IGN's Top 100 RPGs currently PC is leading the count I think (IGN PC bias).

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#1  Edited By Lightning_fan
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http://www.ign.com/lists/top-100-rpgs//81

FFXIII will be number 1. I am curious as to whether XIII-2 or Lightning Returns will be Number 2. I personally think Lightning Returns should be number 1.

Which system do you think will have more?

Also Chrono Cross is too low.

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#2 aigis
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Im unsure if FFXIII will be on it :P

Im curious to see where Persona ranks. Im sure not as high as it deserves, though Im glad to see undertale on the lower end

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Yeah, FFXIII is as good as it gets. Running through endless hallways seeing trippy looking shit while listening to a nonsense story in a game that feels aimless? Sounds like LSD in a hotel, I can definitely relate.

And yeah, IGN clearly has a long running bias for PC, they're not a console focused website at all.

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#4  Edited By lundy86_4
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FFXIII is like... 5,001 on the top RPG's list.

This thread would have been better once the list was completed, but I couldn't even imagine ranking 100 of the best RPG's.

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#5 Lightning_fan
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@aigis said:

Im unsure if FFXIII will be on it :P

Im curious to see where Persona ranks. Im sure not as high as it deserves, though Im glad to see undertale on the lower end

Psssh, if they do not include any one of the trilogy on their list than I might as well buy diapers, soil them, and then mail the soiled diapers to IGN with the note, PC BIAS scribbled in blue crayon.

I get that FFXIII never made it to PC but that does not excuse IGN's obvious bias if they fail to include it. I would suspect the newest Persona ranks the highest because it is freshest in memory.

IGN gives Zelda games 10s a lot! Do they consider those RPGs?

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#6  Edited By lundy86_4
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@Lightning_fan said:

Psssh, if they do not include any one of the trilogy on their list than I might as well buy diapers, soil them, and then mail the soiled diapers to IGN with the note, PC BIAS scribbled in blue crayon.

I get that FFXIII never made it to PC but that does not excuse IGN's obvious bias if they fail to include it. I would suspect the newest Persona ranks the highest because it is freshest in memory.

IGN gives Zelda games 10s a lot! Do they consider those RPGs?

FFXIII is on PC. It's a shit port as well.

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@Lightning_fan said:

I get that FFXIII never made it to PC but that does not excuse IGN's obvious bias if they fail to include it.

about that...

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IGN and PC bias.... lol

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Yeah, FFXIII is as good as it gets. Running through endless hallways seeing trippy looking shit while listening to a nonsense story in a game that feels aimless? Sounds like LSD in a hotel, I can definitely relate.

And yeah, IGN clearly has a long running bias for PC, they're not a console focused website at all.

I can't wait for the FFXIII trilogy to be on the list. I am going to be triumphantly waiting to bump this topic. Oh the smug look on my face is going to be permeating rather than ephemeral. I can not believe anyone could fathom a list without FFXIII on it.

Do you hate movies? You know movies are linear. Resident Evil 4 is linear.

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Fable 2 better than Wizardry 8.

Oh my sides...

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#11  Edited By Lightning_fan
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Lightning_fan said:

Psssh, if they do not include any one of the trilogy on their list than I might as well buy diapers, soil them, and then mail the soiled diapers to IGN with the note, PC BIAS scribbled in blue crayon.

I get that FFXIII never made it to PC but that does not excuse IGN's obvious bias if they fail to include it. I would suspect the newest Persona ranks the highest because it is freshest in memory.

IGN gives Zelda games 10s a lot! Do they consider those RPGs?

FFXIII is on PC. It's a shit port as well.

Do... do they have nude mods?

Edit: Found some for Vanille

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#12  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@Lightning_fan said:

Do you hate movies? You know movies are linear. Resident Evil 4 is linear.

Yep, movies are the worst. Much better story telling mediums out there like video games.

And yeah, Resident Evil 4 ruined video games.

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#13 Lightning_fan
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@Lightning_fan said:

Do you hate movies? You know movies are linear. Resident Evil 4 is linear.

Yep, movies are the worst. Much better story telling mediums out there like video games.

And yeah, Resident Evil 4 ruined video games.

Okay what video games do you like?Books are fairly linear as well btw. I mean video games might be a funner way to experience a story but I do not see how they are superior to movies.

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The definitive list for all time.

Or at least until there site traffic slows down again.

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#15 ConanTheStoner
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@Lightning_fan said:

Okay what video games do you like?Books are fairly linear as well btw. I mean video games might be a funner way to experience a story but I do not see how they are superior to movies.

Pong and hyperdimension neptunia re birth1... that's really about it.

Books aren't linear, I can read any page I want in any order.

Game stories are superior to movies because you're in control of everything that happens.

For example, take Ninja Gaiden Black vs. Ninja Assassin.

In Ninja Assassin, the movie is always going to play out the same way no matter what. Trust me, I even used the force and nothing changed.

But in Ninja Gaiden Black? Sure, most plebs would just play the game and follow the story. But me? I sit there at the beginning of the first level and stare off the cliff into the sunset, thinking about the ninja hotdogs I'll make for dinner. It's art. I'm not confined to the trappings of a movie, that shit is for commoners.

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#16 Lightning_fan
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@Lightning_fan said:

Okay what video games do you like?Books are fairly linear as well btw. I mean video games might be a funner way to experience a story but I do not see how they are superior to movies.

Pong and hyperdimension neptunia re birth1... that's really about it.

Books aren't linear, I can read any page I want in any order.

Game stories are superior to movies because you're in control of everything that happens.

For example, take Ninja Gaiden Black vs. Ninja Assassin.

In Ninja Assassin, the movie is always going to play out the same way no matter what. Trust me, I even used the force and nothing changed.

But in Ninja Gaiden Black? Sure, most plebs would just play the game and follow the story. But me? I sit there at the beginning of the first level and stare off the cliff into the sunset, thinking about the ninja hotdogs I'll make for dinner. It's art. I'm not confined to the trappings of a movie, that shit is for commoners.

You can pause a movie during certain scenes and give your own fanfiction as well or plan out the next viewing sequence. There is a chapter select, rewind, pause, etc.
Pong does not really have a story.

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PC is the best gamign system.

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#18 PsychoLemons
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With a username like that, why I'm not surprised?

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#19  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@Lightning_fan said:

You can pause a movie during certain scenes and give your own fanfiction as well or plan out the next viewing sequence. There is a chapter select, rewind, pause, etc.

Pong does not really have a story.

But is the lack of story not a story unto itself? Sorry if this is too high level for you, I am a game story designer after all.

Personally, I always thought of Pong as the origin story of the universe. A detailed account of the events leading up to the Big Bang so to speak.

As for what you say about those various movie temporal displacement options, I do agree to an extent, though it's a bit too inorganic for my liking. :/

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@Lightning_fan said:

You can pause a movie during certain scenes and give your own fanfiction as well or plan out the next viewing sequence. There is a chapter select, rewind, pause, etc.

Pong does not really have a story.

But is the lack of story not a story unto itself? Sorry if this is too high level for you, I am a game story designer after all.

Personally, I always thought of Pong as the origin story of the universe. A detailed account of the events leading up to the Big Bang so to speak.

As for what you say about those various movie time displacement options, I do agree to an extent, though it's a bit too inorganic for my liking. :/

I know it's super obvious from your username, but I'm betting if I re-read all of your posts later tonight after the kids are in bed, after a quick visit to the garage, I'll TOTALLY get what you're saying :D

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#21  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@appariti0n said:

I know it's super obvious from your username, but I'm betting if I re-read all of your posts later tonight after the kids are in bed, after a quick visit to the garage, I'll TOTALLY get what you're saying :D

Excellent observation friend. :)

Yes, I am indeed a stone mason as my user name implies, and yes we do keep stones in the garage and away from the children.

Always good to meet a fellow stone mason around these parts. I hope you have a grand time with your stones this evening. You probably already know this, but if you set the stones ablaze, you'll unlock their true powers.

:O

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@appariti0n said:

I know it's super obvious from your username, but I'm betting if I re-read all of your posts later tonight after the kids are in bed, after a quick visit to the garage, I'll TOTALLY get what you're saying :D

Excellent observation friend. :)

Yes, I am indeed a stone mason as my user name implies, and yes we do keep stones in the garage and away from the children.

Always good to meet a fellow stone mason around these parts. I hope you have a grand time with your stones this evening. You probably already know this, but if you set the stones ablaze, you'll unlock their true powers.

:O

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Wow I'm surprised to see Chrono Cross so far down the list..... Hmmm.....

There were a lot of great RPGs on PS1.

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#24 ConanTheStoner
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Stone Masonry. Turning 7/10 video games into 10/10 since the 1980s.

Exactly lol.

It was good old stone masonry that had me believing the Water Temple in OoT was actually fun.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Sounds like LSD in a hotel

Maybe I need to give FF13 another try

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@charizard1605 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

Sounds like LSD in a hotel

Maybe I need to give FF13 another try

Or just go for the real deal?

Actually don't. That shit can be terrifying.

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Jecht is Sin!

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@charizard1605 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

Sounds like LSD in a hotel

Maybe I need to give FF13 another try

Or just go for the real deal?

Actually don't. That shit can be terrifying.

Been there, done that, bro. The first time it... went terribly, terribly wrong, lol

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#29 ConanTheStoner
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Been there, done that, bro. The first time it... went terribly, terribly wrong, lol

I had a bad trip once. It's funny, because some of the shit that had me terrified at the time seemed so comical after the fact.

For example, I saw a buddy of mine pull a ridiculously oversized assault rifle out of a mini fridge. This "gun" was like 5 feet long, had missile launcher attachments, and overall just had the proportions of something you'd only see in Looney Toons. It was so stupid lol. But the deep down paranoia of my friends being out to get me was some scary shit.

Things only got darker from there though and I didn't say a word to anybody for the rest of the trip.

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@ConanTheStoner: Never been there, but I did run off into the forest and chainsawed for about 3 hours at night during a camping trip, due to eating too much of Mario and Luigi's favorite vegetable.

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@appariti0n said:

@ConanTheStoner: Never been there, but I did run off into the forest and chainsawed for about 3 hours at night during a camping trip, due to eating too much of Mario and Luigi's favorite vegetable.

Bro... wow lol.

1. Running off into a forest while tripping is already bad news.

2. Doing so at night increases said bad news by a factor of 100.

3. ....with a chainsaw?

Glad you're still with us. You're like the Rambo of shroom eaters lmao.

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@appariti0n said:

@ConanTheStoner: Never been there, but I did run off into the forest and chainsawed for about 3 hours at night during a camping trip, due to eating too much of Mario and Luigi's favorite vegetable.

Bro... wow lol.

1. Running off into a forest while tripping is already bad news.

2. Doing so at night increases said bad news by a factor of 100.

3. ....with a chainsaw?

Glad you're still with us. You're like the Rambo of shroom eaters lmao.

Yeah, not my smartest moment. Actually that's the last time I ever have, and ever will do them lol.

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#33 enzyme36
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PSO at 63 surprised me...

I hope Phantasy Star 2 or 4 make this list and place even higher

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Baldur's gate 2 better be number one, or I'll stop going to IGN..... er... wait. I never go there anyhow. Nevermind.

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#35 ConanTheStoner
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@appariti0n said:

Yeah, not my smartest moment. Actually that's the last time I ever have, and ever will do them lol.

Honestly, I don't have much room to talk lol. I've done some really questionable things while on the trip.

Standing in the back of a truck while our drunk chauffeur is driving 80 mph over the Tennessee River bridge? Check.

Contemplating jumping from the docks into a river at night because the water looks "nice and bouncy like a giant slab of rubber"? Check.

I'm with you though, I'll never mess with that shit again. Was fun at the time, but it's just too much. Some good smoke is all I want these days.

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TC delivers. I like this trolling. 7/10. You can do better! I believe in you!

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@charizard1605 said:

Been there, done that, bro. The first time it... went terribly, terribly wrong, lol

I had a bad trip once. It's funny, because some of the shit that had me terrified at the time seemed so comical after the fact.

For example, I saw a buddy of mine pull a ridiculously oversized assault rifle out of a mini fridge. This "gun" was like 5 feet long, had missile launcher attachments, and overall just had the proportions of something you'd only see in Looney Toons. It was so stupid lol. But the deep down paranoia of my friends being out to get me was some scary shit.

Things only got darker from there though and I didn't say a word to anybody for the rest of the trip.

Mine was my very first one, and in my infinite wisdom, I decided to do it alone. I remember I was having a pretty good time, and then I close my eyes, and I imagine I hear scurrying, and I'm like, oh look, a mouse! And then I see a mouse, and it's cute, but then it turns into a giant fucking monster, and it was all downhill from there.

Needless to say it was amazing.

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I can almost bet cash on trash like FF6 or FF7 making it into the top 5.

Then again, lists like these are always a joke to me, as are the people who point to them to validate their own love for games that make these kinds of lists.

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I don't think I've even played 100 RPGs in my entire lifetime...

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Well FFXIII is the Citizen Kane of video games so it should be #1.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Excellent observation friend. :)

Yes, I am indeed a stone mason as my user name implies, and yes we do keep stones in the garage and away from the children.

Always good to meet a fellow stone mason around these parts. I hope you have a grand time with your stones this evening. You probably already know this, but if you set the stones ablaze, you'll unlock their true powers.

:O

ROFL.

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#42  Edited By remiks00
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IGN is clearly being paid by PC, so much bias in that list. Where is White Knight Chronicles , and Infinite Undiscovery?

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#43  Edited By Legend002
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@dxmcat said:

Jecht is Sin!

That post was sin.

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@remiks00: Sarcasm?

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#45  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@jasonofa36 said:

IGN and PC bias.... lol

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Glad to see legend of dragoon in there.

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#47  Edited By KOD
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Number 1 will be either FF7, One of the Baldur's gate's or my own personal pick, Ultima 7.

@remiks00 said:

IGN is clearly being paid by PC, so much bias in that list. Where is White Knight Chronicles , and Infinite Undiscovery?

Who's a jigga what?

I want to take this as a joke, but i dont think it is.....

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FFXIII....lol!

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I don't want to click on the link, it probably won't fit my personal taste at all.

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@ArchoNils2: Sure didn't fit mine. The fact that I see multiple final fantasy games and the top 20 isn't unlocked it's a mismatch with my taste. My top 10 will probably only be final fantasy games