprocessors and graphics cards are designed to be backwards compatible; they share the same instruction sets and application programming interfaces as their predecessors.[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] No... they dropped it because they realized they could profit by reselling PS2 games on PSN. Do you think PCs cost more to play games from 2001? Sony was merely making up an excuse to justify it all. It's nothing more true than 4D & 120fps. Mystic-G
The situation with the PS3 was very different. The PS3 shared little in common with the PS2 at all. Sony achieved hardware-based backwards compatability by including the PS2's Graphics Synthesizer and Emotion Engine. This did add to the total cost of production and served no role whatsoever for the machine other than just playing PS2 games.
Why couldn't Sony do the same for the PS3 as every other PC hardware manufacturer does in the first place?Because they released an $800 system at $600 and proceeded to bleed an inordinate amount of money for several years.
Well, my dream would be the possibility to take the HDD from the PS3 and insert it into the PS4 to continue with all the stuff and full BC. But of corse I'd get it
[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]But PC microprocessors and graphics cards are designed to be backwards compatible; they share the same instruction sets and application programming interfaces as their predecessors.[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] No... they dropped it because they realized they could profit by reselling PS2 games on PSN. Do you think PCs cost more to play games from 2001? Sony was merely making up an excuse to justify it all. It's nothing more true than 4D & 120fps. Mystic-G
The situation with the PS3 was very different. The PS3 shared little in common with the PS2 at all. Sony achieved hardware-based backwards compatability by including the PS2's Graphics Synthesizer and Emotion Engine. This did add to the total cost of production and served no role whatsoever for the machine other than just playing PS2 games.
Why couldn't Sony do the same for the PS3 as every other PC hardware manufacturer does in the first place? Well, maybe if Sony didn't switch the entire architecture for the PS3 they could have. Hopefully in the future they will stick to a Cell-based Power architecture, and continue their relationship with NVidia.I am almost positive the next playstation will be PS and PS2 compatible... I doubt it will be PS3 BCbecause they will still be selling them.
Odds are I will buy it either way, but if SONY is not stupid, they will make all PS4's BC. I think it was a huge problem with PS3 sales.
ps4 with 20 gig hdd seriously if sony and ms pull this hdd sku bs next gen im gonna get extremely annoyed.xbox360isgr8t
Ya, i mean, how dare they give a better deal to people that wait to buy it, this tactic is so shocking and never gets used in any industry!
oh wait...
I don't guess I care about BC this time around since my PS3 isn't old and I'd likely keep it around anyway. I still keep my PS2 connected, too, so no worries. I don't think it would bother me.
This and it will probably cost alot too, Im sure SONY doesnt want to release a 899 US dollar system. Im pretty sure they learned from the PS3 and the PSP Go by nowI am almost positive the next playstation will be PS and PS2 compatible... I doubt it will be PS3 BCbecause they will still be selling them.
FragTycoon
The fact Ps3 lacked Ps2 backwards compatibility (at least the newer models) was a huge turn off for me for buying the system. I have so many PS2 games and my old PS2 was starting to kick the bucket, not to mention I wasn't into having to switch the cables every time just in order to play a damn game. I'd buy a PS4 for sure if it had backwards compatibility but if I have a 10+ ps3 game collection I would expect the PS4 to at least have some type of backwards compatibility.
Backward compatibility is important to me. I'm glad I got one of the last PS3 models with it. I see no reason why I should have to keep a PS2 next to my PS3 if I want to play last gen games. What's the point of keeping/collecting games if you can't play them? If the industryreally wants totake it to Gamestop and the used game business they should support backward compatibility. If the PS4 uses blu-ray just like the PS3 there's really no excuse not to include it.
I would still buy it. If I really wanted to paly PS3 games and PS2 didnt have BC, all I have to do is plug in my PS3. BC isnt nearly as big of a deal as people make it out to be.
i think im gonna skip ps4. i dont really like a single ps3 exclusive this gen. since 3rd parties will be on all systems next gen im gonna just buy 1 system. then maybe when the other 2 get to 100-150 i might choose a second system
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