If Xbox scraps Used Games will you jump ship?

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#51 arkephonic
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There is no possible way that Microsoft would do this unless both Nintendo and Sony did it as well.

Could you imagine the backlash if Microsoft were the only one to implement this feature into their system?

Everyone would buy Sony and Nintendo instead, and Microsoft's system would be a laughing stock. People would probably nickname it the junk box.

Any money that they attempted at regaining through eliminating used games would be completely negated by the sheer amount of people who simply wouldn't buy their system to begin with because of it.

All they would have to do on top of this is make Kinect mandatory on their next system, and they would be lucky to sell 1 million consoles.

Those are the facts.

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#52 Namgis
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In a heart beat. I have no use for a machine that can't play used games. I get a lot of my games from the library before I buy them.

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#53 Shielder7
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There is no possible way that Microsoft would do this unless both Nintendo and Sony did it as well.

Could you imagine the backlash if Microsoft were the only one to implement this feature into their system?

Everyone would buy Sony and Nintendo instead, and Microsoft's system would be a laughing stock. People would probably nickname it the junk box.

Any money that they attempted at regaining through eliminating used games would be completely negated by the sheer amount of people who simply wouldn't buy their system to begin with because of it.

All they would have to do on top of this is make Kinect mandatory on their next system, and they would be lucky to sell 1 million consoles.

Those are the facts.

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#54 hbk7137
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Who cares about used games, I'd jump ship because they've jumped ship on core exclusives and free online.

Xbox brand is d00med.

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lol

So the system that costs money to play online and has no games is outselling the PS3 WORLDWIDE, what does that say about the PS3? If the Xbox 360 is doomed, PS3 is DEAD.

I think it says less about the systems and more about the people that buy them. But it's your money; you want to pay more for something than others are paying and see diminishing returns in exchange for your brand loyalty, that's your problem.
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#55 tagyhag
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In a heart beat. I have no use for a machine that can't play used games. I get a lot of my games from the library before I buy them.

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Your library has used games? That's awesome.
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#56 Namgis
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[QUOTE="Namgis"]

In a heart beat. I have no use for a machine that can't play used games. I get a lot of my games from the library before I buy them.

tagyhag

Your library has used games? That's awesome.

Yes. They carry dozens of titles for each console from this gen and last. They are week long rentals and the membership was free. Great deal :P

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#57 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] Ah, the tried and true "year head start" argument. Let me ask you this, why do sheep not pull up that argument? Oh wait, I know, Its because their system actually sold well, as opposed to rotting with no games for the first 2 years of it's lifecycle. And on second note, the PS3 has NEVER been double the price of the 360. 2006 20gb 360- $399 2006 20gb PS3- $599 thats a difference of 33%, you moron. And this is the biggest gap of the gen, when comparing consoles with similar features. Dont try to thorm me that the Arcade vs the top-tier PS3 BS, not gonna work. Fact is, Sony, and the PS3, lost. The 360 atm does not have many exclusives, but to the average gamer this doesn't matter because there are so may great multiplats. In 2007, there were nowhere near as many good multiplats, and the PS3 suffered. Xbox outsold the PS3 in 2011 Worldwide. The gap grows bigger, not smaller. Sony is bleeding money as they have been since 2005. The Vita is set to be a colossal failure. At this rate, there wont be a PS4. MS, on the other hand, is as rich as ever, and fully ready to launch an amazing next-gen system. It's funny how you cows always bring up this year-head start thing, especially since both the PS1 and PS2 did it. Those systems had some great exclusives that everybody wanteed tough, the PS3? not so much.Plagueless

It's not an argument moron, it's a fact. And it's also a fact that the PS3 sold more in the same timeframe despite being more expensive. Fact, not argument. And I didn't bring up sales, they're pointless, just spreading some facts on lem crazed sales freaks.

They are facts that mean nothing though, you don't get it. No one in the real world is going to say "bu...bu...the PS3 was handicapped!!!!" Once again, why do the sheep not use this argument? Because they don't have to. They don't have to justify why they couldn't outsell the 360, even after 2 gens of not outselling sony, and 1 gen of not outselling MS. I'm just saying that it's hilarious whatching cows pull this argument, because it's the only reason you can think the 360 is outselling the PS3. By that logic, the only reason the PS1 and PS2 outsold the competition is because they launched early. WRONG! It's because the PS1 and PS2 had what gamers want, where as the PS3 doesn't. Don't believe me? Then why has the 360 doubled on the sales of it's predecessor, whereas the PS3 hasn't even made half of it's?

Xbox sales - 33 million

360 sales - 66 million

PS2 sales - 140 million

PS3 sales - 62 million.

Wow bro your a big time moron. "No one in the real world is going to say "bu...bu...the PS3 was handicapped!!!!" NO **** sherlock. And then your dumbass continues talking about sales like they matter. Who the **** is going to say "Geeze, the 360 hasn't been getting any exclusives the last 4 years, the PS3 keeps pumping them out left and right but the 360 is 3million ahead in sales so I'm going to buy a 360! It goes both ways you moron. Sales are meaningless, noone cares. It's about the games and the 360 gave up 4 years ago.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] I have a question for you: What explanation did you have for hating the Xbox prior to 2010?Heil68

it pushes him around in the halls at school and called him hurtful names.

Yea, and it also said. I dropped core, went causal, no games oh and RROD..lol..That hurt man..that cut real deep. I tear my heart open, I sew myself shut My weakness is that I care too much And my scars remind me that the past is real I tear my heart open just to feel

lol, you are so entitled that you expect a 6 year old console to perform and have the same type of releases as a new console.

hey i have an idea lets you and i go to an old folks home and make fun of their track times in the 100 meter dash.

that makes about the same amount of sense right?

lets be a bit more honest here, you guys are not upset that an old ass obsolete console does not deliver because that would just be stupid, you are upset because the 360 exists and was a viable alternative to the ps3.

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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] It's not an argument moron, it's a fact. And it's also a fact that the PS3 sold more in the same timeframe despite being more expensive. Fact, not argument. And I didn't bring up sales, they're pointless, just spreading some facts on lem crazed sales freaks.

Eddie-Vedder

They are facts that mean nothing though, you don't get it. No one in the real world is going to say "bu...bu...the PS3 was handicapped!!!!" Once again, why do the sheep not use this argument? Because they don't have to. They don't have to justify why they couldn't outsell the 360, even after 2 gens of not outselling sony, and 1 gen of not outselling MS. I'm just saying that it's hilarious whatching cows pull this argument, because it's the only reason you can think the 360 is outselling the PS3. By that logic, the only reason the PS1 and PS2 outsold the competition is because they launched early. WRONG! It's because the PS1 and PS2 had what gamers want, where as the PS3 doesn't. Don't believe me? Then why has the 360 doubled on the sales of it's predecessor, whereas the PS3 hasn't even made half of it's?

Xbox sales - 33 million

360 sales - 66 million

PS2 sales - 140 million

PS3 sales - 62 million.

Wow bro your a big time moron. "No one in the real world is going to say "bu...bu...the PS3 was handicapped!!!!" NO **** sherlock. And then your dumbass continues talking about sales like they matter. Who the **** is going to say "Geeze, the 360 hasn't been getting any exclusives the last 4 years, the PS3 keeps pumping them out left and right but the 360 is 3million ahead in sales so I'm going to buy a 360! It goes both ways you moron. Sales are meaningless, noone cares. It's about the games and the 360 gave up 4 years ago.

The thing with him is that he never talks about games at all on here, it's always about sales and how much money MS makes more than Sony. And he isn't even getting paid to do this, I don't understand why. Pretty sad that he has to HYPE and play sales instead of HYPE and play games.

Plus he's easy to defeat using his own logic:

Wii sales-100 million

360 sales-66 million

Using his own logic, it's safe to conclud that the Wii is the best system ever made and better than Xbox because it sold more. Let's do it again:

COD sales-15 million

Gears 3 sales-8 million

Halo Rech sales-9 million

As you can clearly see, COD is the better game as it sold more. Because sales equal quality in Plagueless land.

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#60 theBeorn
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i'd definitely jump ship.
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#61 senses_fail_06
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They've done nothing this gen to convince me to stay with them - this would just be the final nail in the coffin.
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#62 XanderZane
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If Xbox scraps the ability to use Used Games for their next system will it be a deal breaker for you and cause to jump ship to either PS 4, Wii U?

I'll put up a poll later.

Edit: This is assuming PS4 and Wii U can play used games.

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I'm already going to get a PS4 and Wii U eventually, no matter what Microsoft does. So it's not about jumping ship. I'll probably wait and see what happens with the Next Xbox before buying it. See if the policy gets change after Microsoft loses huge amount of sales. lol!! It would be a disaster for M$, that's for sure. I doubt they will do something like that, as it benefits no one.

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#63 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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If games are tied to my account, and I have the ability to download my games from XBL -- would be a worthy trade, a la Steam.
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#64 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]it pushes him around in the halls at school and called him hurtful names.

Riverwolf007

Yea, and it also said. I dropped core, went causal, no games oh and RROD..lol..That hurt man..that cut real deep. I tear my heart open, I sew myself shut My weakness is that I care too much And my scars remind me that the past is real I tear my heart open just to feel

lol, you are so entitled that you expect a 6 year old console to perform and have the same type of releases as a new console.

hey i have an idea lets you and i go to an old folks home and make fun of their track times in the 100 meter dash.

that makes about the same amount of sense right?

lets be a bit more honest here, you guys are not upset that an old ass obsolete console does not deliver because that would just be stupid, you are upset because the 360 exists and was a viable alternative to the ps3.

Naw, I'm upset because I spent $400 and there's no games to play.
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Yea, and it also said. I dropped core, went causal, no games oh and RROD..lol..That hurt man..that cut real deep. I tear my heart open, I sew myself shut My weakness is that I care too much And my scars remind me that the past is real I tear my heart open just to feelHeil68

lol, you are so entitled that you expect a 6 year old console to perform and have the same type of releases as a new console.

hey i have an idea lets you and i go to an old folks home and make fun of their track times in the 100 meter dash.

that makes about the same amount of sense right?

lets be a bit more honest here, you guys are not upset that an old ass obsolete console does not deliver because that would just be stupid, you are upset because the 360 exists and was a viable alternative to the ps3.

Naw, I'm upset because I spent $400 and there's no games to play.

sdsds

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#66 dontshackzmii
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will never get it

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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] It's not an argument moron, it's a fact. And it's also a fact that the PS3 sold more in the same timeframe despite being more expensive. Fact, not argument. And I didn't bring up sales, they're pointless, just spreading some facts on lem crazed sales freaks.

Eddie-Vedder

They are facts that mean nothing though, you don't get it. No one in the real world is going to say "bu...bu...the PS3 was handicapped!!!!" Once again, why do the sheep not use this argument? Because they don't have to. They don't have to justify why they couldn't outsell the 360, even after 2 gens of not outselling sony, and 1 gen of not outselling MS. I'm just saying that it's hilarious whatching cows pull this argument, because it's the only reason you can think the 360 is outselling the PS3. By that logic, the only reason the PS1 and PS2 outsold the competition is because they launched early. WRONG! It's because the PS1 and PS2 had what gamers want, where as the PS3 doesn't. Don't believe me? Then why has the 360 doubled on the sales of it's predecessor, whereas the PS3 hasn't even made half of it's?

Xbox sales - 33 million

360 sales - 66 million

PS2 sales - 140 million

PS3 sales - 62 million.

Wow bro your a big time moron. "No one in the real world is going to say "bu...bu...the PS3 was handicapped!!!!" NO **** sherlock. And then your dumbass continues talking about sales like they matter. Who the **** is going to say "Geeze, the 360 hasn't been getting any exclusives the last 4 years, the PS3 keeps pumping them out left and right but the 360 is 3million ahead in sales so I'm going to buy a 360! It goes both ways you moron. Sales are meaningless, noone cares. It's about the games and the 360 gave up 4 years ago.


Wtf are you talking about ? talking sh*t again ?

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#68 Strutten
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]lol, you are so entitled that you expect a 6 year old console to perform and have the same type of releases as a new console.

hey i have an idea lets you and i go to an old folks home and make fun of their track times in the 100 meter dash.

that makes about the same amount of sense right?

lets be a bit more honest here, you guys are not upset that an old ass obsolete console does not deliver because that would just be stupid, you are upset because the 360 exists and was a viable alternative to the ps3.

Heirren

Naw, I'm upset because I spent $400 and there's no games to play.

sdsds


cow, lems w/e are hilarous on sw DC at its finest.. anyway there is alot more than just kinect you know .. my collection says otherwise thats for sure..

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cow, lems w/e are hilarous on sw DC at its finest.. anyway there is alot more than just kinect you know .. my collection says otherwise thats for sure..

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#70 SpiritOfFire117
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If any system does it, I'd jump ship, UNLESS they can provide extremely cheap prices like Steam or GreenManGaming after some time.tagyhag
Same here.
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#71 xxxLUGZxxx
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I refuse to support a company that would make a decision that will directly lead to the death of a legit marketplace in America's struggling economy.

Honestly, supporting Microsoft if they make this move is simply unpatriotic.

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I've already jumped ship to PC (well, gone back to PC anyway). I'm abit concerned with the path the manufacturers are taking console gaming...
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#73 Blueresident87
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Don't count on this happening with the next MS console, it just doesn't make sense. It would immediately alienate them if other systems don't have the same restrictions.

It doesn't really matter to me because I buy games new or I download them, so I would get the next console if it interests me. This alone would not turn me away from the system.

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#74 spotofun
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Depends on what the majority of my friends buy. It's equal to paying for XBL for me. I don't like paying for it, but I do because that is where my friends are.

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#75 MLBknights58
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Lol hell yes.

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#76 AdjacentLives
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Nope. Only if they scrapped Halo or the game fell very far from it's roots (like 3x that of Reach).

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#77 KC_Hokie
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No. I generally avoid used games now. They hurt the developers.
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#78 delta3074
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yes, without a doubt.
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#79 WreckEm711
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I generally dont buy used games, but I would not even consider the system. Why? Means that GameStop wont accept games for trade-in/cant sell them on ebay since no one would be able to play them. Thats my main way to get new games, so I'd avoid it like the plague.

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#80 WithoutGraceXII
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No but I'd wait to buy the new console until the new Halo is released.
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#81 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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This thread is proof of blind fanboyism.

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I never intended on getting the next Xbox anyways, so I couldn't care less what they do.
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#83 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

If Xbox scraps the ability to use Used Games for their next system will it be a deal breaker for you and cause to jump ship to either PS 4, Wii U?

I'll put up a poll later.

This is assuming PS4 and Wii U can play used games.

sayyy-gaa

IF this happens, and that's a big if, then I wouldn't buy their next system. If all three did it, I would have to go to the dark side, and figure out how to make a gaming PC.

Can you follow instructions well enough to put a model car together?

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#84 AmazonTreeBoa
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I've already jumped ship. Alan wake released on PC I have no reason to a 360 anymore.

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I feel you there. That's why I never bought a 360. Two games aren't enough to get me to buy a system and that's all the 360 has to offer le. It was three games until Alan Wake came to PC.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

I've already jumped ship. Alan wake released on PC I have no reason to a 360 anymore.

AmazonTreeBoa

I feel you there. That's why I never bought a 360. Two games aren't enough to get me to buy a system and that's all the 360 has to offer le. It was three games until Alan Wake came to PC.

What about Kinect?

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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I jumped ship when PSN was hacked and M$ upped the LIVE price.
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Doesn't matter, it'll never happen.
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Yea, and it also said. I dropped core, went causal, no games oh and RROD..lol..That hurt man..that cut real deep. I tear my heart open, I sew myself shut My weakness is that I care too much And my scars remind me that the past is real I tear my heart open just to feelHeil68

lol, you are so entitled that you expect a 6 year old console to perform and have the same type of releases as a new console.

hey i have an idea lets you and i go to an old folks home and make fun of their track times in the 100 meter dash.

that makes about the same amount of sense right?

lets be a bit more honest here, you guys are not upset that an old ass obsolete console does not deliver because that would just be stupid, you are upset because the 360 exists and was a viable alternative to the ps3.

Naw, I'm upset because I spent $400 and there's no games to play.

*laughs* claiming one owns a 360 one would think the first 5 years where the 360 had loads of games and you still complained...
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If this happens, I'll probably avoid the Nextbox. The truth, whether we like it or not, is that this is the way the industry has been heading. It was inevitable, it was going to happen eventually. The pc has been this way for years. It was only a matter of time before the consoles followed suit. I don't buy many used games, but I don't like what the impact of this will be on people that can only be in the hobby because of the used game market.
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#90 arkephonic
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If this happens, I'll probably avoid the Nextbox. The truth, whether we like it or not, is that this is the way the industry has been heading. It was inevitable, it was going to happen eventually. The pc has been this way for years. It was only a matter of time before the consoles followed suit. I don't buy many used games, but I don't like what the impact of this will be on people that can only be in the hobby because of the used game market.Peanut04_basic

The smartest company will be the last to adopt this feature, and they will be rewarded handsomely for it.

I see a company like Nintendo adopting something like this last, if ever, and people will probably buy a lot more Nintendo consoles for that reason alone.

The amount of sales a company would get for not adopting this feature would greatly outweigh the extra profit a company would get for adopting it, I'm guessing something like 10 to 1. The whole idea behind blocking used games would be to get money, but I see nothing but a backlash effect, making people not want to invest money into it in the first place.

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#91 cainetao11
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Yes. I wouldn't game on it. But it's not jumping ship because I own a ps3. I play games. Playing companies is for my stock portfolio.
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#92 mems_1224
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if i cant play rented games then yea, i wont be getting the next xbox
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#93 CaptainAhab13
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Too much consumer anger for this ever to happen. At least, I hope so...
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#94 Zanoh
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I'm jumping ship for the inevitable LIVE fees. Used games will be a bigger no-no.Eponique

I jumped ship long ago. XD

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#95 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Too much consumer anger for this ever to happen. At least, I hope so...CaptainAhab13

Is there though? Developers seem happy. Developers also skimp consumer with on-disc dlc, day one dlc, and online passes/etc. Seems the anger is located on forums like this one, and that people--in reality--put up with it. MW is the number one thing atm, afterall.

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#96 Merex760
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I've already jumped ship. The only time I turn on my 360 is to play games that aren't available on PS3 and PC. Which...isn't many. My 360 is quite the dust collector.
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#97 Peanut04_basic
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[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]Too much consumer anger for this ever to happen. At least, I hope so...Heirren

Is there though? Developers seem happy. Developers also skimp consumer with on-disc dlc, day one dlc, and online passes/etc. Seems the anger is located on forums like this one, and that people--in reality--put up with it. MW is the number one thing atm, afterall.

I agree, as long as people want to play games, they will put up with it. People may get very angry, but I doubt this would push to many people out of the hobby.
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#98 arkephonic
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I've already jumped ship. The only time I turn on my 360 is to play games that aren't available on PS3 and PC. Which...isn't many. My 360 is quite the dust collector. Merex760

I keep a large microfiber cloth on top of my 360, so that way it doesn't collect dust. I leave it unplugged so it doesn't accidently turn on and suffocate itself underneath the cloth. I'm being dead serious, btw. I never play the thing. I have 2 of them, actually. 1 of them is unopened / slim.

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#99 sukraj
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No i'm not going to jump ship i'm sticking with microsoft.

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#100 argetlam00
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I'm done with Microsoft regardless of what they do. Buying the 360 was one of the worst decisions I ever made in my life.