If Win8 tablets play all PC games and run PC apps, what is the point of Vita ?

I think the biggest problem Vita faces is Windows 8 tablets that will soon be able to play nearly all PC games in a far bigger screen and with various input methods choices

And will run full PC apps too as it seems, making them the absolute handheld gaming and workstation system

What do you think ?

The exclusive games.

Vita has better controls than a touch screen only device.

Win8 tablets won't do what you think they will.

The exclusive games.

lundy86_4

Those are all on PS3

And you cant compare 1-2 exluisve to a 1000+ PC games library

If they allow you to sync or pair up a 360 controller to those tablets, wow that will be awesome. This is another instance of the fact that Sony hasn't been able to get their characters, IPs to be as popular or marketable as Nintendo, Disney have. Nintendo can probably make consoles for another couple of decades so long as they do their best to keep people interested in Mario, Zelda, Pokemon while experimenting and inventing new characters to become popular should any of the big three faulter. Sony hasn't gotten Sackboy, Uncharted, Wipeout or anything to really be 1/5 as popular as some of Nintendo's franchises. If they can do that, for any Playstation hardware, they'll be fine regardless of competition.bonesawisready5

That will definatly happen, win8 will natively support 360 pad, so i think will be easy to setup a wireless one even of not officially supported

They would have to be x86 Windows 8 tablets. And we might see a bunch of PC games work on those tablets but not all. If AMD can release an APU that is small enough to put into a tablet and it is quite powerful, then that would be cool.

But that majority of the Windows 8 tablets will be ARM-based. So no cross-CPU compability.

Win8 tablets won't do what you think they will.

MlauTheDaft

Actually it is confirmed that will do everything a desktop does, in the x86 hardware version

Will run all apps and games, i dont know about DX11 games though

But PC has a infinite game library of games up to DX9 that could play on win8 tablets

Vita has better controls than a touch screen only device.

verbtex

These tablets will support any control method, keyboard/mouse/360 pad etc

Via the dock station, i have already seen a video with keyboard

What do you think ?

loosingENDS

I think you are an idiot.

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Vita has better controls than a touch screen only device.

loosingENDS

These tablets will support any control method, keyboard/mouse/360 pad etc

Via the dock station, i have already seen a video with keyboard

So people argue that the Vita is too bulky, but carring around extra controllers and keyboards in your pocket is okay? :lol:

Those are all on PS3

And you cant compare 1-2 exluisve to a 1000+ PC games library

loosingENDS

Uncharted: Golden Abyss is not on the PS3. Regardless, the Vita has only just been released. No doubt there will be a focus on exclusive games and multiplats that will not be available to tablet owners. At the end of the day, the handhelds will have a library that differentiates them from Windows based tablets.

You can already game on a win 7 tabletHuman-after-all

In win8 tablets you can have a full desktop version of the OS though and all apps compatibility

It will be like a mobile PC really

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Vita has better controls than a touch screen only device.

110million

These tablets will support any control method, keyboard/mouse/360 pad etc

Via the dock station, i have already seen a video with keyboard

So people argue that the Vita is too bulky, but carring around extra controllers and keyboards in your pocket is okay? :lol:

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]You can already game on a win 7 tabletloosingENDS

In win8 tablets you can have a full desktop version of the OS though and all apps compatibility

It will be like a mobile PC really

a mobile PC you say! revolutionary! I bet no one has ever thought about making a PC that is convenient to move around.

The wonders and genius of our age come shining through.

Tablet+Gaming? :lol: Only the master lemming could come up with this stuff.

windows tablets have no buttons and wont be ablet to play window games on pc the hardware is way to weak and is diffrent.

because ipad and tablets are gimmicky piece of crabs

Just go try out a Vita and your questions will be answered. It has all the games, graphics, fun, and controls all in one little package that does actually fit in your pocket. A tight fit, but fits none the less. I mean, if your Windows 8 tablet needs other accessories to actually be competitive, which it does, why not just skip it and get a laptop with gaming capability? If it needs a dock or any other accessories, it's now been pushed out of the portable/mobile device argument.-ArchAngeL-777-

What do you mean has all the games ?

There are zero games i want from Vita right now or coming

While PC has like 100+ games i would like to have mobile

Any ARM based Win8 tablet won't just be able to run PC windows games, as the hardware will not be compatible. It's possible that software could be programmed specifically with some kind of API in mind as opposed to the processors, and that could mitigate that issue, and DirectX is available on Windows Phone as or right now though I'm sure it's different enough on mobile to require a PC game to be reworked to run well with it. But that doesn't bring up the non-x86 issue though, like PC software being ported to the 360, it can be recompiled and reoptimized for a different computing platform.

The only Win8 tablets that will be running typical PC software will be the x86 based tablets with AMD Bobcat or Intel Atom derived architectures. The AMD Bobcat ones have already proved themselves quite capable using Win7, and Win8 will make them so much better, and really leverage the advantages of Bobcat vs ARM. Google Android has been optimized for Bobcat as well, so that's another win for AMD. Bobcat can run older games from early this generation or before quite decently.

While PC has like 100+ games i would like to have mobile

loosingENDS

Out of interest, which ones?

"tablet" .... stopped reading there.

If Im even gonna use a device with no buttons to play games, its gonna be my phone which is a lot more convenient than a picture frame sized thingamabob.

windows tablets have no buttons and wont be ablet to play window games on pc the hardware is way to weak and is diffrent.

dontshackzmii

Everything you said is 100% wrong

win8 tablets already run full win8 desktop and use an extrernal keyboard fine

Also even windows7 phones support DX9 (witcher 2, Crysis 2 etc), so why would new tablets not support such games at lower resolution ?

Of course they will easilyl play all the thousand of older PC games too, infinite game lineup in your hands

personally i see it this way

Android Phones (iphone etc) = Cellphones (calls, texting)

Tablets = On the go 'office' work duties

3DS / PSV - gaming on the go..

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

windows tablets have no buttons and wont be ablet to play window games on pc the hardware is way to weak and is diffrent.

loosingENDS

Everything you said is 100% wrong

win8 tablets already run full win8 desktop and use an extrernal keyboard fine

Also even windows7 phones support DX9 (witcher 2, Crysis 2 etc), so why would new tablets not support such games at lower resolution ?

Of course they will easilyl play all the thousand of older PC games too, infinite game lineup in your hands

yeah it would be so comfy gaming outside on a Tablet with a wireless K+M or a Controller... lol

I'll stick to a PSV or 3DS !!

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

windows tablets have no buttons and wont be ablet to play window games on pc the hardware is way to weak and is diffrent.

loosingENDS

Everything you said is 100% wrong

win8 tablets already run full win8 desktop and use an extrernal keyboard fine

Also even windows7 phones support DX9 (witcher 2, Crysis 2 etc), so why would new tablets not support such games at lower resolution ?

Of course they will easilyl play all the thousand of older PC games too, infinite game lineup in your hands

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

windows tablets have no buttons and wont be ablet to play window games on pc the hardware is way to weak and is diffrent.

loosingENDS

Everything you said is 100% wrong

win8 tablets already run full win8 desktop and use an extrernal keyboard fine

Also even windows7 phones support DX9 (witcher 2, Crysis 2 etc), so why would new tablets not support such games at lower resolution ?

Of course they will easilyl play all the thousand of older PC games too, infinite game lineup in your hands

does not matter if they support dx it wont work. The gpus in tablets are weak as hell. Good luck running "Whitcher 2, crysis 2 ect" And no they dont even have buttons.

I was actually wondering about this myself. How good could the games actually be on there? Probably better than on the iPad, but I would agree that it likely won't run anything you want even with a dock, mouse, and keyboard.-ArchAngeL-777-

The only Win8 tablets that will be running typical PC software will be the x86 based tablets with AMD Bobcat or Intel Atom derived architectures. The AMD Bobcat ones have already proved themselves quite capable using Win7, and Win8 will make them so much better, and really leverage the advantages of Bobcat vs ARM. Google Android has been optimized for Bobcat as well, so that's another win for AMD.PC_Otter

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Just go try out a Vita and your questions will be answered. It has all the games, graphics, fun, and controls all in one little package that does actually fit in your pocket. A tight fit, but fits none the less. I mean, if your Windows 8 tablet needs other accessories to actually be competitive, which it does, why not just skip it and get a laptop with gaming capability? If it needs a dock or any other accessories, it's now been pushed out of the portable/mobile device argument.loosingENDS

What do you mean has all the games ?

There are zero games i want from Vita right now or coming

While PC has like 100+ games i would like to have mobile

.

"tablet" .... stopped reading there.

If Im even gonna use a device with no buttons to play games, its gonna be my phone which is a lot more convenient than a picture frame sized thingamabob.

rasengan2552

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

While PC has like 100+ games i would like to have mobile

lundy86_4

Out of interest, which ones?

Just on top of my head

Might and Magic
Ecstatica
Indiana Jones Last Crusade
Gabriel Knight
Monkey ISland
Daggerfall
Ultima Underworld
Heroes 5-6
Discworld
FF7-8-9
Heroes 3
Kings Quest series
Space Quest
Quest for Glory
Whispered World
Clash of Heroes
Lords of the Realms 2
Arx Fatalis
Morrowind
Jade Empire
Kotor 1-2
BG1-2
Torment
Ultima 7-8
Gothic 1-2
Lands of Lore 1-2-3
The Legacy
Alone in the Dark
Reams of the Haunting
GEars 1
Chtulu Dark Corners of the Earth
Terraria
Witcher
Fable 1-3
Oblivion
Skyrim
Mass Effect

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Just on top of my head

Might and Magic
Ecstatica
Indiana Jones Last Crusade
Gabriel Knight
Monkey ISland
Daggerfall
Ultima Underworld
Heroes 5-6
Discworld
FF9
Heroes 3
Kings Quest series
Space Quest
Quest for Glory
Whispered World
Clash of Heroes
Lords of the Realms 2
Arx Fatalis
Morrowind
Jade Empire
Kotor 1-2
BG1-2
Torment
Ultima 7-8
Gothic 1-2
Lands of Lore 1-2-3
The Legacy
Alone in the Dark
Reams of the Haunting
GEars 1
Chtulu Dark Corners of the Earth
Terraria
Muramasa
Witcher
Fable 1-3
Oblivion
Skyrim
Mass Effect

loosingENDS

Why did you have games in there tht aren't even on the PC, such as Zelda SS? Quick edit. Muramasa is a Wii exclusive and FF9 was never released for the PC.

Some of those games won't even play on the systems unless they're using considerable hardware within the tablets.

I think the biggest problem Vita faces is Windows 8 tablets that will soon be able to play nearly all PC games in a far bigger screen and with various input methods choices

And will run full PC apps too as it seems, making them the absolute handheld gaming and workstation system

What do you think ?

loosingENDS

I can't belive you're such a tool, first the Witcher 2 is better on 360 thread, now this steaming pile of crap. Sweet Zombie Jesus.

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

Win8 tablets won't do what you think they will.

loosingENDS

Actually it is confirmed that will do everything a desktop does, in the x86 hardware version

Will run all apps and games, i dont know about DX11 games though

But PC has a infinite game library of games up to DX9 that could play on win8 tablets

Well, let's wait and see those x86 versions. W8 tablets will have more in common with ICS tablets than gaming PCs and have nowhere near the same kind of power.

I advice you to install VirtualBox or VMware and try out Windows 8 Consumer Preview.

Do you believe that W8 tablets will play all games because of Windows 8?MonsieurX

Of course, it has been confirmed to run everything

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]I was actually wondering about this myself. How good could the games actually be on there? Probably better than on the iPad, but I would agree that it likely won't run anything you want even with a dock, mouse, and keyboard.NamelessPlayer

The only Win8 tablets that will be running typical PC software will be the x86 based tablets with AMD Bobcat or Intel Atom derived architectures. The AMD Bobcat ones have already proved themselves quite capable using Win7, and Win8 will make them so much better, and really leverage the advantages of Bobcat vs ARM. Google Android has been optimized for Bobcat as well, so that's another win for AMD.PC_Otter

The exclusive games.

lundy86_4

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