If Win8 tablets play all PC games and run PC apps, what is the point of Vita ?

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#101 Joedgabe
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

personally i see it this way

Android Phones (iphone etc) = Cellphones (calls, texting)

Tablets = On the go 'office' work duties

3DS / PSV - gaming on the go..

good_sk8er7

Heyyyyyyyyy there you go. Perfect. I have a tablet, laptop, and a galaxy s2. Any gaming that needs to be done is done on either the console or laptop. Games for phones and tablets are really just time killers imo.

Not to mention that win8 tablet will cost around 700-900 dollars. With that amount of money i can go on vacation and still enjoy the benefits of the tablet with lesser expensive things that i can buy with that same amount of money i'll go on vacation with.

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#102 Nonstop-Madness
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Gaming on a Windows 8 tablet will be a step forward but gamers will always want a dedicated device with buttons.
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#103 muscleserge
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I have been saying this for a while, it is true, Phones and tablets will replace portables and consoles, its just a fact, Win8 is speeding up the process. I personally don't like it, but its the trend set by the masses. Hell if I can replace my consoles with a tablet, connect it to my tv and wirelessly connect a controller of choice, than what difference would it make, in fact it would be even better since I would also be able to take my gaming on the go. Like it or not its the trend, I just don't see a reason why consolites are upset over this, plug n play......check controller.......check portability......check non-upgradable hardware........check its basically a console, just smaller and with a screen attached.
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#104 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="good_sk8er7"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

personally i see it this way

Android Phones (iphone etc) = Cellphones (calls, texting)

Tablets = On the go 'office' work duties

3DS / PSV - gaming on the go..

Joedgabe

Heyyyyyyyyy there you go. Perfect. I have a tablet, laptop, and a galaxy s2. Any gaming that needs to be done is done on either the console or laptop. Games for phones and tablets are really just time killers imo.

Not to mention that win8 tablet will cost around 700-900 dollars. With that amount of money i can go on vacation and still enjoy the benefits of the tablet with lesser expensive things that i can buy with that same amount of money i'll go on vacation with.

Win8 tablet will cost around 490 to 900 dollars USD. There's already Acer Iconia W500 with Win8 demo. AMD plans to replace Z-01 with Win8's release.

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#105 ronvalencia
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Gaming on a Windows 8 tablet will be a step forward but gamers will always want a dedicated device with buttons. Nonstop-Madness
The component hardware has to exist first.
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#106 SolidSnake35
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Windows is a sad joke. If the new 360 dashboard is anything to go by, I'm jumping ship and getting a Mac again.
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#107 arto1223
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What is this??? LoosingENDS just made a nice thread about PC gaming???

To answer your question, it is the same reason why I keep my Wii and PS3 around. They have exclusives that are decent.

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#108 LustForSoul
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Exclusives, front and back touch screen. Most importantly, not friggin' big and has actual controls?

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#109 ronvalencia
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Windows is a sad joke. If the new 360 dashboard is anything to go by, I'm jumping ship and getting a Mac again.SolidSnake35
It too bad, Apple will not use AMD Trinity ULV...
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#110 R4gn4r0k
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I see this hasn't been posted

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#111 joel_c17
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]You can already game on a win 7 tablettenaka2

In win8 tablets you can have a full desktop version of the OS though and all apps compatibility

It will be like a mobile PC really

a mobile PC you say! revolutionary! I bet no one has ever thought about making a PC that is convenient to move around.

The wonders and genius of our age come shining through.

I know right! the people who think up these threads should be disqualified from breeding!
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#112 PC_Otter
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Samsung Series 7 slate tablet has Intel Core i5 Processor 2467M (ULV).

Both Intel and AMD will have new CGPU ULV products some time in Q2 2012.

ronvalencia

I'll assume you're saying that it will play certain games. Naturally, price is going to be an issue. Especially when comparing to the Vita, which TC is doing.

Intel doesn't have direct competition in ULV "fat" CGPU segment.

This will change with the arrival of AMD Trinity ULV. AMD plans to displaced Bobcat based APU with Trinity ULV APU.

Bobcat doesn't have a real successor yet, and you can't just replace a 6W part with a 17W one unless AMD has a Trinity related product on the way to replace Bobcat with. Bobcat still has room to grow by shrinking to 28 nm.
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#113 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'll assume you're saying that it will play certain games. Naturally, price is going to be an issue. Especially when comparing to the Vita, which TC is doing.

PC_Otter

Intel doesn't have direct competition in ULV "fat" CGPU segment.

This will change with the arrival of AMD Trinity ULV. AMD plans to displaced Bobcat based APU with Trinity ULV APU.

Bobcat doesn't have a real successor yet, and you can't just replace a 6W part with a 17W one unless AMD has a Trinity related product on the way to replace Bobcat with. Bobcat still has room to grow by shrinking to 28 nm.

Samsung managed to fit a 17 watt SB ULV into 11inch tablet. Notice why AMD aimed for "17 watts" marketing instead of E-350/E-450's "18 watts" i.e. AMD attempting to recycle Intel's work on Ultrabook case designs. Let Intel do the heavy logistics infrastructure work.

AMD (and ODM/OEM partners) can replace 18 watt Bobcat based E-450 APU netbooks with Trinity ULV APU and add a touch screen i.e. low cost tablet convertible for Win8 that can play modern PC games at Xbox 360 levels.

Most AMD bobcat based netbook case designs was recycled from Intel Atom designs i.e. again, let Intel do the heavy logistics infrastructure work.

AMD's sub $500 Trinity ULVs are just recycled E-350/E-450 APU netbooks shells. Premium ULV notebooks would be Mac-Air clones i.e. better case materials.

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#114 JohnF111
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The point of Vista was to get such a bad reputation for stability and bugginess that as soon as MS brought out the next OS that everyone would scramble to it at any cost.
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#115 PC_Otter
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[QUOTE="PC_Otter"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Intel doesn't have direct competition in ULV "fat" CGPU segment.

This will change with the arrival of AMD Trinity ULV. AMD plans to displaced Bobcat based APU with Trinity ULV APU.

ronvalencia

Bobcat doesn't have a real successor yet, and you can't just replace a 6W part with a 17W one unless AMD has a Trinity related product on the way to replace Bobcat with. Bobcat still has room to grow by shrinking to 28 nm.

Samsung managed to fit a 17 watt SB ULV into 11inch tablet. Notice why AMD aimed for "17 watts" instead of E-350/E-450's "18 watts" i.e.AMD attempting torecycle Intel's work on Ultrabook case designs.

AMD (and ODM/OEM partners) can replace 18 watt Bobcat based E-450 APU netbookswith Trinity ULV APU and add a touch screen i.e. low cost tablet convertible for Win8 that can play modern PC games at Xbox 360 levels.

AMD's sub $500 Trinity ULVs are justrecycled E-350/E-450 APU netbooks shells. Premium ULV notebookswould be Mac-Air clones i.e. better case materials.

I'm talking about slate tablets of the type AMD's Z-01 was made for (like your Iconia), not ultrabooks or convertibles.
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#116 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"] Bobcat doesn't have a real successor yet, and you can't just replace a 6W part with a 17W one unless AMD has a Trinity related product on the way to replace Bobcat with. Bobcat still has room to grow by shrinking to 28 nm. PC_Otter

Samsung managed to fit a 17 watt SB ULV into 11inch tablet. Notice why AMD aimed for "17 watts" instead of E-350/E-450's "18 watts" i.e.AMD attempting torecycle Intel's work on Ultrabook case designs.

AMD (and ODM/OEM partners) can replace 18 watt Bobcat based E-450 APU netbookswith Trinity ULV APU and add a touch screen i.e. low cost tablet convertible for Win8 that can play modern PC games at Xbox 360 levels.

AMD's sub $500 Trinity ULVs are justrecycled E-350/E-450 APU netbooks shells. Premium ULV notebookswould be Mac-Air clones i.e. better case materials.

I'm talking about slate tablets of the type AMD's Z-01 was made for (like your Iconia), not ultrabooks or convertibles.

My tablet is a hybrid/convertibles/transformer type i.e. it comes with detachable keyboard+pointer+usb dock+ethernet port device. This is within Apple iPad 2's prices.

The cooling solution in W500 is primitive i.e. AMD designed a better cooling solution for ODMs. It follows the air gap cooling method. Watch for an update on this front.

Samsung's Serise 7 Slate (ULV 17 watts form factor)

ODM Compal's reference Intel Core i-series ULV based tablet.

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#117 tjricardo089
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The exclusive games.

lundy86_4

Plus: analog stick > touch screen

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#118 Pug-Nasty
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Win8 Tablets are going to have a hard time taking off in an industry dominated by Apple that also has a lot of Android support.

The real question is, will anyone buy a Win8 tablet?

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#119 Masenkoe
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I don't for the life of me know why I'm replying to a loosingENDS thread but the answer is simple my friends...

BUTTONS. Forget tablets man

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#120 NamelessPlayer
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Holy crap, he's got an HP TC1100! Or a Compaq TC1000, can't tell from this angle. Why they haven't made another Tablet PC like that after a decade is beyond me...it's quite a brilliant hybrid design. I'd like to see one with modern specs. Even then, though, I doubt it'll make a more practical gaming machine than a pocket-size dedicated gaming portable. [QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]Win8 Tablets are going to have a hard time taking off in an industry dominated by Apple that also has a lot of Android support. The real question is, will anyone buy a Win8 tablet?

People have bought Tablet PCs before, so I'm sure people will keep buying them. However, Win8 with the whole interface clash is just not the way to go. I'm sticking to Win7 on my 2730p unless they can't port over Win8's improved Explorer and Task Manager, and they find a way to keep those while disabling Metro on Win8.
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#121 zarshack
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If they allow you to sync or pair up a 360 controller to those tablets, wow that will be awesome. bonesawisready5
How teh F*** would that be awesome? you are going to hold your control and then what? sit the tablet in your lap and hunch over it? maybe buy a stand of somesort and balance that on your lap? How would that work in any logical/practical way?

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#122 cainetao11
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The exclusive games.

lundy86_4
Agreed. it wont run Uncharted, GoW, KZ or any Sony exclusive (I know this is SW, not company wars, but there are obviously company exclusives in the real world) and that is why I own a Vita. lossingENDS, I know you dont like many of these franchises, but the quality is there. Play games dude, not companies. That's for stocks......
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#123 glez13
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LOL

Good luck playing all those PC games that are relevant here on SW on a tablet. :roll:

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#124 finalfantasy94
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to play vita games and its smaller. Also the controls. I dont wanna play a tablet on the train.

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#125 ronvalencia
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to play vita games and its smaller. Also the controls. I dont wanna play a tablet on the train.

finalfantasy94

Sony Vita is already 7.2 inch wide.

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#126 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Vita has better controls than a touch screen only device.

loosingENDS

These tablets will support any control method, keyboard/mouse/360 pad etc

Via the dock station, i have already seen a video with keyboard

Then why the hell you going against vita with... full PC with keyboard and mouse :p
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#127 xhawk27
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It's not called handheld gaming for nothing.

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#128 ronvalencia
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Win8 Tablets are going to have a hard time taking off in an industry dominated by Apple that also has a lot of Android support.

The real question is, will anyone buy a Win8 tablet?

Pug-Nasty

Intel heading towards tablets via Ultrabooks route.

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#129 anshul89
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If Win8 tablets play all PC games and run PC apps, what is the point of Vita ?

loosingENDS

The same reason your 360 exists, in spite of providing a vastly inferior experience to the PC.

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#130 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Win8 Tablets are going to have a hard time taking off in an industry dominated by Apple that also has a lot of Android support.

The real question is, will anyone buy a Win8 tablet?

ronvalencia

Intel heading towards tablets via Ultrabooks route.

But ultrabook is nothing more then thin laptop, it's PC response to Macbook Air
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lmfao yes!

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#133 Chutebox  Online
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What a stupid question.

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#134 AdrianWerner
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Personally I hope somebody will make something similiar to the canceled Switchblade

Would be great little device to play slightly older pc games.

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#136 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

to play vita games and its smaller. Also the controls. I dont wanna play a tablet on the train.

ronvalencia

Sony Vita is already 7.2 inch wide.

Tablets are bigger comapard to vita.

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#137 Krelian-co
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What a stupid question.

Chutebox

hello there you must be new to loosingends threads.

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#138 themyth01
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Tablets don't have dual analog sticks...
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#139 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Just go try out a Vita and your questions will be answered. It has all the games, graphics, fun, and controls all in one little package that does actually fit in your pocket. A tight fit, but fits none the less. I mean, if your Windows 8 tablet needs other accessories to actually be competitive, which it does, why not just skip it and get a laptop with gaming capability? If it needs a dock or any other accessories, it's now been pushed out of the portable/mobile device argument.loosingENDS

What do you mean has all the games ?

There are zero games i want from Vita right now or coming

While PC has like 100+ games i would like to have mobile

How will you fit a tablet, xbox 360 controller and bunch of cables into your pocket ? See i can pull out my Vita at work or school and look normal playing my games, while if i pulled out a tablet put that somewhere where i can see the screen since i wont be able to hold it and take out a controller to start playing a game i will look retarted and it will be really uncofortable.

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#140 stizz-
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if you want a mobile pc, why not just get a laptop?

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Easily in my top 10 replies of all time.

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#142 Devil-Itachi
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Can't you do the things the Windows 8 tablets will offer already on similar sized devices.
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#143 GiantAssPanda
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

What do you think ?

tenaka2

I think you are an idiot.

I concur.
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#144 xath2305
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Lmao this has to be the most retarded thread I've seen in a very long time!

Tell me OP what do you think is more comfortable to play ON THE GO, like in a train, bus or a plane?

lol

vs

lol2

You wouldn't even be able to place all the crap in most cases (how are you going to use the mouse while riding the bus?) a Laptop will be a hell lot more comfortable.. this whole thread is a waste of space and a pathetic attempt to make the VITA look bad.. Please make sure you take a picture of yourself playing the witcher 2 on your win8 tablet in a crowded bus. I bet if MS would announce a portable console tomorrow you would change your mind again..

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#145 vtoshkatur
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I think the biggest problem Vita faces is Windows 8 tablets that will soon be able to play nearly all PC games in a far bigger screen and with various input methods choices

And will run full PC apps too as it seems, making them the absolute handheld gaming and workstation system

What do you think ?

loosingENDS

Is losingENDS actually praising PC gaming? Did I wake up in a alternate universe?

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#146 menes777
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I think the biggest problem Vita faces is Windows 8 tablets that will soon be able to play nearly all PC games in a far bigger screen and with various input methods choices

And will run full PC apps too as it seems, making them the absolute handheld gaming and workstation system

What do you think ?

vtoshkatur

Is losingENDS actually praising PC gaming? Did I wake up in a alternate universe?

He's not really. He's the type of person that will try to win any argument, even if he contradicts what he says later or before.