If the Xbox 360 was ahead of the PS3 at the start of the current gen, then in my book it was the winner of HD consoles last gen.
TCHBO
IGN confirms PS3 outsold Xbox360
@that_old_guy said:
@kingtito: it wasn’t after launch...if you mean closely after launch.
It was after it was such a huge deal that it was going to cost like a billion dollars. Way after people had been calling in about it at first.
It wasn't after launch? Was it before launch? 90 day was extended 1 year after launch, 3 year was extended shortly after that.
I guess that somehow invalidates what I said?
@kingtito said:
So MS never fixed the problem in the 11 years the 360 was being sold? So after 2008 no one had a warranty? All the new consoles sold after that year were sold as is? My final repaired 360 was a fat model and it never experienced the RROD or any other error after that and I kept it for at least 4-5 more years before giving it away. Do the math clown
BTW I never said it did. What I said was the warranty was long gone by the time those broke down and trust me it wasn't very long before they did. Money out of pocket yet didn't spend a dime for my 360s. So tell me clown, which is better?
So people spent another 300-400 for another 360 rather than pay 150 or so for repair? BTW clown, MS refunded anyone that paid for repairs during that time.
Well, you'd have to own a 360,PS3 or PS4 to pay for any online services, you don't. I on the other hand don't like playing online with consoles. That is where my PC comes in but at least I could say I've had both PSN and LIVE.
Wrong clown, I had an OG X1 with Kinect(sold to my stepson), X1S for 4K movies(gave to my youngest) and now an X1X, the most powerful console in history. I also had a OG PS4(sold to a friend) and now a PS4 Pro, the 2nd most powerful console ever. It's only hard to imagine if you're a clown that doesn't actually own any current gen consoles.
You mean it sold more AFTER the start of the 8th gen making gen 7 consoles irrelevant? Good to know clown
Except you can't provide a single shred of proof of these said padded numbers. By the same token I could say the PS2 AND PS3 numbers are also padded because those consoles died AFTER the warranties expired and Sony didn't refund or replace any of them for free.
By 2010 that would make those console 5 years old? Or are you saying any console sold didn't include a warranty? Weren't you cows claiming that 4-5 years is an acceptable number for a console to stay in working order. That at that point purchasing a replacement is perfectly fine? So which is it clown?
Who said it did? In 2013 it's irrelevant since that launched the start of gen 8.
Easily fixable? Sure if you wanted to fork out the money to do so, which for the PS3 you had no choice. My 360 repair was free. Free>>>>>>>>>>cost isn't that what cows kept claiming for years regarding the LIVE PSN debate?
Talk about pot calling the kettle black, you don't even own a current gen console yet you champion the PS4 like you invented it....how sad is that
1-All fat model were doom to RROD at one point PERIOD,the newer models came after summer 2010 almost 5 years into the gen,i never say MS didn't fix the problem i told you that those who bought the machine the first years were totally out of warranty when the slim model arrived which did sparked sales of the 360,and in fact sales of the 360 sparked with the slim not only because new people were arriving to it the late adopters but also because a barrage of old users were moving forward from their old or damage fat 360.
In fact my last 360 had a manufacturing date of 2010 and RROD some years ago i even posted it here,the RROD problem was fix with the slim model which came in 2010, all fat models were RROD prom,what MS achieve with the multiple revisions was that the problem didn't show as fast as it did in earlier models.
2-Yes that is what you claim and we don't believe you,just like we don't believe you don't pay for xbox live when you have 3 xbox one.lol
3-No people payed $299 for a new model and slapped their old HDD and those newer model were more reliable and had 3 more year of extra warranty if you payed $150 and your machine broke again down the road you had to pay again,since the fix didn't have 3 year warranty.
4-Hahaha that is funny considering i quoted you claiming live was better than PSN, to know that you most CONSTANTLY pay for both to see,but but but i got 1 free month lol we know you pay and that you claim other wise to not been own by another poster argument.
@kingtito said:
I on the other hand don't like playing online with consoles. That is where my PC comes in but at least I could say I've had both PSN and LIVE.
@kingtito said:
I don't need to provide proof, we all know it's the shittier service compared to Live or anything available on PC. You want to play def, dumb and blind, be my guest.
How the fu** do you know live is better when you don't constantly play on both service?
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/lets-settle-this-once-and-for-all-sw-who-here-actu-33435703/?page=4
A certainly lemming told me that you have to experience something in a daily basis to form an opinion..
I wonder who was that...lol Oh it was you but for claiming that XBL is better and that PSN Is shitty all you need is paying once right?
lol Yeah that is what you say about graphics that you had your PC for it, yet you were quoted here using graphics as reason to buy an xbox one X when you claimed clearly that consoles were just for exclusives,so you see your argument are made to order so yeah either you pay for live and you are lying or you simply don't have any console or PC.
5-NO that is a completely edited version of what you claimed ALREADY..lol
6-I could care less if the PS4 make the PS3 irrelevant,the PS2 sold 156 million units, 56 millions were sold after November 2005 when the 360 was launch.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/123760/article.html
Fact ^^ your argument is irrelevant,when all is say and done consoles are accounted until the very last one sold,by your pathetic argument the PS2 stopped selling at 100 million because the 360 came in 2005 same year the PS2 hit 100 millions.
7-Oh i don't need to the incredible surge the slim model got after it launched says it all,on a time were MS was shifting to Kinect tell the story,or you think that people all of the sudden felt and urge to buy a 360. lol
8-Or you don't comprehend or you are playing stupid,i am sure is the latter.
RROD didn't stop until the slim model arrived,by the time the slim model arrived all units purchase in summer 2007 and before were out of warranty and all those bought in the latter half of 2007 had just 6 months when the slim model arrived.
The point isn't that some units were 5 years old,if a console lasted that long that was ok,but many were not 5 years old they were 3 2 and half some 4 years and some very small % close to 5 years.
Which is my point since you want to argue that there were no re bought units because of the 3 year warranty when in reality by the time the slim model arrived millions of 360 were out of warranty which would have surely prompt a slim re bought.
9-NO your argument was irrelevant since the PS2 sold 156 millions not 100 millions because of the 360,when all units are accounted for the PS3 sold more period.
10-That is funny i payed $30 for my PS3 layer eye and i change it my self,much cheaper than my second 360.
11-Please don't talk about people champion things there are endless thread here were you champion xbox live over PSN yet you claim to not pay for any.
So yeah nice bunny talking about ears.
@getyeryayasout said:
@TheEroica said:
The 360 was best console of gen 7.... And it wasn't even close.
The 360 was the best console for the first half of gen 7, PS3 was thrashing it from '09 forward. Kinect was the beginning of the end of Xbox catering to the "hardcore" gamer.
@Heil68 this guy knows what happened.
Did you forget about Move aka copy of Wii-motes. LOL Only two games from Sony TLOU and Uncharted 2 during that period. The 360 had the best variety of games.
@xhawk27:
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/01/10/figures-show-ps3-has-finally-outsold-the-360/
The PS3 outsold the xbox360 worldwide January 2013 or earlier.
Or if you want to go by this link: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/. Then it was May 2013 PS3 beat xbox360.
PS4/Xbone came out November 2013.
Either way, By your definition, PS3 won.
Tell your lemming friends to quit being ignorant. The PS3 won last gen before the PS4/Xbone came out. Fact.
@ajstyles said:
@xhawk27:
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/01/10/figures-show-ps3-has-finally-outsold-the-360/
The PS3 outsold the xbox360 worldwide January 2013 or earlier.
Or if you want to go by this link: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/. Then it was May 2013 PS3 beat xbox360.
PS4/Xbone came out November 2013.
Either way, By your definition, PS3 won.
Tell your lemming friends to quit being ignorant. The PS3 won last gen before the PS4/Xbone came out. Fact.
No it didn't. Last chart was end of 2013 showing the PS3 was about even with the 360. So your facts are wrong, so stop acting salty and face that you came in third.
@kingtito: it only invalidates what you said if you can’t read English hence not knowing what I wrote.
@tormentos said:
1-All fat model were doom to RROD at one point PERIOD,the newer models came after summer 2010 almost 5 years into the gen,i never say MS didn't fix the problem i told you that those who bought the machine the first years were totally out of warranty when the slim model arrived which did sparked sales of the 360,and in fact sales of the 360 sparked with the slim not only because new people were arriving to it the late adopters but also because a barrage of old users were moving forward from their old or damage fat 360.
In fact my last 360 had a manufacturing date of 2010 and RROD some years ago i even posted it here,the RROD problem was fix with the slim model which came in 2010, all fat models were RROD prom,what MS achieve with the multiple revisions was that the problem didn't show as fast as it did in earlier models.
2-Yes that is what you claim and we don't believe you,just like we don't believe you don't pay for xbox live when you have 3 xbox one.lol
3-No people payed $299 for a new model and slapped their old HDD and those newer model were more reliable and had 3 more year of extra warranty if you payed $150 and your machine broke again down the road you had to pay again,since the fix didn't have 3 year warranty.
4-Hahaha that is funny considering i quoted you claiming live was better than PSN, to know that you most CONSTANTLY pay for both to see,but but but i got 1 free month lol we know you pay and that you claim other wise to not been own by another poster argument.
@kingtito said:
I on the other hand don't like playing online with consoles. That is where my PC comes in but at least I could say I've had both PSN and LIVE.
@kingtito said:
I don't need to provide proof, we all know it's the shittier service compared to Live or anything available on PC. You want to play def, dumb and blind, be my guest.
How the fu** do you know live is better when you don't constantly play on both service?
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/lets-settle-this-once-and-for-all-sw-who-here-actu-33435703/?page=4
A certainly lemming told me that you have to experience something in a daily basis to form an opinion..
I wonder who was that...lol Oh it was you but for claiming that XBL is better and that PSN Is shitty all you need is paying once right?
lol Yeah that is what you say about graphics that you had your PC for it, yet you were quoted here using graphics as reason to buy an xbox one X when you claimed clearly that consoles were just for exclusives,so you see your argument are made to order so yeah either you pay for live and you are lying or you simply don't have any console or PC.
5-NO that is a completely edited version of what you claimed ALREADY..lol
6-I could care less if the PS4 make the PS3 irrelevant,the PS2 sold 156 million units, 56 millions were sold after November 2005 when the 360 was launch.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/123760/article.html
Fact ^^ your argument is irrelevant,when all is say and done consoles are accounted until the very last one sold,by your pathetic argument the PS2 stopped selling at 100 million because the 360 came in 2005 same year the PS2 hit 100 millions.
7-Oh i don't need to the incredible surge the slim model got after it launched says it all,on a time were MS was shifting to Kinect tell the story,or you think that people all of the sudden felt and urge to buy a 360. lol
8-Or you don't comprehend or you are playing stupid,i am sure is the latter.
RROD didn't stop until the slim model arrived,by the time the slim model arrived all units purchase in summer 2007 and before were out of warranty and all those bought in the latter half of 2007 had just 6 months when the slim model arrived.
The point isn't that some units were 5 years old,if a console lasted that long that was ok,but many were not 5 years old they were 3 2 and half some 4 years and some very small % close to 5 years.
Which is my point since you want to argue that there were no re bought units because of the 3 year warranty when in reality by the time the slim model arrived millions of 360 were out of warranty which would have surely prompt a slim re bought.
9-NO your argument was irrelevant since the PS2 sold 156 millions not 100 millions because of the 360,when all units are accounted for the PS3 sold more period.
10-That is funny i payed $30 for my PS3 layer eye and i change it my self,much cheaper than my second 360.
11-Please don't talk about people champion things there are endless thread here were you champion xbox live over PSN yet you claim to not pay for any.
So yeah nice bunny talking about ears.
So it went from roughly 50% to 100%? So my OG 360 after receiving it for the 3rd time didn't RROD or E74 one me and I kept it for years. Was that a figment of my imagination?
Liar, you never owned a 360 especially the way you talked about them. Your hate is/was legendary so no way in hell you owned one
You don't believe me clown but I don't really care if you do or don't. I've provided my tags, have you? Didn't think so.
I own 3 X1s? Hmm that a case of your horrific reading comprehension again?
So they'd rather pay twice as much for a new model than pay for a repair OR warranty it? Hmmm special kind of stupid?
But it is and was for the entirety of gen 7. I have experience with both but I'm hoping you don't need me to explain how unless you're THAT dumb.
So to make a comparison I need to play on both services constantly? So having free live for a year and using PSN wasn't enough? Hmm new one to me
Exactly, need experience which I've explained multiple times I have with LIVE and PSN. It really sucks you lack any and all reading comprehension skills.
Absolutely for any console exclusive which was stated but I understand, you don't actually understand anything you read.
Geez your reading comprehension is horrendous. No where did I say sales stop at the end of the gen. I said it's irrelevant at that point because, you know, it's last gen. The focus is then moved to the new gen but quote me saying all sales stop once new gen starts. Yeah didn't think so clown
Yes and those consoles had a warranty sooo ummmm yeah
You lack the skills to replace the laser on your PS3, wait you didn't own a PS3. Nice try clown
You champion a system you don't own clown, you've been doing it since the PS3 days. Yeah I'm going to call it for what it is, you're a clown that doesn't own a current gen console and that history goes back to gen 7
@ajstyles said:
@TheEroica: PS3 has the superior library of games. It’s a fact PS3 has better games. PS3 won. 360 fanboys are just ignorant because they didn’t have a PS3 until later.
I had a 360 and PS3 both on day 1 and PS3 murdered 360.
How is an objective opinion a fact? You might as proclaim YOUR favorite movie as being the greatest movie of all time...fact. You cows will continue to be the clowns of SWs
@kingtito said:
@vfighter said:
@kingtito: No only a little over half had problems, which is insane. The ps3 wasn't even close to that bad. I see you're trying to word things to narrow the gap, but the 360 leaps and bounds worse then the ps3 with having system killing problems.
Have any numbers to back that up? I'm not saying it was anywhere near but what I am saying is that when people did, and there were a lot, it was out of warranty and had to come out of pocket.
It was worse but warranty>>>>>no warranty and by the time the PS3s started breaking, they were out of warranty.
This is the stupidest argument you can make and is the reason why i consider your argument to be totally hypocritical.
1- You say that if the PS3 get damage and didn't have warranty it had to come from your own pocket the repair,from where in hell would come the money that you will pay if your 360 was out of warranty?
See what i did there the 360 had 3 year warranty vs the PS3 1 year sure the 360 one was 3 times as big,but the fail rate was more than 5 times bigger,the problem was so bad that even when your console was repair you could suffer RROD again in less than a year hell many people complained about their 360 not lasting a weak after been send to them.
You would not get that with the PS3 in anyway i change my PS3 laser and still working to this day and that was several years ago.
There is no warranty vs no warranty argument here,because the PS3 did had warranty and wasn't even close fail rate wise to the 360.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54
54% and that was been generous i am sure.
Sites likes IGN use to claim that if the fail rate was depending on the units they have to work with the fail rate would be 100% since not a single 360 they had to review games was working all RROD at one point.
By the way in august 2009 from which that link is from there were already several million xbox 360 without warranty each and ever unit from launch 2005 to august 2006 the very worse were out of warranty by august 2009.
Also the fix was not as expensive as RROD was,for me it sure wasn't.
@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
@vfighter said:
@kingtito: No only a little over half had problems, which is insane. The ps3 wasn't even close to that bad. I see you're trying to word things to narrow the gap, but the 360 leaps and bounds worse then the ps3 with having system killing problems.
Have any numbers to back that up? I'm not saying it was anywhere near but what I am saying is that when people did, and there were a lot, it was out of warranty and had to come out of pocket.
It was worse but warranty>>>>>no warranty and by the time the PS3s started breaking, they were out of warranty.
This is the stupidest argument you can make and is the reason why i consider your argument to be totally hypocritical.
1- You say that if the PS3 get damage and didn't have warranty it had to come from your own pocket the repair,from where in hell would come the money that you will pay if your 360 was out of warranty?
See what i did there the 360 had 3 year warranty vs the PS3 1 year sure the 360 one was 3 times as big,but the fail rate was more than 5 times bigger,the problem was so bad that even when your console was repair you could suffer RROD again in less than a year hell many people complained about their 360 not lasting a weak after been send to them.
You would not get that with the PS3 in anyway i change my PS3 laser and still working to this day and that was several years ago.
There is no warranty vs no warranty argument here,because the PS3 did had warranty and wasn't even close fail rate wise to the 360.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54
54% and that was been generous i am sure.
Sites likes IGN use to claim that if the fail rate was depending on the units they have to work with the fail rate would be 100% since not a single 360 they had to review games was working all RROD at one point.
By the way in august 2009 from which that link is from there were already several million xbox 360 without warranty each and ever unit from launch 2005 to august 2006 the very worse were out of warranty by august 2009.
Also the fix was not as expensive as RROD was,for me it sure wasn't.
How could that be when you can't even comprehend any argument anyone makes? I mean your reading comprehension skills are THAT bad, case in point, you actually believe I own e X1s right now even though I explained several times. So sad
My 360 had a warranty and a rather long one at that. Exactly why I never had to pay a dime when I repaired my 360 multiple times...oh that means I had my OG 360 repaired more than once, not that I own multiple 360...yes your reading comprehension is that bad
So paying for a repair>>>>not paying? Is that what you're saying? You can't be serious.....my 360 repaired multiple times....ZERO fees, my PS2 DRE, purchased a new one, PS3 laser died, paid 90 for repair. Hmmm I'd go with the free repair every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Any repair for the 360 was around 150. It didn't matter if it was RROD or something else but....MS refunded those that paid and extended the warranty. Sony do that for my PS3, PS2 or even the PS1 with it's infamous power supply issues? Don't think so
@xhawk27 said:
If the Xbox 360 was ahead of the PS3 at the start of the current gen, then in my book it was the winner of HD consoles last gen.
TCHBO
Actually both were virtually tied at 80 million when this gen started.
But generations are never counted until the next platform comes,all consoles numbers are until the very END.
By the way nice spin the whole HD consoles to try and pretend the wii didn't existed and beat the 360 as well.lol
@StormyJoe said:
@tormentos: LOL. Whatever, dude. Keep drinking the Sony Kool-Aid.
I honestly don't know what is funnier: that you defend sales numbers of the PS3, or that you actually think that most of the 360 sales came from "rebuys".
I didn't say most 360 sales came from re buys.
@kingtito said:
@vfighter said:
@kingtito: Yet you're the one trying desperately to spin the 360s failure rate as a positive lol, that's so cute of you.
Are you actually reading what I've been saying or you take el tormented reading comprehension skills over? What I've been saying is that even though the 360 failure was far more severe when the consoles broke you could get it repaired under warranty or get refunded if you paid out of pocket while Sony's consoles broke AFTER the warranty costing it's consumers money. Did Sony refund anyone's money? Did they extend the warranty?
You cows claimed the RROD inflated sales numbers without proof that it actually did. I'm claiming the fact that PS3s broke AFTER warranty and forced people to buy new ones could also inflate sales if you're going to stick with the RROD theory. My argument has never been about which was worse. IMO the PS2 and PS3 failures were worse because I experienced them while also experiencing the 360 failures. 1 difference, I spent money on my PSs while I spent zero on my 360 repairs.
Dude stop saying that shit the xbox 360 damn warranty wasn't eternal it was 3 damn years,in 2009 the dam fail rate was more than 50% by 2009 millions of people who owned a 360 were without warranty so re buys did happen,trying to imply that people didn't re buy 360 is a joke i don't know a damn person who owned a 360 and didn't at least pay for 2, and had to endure several RROD or E74 problems before running out of warranty and buying a new one.
Denying that RROD sparked re buys when MS didn't even cover E74 until 2009 is a damn joke and show how blind biased and totally skewed opinion is on this,i know for sure many buy a damn PS3 because its unit broke after years of use,but damn i never seen such a blind faction denying something so documented as RROD.
MS didn't even deny the 50+% fail rate when confronted in 2009.
You know what the xbox one started several times faster than the xbox 360 did,in fact MS shipped 3.9 million units by december 2013 which trounce the xbox 360 sales for the first 6 months probably,yet the xbox one has fall so behind the xbox 360 is not even funny.
The last numbers are claiming 41 million units that is some 15 millions behind the xbox 360 i wonder why,if the xbox one has sold faster.
Oh yeah the xbox one doesn't have a 50% fail rate so there is no sales sparks like the ones the 360 enjoying 5 years after launch.
@kingtito said:
So it went from roughly 50% to 100%? So my OG 360 after receiving it for the 3rd time didn't RROD or E74 one me and I kept it for years. Was that a figment of my imagination?
Liar, you never owned a 360 especially the way you talked about them. Your hate is/was legendary so no way in hell you owned one
You don't believe me clown but I don't really care if you do or don't. I've provided my tags, have you? Didn't think so.
I own 3 X1s? Hmm that a case of your horrific reading comprehension again?
So they'd rather pay twice as much for a new model than pay for a repair OR warranty it? Hmmm special kind of stupid?
But it is and was for the entirety of gen 7. I have experience with both but I'm hoping you don't need me to explain how unless you're THAT dumb.
So to make a comparison I need to play on both services constantly? So having free live for a year and using PSN wasn't enough? Hmm new one to me
Exactly, need experience which I've explained multiple times I have with LIVE and PSN. It really sucks you lack any and all reading comprehension skills.
Absolutely for any console exclusive which was stated but I understand, you don't actually understand anything you read.
Geez your reading comprehension is horrendous. No where did I say sales stop at the end of the gen. I said it's irrelevant at that point because, you know, it's last gen. The focus is then moved to the new gen but quote me saying all sales stop once new gen starts. Yeah didn't think so clown
Yes and those consoles had a warranty sooo ummmm yeah
You lack the skills to replace the laser on your PS3, wait you didn't own a PS3. Nice try clown
You champion a system you don't own clown, you've been doing it since the PS3 days. Yeah I'm going to call it for what it is, you're a clown that doesn't own a current gen console and that history goes back to gen 7
Most of your arguments are figments of your imagination.
The fact that you refuse like a total moron to see that i owned a 360 basically kill any argument you have, you have been TOLD here that i did owned a 360 and you still want to ignore it several old lemmings here know i do,just because i defend the PS3 doesn't mean the 360 wasn't a great gaming machine,in fact it runs circles around the shitty xbox one for sure they aren't even comparable.
@tormentos said:
Dude stop saying that shit the xbox 360 damn warranty wasn't eternal it was 3 damn years,in 2009 the dam fail rate was more than 50% by 2009 millions of people who owned a 360 were without warranty so re buys did happen,trying to imply that people didn't re buy 360 is a joke i don't know a damn person who owned a 360 and didn't at least pay for 2, and had to endure several RROD or E74 problems before running out of warranty and buying a new one.
Denying that RROD sparked re buys when MS didn't even cover E74 until 2009 is a damn joke and show how blind biased and totally skewed opinion is on this,i know for sure many buy a damn PS3 because its unit broke after years of use,but damn i never seen such a blind faction denying something so documented as RROD.
MS didn't even deny the 50+% fail rate when confronted in 2009.
You know what the xbox one started several times faster than the xbox 360 did,in fact MS shipped 3.9 million units by december 2013 which trounce the xbox 360 sales for the first 6 months probably,yet the xbox one has fall so behind the xbox 360 is not even funny.
The last numbers are claiming 41 million units that is some 15 millions behind the xbox 360 i wonder why,if the xbox one has sold faster.
Oh yeah the xbox one doesn't have a 50% fail rate so there is no sales sparks like the ones the 360 enjoying 5 years after launch.
@kingtito said:
So it went from roughly 50% to 100%? So my OG 360 after receiving it for the 3rd time didn't RROD or E74 one me and I kept it for years. Was that a figment of my imagination?
Liar, you never owned a 360 especially the way you talked about them. Your hate is/was legendary so no way in hell you owned one
You don't believe me clown but I don't really care if you do or don't. I've provided my tags, have you? Didn't think so.
I own 3 X1s? Hmm that a case of your horrific reading comprehension again?
So they'd rather pay twice as much for a new model than pay for a repair OR warranty it? Hmmm special kind of stupid?
But it is and was for the entirety of gen 7. I have experience with both but I'm hoping you don't need me to explain how unless you're THAT dumb.
So to make a comparison I need to play on both services constantly? So having free live for a year and using PSN wasn't enough? Hmm new one to me
Exactly, need experience which I've explained multiple times I have with LIVE and PSN. It really sucks you lack any and all reading comprehension skills.
Absolutely for any console exclusive which was stated but I understand, you don't actually understand anything you read.
Geez your reading comprehension is horrendous. No where did I say sales stop at the end of the gen. I said it's irrelevant at that point because, you know, it's last gen. The focus is then moved to the new gen but quote me saying all sales stop once new gen starts. Yeah didn't think so clown
Yes and those consoles had a warranty sooo ummmm yeah
You lack the skills to replace the laser on your PS3, wait you didn't own a PS3. Nice try clown
You champion a system you don't own clown, you've been doing it since the PS3 days. Yeah I'm going to call it for what it is, you're a clown that doesn't own a current gen console and that history goes back to gen 7
Most of your arguments are figments of your imagination.
The fact that you refuse like a total moron to see that i owned a 360 basically kill any argument you have, you have been TOLD here that i did owned a 360 and you still want to ignore it several old lemmings here know i do,just because i defend the PS3 doesn't mean the 360 wasn't a great gaming machine,in fact it runs circles around the shitty xbox one for sure they aren't even comparable.
More than long enough to cover issues with it. A lot longer than what Sony did.
Show proof it did. You're the clown claiming something without proof of said sales
So, is the 50% failure rate in question? Oh that's right you're now claiming it's 100%.
Yep, reading comprehension problems confirmed
But you didn't own a 360. All one had to do is read your comments every single day slamming the 360 like it came over to your house, didn't flush your toilet and got your cat pregnant. There is no way in hell you owned a 360. Share your gamertag to prove the games you've played on your 360
@kingtito said:
More than long enough to cover issues with it. A lot longer than what Sony did.
Show proof it did. You're the clown claiming something without proof of said sales
So, is the 50% failure rate in question? Oh that's right you're now claiming it's 100%.
Yep, reading comprehension problems confirmed
But you didn't own a 360. All one had to do is read your comments every single day slamming the 360 like it came over to your house, didn't flush your toilet and got your cat pregnant. There is no way in hell you owned a 360. Share your gamertag to prove the games you've played on your 360
Not even close especially considering that even YOU went through 2 RROD and send the unit several times.
You don't get it by 2009 millions of people were without warranty and the fail rate was more than 50% that mean from every 1 million sold more than half a million were failing.
Error E 74
Ive had my xbox 360 for about a year and a half now and it has worked great until just a couple of weeks ago...when i turn my xbox on now all it shows is the bottom right ring light flashing red and E 74 appears on the screen. I looked it up and was told that it was a problem with the a/v cable, but i tried other a/v cables that belong to my friend and it still doesnt work. i figured that maybe that it was the a/v component inside the xbox i.e. the chip. i no longer have a warranty on my xbox so microsoft will not help. does anyone have any advice for me? is there a way i could acquire another chip and replace it? thanks for any help
http://www.fixya.com/support/t156013-error_e_74#
This ^^ is from 2007 E74 wasn't cover until April 2009.
Nice bunny i see you still looking at my ears, what the hell you do here all the time? Slam the PS4 well i guess you don't own one.
You are so hypocrite and a 2 face joke of a poster that is not even funny.
@Coolyfett said:
Everyone knows HISTORICALLY the PlayStation 3 sold more units than the Xbox 360. There really should not be pages on pages of discussion about it FACT. A company must support their product from the beginning to end.
Maybe, just maybe people are discussing it because its not a fact, but if you have a credible link stating this fact speak now.
@i_p_daily said:
@Coolyfett said:
Everyone knows HISTORICALLY the PlayStation 3 sold more units than the Xbox 360. There really should not be pages on pages of discussion about it FACT. A company must support their product from the beginning to end.
Maybe, just maybe people are discussing it because its not a fact, but if you have a credible link stating this fact speak now.
It is a fact.
The problem here is lemmings such as your self that want to pretend that since November 2013 not a single PS3 or 360 was sold.
Fact the PS3 outsold the xbox 360 yearly world wide almost every year.
Fact that is how the PS3 was able to close the 10 million advantage the 360 had.
Fact both were at 80 million by the end of 2013.
Fact the PS3 continued to outsell the 360 for several years more world wide.
So yeah it is a Fact.
Holy shyte, is this what SW has come to these days? That generation ended how long ago? There really isn’t anything worth coming here for anymore
@tormentos said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Coolyfett said:
Everyone knows HISTORICALLY the PlayStation 3 sold more units than the Xbox 360. There really should not be pages on pages of discussion about it FACT. A company must support their product from the beginning to end.
Maybe, just maybe people are discussing it because its not a fact, but if you have a credible link stating this fact speak now.
It is a fact.
The problem here is lemmings such as your self that want to pretend that since November 2013 not a single PS3 or 360 was sold.
Fact the PS3 outsold the xbox 360 yearly world wide almost every year.
Fact that is how the PS3 was able to close the 10 million advantage the 360 had.
Fact both were at 80 million by the end of 2013.
Fact the PS3 continued to outsell the 360 for several years more world wide.
So yeah it is a Fact.
If IGN one of if not the biggest gaming site cannot state facts, then its far from a fact.
In the end this is funny as cows like yourself are losing your shit over shit that happened 5yrs ago lol.
Remember a cow started this thread and cows such as yourself have been shitting in it ever since.
I have never argued that one has sold more than the other as I don't care, but cows do, and i'm here having fun with it.
@tormentos: You talk about RROD and people just buying new 360s all the time! You even say as much in the same post when you replied to someone else. News flash: for your argument to be true, the Xbox 360 would have had the highest attach rate in the history of video games.
@StormyJoe said:
@tormentos: You talk about RROD and people just buying new 360s all the time! You even say as much in the same post when you replied to someone else. News flash: for your argument to be true, the Xbox 360 would have had the highest attach rate in the history of video games.
Dude even if 10% of the user base is rebuy units that still is millions of consoles,the console at one point had a 54% fail rate,i am sure it was higher you know why?
Because every fat model was destine to fail no matter the improvement made over the years my last one was one of the very last fat models with a manufacturing date of 2010,those were the very last one before the slime which were suppose to be very reliable and mine RROD several years ago.
What MS achieved with newer models was that the RROD problem didn't surface as fast as it did,so in the early days a 2006 model could have lasted you a year a year and half or even 6 months,the latter model would last you 2 or 2 and half,my 2010 model lasted more than 3 but RROD any way.
Let me put it this way by the time the slim model arrived which was the one without RROD,the xbox 360 had sold like half its number it had like 43 million sold, all fat models would RROD at one point period,by the time the slim arrived several million people were in fact without warranty because the 3 years they had were up.
So it was fix the fat model and have it fail again latter on,or buy a new shinny slim model,and in fact the slim model sold the other half of xbox 360.
In fact i think the xbox one numbers are falling behind the xbox 360 one because people didn't have to re buy xbox one because they are reliable.
So some 40+ millions people owned the worse model even if a quart of those buying another machine that still is several millions,i don't know a single friend of family who owned a 360 and didn't pay from its own pocked from at least 2 and i have friend who payed for 3.
Is that or sell your games cheap and move to another console.
@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
More than long enough to cover issues with it. A lot longer than what Sony did.
Show proof it did. You're the clown claiming something without proof of said sales
So, is the 50% failure rate in question? Oh that's right you're now claiming it's 100%.
Yep, reading comprehension problems confirmed
But you didn't own a 360. All one had to do is read your comments every single day slamming the 360 like it came over to your house, didn't flush your toilet and got your cat pregnant. There is no way in hell you owned a 360. Share your gamertag to prove the games you've played on your 360
Not even close especially considering that even YOU went through 2 RROD and send the unit several times.
You don't get it by 2009 millions of people were without warranty and the fail rate was more than 50% that mean from every 1 million sold more than half a million were failing.
Error E 74
Ive had my xbox 360 for about a year and a half now and it has worked great until just a couple of weeks ago...when i turn my xbox on now all it shows is the bottom right ring light flashing red and E 74 appears on the screen. I looked it up and was told that it was a problem with the a/v cable, but i tried other a/v cables that belong to my friend and it still doesnt work. i figured that maybe that it was the a/v component inside the xbox i.e. the chip. i no longer have a warranty on my xbox so microsoft will not help. does anyone have any advice for me? is there a way i could acquire another chip and replace it? thanks for any help
http://www.fixya.com/support/t156013-error_e_74#
This ^^ is from 2007 E74 wasn't cover until April 2009.
Nice bunny i see you still looking at my ears, what the hell you do here all the time? Slam the PS4 well i guess you don't own one.
You are so hypocrite and a 2 face joke of a poster that is not even funny.
That was well within the warranty period and after I received my last one I didn't have a single issue with it for years. Yep, more than enough
You don't get it, according to you ALL launch 360s failed so they would of had to be warrantied or repaired. Any console purchased still came with a warranty clown so anyone purchasing after 2009 was covered. BTW I received my last 360 repair just before Halo 3 launched. So my console lasted from 2007 till the start of the next gen.
Show a post of me just slamming the PS4? Sony, sure but PS4? I've owned 2 and proved it with my gamertag...have you? Didn't think so clown
@StormyJoe said:
@tormentos: I LOL'd at your reply. XB1 sales are worse than the 360 because the game library is weak.
The cow is strong in this one...
The xbox one sold 3.2 in 1 month and a week and shipped 3.9 millions in the same time frame,at $500 dollars from $100 to $200 more than the 360 on launch and basically double the 360 sales wise on launch.
In fact the xbox one on launch outsold the xbox 360 on its first 6 months.
Explain that the xbox one didn't have much game wise on launch.
Fact is the slim xbox one and even the X models have fail to spark sales,and i and you can thank RROD for that.
Is not a secret that the xbox 360 sold millions of re buy units,only blind fanboys hide under the shallow excuse of show me the proof when they them self bought several and deny it.lol
@kingtito said:
That was well within the warranty period and after I received my last one I didn't have a single issue with it for years. Yep, more than enough
You don't get it, according to you ALL launch 360s failed so they would of had to be warrantied or repaired. Any console purchased still came with a warranty clown so anyone purchasing after 2009 was covered. BTW I received my last 360 repair just before Halo 3 launched. So my console lasted from 2007 till the start of the next gen.
Show a post of me just slamming the PS4? Sony, sure but PS4? I've owned 2 and proved it with my gamertag...have you? Didn't think so clown
Thats FOR YOU you represent 0.000000000000001 of the xbox 360 user base.
And worse you are a liar who move the goal post to favor your argument and you got expose already by me on another thread on this same topic.
@kingtito said:
So the original 1 year warranty didn't count in 2005? The 1st console ever to NOT come with a warranty.
BTW I had my 360 replaced several times and guess what? I didn't have to pay for a single one nor did I run out and buy another 360 even though it would have been worth it since it was heads and tails better than the PS3
Irrefutable proof that you didn't own a 360 in 2005 since the warranty was 3 months then it was extended to 1 year on late 2006 and i told you so.
@kingtito said:
"even though they were under warranty" hahaahah and you called me dumb. Damn son isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Oh you realize the 360's had the original 1 year warranty and then was extended 3 more years after so your "i had to buy 3 more" is BS OR you're an idiot...given your posting history and the fact your head is almost always up Sony's ass, I'd say it's the later.
Hahahah facts? Like you bought 3 even though MS had a warranty for the 360? Ummm yeah sure son you speak "facts" Kellyanne Conway type of "facts".
Warranties do run out but not before MS resolved the issue 4 years after launch. Care to try again son?
Again more lies look how you say it had 1 year then it was extended 3 MORE years which would make a total of 4 year.
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ps3-or-xbox-360-looking-back-now-what-do-you-think-33441638/?page=2
I know this because i was there i owned a 360 in 2005 and i remember how many people were mad all over the internet because their shinny new machines were failing.
Microsoft Extends Xbox 360 Warranty to One Year
December 22, 2006 |
REDMOND, Wash. — Dec. 22, 2006 — In a move to benefit customers, Microsoft Corp. announced today that it will change the Xbox 360™ warranty from 90 days to one year from the date of purchase in the United States and Canada. Microsoft extended the warranty in these territories to be consistent with the standard one-year Xbox 360 warranty that is available throughout most of the world. The news is reason to celebrate this holiday season; it applies to both would-be purchasers and those who already have Xbox 360 and are still within their first year of ownership.
Effective today, the one-year warranty is now the standard for the Xbox 360 console. Customers who experience hardware issues with their Xbox 360 within one year of purchase can have their consoles repaired at no cost. Moreover, the new warranty policy is retroactive, so consumers who may have already paid for an out-of-warranty Xbox 360 repair within one year of purchase will be eligible for reimbursement of their console repair charges.
https://news.microsoft.com/2006/12/22/microsoft-extends-xbox-360-warranty-to-one-year/
Yo know why i consider this the best part of all this because that show 2 important things.
1-You are a compulsive liar who invent arguments to win debates.
2-If you were a launch unit owner of November 2005 you were not even cover by the 1 year extension because you already had 13 months by the time this warranty kicked in and it clearly stated that you have to be within 1 year.
But your lies don't stop there.
@kingtito said:
That's funny cause I warrantied my launch 360 6 months after launch. It was still under warranty and didn't cost me a dime plus I got it back in 7 days from the time I called it in. That's longer than 90 days and shorter than the time you claimed they extended the warranty. Guess I'm just that lucky? Even still why would anyone run out and buy 3 360's at 300-400 each than let MS repair or replace for a much less fee?
Why are you even talking about the 360? You've never owned one or play any of it's games. I don't even think you own a PS4 but I do believe you borrowed a friends.
7 days el tormented. I know because I experienced 2 RRODs and have 3 360s do YOU have any experience? Do you own any consoles? I seriously doubt that
There are other lies here as well, see look how you claim you warrantied your xbox 360 6 month after launch,that means that in May 2006 so supposedly warrantied your xbox 360 free of charge that is a lie,MS was charging like $140 dollars for repairs back then.
According to a copy of the complaint seen by Ars Technica, Kevin Ray was a happy Xbox 360 player until November 1 of this year, at which point he updated his console with the Fall 2006 Update. After installation, his system was unusable, and Microsoft has allegedly refused to repair it unless Ray pays them $140. The class action, filed in a Washington federal court, seeks more than $5 million in damages and free repair of all Xbox 360s damaged by the update.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/12/8381/
Any repair outside of warranty was $140 Which is why MS refunded those who were on warranty still and payed for repairs,you are a liar and there is no way in hell that MS fixed your unit for free while it charge everyone else the evidence is clear you didn't own a 360 on launch.
@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
That was well within the warranty period and after I received my last one I didn't have a single issue with it for years. Yep, more than enough
You don't get it, according to you ALL launch 360s failed so they would of had to be warrantied or repaired. Any console purchased still came with a warranty clown so anyone purchasing after 2009 was covered. BTW I received my last 360 repair just before Halo 3 launched. So my console lasted from 2007 till the start of the next gen.
Show a post of me just slamming the PS4? Sony, sure but PS4? I've owned 2 and proved it with my gamertag...have you? Didn't think so clown
Thats FOR YOU you represent 0.000000000000001 of the xbox 360 user base.
And worse you are a liar who move the goal post to favor your argument and you got expose already by me on another thread on this same topic.
@kingtito said:
So the original 1 year warranty didn't count in 2005? The 1st console ever to NOT come with a warranty.
BTW I had my 360 replaced several times and guess what? I didn't have to pay for a single one nor did I run out and buy another 360 even though it would have been worth it since it was heads and tails better than the PS3
Irrefutable proof that you didn't own a 360 in 2005 since the warranty was 3 months then it was extended to 1 year on late 2006 and i told you so.
@kingtito said:
"even though they were under warranty" hahaahah and you called me dumb. Damn son isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Oh you realize the 360's had the original 1 year warranty and then was extended 3 more years after so your "i had to buy 3 more" is BS OR you're an idiot...given your posting history and the fact your head is almost always up Sony's ass, I'd say it's the later.
Hahahah facts? Like you bought 3 even though MS had a warranty for the 360? Ummm yeah sure son you speak "facts" Kellyanne Conway type of "facts".
Warranties do run out but not before MS resolved the issue 4 years after launch. Care to try again son?
Again more lies look how you say it had 1 year then it was extended 3 MORE years which would make a total of 4 year.
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ps3-or-xbox-360-looking-back-now-what-do-you-think-33441638/?page=2
I know this because i was there i owned a 360 in 2005 and i remember how many people were mad all over the internet because their shinny new machines were failing.
Microsoft Extends Xbox 360 Warranty to One Year
December 22, 2006 |
REDMOND, Wash. — Dec. 22, 2006 — In a move to benefit customers, Microsoft Corp. announced today that it will change the Xbox 360™ warranty from 90 days to one year from the date of purchase in the United States and Canada. Microsoft extended the warranty in these territories to be consistent with the standard one-year Xbox 360 warranty that is available throughout most of the world. The news is reason to celebrate this holiday season; it applies to both would-be purchasers and those who already have Xbox 360 and are still within their first year of ownership.
Effective today, the one-year warranty is now the standard for the Xbox 360 console. Customers who experience hardware issues with their Xbox 360 within one year of purchase can have their consoles repaired at no cost. Moreover, the new warranty policy is retroactive, so consumers who may have already paid for an out-of-warranty Xbox 360 repair within one year of purchase will be eligible for reimbursement of their console repair charges.
https://news.microsoft.com/2006/12/22/microsoft-extends-xbox-360-warranty-to-one-year/
Yo know why i consider this the best part of all this because that show 2 important things.
1-You are a compulsive liar who invent arguments to win debates.
2-If you were a launch unit owner of November 2005 you were not even cover by the 1 year extension because you already had 13 months by the time this warranty kicked in and it clearly stated that you have to be within 1 year.
But your lies don't stop there.
@kingtito said:
That's funny cause I warrantied my launch 360 6 months after launch. It was still under warranty and didn't cost me a dime plus I got it back in 7 days from the time I called it in. That's longer than 90 days and shorter than the time you claimed they extended the warranty. Guess I'm just that lucky? Even still why would anyone run out and buy 3 360's at 300-400 each than let MS repair or replace for a much less fee?
Why are you even talking about the 360? You've never owned one or play any of it's games. I don't even think you own a PS4 but I do believe you borrowed a friends.
7 days el tormented. I know because I experienced 2 RRODs and have 3 360s do YOU have any experience? Do you own any consoles? I seriously doubt that
There are other lies here as well, see look how you claim you warrantied your xbox 360 6 month after launch,that means that in May 2006 so supposedly warrantied your xbox 360 free of charge that is a lie,MS was charging like $140 dollars for repairs back then.
According to a copy of the complaint seen by Ars Technica, Kevin Ray was a happy Xbox 360 player until November 1 of this year, at which point he updated his console with the Fall 2006 Update. After installation, his system was unusable, and Microsoft has allegedly refused to repair it unless Ray pays them $140. The class action, filed in a Washington federal court, seeks more than $5 million in damages and free repair of all Xbox 360s damaged by the update.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/12/8381/
Any repair outside of warranty was $140 Which is why MS refunded those who were on warranty still and payed for repairs,you are a liar and there is no way in hell that MS fixed your unit for free while it charge everyone else the evidence is clear you didn't own a 360 on launch.
If it worked for me then I'm sure it was fine for others as well. I at least represent the 360 user base while you don't since you never owned one
Oh yeah and what did I lie about clown?
I didn't own a 360 in 05? That's news to me. Guess I didn't stay out all night in the Target parking lot securing the 3rd spot in line to get one. Figment of my imagination I guess
No you didn't. You never owned a 360 and we all know it. I seem to recall you begging someone in the 360 forums for a pic of one with your name on it.
So again, what did I lie about? My warranty repairs? The fact my final repair had zero issues for the remainder of the gen? Go ahead tell me what I lied about clown
Wrong clown, all launch 360s were covered under the warranty extension. You'd know that if you actually had 1 but you didn't.
So I'm guessing when i warrantied my OG launch 360 6 months after purchasing it, it was a figment of my imagination? Wow perhaps my memory is as bad as your reading comprehension skills? Nah, my memory is perfectly fine but your comprehension skills....not so much
Ahhh so not paying a dime AND receiving my 360 back in 7 days only 6 months after it launched was another figment of my imagination? Could be your reading comprehension skills at it again. So sad that you frequent a forum and can't understand half of what you read. Sucks to be you
@kingtito said:
If it worked for me then I'm sure it was fine for others as well. I at least represent the 360 user base while you don't since you never owned one
Oh yeah and what did I lie about clown?
I didn't own a 360 in 05? That's news to me. Guess I didn't stay out all night in the Target parking lot securing the 3rd spot in line to get one. Figment of my imagination I guess
No you didn't. You never owned a 360 and we all know it. I seem to recall you begging someone in the 360 forums for a pic of one with your name on it.
So again, what did I lie about? My warranty repairs? The fact my final repair had zero issues for the remainder of the gen? Go ahead tell me what I lied about clown
Wrong clown, all launch 360s were covered under the warranty extension. You'd know that if you actually had 1 but you didn't.
So I'm guessing when i warrantied my OG launch 360 6 months after purchasing it, it was a figment of my imagination? Wow perhaps my memory is as bad as your reading comprehension skills? Nah, my memory is perfectly fine but your comprehension skills....not so much
Ahhh so not paying a dime AND receiving my 360 back in 7 days only 6 months after it launched was another figment of my imagination? Could be your reading comprehension skills at it again. So sad that you frequent a forum and can't understand half of what you read. Sucks to be you
Microsoft Extends Xbox 360 Warranty to One Year
December 22, 2006 |
REDMOND, Wash. — Dec. 22, 2006 — In a move to benefit customers, Microsoft Corp. announced today that it will change the Xbox 360™ warranty from 90 days to one year from the date of purchase in the United States and Canada. Microsoft extended the warranty in these territories to be consistent with the standard one-year Xbox 360 warranty that is available throughout most of the world. The news is reason to celebrate this holiday season; it applies to both would-be purchasers and those who already have Xbox 360 and are still within their first year of ownership.
Effective today, the one-year warranty is now the standard for the Xbox 360 console. Customers who experience hardware issues with their Xbox 360 within one year of purchase can have their consoles repaired at no cost. Moreover, the new warranty policy is retroactive, so consumers who may have already paid for an out-of-warranty Xbox 360 repair within one year of purchase will be eligible for reimbursement of their console repair charges.
https://news.microsoft.com/2006/12/22/microsoft-extends-xbox-360-warranty-to-one-year/
@kingtito said:
That's funny cause I warrantied my launch 360 6 months after launch. It was still under warranty and didn't cost me a dime plus I got it back in 7 days from the time I called it in. That's longer than 90 days and shorter than the time you claimed they extended the warranty. Guess I'm just that lucky? Even still why would anyone run out and buy 3 360's at 300-400 each than let MS repair or replace for a much less fee?
Why are you even talking about the 360? You've never owned one or play any of it's games. I don't even think you own a PS4 but I do believe you borrowed a friends.
7 days el tormented. I know because I experienced 2 RRODs and have 3 360s do YOU have any experience? Do you own any consoles? I seriously doubt that
Kingtito the lemming who got his 360 repair free while no other person could 3 month after his warranty expire..
No actually what sucks is that you have to lie to try to win an argument.
The xbox 360 warranty in 2005 wasn't 1 year was 3 months and no one was getting its unit fix for free period MS was charging $140 and they refunded the money to those who pay when they extended. :)
@Steppy_76 said:
@tormentos: so should I use a 2019 link to prove the 360 warranty was one year in 2005? Or would that be a stupid thing to do?
Again i had a link from sony it self and you FALSELY claim the PS2 DRE problem was as bad as RROD so you have NOTHING.
I on the other hand backed up what i claimed.
@Steppy_76 said:
@tormentos: so you proved the ps2 warranty was always a year long? I also did not say the dre was as bad as rrod...I said it was much closer than what is portrayed. You then claimed dre's were "normal".
No i had a link from sony them self that say so you posted info that contradicted sony link, the warranty apparently was different from US to EU.
But then again you never EVERRRR proved that DRE was even CLOSE RROD.
Certainly sony didn't spent 1,15 billions fixing that shit,in fact they agree to settle a lawsuit and move move like nothing happen.
Dude you claimed DRE problems started months after the PS2 was launch,i said years and then you showed 2 links one from 2003 and one from 2002 basically YEARS after the PS2 launch. like i say then you changed the argument to complain about me.
DRE happen for every single device that has a laser eye,it could be a CD player or a DVD, a console or a PC drive.
Is normal what is not normal is that they fail in a few months which didn't happen with the PS2 as you never prove it,you proved after years DRE happen which is normal.
Just google error reading disc on xbox.
I have experience DRE in basically every single device that i have own with a laser lent,from PS 1 to 4,from OG xbox to xbox 360 since my xbox one hasn't yet is basically new and barely use.
From CD players,DVD player,Oh and on PC damn i can't remember how many DVDand CD burners i replace over all this years.
@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
If it worked for me then I'm sure it was fine for others as well. I at least represent the 360 user base while you don't since you never owned one
Oh yeah and what did I lie about clown?
I didn't own a 360 in 05? That's news to me. Guess I didn't stay out all night in the Target parking lot securing the 3rd spot in line to get one. Figment of my imagination I guess
No you didn't. You never owned a 360 and we all know it. I seem to recall you begging someone in the 360 forums for a pic of one with your name on it.
So again, what did I lie about? My warranty repairs? The fact my final repair had zero issues for the remainder of the gen? Go ahead tell me what I lied about clown
Wrong clown, all launch 360s were covered under the warranty extension. You'd know that if you actually had 1 but you didn't.
So I'm guessing when i warrantied my OG launch 360 6 months after purchasing it, it was a figment of my imagination? Wow perhaps my memory is as bad as your reading comprehension skills? Nah, my memory is perfectly fine but your comprehension skills....not so much
Ahhh so not paying a dime AND receiving my 360 back in 7 days only 6 months after it launched was another figment of my imagination? Could be your reading comprehension skills at it again. So sad that you frequent a forum and can't understand half of what you read. Sucks to be you
Microsoft Extends Xbox 360 Warranty to One Year
December 22, 2006 |
REDMOND, Wash. — Dec. 22, 2006 — In a move to benefit customers, Microsoft Corp. announced today that it will change the Xbox 360™ warranty from 90 days to one year from the date of purchase in the United States and Canada. Microsoft extended the warranty in these territories to be consistent with the standard one-year Xbox 360 warranty that is available throughout most of the world. The news is reason to celebrate this holiday season; it applies to both would-be purchasers and those who already have Xbox 360 and are still within their first year of ownership.
Effective today, the one-year warranty is now the standard for the Xbox 360 console. Customers who experience hardware issues with their Xbox 360 within one year of purchase can have their consoles repaired at no cost. Moreover, the new warranty policy is retroactive, so consumers who may have already paid for an out-of-warranty Xbox 360 repair within one year of purchase will be eligible for reimbursement of their console repair charges.
https://news.microsoft.com/2006/12/22/microsoft-extends-xbox-360-warranty-to-one-year/
@kingtito said:
That's funny cause I warrantied my launch 360 6 months after launch. It was still under warranty and didn't cost me a dime plus I got it back in 7 days from the time I called it in. That's longer than 90 days and shorter than the time you claimed they extended the warranty. Guess I'm just that lucky? Even still why would anyone run out and buy 3 360's at 300-400 each than let MS repair or replace for a much less fee?
Why are you even talking about the 360? You've never owned one or play any of it's games. I don't even think you own a PS4 but I do believe you borrowed a friends.
7 days el tormented. I know because I experienced 2 RRODs and have 3 360s do YOU have any experience? Do you own any consoles? I seriously doubt that
Kingtito the lemming who got his 360 repair free while no other person could 3 month after his warranty expire..
No actually what sucks is that you have to lie to try to win an argument.
The xbox 360 warranty in 2005 wasn't 1 year was 3 months and no one was getting its unit fix for free period MS was charging $140 and they refunded the money to those who pay when they extended. :)
Glad you can finally come to grips with it. Repaired multiple times and not once did I have to pay for a repair. Sucks for you huh
Not against you el tormented. You make it very easy to win.
Didn't I state it was extended to 1 year in 2006?
No one? I did, so I guess my name is no one
You're forgetting that I'm no one so my 360 was repaired for free, they all were.
@knight-k said:
@i_p_daily said:
@ajstyles said:
https://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2019/04/17/top-15-best-selling-video-game-consoles-of-all-time
IGN. The biggest gaming site on the planet has just confirmed that the PS3 did infact outsell the xbox360 worldwide. This is FACT.
For you delusional lemmings out there that still spew the myth that 360 won, you are wrong. You need to accept the facts that PS3 won between those 2.
Xbox has always been in distant 2nd(Xbox/Xbone) or Dead Last 3rd Place(Xbox360).
If the largest gaming site on the planet who has better access to game companies and hardware numbers is not enough to convince you, then you are hopelessly delusional. Seek help.
Did you even read the article? I mean the largest gaming site on the planet is assuming LMFAO.
Man the OP rekt himself
Weak damage control lemming.
PS3 outsold the shit 360.
SONY, current gen 8 console leader, wins again
@tormentos said:
@Steppy_76 said:
@tormentos: so you proved the ps2 warranty was always a year long? I also did not say the dre was as bad as rrod...I said it was much closer than what is portrayed. You then claimed dre's were "normal".
No i had a link from sony them self that say so you posted info that contradicted sony link, the warranty apparently was different from US to EU.
But then again you never EVERRRR proved that DRE was even CLOSE RROD.
Certainly sony didn't spent 1,15 billions fixing that shit,in fact they agree to settle a lawsuit and move move like nothing happen.
Dude you claimed DRE problems started months after the PS2 was launch,i said years and then you showed 2 links one from 2003 and one from 2002 basically YEARS after the PS2 launch. like i say then you changed the argument to complain about me.
DRE happen for every single device that has a laser eye,it could be a CD player or a DVD, a console or a PC drive.
Is normal what is not normal is that they fail in a few months which didn't happen with the PS2 as you never prove it,you proved after years DRE happen which is normal.
Just google error reading disc on xbox.
I have experience DRE in basically every single device that i have own with a laser lent,from PS 1 to 4,from OG xbox to xbox 360 since my xbox one hasn't yet is basically new and barely use.
From CD players,DVD player,Oh and on PC damn i can't remember how many DVDand CD burners i replace over all this years.
I showed links for tips for repairing DRE that from early 2001. 18 months from launch in Japan(and the links weren't for Japanese systems either). I proved DRE was a very real and common issue for people, much more than you have proved the RROD boosted 360 sales. Yeah, every device will eventually have its laser die, but it is NOT common to happen in less than 5 years much less 1-3 years. I don't give a shit if you wanna hide in the fact that the internet wasn't anywhere near as pervasive 18 years ago. I like how you think that "settled a lawsuit" and didn't pay for people who had extremely short, shitty experiences with PS2 drive quality(and still keeping that 90 day warranty for another few years after lawsuit were filed) is somehow a positive for SONY and that MS actually stepping up and paying for repairs is a negative. One is pro consumer and the other is anticonsumer and you're head is stuck so far up sony's ass you are actually arguing against yourself to take the side of a corporation who actively screwed people over. You know why sony settled? When you settle and admit no wrongdoing you don't have to release the numbers to show just how bad the DRE errors that caused said lawsuit were, making it neigh impossible to use links to be able to conclusively prove how close to RROD the DRE was, but those links most definitely show that there WAS a problem, which you can't seem to admit.
Oh, and those of us in the thread were the ones that told YOU the US warranty was shorter and you STILL argued that WE were wrong and were not able to admit that you were incorrect even after having multiple people explaining to you how you were wrong. Not being able to admit that you are wrong displays a lack of character, and really weakens people's ability to believe that anything you say has any merit. That thread was literally one of the worst displays of stubbornness and ignorance that I have come across in my life in ANY facet, not just a stupid discussion board, because you weren't doing it to troll like many posters on here, you just simply couldn't fathom that you were utterly and completely wrong and rather than do what rational people do and say "I was mistaken", you dug your heels in even more and wouldn't give up. That's what you do in most of your threads, and pretty much every body here knows it.
@cainetao11 said:
Holy shyte, is this what SW has come to these days? That generation ended how long ago? There really isn’t anything worth coming here for anymore
Just shows how pathetic most fanboys have become. They act like they actually win something if there console of choice is on top. I just laugh every time I see wall of text arguing about this shit still. I mean come on PS3 and Xbox 360 sales really matter? Good lord!
I can totally see Sheep doing this type of shit for the Switch years from now when we're all gearing up for the PS6 and Next² Box trying to claim victory against the PS4.
@Steppy_76 said:
I showed links for tips for repairing DRE that from early 2001. 18 months from launch in Japan(and the links weren't for Japanese systems either). I proved DRE was a very real and common issue for people, much more than you have proved the RROD boosted 360 sales. Yeah, every device will eventually have its laser die, but it is NOT common to happen in less than 5 years much less 1-3 years. I don't give a shit if you wanna hide in the fact that the internet wasn't anywhere near as pervasive 18 years ago. I like how you think that "settled a lawsuit" and didn't pay for people who had extremely short, shitty experiences with PS2 drive quality(and still keeping that 90 day warranty for another few years after lawsuit were filed) is somehow a positive for SONY and that MS actually stepping up and paying for repairs is a negative. One is pro consumer and the other is anticonsumer and you're head is stuck so far up sony's ass you are actually arguing against yourself to take the side of a corporation who actively screwed people over. You know why sony settled? When you settle and admit no wrongdoing you don't have to release the numbers to show just how bad the DRE errors that caused said lawsuit were, making it neigh impossible to use links to be able to conclusively prove how close to RROD the DRE was, but those links most definitely show that there WAS a problem, which you can't seem to admit.
Oh, and those of us in the thread were the ones that told YOU the US warranty was shorter and you STILL argued that WE were wrong and were not able to admit that you were incorrect even after having multiple people explaining to you how you were wrong. Not being able to admit that you are wrong displays a lack of character, and really weakens people's ability to believe that anything you say has any merit. That thread was literally one of the worst displays of stubbornness and ignorance that I have come across in my life in ANY facet, not just a stupid discussion board, because you weren't doing it to troll like many posters on here, you just simply couldn't fathom that you were utterly and completely wrong and rather than do what rational people do and say "I was mistaken", you dug your heels in even more and wouldn't give up. That's what you do in most of your threads, and pretty much every body here knows it.
You showed 1 link which was 18 months into the PS2 life almost 2 years. So again it wasn't happening months after launch.
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Yeah is so uncommon for disc drives to fail before 5 years right?
Oh look is a Xbox one with DRE problems,is a Call of duty AW edition release November 4 2014,this ^^ video was posted in february 21 2016 just 15 damn months after release this machine fail to read disc that actually beat the PS2 finding you linked by 3 months.
But but but DRE doesn't happen until 5 years.
First you deny it was common then you change and claim is not common before 4 to 5 years,look at youtube and how many people post fix for DRE problems.
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The same with the PS4 as you can see but as you can also see DRE is quite fixable.
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As you can see it was fixable and in many cases you didn't even need a new drive as cleaning the lens would fix it,the lens got dirty many times as well for the PS2 and other platforms as well with laser drives.
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Dre happen on all system and no it doesn't take 5 years,and i just PROVE it again.
Not only that the biggest thing i just prove is that DRE is easily fixable and doesn't require a re buy,RROD wasn't easily fixable it require a technician to service it.
That is funny because sony settling the lawsuit was a decision based totally on saving money,the problem wasn't as big as you try to claim and the unit didn't break in months.
Yeah i have my head stock on sony's ass look who is fu**ing talking the poster who falsely wanted to claim DRE was as big as RROD and that refuse to admit that millions of people re bought xbox 360 because they were out of warranty or were simply not cover,the evidence slap you in the face and still you ask for more links proving the 54% fail rate,which by the way MS was confronted with and they didn't deny.
Because the LINK i posted from SONY it self not a 3rd freaking party from sony it self say US warranty it clearly did and i quoted it like 10 times,what if the warranty did change?
But hey like i already proved DRE was not only common is easy to fix and doesn't require a re buy,now prove the xbox 360 RROD was as easy to fix.
@Xabiss: no doubt. They act like the staff at Sony, Nintendo and MS are strapping on pads and playing hockey in front crowds. At least when my team wins a championship i can go to games, I have videos of the team and can go to the championship parade and celebrate.
Forums bragging is all you get from this shit lol
@cainetao11 said:
@Xabiss: no doubt. They act like the staff at Sony, Nintendo and MS are strapping on pads and playing hockey in front crowds. At least when my team wins a championship i can go to games, I have videos of the team and can go to the championship parade and celebrate.
Forums bragging is all you get from this shit lol
He is as much lemming as you are and both are part of this site parade. :)
@tormentos said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Xabiss: no doubt. They act like the staff at Sony, Nintendo and MS are strapping on pads and playing hockey in front crowds. At least when my team wins a championship i can go to games, I have videos of the team and can go to the championship parade and celebrate.
Forums bragging is all you get from this shit lol
He is as much lemming as you are and both are part of this site parade. :)
Not a lemming I know that hurts your feelings. :P Congrats on your forum bragging Tormentos how does it make you feel?
@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:
Not a lemming I know that hurts your feelings. :P Congrats on your forum bragging Tormentos how does it make you feel?
Actually you are the worse kind of lemming,at least I_p_daily doesn't deny who he cheer for and defend all the time.
Man it makes you so mad. This is so laughable. Look how you acting calling me something I am not. ROFLMAO! Poor guy it will be okay I promise.
@tormentos: Lmao ok I’ll march in the lemming parade to make u happy
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