If the X1 hardware is so crappy, please explain why....

nobody remembers how alan wake graphics were downgraded from the techdemos and it become a linear piece of shit?

pcgamingowns

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:Riverwolf007

Specs aren't meaningless.

hell, the ps3 specs were better than 360s and what did it ever mean?

anything? a tiny difference in looks in a tiny amount of exclusives that were only arguably  better based on the perception of the user? 

what did specs ever do for ps3 multiplats this gen?

is this entire gen not an example of how meaningless specs are and how important other factors are?

so far the xboxone is the only console claiming to do 60fps.

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:Riverwolf007

Specs aren't meaningless.

hell, the ps3 specs were better than 360s and what did it ever mean?

anything? a tiny difference in looks in a tiny amount of exclusives that were only arguably  better based on the perception of the user? 

what did specs ever do for ps3 multiplats this gen?

is this entire gen not an example of how meaningless specs are and how important other factors are?

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n64 was was the last console when nintendo actually cared about making more powerful consoles than the competition.

pcgamingowns

Don't forget the gamecube.  That giant dice was a little beast. 

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

 

Don't forget the gamecube.  That giant dice was a little beast. 

Jag85

Don Mattrick sabotaged the X180, he knew he was jumping ship and stopped caring. Heil68

Of course they wouldn't, they're sheep, a.k.a. Nintendo fanboys and will claim to not care about hardware specs up and down the line. This still doesn't change the fact that the XBONE is both woefully underspecced compared to the PS4 and $100 more expensive.

You're grasping at straws and I think that should be obvious even to you.

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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] original xbox crushed ps2 and gamecube all multiplatform games like splinter cell or ghost recon ran and had better graphics on xbox.navyguy21

Its not crap the multiplat games won't look much different for the Xbox one and PS4 unless the so called cloud tech kick in :roll:

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:Sonysexual1

Probably to save face. Lots of lemmings were ass hurt by the amount of ownage SONY caused.

looks better than beyond 2 souls. 

Its not crap the multiplat games won't look much different for the Xbox one and PS4 unless the so called cloud tech kick in :roll:CroidX

Assuming you're talking about PS4/XBONE and as such are still in touch (somewhat) with reality, the gap is quite large and should be very noticeable with the least bit of care given by developers due to the similar architectures. In fact if anything the PS4 will be the easiest console to develop for this gen followed by the XBONE and then the Wii U which should make the advantage even more apparent.

If you're talking about the Wii U's multiplats looking "not much different" though I'm afraid to say that you're delusional and need to wake up. Even if developers weren't hobbled by the large and insurmountable memory disadvantage (speed and quantity) in the Wii U you're still having to live with the other compromises Nintendo made.

What are those compromises? It's a different architecture, so there is less incentive to learn it compared to the PS4/XBONE, the GPU is much weaker (the basic numbers would suggest 50% weaker than XBONE but it could be worse still), and the CPU as it needs to be backwards compatible with Wii and as such is similar architecturally to the one in the Wii and GameCube is unable to take advantage of a number of the improvements that have been made by IBM to their PowerPC architecture in the last decade.

Nintendo consoles exist primarily to play exclusives. Microsoft consoles exist primarily to play multiplats. With the Xbone you're going to get the worst version of most PC/PS4/Xbone games. Would a higher-specced Wii U be nice? I guess, but the lack of power on the Wii never really bothered me in any first party game.

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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] original xbox crushed ps2 and gamecube all multiplatform games like splinter cell or ghost recon ran and had better graphics on xbox.navyguy21

Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike (GameCube)

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:Riverwolf007

Specs aren't meaningless.

hell, the ps3 specs were better than 360s and what did it ever mean?

anything? a tiny difference in looks in a tiny amount of exclusives that were only arguably better based on the perception of the user?

what did specs ever do for ps3 multiplats this gen?

is this entire gen not an example of how meaningless specs are and how important other factors are?

in the context of your argument, i totally agree.. Once all the dust settles and we have the consoles in our hands, multiplatform games will look virtually identical, platform exclusives will play to the strengths of their respective system and any major differences will likely be very subjective, and the primary differences will fall upon the UI of the consoles themselves and the content/features of their respective online multiplayer ecosystems (PSN vs XBL)..

face it guys, multiplatform games play to the lowest common denominator (for obvious business reasons) and a vast majority of games these days are multiplatform.. So at the end of the day, games like Battlefield 4, MGS5, Final Fantasy XV, Destiny, and more will be developed with the weaker console in mind.. not vice-versa.. why would developers intentionally and openly deliver an "inferior" version of their game to roughly 50% of their potential buyers when both consoles are so even matched in terms of specs?.. it makes no logical sense and (just like last gen) simply wont happen..

Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:RR360DD

Too bad there's no gameplay yet, maybe make a petition or something. :lol:

looks better than beyond 2 souls. 

KarateeeChop

Splinter Cell CT looked better than most launch games on both PS3 and 360, amazing game.

That hardware in the hands of microsoft =/= in the hands of Nintendo.

everyone on this board would be doing backflips if the Wii U had similar specs.

Just picture this for a moment. Nintendo Wii U with 8 core Jaguar X86 64-bit CPU, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1.28 Tflop GPU and 500 GB hard drive. What would next gen Zelda look like? What about Metroid? 

Let's be honest here, if the sheep had such hardware, would they really care that the PS4 is more powerful? 

Xplode_games

Nintendo could have at least put in 4gigs of Ram. 

xhawk27

The Wii U has plenty of RAM.  You can't just chuck RAM at a system and make everything magically better.

everyone on this board would be doing backflips if the Wii U had similar specs.

Just picture this for a moment. Nintendo Wii U with 8 core Jaguar X86 64-bit CPU, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1.28 Tflop GPU and 500 GB hard drive. What would next gen Zelda look like? What about Metroid?

Let's be honest here, if the sheep had such hardware, would they really care that the PS4 is more powerful?

Xplode_games

with those specs, i'd buy a Wii U the instant Zelda and a 3D Mario were released.. and no, not a single sane person would care about PS4 spec comparisons..

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:SchnabbleTab

Too bad there's no gameplay yet, maybe make a petition or something. :lol:

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Don Mattrick sabotaged the X180, he knew he was jumping ship and stopped caring. navyguy21

everyone on this board would be doing backflips if the Wii U had similar specs.

Just picture this for a moment. Nintendo Wii U with 8 core Jaguar X86 64-bit CPU, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1.28 Tflop GPU and 500 GB hard drive. What would next gen Zelda look like? What about Metroid?

Let's be honest here, if the sheep had such hardware, would they really care that the PS4 is more powerful?

Xplode_games

People have wildly different expectations from Nintendo. That should have been obvious after the Wii outsold the vastly more powerful PS3 and 360.

We all know when multiplat games are going to perform better on one console, then that console will receive most of the love. The ideological statement of "graphics don't matter" won't matter at the end.

You really think Nintendo fans care about hardware? Really?charizard1605

Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:RR360DD

[QUOTE="razu2444"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:RR360DD

It was real time brah

dat butthurt :cool:

Dat gameplay.

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[QUOTE="razu2444"] Based on a cgi trailer?ReadingRainbow4

It was real time brah

dat butthurt :cool:

Dat gameplay.

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

It was real time brah

dat butthurt :cool:

danjammer69

Dat gameplay.

Rofl, it really does.

a tiny difference in looks in a tiny amount of exclusives that were only arguably better based on the perception of the user?Riverwolf007

You really think Nintendo fans care about hardware? Really?charizard1605

I'm a Nintendo fan and I care about hardware. It's not as big a deal as the hardware for the other consoles but I was very disappointed at the Wii U's final specs. 

I will still purchase one because that's the only way you can play Nintendo first party games but I really do hope in the future they design their hardware more in line with other next gen hardware. 

in the context of your argument, i totally agree.. Once all the dust settles and we have the consoles in our hands, multiplatform games will look virtually identical, platform exclusives will play to the strengths of their respective system and any major differences will likely be very subjective, and the primary differences will fall upon the UI of the consoles themselves and the content/features of their respective online multiplayer ecosystems (PSN vs XBL)..

face it guys, multiplatform games play to the lowest common denominator (for obvious business reasons) and a vast majority of games these days are multiplatform.. So at the end of the day, games like Battlefield 4, MGS5, Final Fantasy XV, Destiny, and more will be developed with the weaker console in mind.. not vice-versa.. why would developers intentionally and openly deliver an "inferior" version of their game to roughly 50% of their potential buyers when both consoles are so even matched in terms of specs?.. it makes no logical sense and (just like last gen) simply wont happen..

Antwan3K

The PS4 being 50% stronger with an easier architecture to harness is far, FAR from "even matched", you're just making a joke out of yourself now.

Oh and they absolutely WILL deliver inferior versions for XBONE because it's trivial to bump up effects or resolution for the PS4 or have it maintain a higher/more consistent framerate. They would be fools not to do so as other developers will and failing to do that would make their offerings look worse by comparison.

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

in the context of your argument, i totally agree.. Once all the dust settles and we have the consoles in our hands, multiplatform games will look virtually identical, platform exclusives will play to the strengths of their respective system and any major differences will likely be very subjective, and the primary differences will fall upon the UI of the consoles themselves and the content/features of their respective online multiplayer ecosystems (PSN vs XBL)..

face it guys, multiplatform games play to the lowest common denominator (for obvious business reasons) and a vast majority of games these days are multiplatform.. So at the end of the day, games like Battlefield 4, MGS5, Final Fantasy XV, Destiny, and more will be developed with the weaker console in mind.. not vice-versa.. why would developers intentionally and openly deliver an "inferior" version of their game to roughly 50% of their potential buyers when both consoles are so even matched in terms of specs?.. it makes no logical sense and (just like last gen) simply wont happen..

Aidenfury19

The PS4 being 50% stronger with an easier architecture to harness is far, FAR from "even matched", you're just making a joke out of yourself now.

Oh and they absolutely WILL deliver inferior versions for XBONE because it's trivial to bump up effects or resolution for the PS4 or have it maintain a higher/more consistent framerate. They would be fools not to do so as other developers will and failing to do that would make their offerings look worse by comparison.

It's not 50% stronger bias fanboy. The games are all going to look the same, wait and see. the PS4 is already having problem getting games to run at 1080p @30fps. This is why I said, SPEC ARE MEANINGLESS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBJ5Bkukf4 http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/eurogamer-e3-ps4-games-30fps-choppy-kz-has-input-lag.453122949/blackace

If specs are meaningless explain to me where the PC-perfect version of Crysis is for Xbox 360 and if you're really going to try to claim that the 50% figure is incorrect you're going to have to provide a reputable source that says something like that.

Here is a hint, at least when it comes to the GPU: you won't find one.

Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:RR360DD

[QUOTE="razu2444"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:RR360DD

It was real time brah

dat butthurt :cool:

I don't need Wii U to have that hardware to be able to look forward to a more attractive-looking Zelda or Metroid. Wii U is, regardless of how relatively weak it is, still a huge leap from Wii -- which was essentially a supped-up Gamecube. (And this has been my argument all along, really ... it's more about the noticeable graphical leap between past and present consoles than actual specs.)

[QUOTE="razu2444"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Quantum Break is the best looking game at the minute. Its all about the devs, not meaningless specs :cool:RR360DD

It was real time brah

dat butthurt :cool:

... it's more about the noticeable graphical leap between past and present consoles than actual specs.)

REVOLUTIONfreak

everyone on this board would be doing backflips if the Wii U had similar specs.

Just picture this for a moment. Nintendo Wii U with 8 core Jaguar X86 64-bit CPU, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1.28 Tflop GPU and 500 GB hard drive. What would next gen Zelda look like? What about Metroid? 

Let's be honest here, if the sheep had such hardware, would they really care that the PS4 is more powerful?