IGN: Next xbox to be 20% more powerful than Wii U. October 2013.

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#101 ZombeGoast
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Wii U will be the next gen PS2 confirmed.charizard1605

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

ps2 was the luckiest console of all time. I dont think anyone will get that lucky for awhile.

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I meant in terms of being the weakest system, but still powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems and get all the third party multiplats, it's early launch leading it to be the development system of choice for third parties well into the next generation. A Nintendo system properly supported by third parties with all the backing of Nintendo's first party is a formidable idea indeed, and frankly, a wet dream come true.

Now all they need to do is shrink the controller and give it some grips

The controller is fine, everybody who's held one says it's surprisingly ergonomic. Remember how crazy the Gamecube controller looked, and how good it turned out to be? Really, all they need to do is give us real analog sticks (clickable sticks) instead of sliders.
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#103 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Wii U will be the next gen PS2 confirmed.charizard1605

ps2 was the luckiest console of all time. I dont think anyone will get that lucky for awhile.

I meant in terms of being the weakest system, but still powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems and get all the third party multiplats, it's early launch leading it to be the development system of choice for third parties well into the next generation. A Nintendo system properly supported by third parties with all the backing of Nintendo's first party is a formidable idea indeed, and frankly, a wet dream come true.

ah ok.

I didn't keep in touch with the console wars last gen, so i don't know how each one stacked up in power. But I do remember GTA being under sony for awhile and that was the big thing that pulled people...ESPECIALLY san andreas

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

ps2 was the luckiest console of all time. I dont think anyone will get that lucky for awhile.

Shinobishyguy

I meant in terms of being the weakest system, but still powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems and get all the third party multiplats, it's early launch leading it to be the development system of choice for third parties well into the next generation. A Nintendo system properly supported by third parties with all the backing of Nintendo's first party is a formidable idea indeed, and frankly, a wet dream come true.

Now all they need to do is shrink the controller and give it some grips

I'm confident that Nintendo would be smart enough to redesign the thing if they found significant comfort/usability issues with it during testing.

And if enough users complain, it will definitely get a redesign post-launch.

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#105 Tikeio
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6670? That is low end gpu that is not meant for gaming. The 4870 which is rumored to be on the Wii U is better than the 6670.

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Actually, the Wii U is rumored to have the same chip that's found in the 4890.

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#106 SuperFlakeman
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This is positive news for the home console industry. Keeping software development costs low makes for a healthier industry and games library in terms of risk taking.

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#107 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Wii U will be the next gen PS2 confirmed.ZombeGoast

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

Nope. The parallels between the PS2 and the Wii U are astounding (if the next Xbox is as powerful/weak as rumors say it is): Wii U is weakest system of the next generation, just like PS2 was the weakest system of its generation Wii U is just powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems of its generation, just like the PS2 Wii U launches earliest, which means it gets third party support and userbase early on, and for a large part of the generation, stays the lead platform of development, like the PS2 (and even the Xbox 360 this generation) Wii U is powerful enough that when developers DO switch to PS4/Xbox 3, it can still support their games with a bit of downgrading, just like the PS2 (and a bit like the 360). Nintendo's primed to have performed the greatest bait and switch in history if these rumors are true. And I'll be laughing my head off.
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IGN that has no idea about 720 or Wii hardware, is commenting on a random percent that they have no idea if it is correct, based on rumored specs for borh systems that may be 100% different than the actual hardware

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Of course you would deny the facts MS amd AMD = APU based console with $100 based gpu thats 3x faster then current xbox, but the main plus will be more memory you have no idea having a direct x 11 based gpu with more memory can do for options and graphics.... O wait you think the 360 matches Pc 's already.......
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#109 D4W1L4H
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The Wii U's only hope from a developers stand point, is that the 720, or at least the PS4 releases out of the box with a touch screen controller. That way, developers will be forced to actually utilize it, rather than just chuck a map/inventory on it.
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#110 icyseanfitz
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20% ffs thats nothing...unless the wii u is actually pretty powerful, although having 6 times the power of a 6 year old piece of tech doesnt sound all that great tbh

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#111 alexside1
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my 7 year old file server has more power than that. :lol: Heil68
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#112 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

ps2 was the luckiest console of all time. I dont think anyone will get that lucky for awhile.

eboyishere

I meant in terms of being the weakest system, but still powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems and get all the third party multiplats, it's early launch leading it to be the development system of choice for third parties well into the next generation. A Nintendo system properly supported by third parties with all the backing of Nintendo's first party is a formidable idea indeed, and frankly, a wet dream come true.

ah ok.

I didn't keep in touch with the console wars last gen, so i don't know how each one stacked up in power. But I do remember GTA being under sony for awhile and that was the big thing that pulled people...ESPECIALLY san andreas

The Playstation 2 was the weakest system of the generation, with a highly complicated architecture to boot. However, it launched a year early, and it led to all third parties flocking to it, leading to major exclusive support (or perceived exclusive support). The Gamecube and the Xbox were powerhouses, and they well outpaced the PS2. However, the PS2 was JUST powerful enough to keep pace and get all the games the Gamecube/Xbox got, which is why it never lost support. Like I said, it feels like the Wii U is primed to do the same thing.
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#113 Assassin_87
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The Wii U's only hope from a developers stand point, is that the 720, or at least the PS4 releases out of the box with a touch screen controller. That way, developers will be forced to actually utilize it, rather than just chuck a map/inventory on it.D4W1L4H

I would bet money that this is exactly what happens with the majority of games, unfortunately. I'd love to see some creative use of the touchscreen on the controller, but the reality is that devs are more concerned with making a quick buck much of the time as opposed to innovating in any meaningful or substantial way.

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People here just dont understand the 20% faster then the WiiU statement. The WiiU is suppose to have an R770 based gpu which is the 4770/4850 and the 4870 also suppose to have a quad core cpu. And going on the basis of 20% faster and the next xbox seems to have a 6670 type gpu the WiiU's gpu will most likely be 4770.
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#115 DerekLoffin
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[QUOTE="ZombeGoast"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Wii U will be the next gen PS2 confirmed.charizard1605

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

Nope. The parallels between the PS2 and the Wii U are astounding (if the next Xbox is as powerful/weak as rumors say it is): Wii U is weakest system of the next generation, just like PS2 was the weakest system of its generation Wii U is just powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems of its generation, just like the PS2 Wii U launches earliest, which means it gets third party support and userbase early on, and for a large part of the generation, stays the lead platform of development, like the PS2 (and even the Xbox 360 this generation) Wii U is powerful enough that when developers DO switch to PS4/Xbox 3, it can still support their games with a bit of downgrading, just like the PS2 (and a bit like the 360). Nintendo's primed to have performed the greatest bait and switch in history if these rumors are true. And I'll be laughing my head off.

Umm, PS2 was neither the weakest of the gen, nor the 1st to release, both of those titles go to Dreamcast.
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#116 ZombeGoast
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[QUOTE="ZombeGoast"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Wii U will be the next gen PS2 confirmed.charizard1605

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

Nope. The parallels between the PS2 and the Wii U are astounding (if the next Xbox is as powerful/weak as rumors say it is): Wii U is weakest system of the next generation, just like PS2 was the weakest system of its generation Wii U is just powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems of its generation, just like the PS2 Wii U launches earliest, which means it gets third party support and userbase early on, and for a large part of the generation, stays the lead platform of development, like the PS2 (and even the Xbox 360 this generation) Wii U is powerful enough that when developers DO switch to PS4/Xbox 3, it can still support their games with a bit of downgrading, just like the PS2 (and a bit like the 360). Nintendo's primed to have performed the greatest bait and switch in history if these rumors are true. And I'll be laughing my head off.

But the Gpu on the rumor is said to be a 6670 on the next gen xbox. that is a weaker gpu than the gpu in the Wii U. So if this is true, then the next xbox will be the weakest out of the other consoles

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#117 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ZombeGoast"]

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

DerekLoffin

Nope. The parallels between the PS2 and the Wii U are astounding (if the next Xbox is as powerful/weak as rumors say it is): Wii U is weakest system of the next generation, just like PS2 was the weakest system of its generation Wii U is just powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems of its generation, just like the PS2 Wii U launches earliest, which means it gets third party support and userbase early on, and for a large part of the generation, stays the lead platform of development, like the PS2 (and even the Xbox 360 this generation) Wii U is powerful enough that when developers DO switch to PS4/Xbox 3, it can still support their games with a bit of downgrading, just like the PS2 (and a bit like the 360). Nintendo's primed to have performed the greatest bait and switch in history if these rumors are true. And I'll be laughing my head off.

Umm, PS2 was neither the weakest of the gen, nor the 1st to release, both of those titles go to Dreamcast.

Oh, I know that. I was comparing the three 'active' systems of last generation. The Dreamcast basically died out before the last generation even had a chance to begin properly, so I usually disregard it in my discussions. But you are right about that, of course.

In any case, my comparison still stands inasmuch as it is being used to compare the systems by the Big Three.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ZombeGoast"]

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

DerekLoffin

Nope. The parallels between the PS2 and the Wii U are astounding (if the next Xbox is as powerful/weak as rumors say it is): Wii U is weakest system of the next generation, just like PS2 was the weakest system of its generation Wii U is just powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems of its generation, just like the PS2 Wii U launches earliest, which means it gets third party support and userbase early on, and for a large part of the generation, stays the lead platform of development, like the PS2 (and even the Xbox 360 this generation) Wii U is powerful enough that when developers DO switch to PS4/Xbox 3, it can still support their games with a bit of downgrading, just like the PS2 (and a bit like the 360). Nintendo's primed to have performed the greatest bait and switch in history if these rumors are true. And I'll be laughing my head off.

Umm, PS2 was neither the weakest of the gen, nor the 1st to release, both of those titles go to Dreamcast.

Your point is?

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I'm just hoping they don't ruin the thing with Kinect.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

IGN that has no idea about 720 or Wii hardware, is commenting on a random percent that they have no idea if it is correct, based on rumored specs for borh systems that may be 100% different than the actual hardware

04dcarraher

Of course you would deny the facts MS amd AMD = APU based console with $100 based gpu thats 3x faster then current xbox, but the main plus will be more memory you have no idea having a direct x 11 based gpu with more memory can do for options and graphics.... O wait you think the 360 matches Pc 's already.......

I am sure MS will make a console that will not any 2014 PC games at all

Sure thing

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#121 marq4porsche
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Sounds to me like one could get a Wii U and still get all of the games. I like!

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#122 ZombeGoast
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ZombeGoast"]

You mean the next xbox if this rumor is true.

DerekLoffin

Nope. The parallels between the PS2 and the Wii U are astounding (if the next Xbox is as powerful/weak as rumors say it is): Wii U is weakest system of the next generation, just like PS2 was the weakest system of its generation Wii U is just powerful enough to keep pace with the other systems of its generation, just like the PS2 Wii U launches earliest, which means it gets third party support and userbase early on, and for a large part of the generation, stays the lead platform of development, like the PS2 (and even the Xbox 360 this generation) Wii U is powerful enough that when developers DO switch to PS4/Xbox 3, it can still support their games with a bit of downgrading, just like the PS2 (and a bit like the 360). Nintendo's primed to have performed the greatest bait and switch in history if these rumors are true. And I'll be laughing my head off.

Umm, PS2 was neither the weakest of the gen, nor the 1st to release, both of those titles go to Dreamcast.

Actually The Dreamcast had a better Gpu allowing it to have features the ps2 coudn't do. And the Emotion engine on the ps2 was complex.

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Maybe Microsoft will put their hardcore focus on PC gaming and use the Xbox as a multi-media/gaming device for the casuals? I sure hope so.
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So its weaker then a gpu I bought over 3 years ago lol and to think people where saying the new consoles would be 100 times stronger hardware then top end gpu's today.

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#125 ronvalencia
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6670? That is low end gpu that is not meant for gaming. The 4870 which is rumored to be on the Wii U is better than the 6670.

ZombeGoast
6670 GDDR5 can play games better than Xbox 360.
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In 5 years(or maybe 2) people will be making threads here asking if PC had as much power as their consoles when they were new and saying that when consoles were new they had better graphics than PC and just for the record my LOW end gaming PC. Anyone who is a console gamer and doesn't know too much about PC but has one I urge you to just buy a Radeon HD 7770 when it is released and it will be far cheaper and superior to any of the next gen consoles.

Seriously though DX11 is really nice and that will be the focus there. The 1080p and 60 fps Wii U has said will be standard will be a nice jump for console fans.

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So its weaker then a gpu I bought over 3 years ago lol and to think people where saying the new consoles would be 100 times stronger hardware then top end gpu's today.

DJ_Headshot

If it is that weak, i will indeed move to PC/PS4 gaming

That would be laughable, worst than WiiU too probably

And worst than Wii for its time of release as well

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So its weaker then a gpu I bought over 3 years ago lol and to think people where saying the new consoles would be 100 times stronger hardware then top end gpu's today.

DJ_Headshot

Those people know nothing obviously. Anyone that has any amount of intelligence can comprehend that it is impossible for consoles to EVER release being equally/more powerful than current PCs.

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#129 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

So its weaker then a gpu I bought over 3 years ago lol and to think people where saying the new consoles would be 100 times stronger hardware then top end gpu's today.

Assassin_87

Those people know nothing obviously. Anyone that has any amount of intelligence can comprehend that it is impossible for consoles to EVER release being equally/more powerful than current PCs.

360 was far more powerfull than 2005 best PC hardware

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I am not sure people know what 20% more powerful means. When it comes to pure graphical output, 20% is a pretty big difference. And 6x more than 360? Think about that for a second.

If this thing comes in under $300 that is a pretty big jump. 20% is probably from Dreamcast to 360 quality......That is a significant upgrade.

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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

So its weaker then a gpu I bought over 3 years ago lol and to think people where saying the new consoles would be 100 times stronger hardware then top end gpu's today.

loosingENDS

Those people know nothing obviously. Anyone that has any amount of intelligence can comprehend that it is impossible for consoles to EVER release being equally/more powerful than current PCs.

360 was far more powerfull than 2005 best PC hardware

It was not far more powerful. It was slightly more powerful and it didn't use that power at all. then PC soon caught back up and I don't think a console could ever pass it out again. The tech is just too strong in PCs nowadays and its more affordable than ever

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#132 loosingENDS
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I am not sure people know what 20% more powerful means. When it comes to pure graphical output, 20% is a pretty big difference. And 6x more than 360? Think about that for a second.

If this thing comes in under $300 that is a pretty big jump. 20% is probably from Dreamcast to 360 quality......That is a significant upgrade.

WarTornRuston

If PC today is 70x more powerfull than 360, then 6x is not that good

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I read a rumor that 720 will indeed use AMD 7000 series cores, but an array of 64 of them

That means 20% * 64 = 1280% more powerfull than WiiU actually

AMD 7000 series cores includes Cypress, Cayman and Southern Island types.
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So they GPU they're using will be a 2 year old entry level GPU? :lol:

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#135 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

So its weaker then a gpu I bought over 3 years ago lol and to think people where saying the new consoles would be 100 times stronger hardware then top end gpu's today.

Those people know nothing obviously. Anyone that has any amount of intelligence can comprehend that it is impossible for consoles to EVER release being equally/more powerful than current PCs.

360 was far more powerfull than 2005 best PC hardware

The PC assimulated Xenos's unified shader technology.
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Only 20% Look's like PS4 is going to be most powerful next GEN.

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the Radeon HD 6670

Radeon HD 6670

HD 6670

:lol::lol:

I'm dying here...

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#138 yoshi_64
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Well... I guess we can speculate and dream all we want. The PS4 could be 10%-30% or a billion times more, but... I must admit, I think next generation, we're going to really see a small "gap" that only pixel hunters will bother to worry about. I think it will happen because most games will now be multiplat. With WiiU, Xbox 720, and PS4 more likely going to be within a range that's no different from one another, unless talented devs spend more time fixing on those little differences or exclusives show off that power, we'll see really no "difference" between these games. That extra power may be for smoother framerate, shorter load times, possibly better aliasing, or something of that sort. We'll hardly see any game differ on visual effects, polygon counts, and the rest.
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#139 santoron
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If true, it doesn't shock me at all. I've always believed next gen was gonna be a conservative jump.

As far as SW goes, if this turns out to be about right, then we can put the "Is PC next gen?" arguments to bed and start the "how many gens ahead?" debate!

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#140 GotNugz
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Why do people jump all over the place on some rumors? I will wait until I hear official comments from ms or one of their manufacture partners. Just a couple of days ago a source said the dev kit silicon is in production and be based around the hd7000 series, and if you know anything about development is that final hardware is substantially more powerful than dev kits. I dont know what to believe anymore, I still have a hunch ms will go for the high end and release something similar if not more powerful than the hd7970.
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#141 SuperFlakeman
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Only 20% Look's like PS4 is going to be most powerful next GEN.

ReviewerDrake

And that will be their downfall (if the leap is significant)

PSP

PS3

PSV

What do these three consoles all have in common? a) power b) poor sales

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#142 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Well... I guess we can speculate and dream all we want. The PS4 could be 10%-30% or a billion times more, but... I must admit, I think next generation, we're going to really see a small "gap" that only pixel hunters will bother to worry about. I think it will happen because most games will now be multiplat. With WiiU, Xbox 720, and PS4 more likely going to be within a range that's no different from one another, unless talented devs spend more time fixing on those little differences or exclusives show off that power, we'll see really no "difference" between these games. That extra power may be for smoother framerate, shorter load times, possibly better aliasing, or something of that sort. We'll hardly see any game differ on visual effects, polygon counts, and the rest.yoshi_64

Yeah all the console guys should calm down because they won't get that kind of huge leap in graphics again this time around. I just hope the consoles finally do 1080p natively and no more upscaling or anything like that. 1080p was overrated to me before I got my PC, I was so very wrong. Its miles better

Funny how all the console guys said stuff like AA and res didn't matter and counting frames is stupid when the new consoles will bring all these things and they will all change their minds then :P

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#143 mitu123
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So much for beating PCs, where's loosingENDs now?

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#144 GotNugz
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I am not sure people know what 20% more powerful means. When it comes to pure graphical output, 20% is a pretty big difference. And 6x more than 360? Think about that for a second.

If this thing comes in under $300 that is a pretty big jump. 20% is probably from Dreamcast to 360 quality......That is a significant upgrade.

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Naw man 360 is much more than a 20% increase over dreamcast. Xbox 360 was 15X more powerful than the Xbox, and the Xbox was about 3X faster than the dreamcast. Xbox 720 final hardware will be 10X with final hardware in 2013 compared to 360.
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#145 glez13
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[QUOTE="WarTornRuston"]

I am not sure people know what 20% more powerful means. When it comes to pure graphical output, 20% is a pretty big difference. And 6x more than 360? Think about that for a second.

If this thing comes in under $300 that is a pretty big jump. 20% is probably from Dreamcast to 360 quality......That is a significant upgrade.

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If PC today is 70x more powerfull than 360, then 6x is not that good

LOL

70x more powerful? More like 9x or something around it.

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#146 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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So much for beating PCs, where's loosingENDs now?

mitu123

Don't worry he'll have his excuses :P

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#147 mitu123
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the Radeon HD 6670

Radeon HD 6670

HD 6670

:lol::lol:

I'm dying here...

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It can't even surpass a 460, and I have 2 460s, lol.

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#148 stvee101
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I'm just hoping they don't ruin the thing with Kinect.

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Lol Kinnect will be the centrepice of the 720! :lol:

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#149 loosingENDS
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So much for beating PCs, where's loosingENDs now?

mitu123

I am where all my favourite games are

If that is PC next gen, i will move to PC

The fact that i find 360 perfect this gen, does not mean i will find 720 the same if it is weak and looses all the perks or 360 like amazing WRPGs-JRPGs, great looking multipltforms, best multiplat versions on consoles etc

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#150 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

So much for beating PCs, where's loosingENDs now?

loosingENDS

I am where all my favourite games are

If that is PC next gen, i will move to PC

The fact that i find 360 perfect this gen, does not mean i will find 720 the same if it is weak and looses all the perks or 360 like amazing JRPGs etc

There you are.:o

Don't worry, the 720 will still be amazing.