If X1 first party going PC, what's the point of getting X1?

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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I just don't get what the selling point of X1 would be, if you can play the first party games on PC. Am I understanding this right, SW? I thought that's what they meant with Windows 10 compatibility. It seems like another mistake by MS in my opinion. What's yours?

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It's up to pubs, and I'd bet Halo and stuff would stay exclusive. Plus cheaper, basically medium high settings for most games, split screen, etc.

BC would have been amazing.

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#3 KBFloYd
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wasnt there already a thread on this shit?

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#4 soulitane
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My PC can't play those games. That wasn't very hard now was it?

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If all upcoming Vita games are also on PS4, what is the point of getting a Vita?

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#6  Edited By remiks00
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Man you're dumb. Easy answer, because some people don't want to game on PC. /thread cow

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@charizard1605 said:

If all upcoming Vita games are also on PS4, what is the point of getting a Vita?

Portability? or do you plan on carrying a tv and ps4 along with you every where you go? good luck finding outlets!

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#8 FoxbatAlpha
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I'll be playing Halo 5 on my phone courtesy of my Xbox One.

How's that for a selling point?

I can speak for some others when I won't be playing these games on PC. Not everyone is looking to play these games on PC as a first resort. A lot of cows and brain dead thinking seems to think this way.

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#9  Edited By remiks00
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@FoxbatAlpha: Honestly dude, I don't even think he's really a gamer. Just another annoying fakeboy on this forum.

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#10  Edited By Extrodinare101
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I really don't like playing on PC, plus I find spending 300 bucks on a console to be more feasible than spending 500$ + on a decent video card plus whatever other components I may need. Also I can gamefly games on consoles instead of buying them so that's another money saver.

One stupid argument I hear is that I can build a gaming PC for 400-600 dollars, problem is this so called affordable gaming PC probably won't be viable in a year from now let alone 2-3 years.

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#11 FoxbatAlpha
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@remiks00: you talking abou Solid? Our TC and unsavior?

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#12  Edited By cantloginnow
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Its a smart move by MS.Sell consoles and games to console gamers and games to PC gamers.

Bu bu bu the true exclusives.

Cows always flip flopping with the metagame ,SW rules,metacritic and the real world.lol.Its like fanboy vertigo.

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#13  Edited By remiks00
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@remiks00: you talking abou Solid? Our TC and unsavior?

He's been called out several times by several others to prove that he's not. But nevertheless, he doesn't. Just another Fakeboy cow on this forum. He'll also pretend that he games on 3ds as well.... shit is hilarious. No proof of course. I'm willing to bet he has an alt account as well. CONSPIRACY! :P

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Halo and Forza, after that Halo and Forza again. PC won't get these =P

LOL

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Here is the logic cows have, and it will equally apply to them.

"If it's not on the Xbox One it's exclusive."

"But it's on the PC right?"

"Yeah, but in the console space it's exclusive."

"Fair enough."

That's the reality folks, it doesn't matter if it's also on the PC, as long as it's not on the direct competing console platform then it may as well be exclusive, they're never going to get it on their console, ever.

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@remiks00 said:

Man you're dumb. Easy answer, because some people don't want to game on PC. /thread cow

Lol yep.

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#17  Edited By FinalFighters
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i doubt the PC will get XB1's heavy hitters like Halo, Gears, Forza. This whole cross-play/Cross-buy thing is probably for Arcade, indie and 2nd party games only.

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This is definitely the last Xbox for MS.

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Just give me Forza H2 on PC.

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#21  Edited By commander
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@SolidGame_basic said:

I just don't get what the selling point of X1 would be, if you can play the first party games on PC. Am I understanding this right, SW? I thought that's what they meant with Windows 10 compatibility. It seems like another mistake by MS in my opinion. What's yours?

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It's a really bad situation. But it's not just the X1 right now. Both the X1 and PS4 get four or less worthwhile retail exclusives a year. WAY too many games have gone over to the PC. It's really killed it for me. I've gone over to the PC and have access to most games there and I hardly game on my console anymore.

On the 360, at first I thought it was fine that the PC shares a few games with consoles, but now pretty much all of them have gone over, it just looks really bad. It's only going to get worse with DX12 (with the easy porting) and Windows 10. All games will multiplat with the X1, for example the next Fight Night, so why wouldn't EA spend a little extra and a couple of weeks or a month porting it to the PC and dump it on Origin or whatever.

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#23  Edited By Shibua
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Does everyone own PC's, I'm beginning to think that's what hermits think

People game where they want be it PC or console, X1 games being on PC will have very little affect on X1 sales

Halo 5 getting released on PC ain't going to get someone to build a gaming rig instead of buying an X1

Releasing X1 games on PC is a plus for MS and gamers, the only people that get annoyed are fanboys or PC fanboys who suddenly think Xbox is pointless now yet they're wanting X1 games on PC or PS4 fanboys that sudden think PS4 is better now because X1 and PC share games which makes them happy because they now can say they have more exclusives on PS4

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#24 Snugenz
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You're assuming that everyone owns a gaming PC and if that's the case, whats the point in owning any console.

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#25 xxyetixx
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@SolidGame_basic: the strategy behind this for MS isn't for the PC games its for the console gamers and devs.

All this does is give MS more ammo when trying to secure a 3rd party exclusive and when they present the windows 10 PC and Xbox one compatible stuff and land a hugh 3rd party exclusive like a Fallout, or bigger it will be a hugh deal and either move X1 consoles or make people get gaming PC's and most will choose the cheaper option.

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#26  Edited By SakusEnvoy
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I'll believe Halo and Gears are coming to PC when I see it. Neither franchise has been on there since 2007, it's been a long drought (not counting side games).

This does provide an opening for Remedy to make a PC port of Quantum Break though, which is a big deal.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I just don't get what the selling point of X1 would be, if you can play the first party games on PC. Am I understanding this right, SW? I thought that's what they meant with Windows 10 compatibility. It seems like another mistake by MS in my opinion. What's yours?

This isn't going to be the games. Xbox One will still have his games.

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#28 Elaisse
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PC does not compete with consoles.

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@Elaisse said:

PC does not compete with consoles.

Yes it does.

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@nyadc said:

Here is the logic cows have, and it will equally apply to them.

"If it's not on the Xbox One it's exclusive."

"But it's on the PC right?"

"Yeah, but in the console space it's exclusive."

"Fair enough."

That's the reality folks, it doesn't matter if it's also on the PC, as long as it's not on the direct competing console platform then it may as well be exclusive, they're never going to get it on their console, ever.

Lems have been pulling that crap even way before Titatfall. I remember during the 360 days with games like The Witcher 2 on PC/Xbox360 for example.

So please don't talk out of your ass acting like only cows try to pull the console exclusive crap.

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#31 Elaisse
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@clyde46: How? they are different demographics.

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My PC can't play those games. That wasn't very hard now was it?

Exactly. On one hand, especially in those "PC has nothing to match The Order visually" threads, we read only a fraction have PCs capable of those games. On this hand its, why buy an X1 if you can play the games on a PC? My laptop couldn't even run Bad Company.

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@Elaisse said:

@clyde46: How? they are different demographics.

They play games don't they?

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#34  Edited By SonySoldier-_-
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@charizard1605 said:

If all upcoming Vita games are also on PS4, what is the point of getting a Vita?

I'm actually surprised charizard would be the first one in this thread to pull the

"deflect the original question by asking a question over the original question as a defense mechanism".

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I tweeted Phil awhile back and he said that Xbox will still have big exclusives. Of course, we'll have to wait till E3 to see if he's telling the truth.

@cainetao11 said:

@soulitane said:

My PC can't play those games. That wasn't very hard now was it?

Exactly. On one hand, especially in those "PC has nothing to match The Order visually" threads, we read only a fraction have PCs capable of those games. On this hand its, why buy an X1 if you can play the games on a PC? My laptop couldn't even run Bad Company.

I still know a ton of people with T61 and R61 Lenovos and I bet you all of them will struggle running Pokemon Puzzle league on an N64 emulator, not even going to mention low settings on sonic generations. The laptop will probably explode. I did find it interesting however a 2009 Dell latitude can run Sonic generations at low settings with almost everything off.

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You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

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@remiks00 said:

Man you're dumb. Easy answer, because some people don't want to game on PC. /thread cow

@Snugenz said:

You're assuming that everyone owns a gaming PC and if that's the case, whats the point in owning any console.

This will be hard concept to grasp by the TC

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@bunchanumbers said:

You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

No other part of the PC make up made commercials to combat Apple saying "I'm a PC".

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#39 Elaisse
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@clyde46: The people who own a pc that out-performs the consoles is probably to small to affect their bottom line. This is probably what MS has come up with and why they port their games to pc and probably a image of unification on all platforms like apple has.

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@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

No other part of the PC make up made commercials to combat Apple saying "I'm a PC".

They don't have to. Apple stopped those commercials a while ago.

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@deadline-zero0 said:
@remiks00 said:

Man you're dumb. Easy answer, because some people don't want to game on PC. /thread cow

This will be hard concept to grasp by the TC

which is odd for TC, since when it comes to PS4 he seems to get the concept:

"even though I could get Metal Gear Solid 5 on PC, I would still rather play it on PS4. My bud was like "why?" And I was like, because MGS is a Playstation franchise."

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/do-you-consider-mgs-a-playstation-franchise-31760322/

Not to mention when he creams his jeans over every late port of an indie game to vita

or an entire thread about how consoles trump PC

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#42  Edited By clyde46
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@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

No other part of the PC make up made commercials to combat Apple saying "I'm a PC".

Apple are a law unto themselves.

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@lostrib said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

This will be hard concept to grasp by the TC

which is odd for TC, since when it comes to PS4 he seems to get the concept:

"even though I could get Metal Gear Solid 5 on PC, I would still rather play it on PS4. My bud was like "why?" And I was like, because MGS is a Playstation franchise."

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/do-you-consider-mgs-a-playstation-franchise-31760322/

Not to mention when he creams his jeans over every late port of an indie game to vita

or an entire thread about how consoles trump PC

Don't worry, we'll be back to PC not being relevant when to comes to "playstation exclusives" like SF5, Dragon's Dogma Online, etc.

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@bunchanumbers said:

@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

No other part of the PC make up made commercials to combat Apple saying "I'm a PC".

They don't have to. Apple stopped those commercials a while ago.

But while apple was using their commercials, it was only MS and the "i'm a PC" commercials.

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@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

No other part of the PC make up made commercials to combat Apple saying "I'm a PC".

They don't have to. Apple stopped those commercials a while ago.

But while apple was using their commercials, it was only MS and the "i'm a PC" commercials.

MS really didn't need to make commercials. They were and are dominating the market. Unless something miraculous happens it will probably stay that way.

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#46 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@Elaisse said:

@clyde46: The people who own a pc that out-performs the consoles is probably to small to affect their bottom line. This is probably what MS has come up with and why they port their games to pc and probably a image of unification on all platforms like apple has.

For a platform that doesn't compete or affect their bottom line, MS, Sony and Nintendo sure seem to very relunctant tin putting IPs they own on PC, where they could make some revenue.

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#47  Edited By cainetao11
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@bunchanumbers said:

@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

@cainetao11 said:

@bunchanumbers said:

You can ask the same thing of the PS4 as well. The only one this question does not apply to would be the Wii U. You can pick either of the twins or PC and Wii U and you are set this generation. MS understands this. Its why they are moving stuff over to their biggest device which is PC. Yes its not 'their' device, but thanks to windows, it kinda is.

No other part of the PC make up made commercials to combat Apple saying "I'm a PC".

They don't have to. Apple stopped those commercials a while ago.

But while apple was using their commercials, it was only MS and the "i'm a PC" commercials.

MS really didn't need to make commercials. They were and are dominating the market. Unless something miraculous happens it will probably stay that way.

Same could be said for Apple. Anyone who is interested in a Mac doesn't need a commercial to sell it to them. Girl I know here works at the Apple store in Soho and says the customers know the product better than we do. I think the point to MS' ad campaign was to mock the ridiculously generic, comb over, white nerd guy as the "PC" in Apple's commercials vs the flash in the pan actor from Jeepers Creepers. In the MS I'm a PC ads, the focus was the diversity of the people saying it, possibly representing the diversity of a PC's make up.

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#48  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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For one thing, I enjoy playing my Xbox One over my PC for the most parts, I made lots of friends on Xbox Community and very few friends I know have PC but not that lot which is why I enjoy gaming on Xbox 360/One, and most of all, the controller is nice.

Edit: Not to mention exclusive games like MCC won't come to PC.

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#49 Elaisse
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@deadline-zero0: Well didnt MS mentioned that his was they were going to be putting their first party on pc? Sony is putting street fighter on pc its a start and probably something that is going to increase.

Now that you bought that up it makes more sense given console gaming is on the way out and they want services such a xbox live and playstation now to be on as many devices as possible in the future.

As for nintendo, they are nintendo nothing else needs to be said.

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#50  Edited By Kjranu
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For people who don't have a decent gaming rig or people who just prefer a simple gaming box?