IGN: Killzone 2 needs some fixes before release.

  • 117 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Truth_Hurts_U
Truth_Hurts_U

9703

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#101 Truth_Hurts_U
Member since 2006 • 9703 Posts

LOL, it has a hell of a lot more realistic physics than anything you see in Gears, Halo or COD, that's for sure. Yet you never see any of those games getting knocked. Hell, if anything, Gears is too over the top. Anyway, it seems your mind is already made up before the game has even released, so why do I even bother? So much for the benefit of the doubt, aye?:roll:

ironcreed

I know this isn't the final version of the game. But from what I am seeing these seem to be minor issues (to Sony)... I don't think Sony wants to spend more then what they already have. So, I'm guessing this is how the game is gonna ship. I just hope I'm wrong however. I want a PS3 game to finally be worth $60.

Avatar image for ironcreed
ironcreed

14195

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 46

User Lists: 0

#102 ironcreed
Member since 2005 • 14195 Posts
[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

LOL, it has a hell of a lot more realistic physics than anything you see in Gears, Halo or COD, that's for sure. Yet you never see any of those games getting knocked. Hell, if anything, Gears is too over the top. Anyway, it seems your mind is already made up before the game has even released, so why do I even bother? So much for the benefit of the doubt, aye?:roll:

Truth_Hurts_U

I know this isn't the final version of the game. But from what I am seeing these seem to be minor issues (to Sony)... I don't think Sony wants to spend more then what they already have. So, I'm guessing this is how the game is gonna ship. I just hope I'm wrong however. I want a PS3 game to finally be worth $60.

Personally, I have played quite a few PS3 titles that I felt were worth the average 60.00 price tag for PS3/360 games. Opinions do vary of course, and you are certainly entitled to yours. However, the 'PS3 has no games' argument simply does not hold water any longer.

Avatar image for mstc_Q
mstc_Q

1901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#103 mstc_Q
Member since 2007 • 1901 Posts
[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

LOL, it has a hell of a lot more realistic physics than anything you see in Gears, Halo or COD, that's for sure. Yet you never see any of those games getting knocked. Hell, if anything, Gears is too over the top. Anyway, it seems your mind is already made up before the game has even released, so why do I even bother? So much for the benefit of the doubt, aye?:roll:

Truth_Hurts_U

I know this isn't the final version of the game. But from what I am seeing these seem to be minor issues (to Sony)... I don't think Sony wants to spend more then what they already have. So, I'm guessing this is how the game is gonna ship. I just hope I'm wrong however. I want a PS3 game to finally be worth $60.

I've yet to find ANY game that's worth $60.
Avatar image for rolo107
rolo107

5469

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#104 rolo107
Member since 2007 • 5469 Posts

Lemmings are more concerned with this game than cows.Ragnarok1051

LOL ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Not seen the thousand threads that cows have made? Lemmings haven't made NEARLY AS MANY. 

Avatar image for Thinker_reborn
Thinker_reborn

676

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#105 Thinker_reborn
Member since 2008 • 676 Posts

If this game doesnt get atleast 8 then it'll be the single biggest flop in the history of gaming.

Ofcourse if it only get's AA then still it'll be a flop of epic epic proportions.

Avatar image for 0rin
0rin

7179

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#106 0rin
Member since 2006 • 7179 Posts
Honestly, It's a shame the first person aspect isn't living up to the hype.. However.. the multiplayer, as far as I'm concerned, has both achieved, and surpassed the hype. Does that make it all good? no. I am really worried, because I want this title to stand out. I just hope they tighten up the single player mode. particularly add a lot smarter AI, and most of the stuff IGN talks about. That being said, I'd buy the game just for its superior multiplayer alone. It really is that good. (I'm in the beta)
Avatar image for xion1234
xion1234

235

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#107 xion1234
Member since 2007 • 235 Posts

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/935/935405p1.html

Killzone 2 has:
So-So Weapons
No Engaging Context
Overly Chatty, Occasionally stupid & Frequently unambitious AI
Vanilla Enemies (Generic)
Pacing Issues and Scripting Letdowns



We're looking at a 7.5 at the most if they don't clear these things up before the game's release.

I'm willing to bet they wont. So here's an idea, quit hyping this game.

mstc_Q
well i say it will get a 8
Avatar image for Wasdie
Wasdie

53622

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#108 Wasdie  Moderator
Member since 2003 • 53622 Posts

Those aren't minor problems, those are rather major.

You can't just model and animate in a new character model in two months then implement it in your game, same with new weapons...

IGN is being way to picky. They want a huge varaity of everything when I think that a huge varaity would kill this game. How many sniper rifles and assault rifles do two sides really have? Very few. Standards on each side. How many different types of infantry do you face? Not many. How many can their be? This isn't Halo, there aren't several races of aliens running around here, there are just the humans and the helgahns...

I think IGN needs to cool it and let the developers develop their own damn game.

Avatar image for ironcreed
ironcreed

14195

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 46

User Lists: 0

#109 ironcreed
Member since 2005 • 14195 Posts

Those aren't minor problems, those are rather major.

You can't just model and animate in a new character model in two months then implement it in your game, same with new weapons...

IGN is being way to picky. They want a huge varaity of everything when I think that a huge varaity would kill this game. How many sniper rifles and assault rifles do two sides really have? Very few. Standards on each side. How many different types of infantry do you face? Not many. How many can their be? This isn't Halo, there aren't several races of aliens running around here, there are just the humans and the helgahns...

I think IGN needs to cool it and let the developers develop their own damn game.

Wasdie

Well said. You do not see these sorts of criticisms for other WAR games with 2 sides facing each other. Another gripe that just baffled me was that they thought that the Helghast were generic? Maybe it is just me, but I actually think the designs of the various Helghan classes as well as the Helghan back story in general is actually pretty bad ass for a shooter.

Avatar image for Mordred19
Mordred19

8259

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#110 Mordred19
Member since 2007 • 8259 Posts

Those aren't minor problems, those are rather major.

You can't just model and animate in a new character model in two months then implement it in your game, same with new weapons...

IGN is being way to picky. They want a huge varaity of everything when I think that a huge varaity would kill this game. How many sniper rifles and assault rifles do two sides really have? Very few. Standards on each side. How many different types of infantry do you face? Not many. How many can their be? This isn't Halo, there aren't several races of aliens running around here, there are just the humans and the helgahns...

I think IGN needs to cool it and let the developers develop their own damn game.

Wasdie

I think variety can be acheived simply by adding more of those mini-boss Helghast alonside the normal infantry you face. just make them more common, and make them fight in tandem with the normal infantry. when you add that factor, tactics need to be changed enourmously on the part of the player. add more snipers working alongside normal footsoldiers, and you have yourself some well-rounded firefights.

regarding weaponry, I'm concerned that there is no Vektan version of a sniper rifle. I believe that the only sniper rifle is the Helghast model. that's just not believable from a story perspective. the invading army would not plan to rely completely on procuring-on-site to provide sniper rifles for there own men.

I hope I'm mistaken about the sniper rifles, because that would really nag me.

Avatar image for deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71

2521

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#111 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
Member since 2006 • 2521 Posts
What I've seen so far in alot of these HD videos, IGN practically nails it through the coffin, spot on.
Avatar image for thepwninator
thepwninator

8134

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#112 thepwninator
Member since 2006 • 8134 Posts

and after that they said the weaopns are pretty much like the rest of shooters, duhhhh? what do u want? a plumber throwing ducks at you?

ZoomZoom2490

MDK2 had an atomic toaster for a weapon. It has to be, IMO, the most amazing weapon design ever.

Avatar image for aka_aj03
aka_aj03

5911

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#113 aka_aj03
Member since 2004 • 5911 Posts

Interesting read. Let me first say that since I have played the single player version of KZ2 and maybe not to the extent that Mr. Shea has but nonetheless I have played it and I would say that I agree with a few things mentioned as potential improvements but would have to question most things mentioned. I will keep it short and sweet.

KZ2 has been in development for quite some time and it shows. KILLZONE is a unique universe with it's own identity and from my limited play through there is not a FPS on the market today that feels this immersive, in fact there have been many comparisons made to COD4 and rightfully so. KZ2 does feel a bit like COD4 but truthfully KZ2 plays and feels better than any shooter on the market.

In the article Mr. Shea made mention that the weapons in KZ2 needed a bit more variety and kick, specifically the shotgun. I would say sure, Guerrilla make the shotgun louder and the flamethrower more effective but do they really need to? My opinion, the shotgun could be louder but the flamethrower is fine. Don't bother it. Watching the enemies die while in flames is awesome and it looks and feels real. The death animations are consistent with the death animations of the AI controlled ISA soldiers. They don't quickly die, they struggle to live as they sucomb to the flames. When you see it, it is impressive. A FPS could never have enough weapon options and KZ2 seems just fine. Please note that there are also gun placements and artillery pods you will use throughout so trust me when I say KZ2 has weapons a plenty.

Also, the characters in the KZ2 universe have unique personalities which is way it probably seemed irritating for Mr. Shea while playing when Cpl. Dante Garza kept yelling out wisecracks. That is what Cpl. Garza is known for. Be sure to read about the allies and protagonists of the KZ2 universe because if Guerrilla is pushing for an emotional connection for the player to experience then Guerrilla has already succeeded with Mr. Shea's irritation.

As far as the AI is concerned and I hate to say this but Guerrilla could revolutionize AI manipulation in gaming and someone would still find fault with it. This is one of those areas that biased and sometimes unfair reviewer will always take jabs at despite the fact that other games which have been rated in the high 9's struggled to do perfectly. I am not saying Mr. Shea is biased by no means however, the improved AI in KZ2 plays very well and I mean very well. I too hope that Guerrilla can bring newcomers up to speed on the universe of KILLZONE.

Despite the fact that many gamers who have experienced the original KILLZONE and KZ:Liberation are aware of the story, a clear understanding of why we are fighting and who we fighting would be great for newcomers. For those who have read this article please understand that Mr. Shea has not played 30% of KZ2 nor is he playing the final build. Lastly, for those gamers waiting impatiently for KILLZONE 2 don't worry this game is ridiculous!!!!!SGFShadowolf

Avatar image for Sgt_Hale
Sgt_Hale

2257

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#114 Sgt_Hale
Member since 2007 • 2257 Posts
I still think the game will get an 8.0-9.0 rating. The multiplayer is pretty freakin fun... and from the vids I've seen tonight, the single player still looks like it'll be fun to play through at least once. The only thing I do agree with from watching the vids is the flamethrower... it looks pretty weak compared to the flamethrowers in most games.

After playing the dozens of FPS titles we've had so far, the complaint against enemies just sounds pretty stupid. Especially after seeing the vids... b/w the Helghast soldiers and the flying enemy, the variety seems nice for just a couple levels. Either way, I definitely can't wait to get my hands on the game!

Avatar image for Sgt_Hale
Sgt_Hale

2257

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#115 Sgt_Hale
Member since 2007 • 2257 Posts
[QUOTE="0rin"]Honestly, It's a shame the first person aspect isn't living up to the hype.. However.. the multiplayer, as far as I'm concerned, has both achieved, and surpassed the hype. Does that make it all good? no. I am really worried, because I want this title to stand out. I just hope they tighten up the single player mode. particularly add a lot smarter AI, and most of the stuff IGN talks about. That being said, I'd buy the game just for its superior multiplayer alone. It really is that good. (I'm in the beta)

That's my thing, the game is worth a purchase for the multiplayer alone. The single player vids I've seen look like they will be at least fun & beautiful to play if not innovative or inspiring... so I'm sold either way.
Avatar image for masiisam
masiisam

5723

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#116 masiisam
Member since 2003 • 5723 Posts

I just hope the AI is not as dumb as I have seen in all the Videos...It has been a concern of mine for over a year....I am looking forward to this game and this game is one of the reasons I bought a PS3...

It makes me nervous to hear the same thing I have been concerned with so close to the release..

Avatar image for BoutDat26
BoutDat26

296

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#117 BoutDat26
Member since 2008 • 296 Posts
I'm still getting this game despite what any reviewer say cause they don't decide which game i want i know what game i wanna get and this is one of those games the online and graphics! yes the graphics have me sold already